Stabicraft Imitators - Everything You Need to Know.
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- 🔥 After 32 years of design evolution in the marine industry, we now have knock off imitators. We've decided to put together an update on our imitators. Since our last video in September 2019 we've bought one and been through it with a fine tooth comb.
We can confirm our imitators do not have our CAD files. Their hulls are wildly different from anything we have produced. They trade solely on surface level imitation. "What we found wasn't just poor quality, but fundamentally these boats are NOT safe." - Paul Adams, Stabicraft Founder.
Feel free to share this video with your boating friends and fishing groups so people are aware these imitation hulls exist, and the risks they pose on and off the water
Video music by: Ikson - Auta a dopravní prostředky
And people are worried about the Chinese Navy:)
Thank you for the eye opening information. From Oregon USA
Good video - keep up the awesome work Stabi-Craft
Wow 😯 Good to see you've identified this scam Paul and this video is a smart move to educate people. I had heard about these imitations but wouldn't ever be stupid enough to consider buying one. Looking forward to delivery of my new authentic 1850 Fisher in October sometime! All the best 🙂👍
Self Sufficient Me ok not going to lie, I looked at your channel name and thought it said self suffocate me I was like 👀
Ive been subscribed for like a year you should post some fishing videos and if not on your main channel on a seperate channel
Yawn, another stabi fan boy cause he owns one, let me ask you this, if one of your tomatoes are bad, does it mean they are all bad? Quick to judge mate on someone else’s word who owns a boat company being Stabi, stabi are no angles, I’ve heard quite a few horror stories, maybe I should make a CZcams video about it. 🤦♂️
It looks like a L star motor bike I bought from China.. first jump and it snaped in half
@Freedom Family worst look how while on the copy they have 4 grown men standing in the cab but when they want to demonstrate the stabi they spread the men out evenly on the boat
This Video needs to be on Current Affairs because of the Safe and the miss us of a great produce as Stabicraft Well Done Paul
Great video mate, they are a real safety concern now let alone in 5 years with fatigue
Glad you did this. Funny as we were binging your videos, we started to see video from Gospel Boat which looked so much like your vessels. We have no budget for any boat, though loved your series "The Captain" and of course love your vessels.
Thankyou Paul for this informative video. As a novice looking into my first boat I am greatful that i came across your video. i was looking at maybe buying a boat from the market you speak of. When you factor in the potentional remediation costs against risk factor its a no brainer. Then there is the risk to my myself and family. Something you cant put a price on. Thanks for the wake up call.
You have earned yourself a customer 👌
thanks for putting this vid up! you've changed my mind for sure. although i cant get a stabi i wont be looking into the clones anymore!
Hey Paul,
I'm a pround owner of a 2010, 2050 SuperCab. Great video, letting those imitator "boat makers" have it!
On the bright side you should feel honored that Stabicraft is being imitated (so poorly may I add) it means that your getting noticed in more boat markets!
I think I'm the only Stabicraft owner in Texas (maybe) but boy, does the boat get a lot of attention when I'm out and I do my best to help people understand the benefits and safety that Stabicraft offers.
By the way, when are you going to open a plant in the USA? If you do, open it in Texas! The state has great business programs, we have some of the best welders in the country and build materials could be found locally.
Any way, good seeing ya. Cheers!
Thanks for your comment and the information! Appreciate your support, happy and safety boating! Cheers.
Resale value is huge indicator of quality, im a joiner and my 10 year old tools are selling at 80% new cost... main reason im looking at getting a used stabi
STABICRAFTS are amazing boats, these imitators have no pride in what they do and are very far from doing something as good as a STABICRAFT. Excelent explanation to help people understand the risk they are taking by going the cheap way. Cheers!!!
STABICRAFT is second to none!! Simply the BEST👍👍wish I had one😌
Don't touch a bonecrusher if a surtees is on your list. Watch the captains magazine CZcams channel for the comparo.
Just to add to my previous comment. I will definitely buy one of your boats as opposed to the invitation because I don’t like people stealing of others. And I appreciate the fact that you created a good product that others want to copy. So I would not buy their boat as a matter of principle. Even though I don’t believe what you said in the review.
I am sorry but this sounded like an advert for your product. Anybody buying one of these Chinese boats would be a fool to expect the same build quality at the price offered.
Again anybody with the basics of seamanship would understand the limitations of this boat. As with all boats you use them within their capabilities.
Having said that I understand clearly how these cheap copies could impact your business through no fault of your own
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Very well said
Having worked at a H&D marina I have seen the quality of these first hand, and am absolutely amazed that they are allowed in our country which is very heath and safety orientated. There should be some form of WOF issued for all boats. Great video, thanks for taking the time to warn a lot of people that are totally unaware of the build qualities of these copies.
False
@@captainmigs1655The only thing false here are your very predictable replies. Shit stain
Great video Paul and I agree with everything you’ve said however you have done yourself no favours with the turn in healing comparison part of the video. It shows 4 people across the cabin of the clone boat showing the poor handling. Next scene shows the superior Stabi same turn in but with two front passengers port and starboard, one just further back middle and remaining forth at rear stern. Clearly better disbursement of the weight resulting in safer turn in etc. Yes the Stabi is superior in every way except cost and you’d be a fool to purchase one but I don’t see why such outstanding companies like Stabicraft need to lower themselves when comparing inferior products. I await your response.
Regards Simon
Perfectly stated. There was more false test result comparisons also. Stabicraft are great, but some of what was portrayed and stated had me questioning
So out of that whole video the only part you actually watched was the very brief on water test? Not the electrical nightmare, the horrendous welds or the leaks galore ?
Really liked the video......please remove the annoying music.
What countries do you have customs agreements with so far?
This will not be answered due to potential financial loss due to competition. Valid question however
Lmao ⬆️
@@captainmigs1655Captain Cumstain back again
@@TasmanianDevil3 your wife like that stain 💦
@@TasmanianDevil3 don’t be jealous
Great Video you probably saved someone life but pointing out how dangerous these boats are.
To anyone who wants to buy imitation think twice “ it’s your life on and your cash on line”
I seen an imitation the other day at an Offroad caravan dealer in Perth..being a huge fan of stabi’s kiwi ingeknowhow but out of my league ($$) I’ll stick to my 6.5m savage ocean sport til I win lotto 😂 I went over to take a look 😮 the first thing I noticed was the poor welding looked like I did it with a mig😂 I was intrigued and went completely over their 6.5m and the 7.5m imitations and instantly fell in love with my old savage pressed hull slappy once again..as the missus rolls hers eyes at me saying I told you it ain’t a stabi boy 😂😂
Absolute rubbish I wouldn’t even row one..I said to the dealer if the boat is anything to go by I won’t be buying an Offroad caravan from you
Dear Paul, I have an excellent welded 4mm grade Dock Steel. Obviously not a Stabi, I believe either not available in Netherlands or not imported. I would dare to go to see with mine, I would love to go to see with a Stabi, but i would shit myself if I had to go on this imitation. Would rather take my small rib. Love your boats, love the quality.
When did boats become an investment?
Thank you
Really good video Paul. Thanks for letting people know about this. One of the reasons I bought a Stabicraft (1650 fisher) was for safety & stability on the great lakes. I have been in 1.5 m chop & it handled it without a problem & that is a 16.5 foot boat. I hear that someone in the U.S. might try to start to make knock offs of it now. I hope not. By the way get ahold of me I have a idea to make a great lakes version of a Stabicraft.
Great public service video, good on ya for exposing this dangerous and shameful imitation to everyone’s attention. Now that that is out of the way... How about getting your fine lot of engineers designing the 25 with the Ultra Centrecab configuration. The 22 is just not enough and the 27 is just a little too much for me. The 25 would be just right and I would be one of your first customers in the USA to order one. Please! ;-)
I respect your review and opinion but a few problems I see. This copy is a direct competitor against your own design and company so clearly opinion is going to be fully biased against it. I would have put the review with a professional experienced boat driver rand then get an opinion off them with out having any involvement.
Secondly and obviously you are unable to mention which brand the copy is as I am looking at some boats that are a copy of your hull. Don’t know who’s is the original designer and I am reading very good personal reviews against the copies, so it makes it hard to accept your review… but will consider it when I make the purchase.
You very clearly missed the 'independant marine surveyor'...
Drop the mtr down it will trim and turn better
Very good video and education. Thank you. I just had a wee bit of trouble understanding a few sentences with your heavy accent. All good ... 😃
paul , you should point out which factory is this
I remember seeing one on alibaba for $20000, I believe the logo is the same as the one in the video.
they are certainly imitations and those who buy them know it, they do not expect to have the same quality, especially when it comes to going out to sea once every 6 months....and given the big price difference can be interesting...
Just get the real deal I've got an 1850 supercab and has felt safe in all conditions I've taken it out and I've taken it in some rough. And really safety is the most important thing
Any chance the imitation comes from China ?
definitely
I know this video is three years old. I know you open one up in Washington is that correct? I Wish there was a dealer here in central California. I think if the boat was more visual, it would be really good here. can I become a dealer I’d be able to take people out on demos I think I could sell these boats. They just need to get out there more. I think in land lakes they would do really well. Just looking for ways where you and I could benefit. Thank you for making these boats and videos there great.
That turning angle! I was sure it would tip over.
Very good information.. Was thinking of buying one BUT, this kinda scares me
Any comments on Australia made WaveCraft boat?
As if you'd consider buying a copy Stabi, you'd have rocks in your head to even consider it! Thanks for letting me know these copies even exist!
I want a Stabicraft 2750 the Best One when are Making Them Again I need One Stabicraft
Don't you make the 1550 frontier anymore????
They shouldn’t call that other craft a clone. A clone is a duplicate. That thing is just a fake.
Can you go into more detail of the structural differences between the real thing and the imitation? I'm skeptical of any research sponsored by a marine association because sometimes it's conducted with extreme bias.
100%
He touched on that, and said he didn't want to give a masterclass on it. I agree. The reality is, you're gambling your life and money buying a knockoff boat that goes in the ocean. No arguing that point.
That's some shocking welds in the transom 🙄 and the engine bolts are coming though the welds right on the edge of the channel .Over here in Aus we are getting swamped with boats from China made out of ally I'm mostly talking about boats 6 m and under.
Good enough for a weekend warrior I guess, give it a layer of fiberglass if not sure
When will you be selling it?
What are the names of these knock off Stabi's just so we know
A lot of comments on the validity of the test, questioning Stabi vs clone, etc. All that aside, it's still a blatant theft of intellectual property. Being a Stabi owner, long time marine professional, etc, I can say that Stabi is an engineering marvel above all else, including the impeccable build and weld quality of my boat. Imagine the world if the Chinese would put their immense resources and intellect into innovation, instead of imitation. I love the fact that a small island country designs and builds what I think are the best power boats in the world, and China's only game is second-rate knockoff😂 And, to anyone arguing on behalf of the the knockoff, check back when you shit your pants after being in a real sea in that turd. All fun and games, until the shit gets real.
I remember when the 1st imitations were starting to surface. It sent social media into a frenzy, where some people were trying to justify the Chinese build saying, well most of the products we get are made in China from your fridge to your phones to your T.V
And so people were falling for it. But it's clear that boats don't fit that criteria. Just as you wouldn't really invest in a Chinese made vehicle, you would rather go for a Toyota or a European trusted vehicle.
I believe toyotas are made in china these days...
japanese were lick chinese back in the day but they improved their imitation and became the best ...
Are Profile boats imitations?
Lots of NZ makers make quality pontoon boats. If made in NZ from quality material it will almost always be a good boat. It depends on what exactly you want. Can't go wrong with Stabicraft though can you.
There are boats that look like the Stabi’s here in Newfoundland, Canada. Have you authorized any builders others than your company to build these in other country’s? @stabicraft
All Stabicrafts are currently manufactured in the South island of New Zealand.
Paul needs to get a hold of me. I got some important information for him to stop these guys.
The poor man, pays twice.
Nah, the moron pays twice and so they should.
The 1550 frontier is no longer on your site.
I’ll have to wait for my dream boat to be 20 years old the (stabicraft 2750 ultra centre cab) before I could afford one :(((
No matter what the product if there is a demand for it. Someone is always going to counterfeit it. Always buy the real thing once and once only.
Re do the test and only have one person (the driver) on each boat otherwise the test you did is misleading what scared the hell out of you is how much cheaper they are
100% how many more sardines could you squeeze into that cab lol
@@seansander5139the stabi doesn’t bog down with 4 people in the cab
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
either a stabi for me or no boat, simple as that
We have a 2100...... stabi for life!!!!!
Have hade a 559 stabi from new been on the west coast of Tasmania in some wild seas always safe because I bought this boat on its design and quality of workmen ship you get what you pay for I will be replacing it with a new model in the future don’t buy rubbish 👌
i just want a fishing Dinghy for the Nerang river
'4 persons under the shelter' and yet theres a chap sitting right at the back of your boat.. or is it only me that can see him 😅
😂 maybe not just you but only you tell the truth
Very sad. As a Stabicraft owner, I take great pride in the finer details of the design and construction of my boat. It has gotten our family safely through some very rough seas without a hiccup. The boat shown in this video is pure dogshit. Buying one of these would be a financial disaster!
Heaps of boats coming out of China are absolute garbage, a friend of mine purchased one & straight off the batt the aluminium used is the poorest quality, he spent 50k on a piece of shit that won’t last 5 or 6 years.. he is totally shattered
There is no way they copied the boat based on pictures and boat shows, they have the complete CNC files, so either a Chinese national stole the files from the factory, or Stabicraft or someone at Stabicraft sold them. If the aluminum is the same then it comes down to the weld quality
Hi Brain. They do not have the files as is evident in the construction and on water performance. They are wildly different designs. Thanks.
They have engineers/builders who travel the world taking photos sneaking measurements at shows. They gather enough data to copy it, but not at a micro-level. But enough to get a finished product on the water.
But, but, but……….here’s the scary thing.
The Chinese have the ability for rapid iteration. They will learn, change and rebuild.
Of course one could get close to making your own cad drawings from sight. Tweak it until it's close and call it good. Happens ALL the time in the Chinese knockoff world. The difference is in the details, quality, and more importantly with boats, real life testing.
Chinese clones? Ive seen few for sale on facebook marketplace.
Edit: I got curious so i asked a cousin who works at the mines inspecting welds, and he said they cannot pass his inspection.
... what inspection...
The boats are the same 6mm hull thickness and 4mm tubing Just saying……
@@captainmigs1655 i doubt its using the same materials. Then theres the workmanship.
and you don’t think the guys in China have skills and take pride in there job. Do you know anything about this company?
You don’t think they bought a stabicraft boat just like stabicraft boat one of their’s. It’s sad to see 4 ppl crammed in the front of the China boat to make it look like it’s cheap and defective. It wasn’t a fair comparison they are just mad cuz it costs 80k less and there losing a lot of revenue.
@@captainmigs1655 I have been known folks who worked in the industries that, these western boats are overpriced as heck. The marked up is about 3x to 4x of what it is. I don't know that until peoples recommend me to try out something different other than solely following the brand.
The maths just don't stack up do they, someone in China or the importer is making a lot of money while those that develop and build locally just make a decent living. $70k for something with no resale value and might cost your life if you happen to get caught in a storm plus nothing to be proud of when you have dropped $70k of your hard earned coin. Just doesn't make sense, great video and keep building great boats locally!
Sea. Sorry. But you got that right?
I was researching different aluminum boat brands and came across a Chinese made boat called, Gospel Boat, and noticed they made a few boats that looks like boats from Stabicraft and few others. My thought was, did these people copy the other brands or they got licensed to make them? Or maybe copy cats? Well, I ran into this video and now got my answers.
Send em to the US.
Why imitate?put a case to them!stabicraft is the best❤❤❤
And. You are supporting local business and local jobs by buying a Stabicraft. Never more important than now. I dream of one day owning the new 2750, it will be a genuine Stabicraft
Just found a fake one here in Alaska asking $45,000 U.S. new. we don’t have stabicraft in Alaska so I was interested in it thinking it was a real stabicraft, just under a different name. My family and I thank you for the warning!😥 I will keep looking.
There is stabicraft in Alaska. I think there is a dealer there.
@@flyingyoung4889 just looked again and found a stabicraft dealer in Soldotna, Alaska! Thank you.
I do boat fit outs Paul in Vic and have seen these crapy imitations and refused to do the job just on principle.
If you have bought one of these imitation boats then I have a great deal for you! Half price yacht fuel at only $500! That’s $500 off!! 😂
These bad copies are barely good for the waters of a windless lake! In short, it is better to have a good Australian or New Zealand manufacture !!!! I am a French from New Caledonia ... the sea and the boats, we are born on and inside.
Stabicraft is made in china, not how they load the small boat to make it nose heavy....
If you want to save 14k buy a different boat.
More like 40 k bruv
Life is cheap in China -I think you were being too kind -so Ill say it-these things could sink on you and youl wish you hadnt as your life flashes before you!!
Sighted 2 of these in Perth, WA last week. At closer look, they were absolutely poorly built. The paint looks pretty, that’s about it. Would I trust one,,, never.
Have you ever been on one? have you had a closer look?
@@euyoooo not been in one but did have a good proper look.
Absolute garbage and not sea worthy .
@@ne1273 I am sure that there are some crap ones around. Not sure how to pass on my details to you, but if you ever want a ride on a one, you can be my guest.
Had few guys like you trying to rubbish it and they changed their views 100% after they been on it.
@@euyoooo I’m am interested to see it , can you let me know we’re I can see one ?
@@euyooooYou we’re stupid enough to buy a piece of shit……….simple.
Sold Paul I got 84k hook me up mate message me
These cheap crap immitations come from China - you can see a huuuuuge difference between the 2 running in the water, The Stabi easily runs up on plain, cutting through the water while the immitation is a dead fish getting pushed by a motor which I'm sure is struggling heavily.
Would you take your wife and kids 50 miles off shore in one of those immitations - I. DONT. THINK. SO. - and no, I don't work for Stabi :-)
Don’t buy Chinese garbage you’re better off buying second hand stabi if you can’t afford new
these boats are giving stabi a bad name, I didn't even know imitator boats were even a thing, quite shocking, I'll hate to buy one by mistake