New “Duty” type pistol build: Glock 19 gen 5 MOS & Holosun EPS 6MOA
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- čas přidán 2. 10. 2022
- Building a new general purpose/“duty” type handgun. Using a new Glock 19 gen 5 MOS, EPS 6MOA red dot, CHPWS plate, and Surefire x300. Will post follow up video after 2k rounds.
#glock #holosun #surefire #pistol #concealcarry
This had relevant information and was to the point, well done.
I try to make my videos the way I would have learned the info when I was first starting out. Thanks for watching!
Good job Sir. Thank you!
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Helpful vid. Thx!
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Very nice set up..... not too much, but just enough to get the job done efficiently. Great video. Keep going. Just sub’d.
Exactly, just trying to keep it stock and simple for us average joes. Thanks for watching!
Most important part of this build is a set of fix it sticks with torque driver .. a dab of lock tight literally and 9-12 in lbs and your golden
Nice video!
Thanks for watching!
Awesome job man, new subscriber
Thanks for watching homie.
You're making it harder to choose what optic I want on my 19. There's this, the holosun scs, and the eotech eflx all on my list to choose from.
The SCS seems pretty cool, that solar tech seems like it could last forever. Lots of good options right now but I think closed emitter is definitely the way to go. Lemme know what you decide on homie.
I put the SCS on my G19. That would be my first choice.
@r12clark I'm not a fan of the reticle or open emitter. Otherwise it's great technology and by far a game changer how it just bolts right on.
Man nice set up! Yeah the closed emitter is nice. I was also wondering what that holster is for your 43x shown in the video? Awesome vid my friend.
Incog Shadow Eclipse from GCode holsters. Thanks for watching!
Used the Glock plate for my holosun 507c v2 no issues been carrying it for about 2 years.
Thanks for watching!
Great video, thanks for your good work.
I'm going to run the same setup as you, just curious about what height Iron Sights should use for EPS. Those regular height suppressor sights designed for RMR seem a bit too high for EPS..
I also think suppressor height sights are a bit too tall. On my G43x MOS I used the RMR height sights from Night Fission and I think its perfect; it behaves similar to a lower 1/3 co-witness like to rifles. The sights sight at the bottom edge of the rmr window so its a good view. Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for the great vid! Truly excellent job. I just picked up a new G47 Gen 5 MOS and have a Holosun EPS RD-6 on it's way. Mine will be used on my duty weapon. IMO, Holosun has proven themselves as just as valid a "duty grade" option as Trijicon or Aimpoint and many LE agencies are authorizing their use and some are issuing them. Have you found a good set of iron sights that co-witness with the EPS? That's my next purchase.
So far I havent tested out any raised sights but Id go with Night Fission because they have a good range of sight heights. I've used them on my Glock 43x MOS with holosun 407k for a year, sits perfectly below the dot like lower1/3. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300 Awesome! I'll give them a look brother. I've heard good things about their stuff. Thanks!
I got the Holosun SCS for my 47 and it’s perfect. It cowitnesses with standard height sights, including my Ameriglo tritium classics.
Do you have a shooting video of this gun in action??? I love that red dot. Your changing my mind on the 507c ACSS
Right now I've got ~500 rounds through this with the EPS dot. Its a really good sight for pistols, and I have some footage from the most recent range trip. Planning to upload some short clips this week before I do a full in depth look. Thanks for watching!
Excellent video
I just finished my first 1k rounds with the EPS so I'll make a follow up video soon. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300 that would be awesome
The MOS plates are just fine, if you torque the screws right and use Loctite. Majority of the issues people have are from poor installation. That said they are are too thick by today’s standards. You get a much better mount from aftermarket CHP plates.
That makes sense. If someone really wanted to run the MOS they could make it work. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300 the CHP plates really have brought MOS back into the game IMO. But the Holosun SCS kind of made it all moot unless you really thing you need the bigger glass.
Just go straight to the CHPWS plates. The Glock plates are a better than nothing free option. For the sake of doing things right and trusting your equipment pony up the $50-75. Also enclosed emitters are the way of the future, and the future is as soon as these things are in stock. I love my ACRO on my home defense gun. The EPS seems perfect for the G19 and I can't wait to get one for mine. I have the EPS carry for the 43x MOS, but it's not installed yet. It seems to be perfect.
Im in the market for something other than chpws, I had one for my MOS and the screw holes for the slide were simply in the wrong place, I dont know how that passes QA but it was frustrating for sure, just got a refund and looking for an alternative.
@@ts20rocks The only other plate I have used is the Triga plate from Empire. I had one for my Holosun 407k on my G43x MOS and it worked fine. Just an option for you. Thanks for watching!
Wow! $82+ for that adapter plate. That's crazy!
Thanks for the video. I've never been into optics on any of my firearms. Especially not a pistol. I feel the technology for pistol optics has gotten a lot more reliable and there's a lot more options now than that RMR. I hated the idea of having to take off and re-zero just to change a battery. I'm probably getting an EPS for my Glock because enclosed emitter is superior.
Agreed, I was always having the mindset of just relying on iron sights on a pistol but after trying out the newest rmrs and other options it definitely helps. Still need to shoot more though. Thanks for watching!
how'd you get your EPS already? I ordered the green MRS version direct from Holosun in July for $355 and still haven't received it yet. Plates suck. Direct mount is best.
Why do you put tape behind the X300? A TLR-7/8 is a better fit for G19 concealed carry, sits flush.
I got mine through Kenzies Optics, but it seems the EPS come through in batches. I could have milled out my old G19 gen 4 slide but figured lets start fresh. For this specific build I'm not using it for carry so the x300 works well in my ALS holster. My carry guns run TLR 7 subs though. Thanks for watching!
The 6 MOA > MRS
I've heard mixed answers on whether you can use factory height glock sights to cowitness with the EPS. Are you able to use them through the optic?
With the plate installed, I cannot see/use the factory glock sights through the EPS window. In fact, even if i removed the plate and ran the EPS flush I would only see the bare top edge of the glock sights. Installing optics height sights for a lower 1/3 window sight would be ideal. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the vid. What holster are you using for the 43X? I think that's what you said it was. Loos like a good IWB holster. Thx.
I used the Incog Shadow Eclipse G43x +tlr-7 sub light holster by GCode. Pretty much ran the 43x for about a year and half like that. Really good holster. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300 I will check it out, thank you.
fwiw "Duty" is generally considered a daily carry term for le (or mil). As in, a profession that requires carrying a weapon for a living, so technically, this is a ccw/carry build. Not a huge deal, only specifying as you mentioned it in your title, so our le subscribers don't roll their eyes :). Otherwise great info...thanks!
So is that the 407k/507k to Glock MOS plate? How has it held up? They have the EPS to Glock MOS plate on preorder right now on C&H. Was hoping it works with the 407k/507k plate.
Yep that's correct: this G19 I'm using the CHPW 407k/507K to MOS. So far its holding up although make sure to loctite the screws. I saw that CHPW was making a newer plate for the EPS but im not sure what improvements there is, since the EPS uses the 407k footprint. Thanks for watching!
Sweet, but Expensive.. Cheaper solution is what I just got.
The $199 free shipping SW4 GatorMouth Slide Cut, RMR Milled, Threaded Barrel, suppressor sights complete FDE Dagger upper for my G19X & swapped out backplates, slapped a 407c x2 green on & she looks & rocks like a champ. (Cheap Gooche)
Keeping my original G19X slide original & in my box. 🤟
That's definitely a better budget option for the majority of us average joes. Thanks for watching!
Cheaper ain’t always better…
Hey just wanted to let you know if you are looking for co-witness iron sights. I purchased an Iron sight set from the shadows system and they are .260 front and .355 rear. With CHPWS plate can get perfect low1/3 co-witness.
This is actually really good info. Thanks for watching!
What plate is that I can't find it on the chpws website?
I prefer blacked out iron sights. Tritium or fiber optic sights are distracting when using a dot.
I also think for sure rear sights should be blacked out. I've run front tritium for a long time now so I think I'm just used to the sight picture. Orange front sight with the redot is ok for me, but tritium rear + front + redot is way to busy of an image. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300 the solar panel on the optic is extra insurance so i don't imagine needing to use iron sights.
@@BrandensOutdoorChannel the eps 6 moa doesnt have solar
Does everything in this video apply to a Gen 3 Glock?
I run with a G45 MOS 17 round mags, Trijicon RMR Type 2 3MOA, Streamlight TLR-7, and co-witness with Trijicon Night Sights.
Those TLR7 lights are really good value. Alot cheaper than Surefire lights but still really good output. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300 Yeah I get good bright light, a lot of battery life. I like that the front of the light is even with the muzzle instead of protruding beyond. It keeps the dimensions small and allows me to comfortably conceal and carry.
I have the same guy you should get the scs green dot and you don't need a plate or co witness the sights
will this plate work for a non mos glock slide? I have the TTI glock 17 slide and the right screw touches the extractor
I don't think it will, CHWPS gives a solid list for compatibility. Thanks for watching!
Hi! I have the eps carry and have had some trouble with dimming the brightness on the dot some. Seems like when I try(even after following the out of box directions) there are no changes.
I would have you just email Holosun's customer service. The adjustments so far appear to be fine enough where I have my brightness on setting 6-7 usually and it works in most environments.
Did you have to buy a plate extra??
What holster are you using on the glock43xmos
Currently using the G Code Shadow Eclipse. Its very slim, has a nice suede outer material, and covers the trigger guard well. Thanks for watching!
I put the Holoson SCS on my G19. No plate required and you can pick up the dot so well.
And you can use factory height sights. Love the SCS
After 1 year have you had to replace the battery on the eps 6moa?
So far nope, and I pretty much leave it on the setting 3 down from full brightness. The battery life seems to be legit, although for peace of mind I'd still recommend people change it out routinely. Thanks for watching!
Actually asking here. What do you do if your red dot fails? It seems like in this case if you use suppressor height sights it will fully cowitness, but if you use regular ones it wont cowitness at all. Any solutions?
Great question - on most of my pistols I usually run aftermarket night sights like Night Fission that are slightly taller so they appear in the lower portion of the red dot window. Its another expense but depending on the type of handgun and plate used, its the only way to ensure you have backup sights you can view through the optic. Some red dots like the EPS custom have built in rear irons that help you utilize your existing front sight but they aren't perfect. There are excepions like getting the slide custom milled and stuff to sit as low as possible but thats not for everyone. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300Thanks for the answer. Have a nice day :)
Thanks CHPWS plate Which model? I can't find it
chpws.com/product/v4-mil-leo-glock-mos-to-holosun-407k-507k/
although now I found out they make a better plate more fitted to the EPS rather than the 407k footprint.
chpws.com/product/v4-mil-leo-adapter-holosun-eps-eps-carry-fits-glock-mos-preorder/
Can you see the iron sights over this optic?
You can, but just the top edge of the front and rear sights. Remember these are the stock OEM glock sights still. You can always buy aftermarket sights that are taller for RMRs. Thanks for watching!
I’m looking to purchase this exact same setup for home defense. G19 Gen5 MOS with the Streamlight TLR-7A and Holosun EPS. Does anyone know if Truglo Tritium Pro Glock MOS Low NS will co-witness through this optic?
Great question. I have a feeling with the standard sights the very top edge will be visible. Someone else can share what they are running but even the optic height sights I had from Night Fission on my g43x + 407k was about lower 1/3 ish.
USD76 for the new plates vs free plates coming with the gun. Not really sure here what the benefit is.
thats fair. I have considered giving the MOS system a try but honestly at this point in time I'm pretty happy with the current setup. Im sure the MOS plates work fine for other people. Thanks for watching!
Can you help me source the plate?
The people that are cutting my slide said i was crazy for getting my G19 cut for a 507k, but now im so glad i did because the EPS uses the same footprint.
True, the 407k/507k footprint is pretty widespread now. Thanks for watching!
the eps will fit the rmsc footprint?
@@exanuel8023 yes. EPS/EPS carry/407k/507k
2k rounds before you can run it as an edc 👀…. I’d say your exaggerating a good bit 👀
honestly I remember it took about ~3 ish months to run 2 cases of my s&b 115g but in the end I didn't even edc it lol. I have more rounds through my other 2 EPS carrys now than the full sized. Love my micro compacts too much. Thanks for watching!
So the eps came with rmr cut adapter right?
Yep it did, I'm not 100% sure but it think the plate is cut for rmrsc. But honestly I preferred to stick with plates from mainstream companies. What gun you thinking about running this optic on?
@@romeoquach300 Currently Glock 19 gen5 with rmr cut.
@@rockneverdead1 Originally I found on some forums people were using the MOS 04 plate that comes with the gen 5 MOS guns but honestly just get a plate from a reputable source. The plate that comes with the EPS is rmrsc i believe, bc of the original 407k/507k footprint is a bit smaller than regular rmr but I can't check that because I don't have any rmr cut slides available now.
What holster was that on your 43x tlr7sub?
G Code Eclipse. They make the holster for specific model guns + lights. One of the best imo, very thin and comfty. Thanks for watching!
@Romeo's Rifles I didn't realize they made one for 43x/tlr7sub.
I have their g19 tlr1hl w/sidecar. Wich I don't love because of the sidecar configuration
I've always like their tactical fuzz.
I've been happy with my tenicor saga lux so far but may give this a try
Thanks m8🤙🏼
If you get the scs you don't need that plus it doesn't have a battery
What plate model number is this one?
B#100823 - it should say on the site its for Glock MOS to EPS/EPS Carry. Thanks for watching!
Just get a camera lens cleaning brush to clean the lens on your 407k
EPS or EPS Carry on G19x??
EPS (full size). Still on there, I actually just shot it today too lol. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300 thank u so much🙏🏾🙏🏾
eps or eps carry?
Just the regular size EPS model for duty sized handguns. I'll do a video on the EPS carry model once I get it mounted up. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300 ty
Drawback: 6 moa covers up target at longer ranges. Outdoor range shooters should go with 2 moa , yes ?
Give us a detailed follow up after you experience this optic.
After shooting 6MOA dots on both my carry and other full sized guns, I still don't think it really matters. Ive shot my 365xl with 6moa EPS carry at ~ 110 ish yards and at that distance the 6moa dot covers up most of an IPSC steel target (test) but still as long as you got good fundamentals you can consistent hits. I'll do a follow up video comparing 6m0a and 2-3moa dots on pistols soon. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300 I'll look forward to that 💥🎯👍
509t is more durable.
Only 1 of my friends has a 509T for testing for right but they do seem pretty durable. Thanks for watching!
@@romeoquach300 titanium is 40% stronger than aluminum, which is why the eps is so cheap.
FYI This is just a plain gen 5 with night sights and your Glock it is NOT Modular Optic System (MOS).
Makes sense. Thanks for watching!
How 🤔 ❓️ it sure looks like a MOS Glock?