The LOST ORDER That Led to ANTIETAM!!! | History Traveler 245 Lost Order
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- The name Antietam will forever be connected with the bloodiest day in U.S. history. We're kicking off a new series in collaboration with Chris from @VloggingThroughHistory on the Battle of Antietam. But before we get to the battlefield, we're taking a few episodes to show the path that led the Union and Confederates to the small Maryland town of Sharpsburg. First, we look at the spot where a lost order from Robert E. Lee was located and put these two armies on a collision course to Antietam Creek. And be sure to subscribe to Vlogging Through History to get a more wholistic view of this battle as we go along.
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We have been watching your episodes for quite some time now and have subscribed. That being said, you're extremely biased against the South and have stated many untruths about her. In this particular episode, you mention that Maryland was a slave state that rejected secession. The Maryland Legislature was very much in favor of secession, but Lincoln had them arrested and jailed. Consider reading Thomas DiLorenzo's book, "The Real Lincoln." You will quickly realize just how many lies have been perpetrated in the government school system about this war, which was not a "Civil War," but a War for Southern Independence. Also consider researching the "Corwin Amendment."
I am subscribed and I have hit the bell to get the notifactions. I love history!!!
Would you be able to come just south and visit Suffolk, Va? I have the hardest time finding information about the battles that happened here but there were several.
@@robertdesantis6205he didn’t take an oath to the union, he swore an oath to the Constitution. Big difference.
The Confederacy named battles after nearest towns, the Union after nearest rivers. You mentioned that the Confederates named the battle against Pope, the Second Bull Run, but actually the Confederates would have called it Second Manassas. Just clarifying. Great show!
Sometimes my brain and my mouth don’t communicate well. Thanks. 😅
I knew that, a lot of people don't and probably think it is 2 different battles.
Bunker Hill.....👀
As a fella born and raised in Montana with the history bug, am always jealous of the folks that live in civil war country. The amount of history in that area is amazing.
I hear you.
I was there thirty years ago and it was still pretty prestine. The Park Service was busy planting trees and reestablishing cornfields. Maybe I'll get back there some day.
They're working on reestablishing the East Woods now. Good work that they do there.
History Traveler. Taking us to places a lot of will never get to. Next best thing to actually being there. I wonder if there are any relics in the river that a soldier dropped while crossing? Hmmmm.
That’s a really good question.
If not in the river , all over the place in the nearby town of Poolesville. There was a large encampment there to protect the river crossing and, as part of it, the capital. They blasted for a new development in the early 90s and found all kinds of stuff. . The town was passed back and forth between the two armies the entire war. Lee also got annoyed at the female residents of the town because they were flirting with the troops. It was a great area to grow up in and be a history buff, because there is so much history in town and we were an hour from gettysburg and right down from Frederick and all this history. Grew up knowing about Barbara Fritchie.
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@@RLS-bu4bj I live near the Niagara Peninsula. All manner of 1812 history and battles fought near me. In fact, the area I live in was captured enemy territory. It's something else to re-enact a battle right on the actual battlefield. A farmer near here where there was a nearby American encampment turned up a British cannonball while plowing his field. The British fired a few cannon at the Americans from the lake to harass them on their way back from Stoney Creek to captured Fort George.
@@BigLisaFan I was born and brought up around the Corning area and used to go to Canada across the Peace Bridge. I now live in Texas, so I'm still in a big history area.
For reasons I can't quite define, I enjoy your Civil War content more than any other. You've covered so many historical eras brilliantly, but I very much look forward to your Antietam series. Thanks for all you do to keep history alive.
Thanks! Appreciate that.
What a great start to a much anticipated series. Absolutely love your coverage of the Civil War. Well done as always.
Thanks! Looking forward to some of the upcoming content.
1:50: I believe that the Union uses the name Bull Run and the Confederates use 2nd Manassas. Just as Antietam is used by the Union and the Confederates used Sharpsburg. Confederates used cities and the Union used rivers for names.
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My wife and I visited Antietam two weeks ago and were fortunate to have met David Duncan and Garry Adelman of the ABT by chance outside the visitor center. I took the opportunity to walk the Bloody Lane Trail which gave a great perspective on the Union approach to the Confederate positions in the Sunken Road. Looking forward to this series.
Awesome!
Thank you for educating us. I wish I had a great teacher like you when I was in school 35 years ago. I probably would have inspired to get a college degree in American history.
Thanks. I appreciate that.
JD, can’t wait for the upcoming series on Antietam. One of my favorite civil war sites, looking forward to Gary at ABT and Chris from Vlogging thru History collaboration with you. All 3 of my favorite content creators. Thanks
Can’t wait to share the content ahead!
I have always enjoyed your editions about the civil war events. Glad to see you doing them again.
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quality is only going up, i see you take pride in this work. appreciate you
Oh wow. Thanks. I was actually dreading hitting the upload button on this because I was so unhappy with the job that I did. 😅
@@TheHistoryUnderground cant wait for the next couple uploads. always wanted to visit antietam
JD thank you for these videos. While not an expert I have quite a bit of civil war knowledge. But book knowledge is not the same as seeing it. Having been to Gettysburg & Appomattox it was my goal to visit many more of the major battle sites. Due to a severe back injury & multiple surgeries I no longer will be visiting these sites. Going with you allows me to actually see these sites. Thank you so much. Additionally in the beginning you say you bring in people with more knowledge & are more intelligent. While they may have more knowledge I doubt they are more intelligent. No one can know everything; that does not make you less intelligent. Excellent video. I am anxiously anticipating the rest of the series. Thank you again
Thanks!
I am really looking forward to this series since it’s right in my backyard, I grew up 15 minutes from Antietam and spent lots of time there growing up
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So excited you are doing Antietam!! My favorite field ! I'm there almost every day! Wish I had known you were so close! Would have loved to have met you!! Can't wait to watch this series
I wish I had a history teacher like JD when I was in school, but then again these videos wouldn’t have been around back then lol
Ha! Thanks.
I went to two different high schools and was lucky enough to have two of the best history teachers thanks Mr Ryder and Mrs sheel
My gg-grandfather was most likely with them. Warms my heart to see where he was. He didn't make it home. That made a large impact on his family.
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@@TheHistoryUnderground Mine either. I was glad I got to go to Gettysburg and see where he fought.
I wonder why people don't state what color of coat their kin wore back then. Me,l always let it be known what unit my kinfolk were in. Hood's Texas Brigade-4thReg. Co. K.
I guess some people don't want to hurt leftist's feelings. I say they shouldn't be trolling for confrontation.
The people from that era, North & South had more grit than anybody of this day and age. Women as well as men.
So be proud of your ancestors,no matter which side they went to war for.
@Cary West my family wore the gray! He was in Georgia Co. K 128th. They were known as the Emanuel Rangers. It was my gg-grandfather and his brother. Henry Frank Joiner and Thomas Bailey Joiner. Thomas died of small pox in Gordonsville, Virginia. I managed to find where his grave is and let them know he indeed had family that cared. I put a marker down. I do believe Henry Frank is buried in the Hollywood Cemetery in Richmond, although I can't prove it. I have done extensive research, and I'm very proud of my ancestors. I know what kind of backbone they had. I don't say a lot because you see.....I have the same backbone. I will not tolerate someone putting them down or judging them. They did what they thought was best. Thats it. I realized that I could start a whole new civil war with my beliefs. But I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to allow anyone to destroy their memories. As for the left. No one has done anything to stop them. No one did anything about the rigged election. Not even the Supreme Court. I can't make anyone do anything. I just have to pray that the right will stand up and vote. I'm 66 years old and in bad health. I can't fight them on my own.
Thx for sharing
REALLY ENJOYED THIS ONE! SUCH A BEAUTIFUL AREA OF THE COUNTRY! CAN'T WAIT TO GO BACK THERE!
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Yay! So excited for this series.
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Back in the 1990's my husband and I crossed the Potomac on the ferry at White's Ferry quite often. I am saddened to learn that it may not reopen because the owner of the land on the Virginia side will not agree to letting them land there and won't accept a generous offer to buy the landing area, and/or the entire farm. So sad a piece of history may be lost. There are very few ferries in operation in the US.
Yeah I was kind of bummed about that.
Wouldnt accept a generous offer?With history in the balance
Back in June, my Dad and I visited Gettysburg and Antietam. We also visited Harpers Ferry. I was amazed how isolated and "calm" Antietam battlefield is. Thank you for this video!
Amazing place.
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Perhaps Antietam is the most underrated Civil War battle field?
Having been to a number of such places, I'd say as much.
@@91Redmist I don't disagree with that. I will however suggest that if you've never been to Fort Donelson, TN. Then you must go visit someday. It's very very underated.
@@jacobmasters438 I hear you. Some of those Western theater battlefields seemingly get short shrift.
Are you absolutely sure about that Port-a-John not being there in 1862? 😂
All kidding aside, thank you for another interesting video. Great job as always.
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Thank you for sharing this series! So excited as my gggrandfather fought under Stonewall Jackson in the 26th Alabama Inf. in the Battle of Antietam.
My pleasure. Got a lot more on the way.
I've been to Antietam, but my favorite battlefield is Manassas.
Loved it there. So well preserved.
@@TheHistoryUnderground I agree.
@@TheHistoryUnderground I lived a mile from the battlefield for 2 years in the 1980's and spent a lot of time roaming the trails.
Cannot wait to see the follow on episodes.
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Nice! Antietam looks like I’m gonna be binging on this channel for the next few weeks! And spoiler alert, Gary must be in a future video at Antietam. Because he posted a picture with you a few days ago lol
Yep! He’ll be popping in on a few.
Thank you for another outstanding video ! I love history and especially civil war history .
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Your doing a great history lesson here. I really enjoy it. Thanks for posting
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I'm a descendent of the mumma family and I truly appreciate what you are doing. Thank you very much.
Just so we're all on the same page, Union battles are named for bodies of water (Bull Run, Antietam) and Confederate ones after towns (Manassas, Sharpsburg). Otherwise, JD, keep going and we'll follow along. Looking forward to this series, because I had an ancestor there in the 6th Vermont.
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That's a Yankee outhouse if I've ever seen one, JD. 100% authentic. LOL Another great episode!
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A good friend of mine who passed away was the chief historian at Antietnam national battlefield
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What a great video. This is about 3 hr and 20 minutes away from where I'm originally from. I want to visit on my next visit home. Definitely a good observation on the port-a-potty! LOL. I loved that.
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Been looking forward to this series, spent a couple of days there myself. Just got back from working near Savanna GA, visited Fort Polaski, Fort McAllister, and Fort Jackson. Highly recommend all three. Learned some pretty amazing things. Looking forward to your take on the battle and the area around Antietam.
Awesome! Thanks!
I am really looking forward to this series! You do such a great job of bringing history to life! Thanks again for another great video!
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Great video JD, can't wait for the rest of the series! I've visited Antietam many years ago, and this is bringing all those memories of visiting there back. Now I want to return! Love all your behind the scenes efforts of editing, music and story line! You do such a great job! Thank you!
Thanks!
I learn so much everytime I watch your channel JD. Well done, as always.
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Such an awesome battlefield. I was there this past June.
Pretty amazing place. Love how it has been preserved.
OMG, you're near my hometown!
Nice!
Very cool! I love your presentation, it brings history to life! Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I can watch these repeatedly, always learning something new. Both armies' must always be remembered and respected, for thousands died on both sides for their values. Right or wrong, we need to honor our history, we cannot erase the bad from the good. Thanks History Traveler, you're one of the best. God Bless.
Many thanks! Feel free to share them out if you know someone who might benefit from them.
Well done👍,i'm looking forward to the next Civil war video .
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YESSS I am SOOO excited you're doing Antietam! Finally!! I know you'll do it justice after the legendary Gettysberg series. I just love your Civil War content and am so looking forward to this!
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It’s awesome to see the progress of the army’s as they went to meet in battle. What a beautiful area! It must have been a beautiful place to live in 1862.
I wonder if they did an archeological dig before they planted the corn field on the farm. It would be interesting to find things around the enslaved quarters.
Can’t wait for further videos. I like following in the Confederate footsteps on the way to Antietam. 👍😁
It would interesting to see what might still be in the ground there.
You get to see some of the most beautiful country. Thank you for sharing these videos with us so we also get to see it.
Thanks!
You are a truly a great historian, you are possibly the only unbiased historian out there.
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That's so cool JD. I love military history.
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Sir, Very well done. I always thought that the Lossing and the recovery stories of the lost order was one of several " GOD'S Will" incidents that brought us "The South" down. The North couldn't. So God had to intervene. At least that's the way I've seen it for the past 60 years. May GOD bless you, this Country and Dixie. Airborne! All The Way. Sir. David
Thank you for sharing your research
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Really glad I dropped on your channel 👌 we have very few programs here about the civil war and I find it really interesting and informative thanks very much Glyn uk 🇬🇧
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So excited about this "trip"!
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The confederates who refused to fight from north and west S Carolina based on the principles of defense only was amazing to me.
Pretty interesting story.
If ever there was a case for Devine Intervention, other than the establishment of the United States, the finding of Lee’s plan of the invasion of Maryland, is paramount.
Agreed.
I'm not usually one to point out mistakes, but for the sake of accurate history I must speak up. That exact portable toilet was on location in 1862, without a doubt. It saw a lot of action.
The Confederates were eating a lot of green corn, so it no doubt saw more action than we can imagine.
I learn so much from your videos. I loved the background music on this video!
Thanks!
It's fascinating to think or wonder how the campaign and the war would have evolved if the Lee's orders weren't discovered by Union troops!
Great work. I loved this 👍🏼😎
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This was fun. Looking forward to more.
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Great stuff and as usual I learned a lot. Interesting subject for somebody living in Sweden and never really not knowing much about this! Thanx for this.
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Read about the lost order incident in Bernard Cornwells book The bloody ground, part of the Starbuck chronicles about the US civil war. Brilliant novels built around the history. Highly recommended.
Another great video, fascinating viewing, thank you.
Interesting. Thanks!
@@TheHistoryUnderground about a northerner who fights for the south, the series starts with Rebel, then Copperhead, Battle flag and the bloody ground. Only goes up to Antietem so far.
Great work in putting this together!
Just love your productions. Thanks for keeping it all alive.
My 3rd great uncle John F. Campbell of Co. F 27th Indiana was present when they found the lost orders. This is documented in the book "Giants in the Cornfield". John's brother in law was Rebuen Hendrickson who was my 3rd great grandfather but was in a Army hospital in September of 62 fighting a severe case of diarrhea. John would survive the war but Reuben was killed in action at the Battle of Resaca in May 64.
Excited for this series!
Me too!
Always enjoy your trips an museum video. I have say that the Southerners had more in the fight, they felt their land had been invaded.
Another outstanding video, JD! The Monocacy National Battlefield is a wonderful park to explore. One word of caution : watch yourself pulling into and out of Tour Stop 2 (New Jersey Monument). The traffic and blindspots are brutal!
Thanks! Definitely plan on going back and covering the Battle of Monocacy.
Civil War Trails…the largest outdoor museum. Trails markers on Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina and Tennessee.
Love the work that they’ve done.
Great vid! Glad to see some new civil war stuff. That whole Antietam campaign is an interesting part of the war
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Addicted to your episodes
Thanks!
Awesome looking forward to the next episode
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Oh yes! you should definitely do a video about the battle of monocacy. I had never heard about it until we visited a few years ago. Such an interesting battle that I'm surprised I had never heard of. You would think that the, "Battle that rescued Washington" would be a little more popular lol
Ha! I hear you.
Thank you for the video J.D and very well none!
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Oh no way. I've been watching Vlogging Through History for years now. Just found this channel and had no idea you guys did a colab. That's awesome
Oddly enough I just went to a Civil War Forum at the Kenosha Civil War Museum yesterday and two of the presentations were about the Iron Brigade at South Mountain and also them at Antietam. Good timing!
Awesome! Hitting South Mountain next.
I've been waiting for this Series, perfect way to kick off Fall!
Very interesting. Thank you for your sharing
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I am excited to see this series!!
Me too!
I’m from this area and you taught me things I never knew. Great job!
Thanks!
The folks at Civil War Trails do a wonderful job.
Yes, they do. They've created one giant outdoor museum with the work that they've done.
LOVE your videos and channel!
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Great video mate your the best mate can't wait for the next video mate 👍love ww2and ww1
Thanks!
This is surreal to me. I lived in Franklin Cty PA and was stationed at Ft. Ritchie for several years, and never really paid attention to the history. Drove South Mountain many times. Looking forward to that one.
You brought levity to historically tragic events with that comment about the Porta Potty. Many people have no idea about how people relieved themselves and disposed of the excrement. A soldier in combat under fire , enemy observation , threat of being shot by snipers might be forced “ mess their Britches” if not doing it as a reflex under fire. Speaking with My uncles and other war veterans I often heard such stories. One Of a couple who had seen action in North Africa and at Kasserine Pass Tunisia recounted the first experience of being targeted by the German 88. How men would load their pants and run blind with fear off of cliffs and impale themselves on broken tree limbs in the pitch black darkness of the desert nights. Using fox hole and trenches and those previously occupied by others. Old time farmer’s and sharecropper’s in the days before flush toilet’s and sewer systems would dig a bit over which a simple boxlike structure with a door was built on skids or heavy timber’s . Inside might be a simple plank with a hole . After doing ones duty they would wipe with old news paper , rag soft leaves or whatever best suited the purpose. If slack lime were available some could be sprinkled on the mess. When the pile in the hole grew high the outhouse could be moved over and the previous hole covered over with earth. The whole subject of latrines and military sanitation is a subject in itself. Consider that More Men died from
Sickness than actual combat. A good example was featured in the movie The Missouri Breaks when the horse thief “ Regulator” played by Marlon Brando shot a horse thief at long distance while He sat in the outhouse.
Thanks, JD. Eager to watch your series. Know I will learn a bunch! Have gotten so much from all your preceding videos!
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Love your civil war vids the most!
Thanks! Got a lot more coming.
YUUUS....so i'm wondering more about how those orders were to have gone missing in the first place, did the currier get shot and killed, those papers didn't just go off into those weeds by them selves, i was waiting for more on that but it was not given, oh well...this is quite literally better than any book i've seen on this subject matter...love it!!
Revisiting your Civil War playlist as a run up to Gettysburg
As a history teacher, I would like to correct you on one thing. The porta-potty is a period piece. The Army of Virginia, under Stonewall Jackson, would travel with mobile privies due to Jackson's obsession with hygiene. As a matter of fact, Jackson was walking to one such toilet when he was shot in the arm and of course later died. The Union forces called the confederate toilets, "rebel johns", which later morphed into the term, "Johnny Reb".
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That is NOT how Jackson was killed. He was riding back into the lines with his staff when the sentries were ordered to fire on the party.
@@roberthudson1959 - He was making a joke based on something in the video. 🙂
well done you present it so great so much history keep up the good work enjoy your videos al the time
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I have been friends with General McClelland's desendants since childhood.
Wow!
Nice JD I have been waiting for this 😀
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Came across your efforts, to bad I started at the Bloody Lane. Now that Iam at the start alls well. Great way to see history unfold. I always like to be on the ground and so thanks for your efforts.
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JD, another awesome video! Really looking forward to this series!
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JD amazing stuff what a great video thank you
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Great content. The bloodiest day in our nation’s history. War is hell, the American civil war was worse.
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Great video as always JD.
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Fantastic, informative, an educational. Just like all your other offerings. Thank you for your hard work. I enjoyed every second.
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Another great video thanks for sharing keep up the great work 🇺🇲🇺🇲👍
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That’s what I’m talking about! Thank you! Hi-ho onward..
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