KOHBERGER -Attorney Reacts to Prosecution Admission that 3 unknown male DNA samples were NOT tested!
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- A clip from my 8/21/23 livestream wherein we discuss the Kohberger motions hearing regarding Defendant's Third Motion to Compel Discovery. The Defense is requesting that the lab reports for the "3 unknown male DNA samples" found at the crime scene be exchanged, and the Prosecution admits that they were never tested. Do you think that is important to the case? Let me know in the comments!
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Lady, you know how hard is to select jurors, right? you know why, right? because they must be unbiased, period. you are biased for Kohlberger, why? you s/b neutral. every human being wants the killer to be brought to Justice & appropriately punished for “his” savage massacre of 4 people. Whether that’s Kohlberger or JOE DOE … that motion is from few months ago & we heard nothing ever since. Now the defense attorney wants to vacate/strike the grand jury indictment, the death penalty, ban media from the court room, claim witness tampering & as she is doing all this she is NOT ready for trial to sufficiently defend him. Wouldn’t you want your “innocent” client to have speedy trial instead of seating in jail indefinitely? Hopefully, we will find out during trial who’s DNA these 3 other samples belong to. So far the Court is doing great job with preserving Kohlberger Constitutional’s rights to fair trial. Kohlberger himself is not “screaming” to the entire world that he is innocent, though?
"Lady (?)", I'm not going to be in the jury pool for this case. I am not biased for Kohberger. My BIAS is for the US Constitution.
1. That motion was heard last week, so I am not sure why you think it is from a few months ago.
2. Kohberger waived his right to a speedy trial last Wednesday, because of (among other things) these shenanigans of LE not testing the 3 male unknown DNA samples FOUND NEAR THE BODIES, so the trial is NOT happening in October, and
3. I would tell my client to NOT SCREAM HIS INNOCENCE, because "anything you say can and will be held against you in a court of law". Miranda rights 101.
It doesn't sound like you are unbiased, so I hope you are not in the jury pool.
Also, it’s Kohberger, not Kohlberger
If Koeberger was screaming would you hear him ? Stop with the ridiculous remarks about if he's innocent he would want to get it over with. The prosecution doesn't want to hand over certain items that the defense wants. You don't just say oh well guess we don't need it. Waiving his right to a speedy trial does not imply guilt.
His name is not Kohlberger, you are misspelling it and he cannot go screaming in the court room that he's innocent. He would be told to sit down or be removed. It's a process that must be followed. Also, it doesn't even have to be a male. Women are capable of murder as well.
a lot of crazy people think "screaming like a lunatic" indicate innocence😂😂while in fact Kohberger being calm confirms his innocence
@@MiaKaiser9 you think BK is innocent?????? 🙄😮😧
That is absolutely a problem. All dna should be provided. I believe that without checking the dna they are not giving him a fair trial
The prosecution does not seem to realize how all this looks to the public, pretrial. One juror that possibly becomes aware of this might raise a bushy eyebrow. Excellent vid!
I see what you did there with the bushy eyebrow. Well done. 🎯
They don’t care they framed this guy.
Hahaha! Get out the polygraphs and track down the roomies, maybe the frozen shock phase has worn off and they can remember the truth?
@@90SecondsDreamComingTrue I want to hear from Bethany!
@@falconquest2068 We will, i wonder if it will be more lies or the truth?
Wow….they needed to test everything they had to prove their point of who they are accusing. Hard to believe they would make such a horrific mistake on such a big case. 😢
Oh there's no mistake in what they're doing. I guarantee.
The fbi did alot that we don't know about.. don't worry. They got bryan of the street . Thank God
I do feel bad for the officers. I really don’t think they were being shady. They haven’t ever seen anything as horrific is this. This isn’t New York or LA where it’s pretty common place.
I do believe that the FBI and ISP ran this case and may have pulled deliberate and sneaky shit. We’ll see.
By the way, having a different view on something doesn’t make you or me a bad person. Let’s keep it cool.
the authorities did a great job catching the killer. For how messy it was he nearly could have got away with it. I do believe he would have killed again until he was caught. Sadly he got 4 really good kids. That's bad enough
Agreed.
I agree with you Melanie .. the prosecutiin must prove how they elimimanated the 2 other Dna found in the house
3 Other !!!
@@maryannhavlena9261Two in the house, one outside by the trash can.
@@Pllm30if it was her boyfriend’s dna it wouldn’t still be “unidentified” 🙄 Also, bodily fluid or other dna which is not ‘touch’ dna is less likely to show up without the contributor being in the room at some point. At any rate, any argument you can suggest about the unknown dna could be applied even more so to the sheath and the touch dna on there. It is illogical not to fully investigate all the these four dna profiles to the same degree.
Lawyer Melanie…Maybe the DNA will be tested now. Yes I think this is important in obtaining the results!!❤
Yes the results of the 3 DNA should have been released to the Defence. The Prosecution is picking and choosing what they turn over ?
Yes, they need to be provided it's important.
This is a problem the prosecution does not have a good look out of the gate.
That is like having 4 different finger prints at a crime scene, identifying one, totally disregarding the other three, and then pinning the entire crime on the one person….BK will def walk, totally unacceptable
This is something that is going to be a problem . The evidence needs to be turned over. How did they know they were male?
Exactly. It had to have been tested then . So maybe it was tested , put into CODIS and there were no hits ? Honestly though , it was a party house, so no surprise other DNA was found. If I'm on the Jury and the other evidence is overwhelming and compelling enough , I would have no problem convicting him even if it wasn't identified.
STR were done. They know there were 2 other, unidentified through codis (or the case im guessing? I know that kids were handing over their cell phones and DNA swabs just to prove it wasn't them so I would think that they would have tested against those as well, just like they tested the sheath against those people. Common sense says that DNA does not belong to any of the kids normally hanging out in the house or say... the boyfriends... If it was Jack's DNA or Jake's DNA in Maddies bed they would have identified that.) So whose DNA is in that crime scene? And why would the FBI not care about testing it? Did you notice how quickly Bill Thompson jumped up to defend the DNA? He pops up from the back row to say,, "your honor.. we didn't think this was going to be an issue..." WHAT?!? I have a feeling that it's going to be a quote used throughout this case. I don't see how a fair jury could find anyone guilty on touch DNA when there are two other male samples sitting right there.. it's baffling.. it seems so obvious they would test those. Why are they hiding the results or did they see a murder weapon sheath, find the DNA on that... Got a name (tip from FBI).. and then began building a case around the touch DNA. They started canvassing for his car. They started checking his pings. I love how they say he's hanging right in the neighborhood as if we don't all know how pings work. I can definitely see why the prosecution does not want cameras!
What yal think about the genealogy witness tampering with Martha Vargas? Like really? I don't see how you could say checking into her electronic communications then sending the FBI to interrogate her..isn't wit tamp. now she said she wants to change her testimony because she didn't read it well enough before she signed her name? She didn't write her own? And writing it? She was testifying under oath! No wonder the state was telling Ann Taylor that they wanted the names and addresses of any witnesses or anyone that could verify Bryan's alibi. Thank God she didn't give it then! I thought it was strange how she didn't add Martha until the night before.. like she needed to sneak it in and then what happened afterwards really makes me feel like she was sneaking it in. What would they have done if they knew she was going to testify to their dirt BEFORE she had testified. Now that is a scary thought!
This is my first video, I enjoyed it
@@exitscreaming4637 thank you for the conversation as it was extremely informative
@@CrimeOfTheTrueKind Ha sorry that was snarky
Uh Oh. A lot of people thought in the beginning this was a slam dunk for prosecution with all the questions regarding Brian's lawyer. I'd would sure hire her.
She great.
Not just in the house. "BUT TWO MALE DNA WHERE THE DECEASED WERE LOCATED" That means with the bodies in the rooms .. Yet the Government says don't worry about it.
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Exactly, why I CANNOT CONVICT on what we know as of NOW.. way too many unanswered Questions 💥💥
Thankyou for finally bringing this up. I thought I was loosing my mind with the judge etc not taking this seriously and with Thompson saying the DNA analysis wasn’t done??????? Finally someone has talked about how crazy this is. Thankyou and enjoy your channel. Just subbed!!!
Same 💛
Thanks for the subs! 🩷
Any and all DNA should be tested!!
If they know it's male DNA ---then it was
Yea, that’s what’s seems so sneaky.
Hell yes they should provide the other 3 dna
huge problem regarding the three unknown male DNA found AT the crime scene!!!!
When you add this utter fallacy by the Prosecution to the fact that they also sent two FBI agents to interrogate a Defense witness, if Bryan is found guilty this is fodder for immediate appeal.
Seriously.
Watching replay, it’s great to get a lawyer to explain this
Thank you 🌸
The DNA samples were definitely tested otherwise they wouldn't know they were male subjects. The defense should have access to that information.
They may have tested the 3 male DNA samples but either did not have enough to form a complete enough DNA profile OR they did not get a hit in Cotus. The defense can't expect them to hire a forensic geneologist to locate the match as hard as they have fought to discredit the FBI and their process in genetic geneology. I guess they want it both ways!
This scares me so much... as i watch i get why you said it feels like it's an alternate reality we're witnessing.
Edited to say i think the prosecution is behaving like they really don't want to know the truth, and why aren't more people screaming from the rooftops about this?
Why are the families SATISFIED with this?!? Can someone please enlighten me because I’m simply not grasping it. If these were my kids and I saw this many lies from everyone at this point and especialLY LE and mistakes and how they are hiding everything and don’t want to hand over the work but want a trial in October with no work for the defense to do their job, I would be having a real big reality check with myself coming to terms that I been lied to and Bryan may not be the guy. But NOOOO it seems that the families have a “anyone will do” attitude. They just want someone to pay. Which is getting ridiculous. So the fact that they are believing this BS and sitting there not only believing but wearing death penalty shirts with this MANY PROBLEMS and OBVIOUS COVER UPS. I don’t know?! It’s kind of classless. Jus sayin 🤷🏼♀️💯
Because 99 percent of the people have been brainwashed into thinking BK is guilty
The prosecution isn't interested in the truth, only in getting a conviction of BK.
@@Shynestarlight2013 I don't understand it, either.
There's a couple of channels where people ARE screaming from the rooftops about it, but no one directly involved is, and that's extremely concerning. I think the victims families just desperately want him to be the guy that they don't even care what the truth is.
Agreed! And what kind of system is this where the FBI does a shakedown on defenses expert witness. Hope she doesn’t go missing! Prosecutor admitted tampering with witness! I’m outraged!
💯 We all should be outraged!
To not even test the samples is beyond understanding. Like no one would notice. This is a career case for Bill Thompson. If he continues on this path, I’m concerned there will be a miscarriage of justice because he won’t get out of the way and defer to a more death-penalty experienced prosecutor. He says, “They’re hoping for something that’s not there.” Um, Bill, that would be the three DNA samples. You know: the ones that are there but are untested. (Shudder…)
Thank you. I really thought I was in the twilight zone with my opinion. Nobody else seems to be talking about this.
@@AttorneyMelanieLittle I can’t understand why it’s not an issue. Maybe it just wasn’t “heard” by others? (As a former court reporter, I tend to hear everything.) And I’m sure Ann Taylor heard it. She is preparing the appeal and taking notes every time something like this is said.
@@kirstenstrobel4387the sad thing is that Anne Taylor doesn’t do appeals from what I understand. But I agree that she is documenting these things.
Bill is retiring soon, he'll be fine with his 30+ years of plea bargaining finesse behind his belt.
They did test them, they determined they are male. Whether they are relevant to the crime depends on where they were found. I think they must have female samples too. I don’t think we know enough yet.
They need to test the 3 unknown DNAs! This could be pointing to a cover up if students were involved in this. Or if others helped Brian they should also be facing prosecution.
If they don’t provide these profiles, couldn’t the defense state that there were three profiles found which the state refused to turn over and wouldn’t that equate to reasonable doubt as to the state’s case against BK?
It actually sounds like the defense knows who the other three profiles belong to and are protecting them. Perhaps the three are connected to LEO?
@@Pllm30 The defense is also questioning how the state acquired the name for BKs profile and whether the acquisition of that evidence was a violation of due process. The state should have to show why they eliminated the other profiles without having them named if they aren’t going to name them or they run the risk of asking a jury of people like me to overlook something that might cause reasonable doubt. I know that I am reasonable enough to consider it something that might cause me to question whether he acted alone and so I believe a jury of people who are reasonable like myself could find doubt as well. I understand that the state is saying that BK acted alone, and that is why the other profiles were not relevant to the defendant, but unless the defense is prevented from mentioning the other profiles during the trial, the state should clarify why they did not include these profiles if they refuse to pay for them.
@@Pllm30 Thank you for taking the time to respond in depth with points that I may respond in like, in order to understand and narrow down the issue.
1. Understood. DNA does not automatically have an identity attached when sequenced.
2. Understood. In order to attach an identity to Unidentified DNA Sequences [UDS], another step must be taken. This step includes payment and this is only an option when a provable link from the UDS to the person/identity is known.
3. The DNA on the knife sheath was useful in this case because it was corroborated by the Coroner’s Report that such a knife that would accompany the knife sheath recovered at the crime scene was used to commit the crime.
4. State’s Assumption: there is only one perp, because the three UDS have no corresponding physical evidence that points to the commission of a crime.
5. Since the defense has asked for the chain of events which led to this conclusion (a factual one) I would have to believe that the defense has been formally given this information and that they did not have any objections to the methods used and that the judge has ruled this as admissible and not a question for a jury, since it would appear potentially to be “fruit of the poisonous tree” if obtained outside of the rules of evidence.
6. Understood partially. The corroborating evidence leading to the suspect at hand, BK, does not tell the defense or the jury how the other three UDS were obtained and excluded beyond the fact that they thus far do not have a known piece of physical evidence tying them to the crime. If that is enough for the constitution then I guess it is enough for me but the defense might have several cases to point to where this did make a difference so the state needs to have their cases showing this as well.
7. Understood. He was the state’s only suspect at that time.
7. (a) Understood. Personality profile.
1. How do we know that it can’t be proven if we don’t know how or where it was obtained?
2. Understood.
3. As could the current defendant, none of which is the concern of the public who has interest in finding the perpetrator and/or perpetrators.
4. We cannot know that unless we know how and where those UDS where obtained and/or how they were excluded beyond the fact that they were not on the knife sheath itself?
I understand that the corresponding object along with the Coroner’s corroborating report gives rise to the need to identify the UDS on the knife sheath. I believe that I have a clear understanding of this, correct me if I am wrong. However, since the public has been made aware of the three UDS, I wonder why this occurred. Did the information legally have to be revealed in order for the evidence being used thus far to become admissible? If so, then it has become discoverable for a reason and I’d like to know if the defense has the right to discovery of any more information on the remaining three UDS. This seems to be a rules of discovery issue, and I am not aware of the legal procedures and/or precedents that could create a potential problem for the state’s case, but I hope to learn.
The prosecution provided all the str profiles from the lab this includes the DNA from shealth as well as the 3 unknown samples. What the prosecution or lab did not do was run the 3 unknown profiles through CODIS
I believe Defence is saying they have NOT been provided the 3 STR profiles.
@MsPottage Anne Taylor states in her motion on 8.2.23 they have received the STR profiles.
@Pllm30 hard to know when we dont know where in the house the other two were even found.
I am shocked that they didn’t test the other three male DNA samples! 😱🙊 It is a party house and some of the girls did have boyfriends, but they should have at least tested them and ruled them out as suspects imo. It just adds reasonable doubt to the investigation. BK could have had an accomplice or may not have even been the killer… depending on whom those other DNA samples belong to.
All DNA found at a crime scene should be tested period. I don’t care if the house was a party house, it’s extremely important to properly clear every single person who had been in the house. Sorry but Judge Judge is clearly 2 pints short of a quart if he doesn’t understand the importance of these 3 unidentified male DNA.
Thank you!
@@AttorneyMelanieLittle you’re welcome
If the state didn't have the 3 other DNA samples tested it's nothing short of outrageous. If they did have them tested and are not turning them over to the defense it's also outrageous. The judge, who isn't the brightest crayon in the box, needed to order the samples tested and turned over toot sweet. This is something the state can't gloss over at trial and reeks of reasonable doubt.
Melanie you are a breath of fresh air. I just found you on youtube. I am a civil rights activist out of Seattle, Washington and I find this case so disturbing. Thank you for bringing up the points that you are. I work along side police officers and attorneys. We talk a lot about this case. I don't think bryan is guilty. I feel he was framed. Thank you I will keep watching your channel.
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I think he’s involved. No way does this guy look like he can do everything thing that was done in the time it was AND being a vegan…that would be unthinkable. However, that does not mean he didn’t have anything to do with it.
He can’t get away from the phone pings and his route to and from home…there’s a lot more here. IMO
@coleenfottrell4102 time will tell. There is a lot we don't know. Just looking for a clean trial and a clean verdict.
@coleenfottrell4102 it would be very easy to pull that off in under four minutes. Act the scenario out for yourself, and you'll see.
No kids, don't try this at home!
Idaho state lab was only able to determine the knife sheath DNA was male; presumably they got the same limited results from the other 3. But to know they were not all from the same person, they must have created STR profiles for them all.
Therefore, BT cannot claim there are no profiles to hand over!
Two of the samples were found "on or near" the victim's bodies.
How did you get this info?
In one of the court docs
Im shocked by the prosecution in this case. Seems so shady.
The DNA should be run and identified. THEN, it needs to be determined WHEN and WHY those 3 men were in the house. WHERE was this unidentified DNA found? That house had people in and out all the time because of the parties. All 3 could have left DNA at any time. The fact that Bryan's DNA was on the knife sheath, under Maddie is still very incriminating. Not testing and investigating everything is sloppy and looks bad. We want justice and that means the correct suspect.
Except one important thing- The dna they say belongs to Bryan Kohberger, is not direct dna, but trace or touch dna! It comes from a person who came in contact with Kohberger’s dna. And that doesn’t even mean directly, but even from another person or thing being touched
w/Kohberger’s dna on it. If that’s the only dna they have from Kohberger and they chose not to identify the other dna, that’s a big problem!!! How do you rely on trace dna in a death penalty case??
Remember what he said, did anyone else get arrested.
The crime scene was contaminated. The survivors called over their friend(s) long before LE were called. Further, LE first responders did not were protective clothing when they arrived to investigate the scene. Anyone could have placed that knife sheath there. Moreover even if the knife sheath was actually left there by the perpetrator, Kohberger's trace DNA could have easily gotten on the clasp button of the knife sheath by the perp' having touched something that Kohberger had handled. If the knife sheath had belonged to Kohberger, it would be expected that his DNA would be all over the knife sheath!
It is also somewhat puzzling because knife sheaths are usually looped onto a belt holding up a guys pants. You do not take the knife sheath off the belt to use the knife. It is a lot easier (multiply by 100) just to undo button clasp and simply slide out the knife. The scenario presented by smirking Bill (Thompson) and his smirking partner the police chief is the equivalent of a shooter first taking off his shoulder holster before pulling out the gun he intends to use in order to end someone's life. Nothing presented by this smirking pair passes the smell test.
What if one of those 3 DNA profiles is responsible for placing the sheath with BK's DNA on it?? The prosecution has done things like a secret Grand Jury an actually got an indictment!! Yet hasn't shown anything concrete, and then turn and go for the death penalty, and yet when it comes to the communication with the defense is way below unacceptable and subpar
@@DaniellaR-xp4cp If law enforcement hasn't confirmed it, then it's just a rumor. And where did this rumor come from? From NN reporter Brian Entin.
What blows my mind about the 3 unknown male dna found at the scene, 2 apparently located in the home and in close proximity to where the deceased were located, is this: how did LE know they were not accomplices?
It's odd they didn't apply the same methodology in the forensics across the board and create 4 IGG trees rather then 1.
Very, very interesting.
Exactly. Thank you for sharing.
@@AttorneyMelanieLittle
Thank You for advocating for the upholding of the US Constitution.
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@@Pllm30
Forensics starts at the body and works their way outward at a scene.
The 2 unknown located in the home in very close proximity to where the deceased were located have a HIGH likelihood of being actual perpetrators.
The fact State and LE knew they were male dna is proof they were tested in some capacity, then ignored.
That's called reasonable doubt.
And it makes ISP & FBI look as though they are intentionally attempting to hide the identities of the 3 unknown. Imo.
@@Pllm30The same could be said of the transfer DNA on the knife sheath. It places the sheath there.. not BK. Original testing on that sheath came back clean. THEN sent to the FBI for further testing. The profile was run..from basically one skin cell. The other DNA...let's see. Where were the samples taken from..we know near the body. Blood? Sweat, Semen? We know the testing produced a genetic profile. We have MALE DNA.. which means they could clearly see the Y chromosome. Did the prosecution not do appropriate testing and run this against known criminals?.. And if not, that's a huge mistake. So much indicates that there could be more than one perpetrator..." I'm here to Help" the speed with which the crime took place..so much easier if more than one person was there to do the crime....we saw people running away from the home.. Each Piece of DNA needs to be investigated to the fullest
The victims deserve a thorough and just investigation. Perhaps BK was a driver? Not the actual killer? Why is the prosecution trying to withhold this info..and if appropriate testing wasn't done..Why??. The defense needs that information..it's the law. Period.
Correcto! With 4 victims in 2 different rooms I would work from the assumption it was more than one perp.
By virtue of the fact that they did not test all DNA profiles they are creating reasonable doubt. I am not happy with the prosecution's attitude. Whether you have a strong case or not, provide all evidence in discovery to the defense for a fair trial.
Wow. Just wow.
Big problem! Need to rule them out at least!
Those 3 dna samples should be tested to the same degree K B"s was.
Yes they should have to submit it to the defense
This seems like a huge problem. This case is full of problems from this distance.
Im not convinced of BK's guilt at all. Its smelling like a LE coverup & a frame job. His defense attorney is doing a great job.
I am with you. I believe it is to cover up. The university was losing forty percent of its students. All of a sudden, the white car and they have a man ready to put to death. Nothing adds up but corruption.
I totally agree
Yes I agree. Something isn’t sitting well with me.
It does smell terrible for sure. Prosecution is dancing around their responsibilities in the justice process in this situation and possibly in others, too, imo.
Will Anne Taylor be able to bring up in trial that LE failed/chose not to profile 3 male DNA samples found at the scene?
And if yes, will it be revealed exactly where the DNA was found?
Absolutely all 3 should be provided
Yes I would want it tested!
They have to find out who the other 3 profiles are and eliminate them ,
Nothing but respect for you. Thank you
Thank you!
Prosecution needs to quit playing games with defense. You either have 3 DNA or you don't. They are hiding something.
@@ClaudiaGutierrez-um7ub The only man who's DNA was found on a knife sheath at a murder scene. Yeah, I'm hoping that guy gets let out real soon.
The fact that BK’s DNA was found on a knife sheath found UNDER one of the victims.
And thus should be soaked with blood. And should as well have more DNA on it - than just a tiny bit of "touch DNA". (Would never only have B.K.s DNA on it.....)
It's good to know that for me to get away with a quadruple murder, all I'd have to do is transfer some DNA from someone I knew, or ANYONE (even you), onto a piece of incriminating evidence and 'conveniently' leave it at the crime scene.
@@markstone1619 well it would have to be strategically placed and not have any other DNA on it and I would have to not have an alibi and you’d have to have my phone and btw turn it off only during the crime then turn it back on and you’d have to have access to my social media accounts so you could have me follow 3 of the 4 victims and ahead of the crime and attempt under my account to contact at least 1 of them, multiple times. Oh, and use my vehicle to commit the crime and make sure you are at the crime scene at least 12 times with my phone prior to the crime. But yeah ok then you could.
@@LorE_aka-midwestmemaw8555 This reply from you is FAR different than your original comment which only focused on one sole piece of evidence. So I do stand by my words regarding that piece of evidence.
At least NOW you're speaking of the totality of all evidence, which is a far more appropriate manner of determining the strength of a case.
However, as with the knife sheath, each of those other individual pieces of evidence have to be scrutinized/analyzed and judged individually on their own, prior to judging the totality of the evidence. That's nothing special and I'm sure you'd agree that's the proper way of determining the value & credibility of each piece of evidence.
BTW, all that other 'evidence' that you infer is more than ample to convict, is not as rock-solid as you think, but that's an entirely different (and likely lengthy) discussion.
@@markstone1619 my initial comment was regarding a specific moment in the video. I’m intrigued by the idea that I’m not allowed to have an opinion on a specific piece of information. I’m over 1700 miles away from where this horrific slaughter occurred I will never be in the jury pool for this crime, yet if I choose to believe that the correct person has been indicted, charged and arrested and currently being prosecuted that I’m coming to a wrong conclusion. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, everyone forgets the last line, I’m NOT in the court. My opinion is just that, my opinion. I’m allowed to think and speak freely on my opinion. Why are you not concerned with the attempts to silence me? 🤔
I am with you…not checking the others dna …ridiculous
If they feel their case is strong then testing 3 other dna profiles shouldn’t be an issue right? If I was a confident American prosecutor I would insist we test and source that DNA because of reasonable doubt/appeal issues. They don’t have to show their hand but at least give the defence a chance to give their client the best representation. I get pre trials are smoke and mirrors for a reason but the Sagittarius /Canadian 😂 in me likes truth at all costs… A case won on shadiness frankly is obscene…I don’t know who is guilty yet until I see all the evidence. It’s not looking good for Kohberger but…that’s only on some brief info we’ve gotten.I need to see all the terabytes ❤
Violating a commercial dna databank with a loophole and not testing other potentials. Starting to understand why they possibly not going to use the sheath at trial. This guy is going to avoid the deathpenalty with shennanigans like these.
@@ClaudiaGutierrez-um7ub Maybe
I agree those 3 DNA need to be tested and identified.
What was even more shocking was the judge asking who it would affect. 🙄 Bryan. It will affect the defendant.
I still don’t understand why the 37 day stay couldn’t have stayed in place. Other motions to stay could be denied, but it couldn’t hurt to keep that in place.
If Tantrum Thompson has it all and it is enough, there’s no reason to not give her everything; especially the 3 DNA and not excluding the attachments and other pieces of the emails etc.
“Tantrum Thompson” 😂 Comment of the Day! 🏆
It was a party house I’m surprised there isn’t more DNA profiles , but why not collect all of the DNA as suspects DNA was in a key position and let the jury come to their own conclusions, better to be transparent about everything rather then loose the case because you are laser focused on one individual
I agree! Show the jury who that DNA belongs to and why those people were ruled out.
It was clean(ed). Leaving just one footprint in front of Dylan Mortensens room. (A Vans, I read....)
@@redbarberry and that was a latent footprint that was not even discovered until the second processing of the crime scene, and only after they used Amido Black. So it was not visible to the naked eye? We can draw our own conclusions from that.
The police or prosecution don't think the 3 are suspects...they think they have the right guy...but it's the courts who decide innocence and guilt, not police.
Very well said and explained to some of the people in this country that do not understand law ethics and most of all the constitution . I feel this is absolutely treasonous!!!
How did they know it was male DNA
Absolutely should provide the other three! It would be more plausible for three people to commit the murders than one person. It’s starting to look like a witch hunt. One or all three of the additional profiles could have a connection to the defendant which could explain how his DNA got on the knife sheath.
This ^
Thank you, I don't believe the prosecution has been honest in this case, they had to test the DNA to know it was male. I think their case is weak, the sheath may not be connected to the murder weapon or weapons, no victim DNA at BK apartment, or in BK car, no evidence of cleaning!
Thank YOU!
Good point. There must have been blood to check the dna was Male in the first place. So why not try to find a match and get all the samples together to rule it out or rule it in.
Imagine if Bryan was Thompsons son , those other dna profiles would definately matter . What is so difficult about handing it over ? Their strong refusal to provide this is making me highly suspicious
That could blow the entire case! What could they be thinking!
The judge seems a little air headed.
Melanie- are you familiar with the case in Idaho where a chiropractor was charged with murdering another chiropractor? The only evidence they had was a forced confession & Supreme Court ruled Chiroprator's Miranda rights were violated. 2 Idaho state investigators made up a story, ran with it and never even looked for other suspects. Same 2 investigators on that case are also on BK's case. After reading about that case, I'm really starting to wonder if BK is innocent. I'm glad he has a good attorney.
Look up “sticker gate” …
Damn it. Once again, Miss Melanie, I missed this live, but Go bless replay, and you. You totally rock. 🥰🥰👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yay!! Don’t mess with Anne Taylor!! She is super sharp and she is going to put on a very robust defense of her client; as she should. Turn over everything, Idaho!! Be transparent!!
Brian is also telling her what he knows with law
@@maryflynn1758 Don't confuse Criminology to law. They are two very different and distinct things.
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You’re right I was thinking that after I posted
@@falconquest2068I've seen papers that Bryan has graded. One had to do with abortion rights. He was VERY well versed and knowledgable about our legal system.
@@maryflynn1758 I postive his three lawyers know the laws! Is it a bonus they have a client that know his rights yes that’s why he has remained silent. Good for him after this is all over with he’s going to be a very rich man from suing Moscow Idaho and he will probably end up changing his profession to defense lawyer😊
You are so spot on. Thank you!.If you are as far as to know, the DNA are male - you can test it further. And you should! Because you want to know, who committed these gruesome crimes.
Yes, and be able to show the jury how those other DNA samples were traced to individuals who were then ruled out!
@@AttorneyMelanieLittle Absolutely. I think there must me names coming with the ruled out profiles. This is unbelieveable, IMO. Best regards from Germany.
AT needs to get the 3 untested DNA samples into her defense case. Also on cross. It will help her raise the doubt she seeks and needs. I personally believe the totality of evidence will be damning but she needs to use these gaps to her benefit.
Absolutely they must provide
I hear it was a party house. Im surprised there wasn't more than 3.
❤ Melanie, i agree with u 💯! Thanku for not being a cupcake! Love ur insight and I appreciate ur coverage on this case! 🥰
I 100 percent agree, I have always felt like at least one other was involved but for whatever reason they are being protected.
Those need to be tested.
Do we know if the lab still has the samples? Hopefully they weren't thrown out
I think it’s good to see another perspective of things . That being said do I think he’s guilty ? Yes. I sure hope for the families sake that the prosecution doesn’t screw this one up .
Same!!
That house had lots people in and out on a regular basis and i even had seen the mayor there i thought hang on what is all these people doing at a crime scene 🤔
Something very fishy on the prosecutions side
Didn't the ''JUDGE'' then go on to say, ''They can't give you what they don't have''?
This case SCREAMS for a change of venue.
I am of a different opinion concerning Bryan and his defense team but… love you Melanie! ❤️
Love you too Holly Golightly! This is not about guilt or innocence- it's about the appearance of impropriety...and whether that will affect a fair trial.
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I the trace touch DNA supposedly on sheath metal button is questionable.
ANY dna found at the crime scene needs to be tested AND handed over to the defense. When information is requested by defense state usually says 'we don't have it' or 'it does not exist'. If you use dna to create a tree (because your first lab could not find anything then handed the dna to another lab that did) then you should hand that over to defense because, yes, you may have made an error and go the incorrect information.
If it turns out that there is evidence being withheld from defence, its going to look really really bad. This is such a horrific crime. They need to make absolutely sure they have the right guy and prosecute him without reasons to overturn. Four people died, and their families need them to get this right.
I am with you, I am for the constitution.
I noticed on one of the captions they called him “mr co-worker🤣🤣🤣🤣
So bad!
Hes something else, he doesn't want to give it and what about the exculpatory evidence that Bethany can give to the defense.its crazy this guys life is on the line and the state is resisting for what reason
What I do not understand (and I have followed this case very closely since day 1...) is WHERE were these 3 DNA profiles found???
The answer to this question is a double-edged sword but still very crucial...
1. They were found near the bodies...this would be very important for obvious reasons...
2. They were found in random places around the house... this almost causes MORE concern because how are there ONLY 3 unknown samples in a sorority house with hundreds of college kids in and out...
And lastly... how are these samples "not connected" if they were NOT tested then how on Earth do they know if they are "connected" or not... and if they DID test the "unknown" samples then why won't they hand it over... I am not pro-Kohberger or anti-Kohberger... I am pro-truth... it's that simple... this makes no sense and I am genuinely confused about what the F is going on here...
They were found on the beds near the bodies...call me crazy for questioning it...
I agree with you! There is something not right about this. Defense is doing a terrific job. Not saying he is innocent but I’m definitely not convinced he is guilty.
If I was living in that area I would want these DNA profiles investigated. There are potentially more suspects that are free and capable of committing this crime. Whether they did this crime or worked with BK, no stone unturned. This is a horrific crime. This was a mass killing with seemingly very little evidence despite the victims fighting back and a supposed single killer committing the crime in 10 mins or less. We aren’t talking about Dexter, this is real life, with survivors remaining in the house the whole time. Yes of course! Everyone is a suspect!!!
Yes! They need to do it right!
Well done per the usual ❤
So what I don’t get about these other profiles is why wouldn’t there be other dna samples if this house is supposedly a major party house? I definitely agree they need to test and share everything they have with the defense in order to have a fair trial, no question. I’m just curious why there would only have been 3 other dna samples and of only males.
I find this so insane. The testing of all the DNA at the site of the murder should have been tested BEFORE Kohberger was even named prime suspect, let alone a trial. All potential suspects should have been identified through DNA, questioned, and THEN Kohberger named a suspect once all other suspects have been ruled out. I dont think anyone realizes how insane a wrench this is in the system. This alone should be grounds for a mistrial. If Kohberger even is the murderer they're looking for, they just messed up big time by allowing any room for reasonable doubt. Even if he is a murderer, all evidence must be thoroughly vetted so this Man, who is a citizen of the United States gets a fair trial as his constitutional rights dictate. This is against his constitutional rights, I dont care if God's ultimate truth is that he actually committed the crime, the process should be the same for all citizens of this nation.
Thank you for phrasing your comment so well.
NEEDS TO BE TESTED. DEFINITELY.
The poor kids were not stabbed with the sheet, but with something else.
How Bill Thomson ever became State's Attorney boggles the mind. He is so blatently below caliber.
Big red flags of incompetence.
He sure is defensive for a prosecuting attorney. No love lost when he retires.
It is good lawyering on the part of the defense. Thanks for your objective analysis. I remember hearing this as part of your live , and it is a really good one to put up as a shorter segment. Deserves hearing more than once🙏
There is another lawyer who covered Vallow - Daybell, also in Idaho , and her take from her experience with Idaho court system is that it is still a “boy’s club”.
@@AttorneyMelanieLittleUh oh. I am agreeing w you. I had a comment above that was in response to someone else. My error. I moved it to the right place.
Mercury is in retrograde and though I am not an astrology follower - tracker, it can really screw up communications.
Just to be clear, there is another attorney who challenged the Vallow-Daybell judge and was treated in a manner that reminded me of an episode of Mad Men. I got that vibe w this judge and Attorney Anne Taylor. Just my feeling, so my remark about that case.
Hope that makes sense.
Damn Mercury retrograde! But I do love Mad Men.
Wow!!!! This is just crazy! Pro-Constitution, here, as well!
The other DNA should have been tested with its results being transparent to all involved. If they have failed to test the other DNA to rule out suspects then this is not a fair trial. Dodgy.
Problem!!
Yes they should provide it
Thanks great show ❤
Thanks for watching- this was just a clip - link to the full show is in the description ^
I think this is a HUGE problem...if nothing else, if he did do it, it gives reasonable doubt....and if they arent handed over i feel there is no way he can be found guilty period....