Jim Cornette Reviews Dave Meltzer's Star Ratings For WrestleMania 39 Night Two

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  • čas přidán 7. 04. 2023
  • From a Bonus Episode of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Komentáře • 359

  • @megawatt9242
    @megawatt9242 Před rokem +55

    “He’s still got it!”
    …”I’m f***ed!”

  • @Robby_C
    @Robby_C Před rokem +145

    I heard a quote about Meltzer actually critiquing Snoops peoples elbow... like really guy... if anything that was the most in gimmick peoples elbow of all time. I wouldn't expect Snoop to do it any other way.... not to mention he completely saved the segment.

    • @daleharris3809
      @daleharris3809 Před rokem +34

      Anytime I read "Snoop saved the segment" I shake my head. Not because I disagree, I just can't believe it even happened

    • @Robby_C
      @Robby_C Před rokem +11

      @@daleharris3809 🤣right?! the instincts are beyond remarkable.

    • @Your-wife-sexual-partner
      @Your-wife-sexual-partner Před rokem +6

      Snoop looks like Shaquille O’Neal skeleton

    • @natebaxter9551
      @natebaxter9551 Před rokem

      ​@@Your-wife-sexual-partner he looks like the skeleton of Shaq's dinner.

    • @pilot3605
      @pilot3605 Před rokem +14

      Meltzer is saying Snoop's elbow was bad??? Come on, it was an impromptu funny moment to save the scene, Snoop did fine

  • @carloslozada470
    @carloslozada470 Před rokem +385

    Why should anyone care about Dave Metzler

    • @davidnelson4347
      @davidnelson4347 Před rokem +70

      No one should. He’s a mark with an opinion like the rest of us..

    • @davemeltzers5starFNmullet
      @davemeltzers5starFNmullet Před rokem +38

      Because he has a 5 star mullet…DUH!

    • @thegoat6325
      @thegoat6325 Před rokem +23

      They shouldn't. I only care about former wrestlers or managers. Actual former wwe talent

    • @Poopooluvin
      @Poopooluvin Před rokem +11

      It’s because people respect his star ratings like they are the Bible.

    • @roccojamison89gooker51
      @roccojamison89gooker51 Před rokem +10

      We should all care about Dave Meltzer's ratings. Conrad Thompson trusts these ratings. If it's good enough for Conrad, it's good enough for the rest of us.

  • @actuallynotsteve
    @actuallynotsteve Před rokem +224

    The more I think about the Shane match the more it makes me laugh, it might be one of the funniest WM moments of all time. Snoop asking "you good, cuz?" and Shane yelling "I'M FUCKED" twice makes me literally laugh out loud every time I think about it.

    • @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
      @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Před rokem +33

      I find it funny how "I'M FUCKED!" is wrestling shorthand for a leg injury now. Both Corny and Kevin Nash had the exact same reaction.

    • @northleedspoppa
      @northleedspoppa Před rokem +14

      In show that featured
      Best hvt title match in mania history
      Best tag title match in mania history
      Best womens match in mania history
      Best celebrity match in mania history
      Another womens and a ic title match that would be top 3-4 in either category
      Shane jobbing in a handicap match to age and gravity will always be my first memory

    • @roccojamison89gooker51
      @roccojamison89gooker51 Před rokem +9

      Didn't Davey Boy Smith say something similar to Bret Hart in their match at Wembley Stadium for SummerSlam 92?

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime Před rokem +7

      @@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma It was also how British Bulldog told Bret he was still feeling the drugs he was on the last week.

    • @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma
      @Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma Před rokem +6

      @@JackgarPrime LOL, I forgot about that. Biggest match of his life and he's up all night smoking boulders. Fookin 'ell...

  • @mulldrifterz6469
    @mulldrifterz6469 Před rokem +12

    Roman vs Cody was literally on route to being one of the best WM main events ever. Right up there with Taker vs Shawn at 26. And they just couldn't let the fans have a moment. Imagine if Thanos after Infinity War, snapped his fingers and that was it, was literally the end of Marvel.

  • @InsignificantNick
    @InsignificantNick Před rokem +74

    I love that every time Brian brings up Shane's match, he can't stop laughing lmao

    • @royalty843
      @royalty843 Před rokem +6

      The rest of the world laughs along with him

    • @ziahamm1603
      @ziahamm1603 Před rokem

      Can you blame him? I'm sure that when Shane recovers even he will see the funny side of it 😆 🤣

  • @bearbear8501
    @bearbear8501 Před rokem +49

    “It was a 5 star match with a 1 star finish”
    Perfect explanation

  • @moffjerjerrod1579
    @moffjerjerrod1579 Před rokem +15

    Aww Jim, Snoop is a 51 year old non-wrestler who ended up in a situation that was totally unexpected. It was more realistic looking than the Sami Zayn/Johnny Knoxville match last year! Snoop did the best he could in the moment. 😂😂😂

  • @YeTism
    @YeTism Před rokem +48

    Gunther vs Brock Lesnar if Brock is motivated would be an all time classic.

    • @stefanm2731
      @stefanm2731 Před rokem +12

      I don't trust Lesnar anymore to put on a banger. Quite clear he doesn't care anymore and he doesn't have good matches against big dudes

    • @finnvalor1915
      @finnvalor1915 Před rokem +6

      @@stefanm2731 True but I think he can create something with Gunther

    • @stefanm2731
      @stefanm2731 Před rokem +2

      @Jeff Yeah I mean the Omos match was inoffensive it served its purpose. But it was also basic as hell, hard to really mess that up

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 Před rokem +1

      @@stefanm2731 You weren't going to get shooting star presses out of Omos.

    • @goodday2760
      @goodday2760 Před rokem

      @@stefanm2731 He's giving the people what they want. In 2015 a lot of Daniel Bryan fans were sending the message that instead of a top guy with 5 moves of doom we need everyone to only have 2 moves, one flip or kick and one finisher. He chose the German suplex as his 2nd move. A flip.

  • @UtoobSuxDix
    @UtoobSuxDix Před rokem +113

    Corny describing Snoop's elbow drop as "looked like shit until it got there" put the perfect image of it in my head and it cracks me up

    • @yoholmes273
      @yoholmes273 Před rokem +14

      Corny managing Snoop would be unbeatable.

    • @greghuffman3061
      @greghuffman3061 Před rokem +6

      Corndog

    • @Melo_Soul
      @Melo_Soul Před rokem

      Up till today i cannot get that out of my head its a moment for the ages 😂

  • @JMHStudioproductionsLLC
    @JMHStudioproductionsLLC Před rokem +27

    Travis Never Fails

  • @movementencouragedfitness5945

    “From that day forward they called me treetop” lol how come Brian’s likeness is never used in thumbnails? He’s so inconspicuous.

  • @jamirimaj6880
    @jamirimaj6880 Před rokem +8

    Personally, Miz vs Shane (w Snoop Dogg) is 6 stars for me, just for the hilarity alone.

  • @konlee4456
    @konlee4456 Před rokem +13

    I was wondering about this graphic but that analogy at the end killed me.

  • @hovz-zo8lf
    @hovz-zo8lf Před rokem +56

    The Meltzer curve is you add one star to his WWE ratings and take away one star, some times two, from his AEW ratings.

    • @thomaskia8441
      @thomaskia8441 Před rokem +9

      so brock vs omos is a 4 star match and cody vs roman a 5.5?

    • @beesterscardcorner9668
      @beesterscardcorner9668 Před rokem +4

      Something like this, but then you have to factor in parenthesis if they're his friends, enemies or if they came from 2000s PWG. Then the equation is even more accurate.

  • @john_blues
    @john_blues Před rokem +14

    Snoop was 5 stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

  • @mikemathias1562
    @mikemathias1562 Před rokem +18

    Gunther has the most deserved 5 stars matches❤

    • @NuckFappy2012
      @NuckFappy2012 Před rokem +1

      Yup

    • @wwltd3036
      @wwltd3036 Před rokem +1

      Earns them all

    • @Melo_Soul
      @Melo_Soul Před rokem +1

      At this point he has more than most people who have been there longer than him!!!

  • @ashleyquintanar727
    @ashleyquintanar727 Před rokem +7

    "What Does Dave Know?"
    -Jesse Ventura

    • @SomeoneElse-
      @SomeoneElse- Před rokem +1

      "The little puke", if I recall correctly lol

  • @ogrearmyof1
    @ogrearmyof1 Před rokem +20

    The fact I had to wait the whole video to get the thumbnail made it that much better haha

  • @northleedspoppa
    @northleedspoppa Před rokem +31

    Shane Vs gravity was 5 stars at least

    • @PlinianPixelArt
      @PlinianPixelArt Před rokem +9

      I really thought Shane was gonna win, but Father Time's interference really gave Gravity a screwed finish. Really incredible match.

    • @jleffel6969
      @jleffel6969 Před rokem

      At the very least, he didn't crash through the wall or trip running to ring and slide underneath the ring.

    • @northleedspoppa
      @northleedspoppa Před rokem

      @@jleffel6969 this will be up there with them and the booker T interview as the four pillars of botching heaven

  • @mjl221
    @mjl221 Před rokem +21

    I was amazed at how many matches Jim and Meltzer weren't that far apart on. I think when it comes to big WWE events, Dave must, in his mind at least, grade on a curve as compared to how he rates AEW and Japanese matches.

    • @northleedspoppa
      @northleedspoppa Před rokem +7

      I think it may have something to do with the fact the Usos aren't busting out the 1-dave anytime soon

    • @KobashifanSam
      @KobashifanSam Před rokem +3

      Dave just grades on a curve for aew compared to WWE. Some matches they had in aew should not be rated high due to all the spot heavy waits yet they still got 5 stars.

    • @coldnightmare199
      @coldnightmare199 Před rokem +1

      Didn't you write this exact same comment on the night one video

    • @mjl221
      @mjl221 Před rokem +1

      @@coldnightmare199 Yup.

  • @MilMaska
    @MilMaska Před rokem +28

    "Remember in the 1980s, Dave Meltzer’s Wrestling Observer gave a negative 1 star to an Ultimate Warrior match" - Jim Cornette

    • @Chaz4543
      @Chaz4543 Před rokem +9

      Who cares ? Kids in the 80s who were huge Warrior marks didnt even know who Meltzer was then and didnt know what matches in Japan he was giving 5 stars to. It didnt matter then and it doesnt now.

  • @RyanGRyan1985
    @RyanGRyan1985 Před rokem +16

    Brian still laughing at shane 😂😂😂

  • @McGomezAddams
    @McGomezAddams Před rokem +9

    Shane needs to win a Slammy

  • @benellis9665
    @benellis9665 Před rokem +6

    Ten minutes of wondering why Travis drew this picture then Corny nails it! 😅

  • @davemeltzers5starFNmullet

    Had the main event been Omega vs Vikingo in the Tokyo Dome, WrestleMania 39 would’ve easily received 7 stars!!!!!!!

  • @Teddy42O
    @Teddy42O Před rokem +29

    I don't know who Jim Cornette hates more Kenny Omega or Meltzer

    • @biggains1
      @biggains1 Před rokem +12

      Meltzer and Omega merged 3 years ago. We have a Zetsu Zetsu situation when it comes to those two lol

    • @ryanrichardson76
      @ryanrichardson76 Před rokem

      Shit stain

    • @joshuaDstarks
      @joshuaDstarks Před rokem +10

      - Shitstain
      - Unka Dave
      - anyone who has wrestled in DDT

    • @XombieLejon66
      @XombieLejon66 Před rokem +3

      Who would you hate more? Someone you hated from the start on a fundamental level or someone you fell out with that you once considered a friend for 30 years?

    • @JPD2587
      @JPD2587 Před rokem +3

      @@XombieLejon66I’d hate Dave more because it’s more like a betrayal. Kenny is just an idiot who might not even know better. Plus, Dave is kinda responsible for Kenny’s status

  • @BubbAXHydE
    @BubbAXHydE Před rokem +6

    As a B'ham man, I definitely dig and chuckled at the "I'll send ya ta Birmingham" line. 😄
    🤘✌️💙🐓

  • @SupaKMW
    @SupaKMW Před rokem +9

    That picture is crazy😂

  • @JackgarPrime
    @JackgarPrime Před rokem +6

    Meltzer really likes the hard-hitting, beat-the-piss-out-of-each-other style of match, so it makes sense that he'd give the IC title match 5 stars. I actually have similar tastes, so I agree with his rating there, but I don't think it would be a universal rating depending on tastes.

    • @ultimungo3423
      @ultimungo3423 Před rokem +1

      Yet he loves Aew which hasn't had more than five in 4 years.

    • @adamcadzow9996
      @adamcadzow9996 Před 5 měsíci

      I have similar tastes also, stiff brutal and physical matchups is what I love the most.

  • @hoganshairline4175
    @hoganshairline4175 Před rokem +36

    cornette should do his own star ratings

    • @frankE91210
      @frankE91210 Před rokem +9

      he used too back in the day.. him and weasel

  • @alanmacdonald1457
    @alanmacdonald1457 Před rokem +4

    i loved seeing snoop off the ropes, he looked like some dude who was very excited to get to try it out

  • @hyweldavies5662
    @hyweldavies5662 Před rokem +1

    Uncle Dave's mad. The Miz vs Shane McMahon/Snoop Dog was the best thing about night two. 6 stars for me 😂😂😂

  • @cameronlujan89
    @cameronlujan89 Před rokem +3

    That thumbnail is amazing when you stay til' the end 😂

  • @roccojamison89gooker51
    @roccojamison89gooker51 Před rokem +10

    The Miz will be in a match against Dana White later on at SummerSlam. Miz will put over Dana White.

  • @tobiasfarragut292
    @tobiasfarragut292 Před rokem +6

    Had I noticed Lazy Booking in 2K23 ida lost my shit 😅and had to explain to my son why

    • @4cuttime
      @4cuttime Před rokem

      Lmao that is awesome 😂

  • @JenzKeller
    @JenzKeller Před rokem +10

    Bonus Episode? What a nice easter egg to find...

  • @dlmoney11
    @dlmoney11 Před rokem +4

    Geez even with context this artwork is still insane😂

  • @heelturnsface
    @heelturnsface Před rokem +2

    Right after Cole yells, he’s still got it, he says, nope.

  • @riffhousestudios96
    @riffhousestudios96 Před rokem +4

    Snoop dog was instructed by the camera man to punch him

  • @AlastairMacAoidh
    @AlastairMacAoidh Před rokem +26

    Fun fact: Gunther has the most 5 stars matches than anyone in WWE History with 5

    • @TheTennesseeFistMachine
      @TheTennesseeFistMachine Před rokem +3

      As he should

    • @OneWarriorNation91
      @OneWarriorNation91 Před rokem +7

      What about box office?

    • @danielburger1775
      @danielburger1775 Před rokem +9

      ​@@OneWarriorNation91 That doesn't matter to Meltzer.
      It's about "lots of moves"...

    • @thegoat6325
      @thegoat6325 Před rokem +10

      Who in the world cares about five star matches? Beniot would flex gunther and outwrestle him. Rip the goat

    • @kingslayer2999
      @kingslayer2999 Před rokem

      Gunther looks bland as a tall skinny guy with no meat on him he was better as being fatter

  • @aarontaylor6889
    @aarontaylor6889 Před rokem +1

    You had a perfect chance to have an animation of Corny and Snoop sharing a doobie!

  • @convictionnotice1
    @convictionnotice1 Před rokem +4

    ... and now I need to see Brock vs. Cooter Benchley.

  • @davidgalvez5341
    @davidgalvez5341 Před rokem +2

    "No one got hurt." The bar is set real high these days... . 🙄

  • @mmassacre2633
    @mmassacre2633 Před rokem +8

    Travis wildin with the thumbnail

  • @porscheprairie3232
    @porscheprairie3232 Před rokem +1

    How can you tell what draws for mania these days? Don't people just go just to go at this point? Don't you have to book your tickets like a year in advance?

  • @michaelsingletary4526
    @michaelsingletary4526 Před rokem +3

    Cooter Benchly my all time favorite wrestler

  • @Your-wife-sexual-partner
    @Your-wife-sexual-partner Před rokem +36

    Imagine if those matches were held in new japan Meltzer would give multiple 6 stars

  • @yoholmes273
    @yoholmes273 Před rokem +2

    "Would've been 7 stars in The Toyko Dome. "
    - Dave Uuuuh Uuuum Aaaah Meltzer

  • @seanchan4478
    @seanchan4478 Před rokem +1

    Perfect match for me needs to have a good build, believable in ring story telling, great in ring performance, no botches, a few spots, and an emotional finish.... BTW, I have never seen a perfect match

  • @steelenigma17
    @steelenigma17 Před rokem +1

    I did it for night one but here is night twos rating using Dave's 7 star scale he uses for Japanese promotions and AEW. So here is the WWE being fair.
    Brock vs Omos - 5 stars
    The woman's tag 4 3/4 stars
    The IC three way - 7 stars
    Bianca vs Asuka 4 1/2 stars
    Edge vs Balor 6 stars
    Cody vs Roman - 6 1/2 stars (with a negative 5 ending)

  • @jtrain100179
    @jtrain100179 Před rokem +2

    Snoop vs Miz rating should have been 4.20 stars

  • @TheBobRick
    @TheBobRick Před rokem +2

    All time greatest thumbnails.

  • @insupportofjunhado
    @insupportofjunhado Před rokem

    Did Dave and Jim ever publicly discuss star ratings before they're falling out, before the six star Kenny Omega Kazuchika Okada match?

  • @yogsenforfoth5948
    @yogsenforfoth5948 Před rokem +1

    I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Cody losing at Wrestlemania happened simultaneously as Vince returned to creative. Vince couldn’t help but screw the fans over YET AGAIN.

  • @vsmith1688
    @vsmith1688 Před rokem +11

    I'll never understand why so much significance is given to Meltzer's ratings. It's literally just some dude's subjective opinion.

    • @wonipowa7542
      @wonipowa7542 Před rokem

      When I first started participating in online wrestling discussions I thought they meant something until a few years passed and I realized that they don’t actually mean anything

    • @christophermccray6528
      @christophermccray6528 Před rokem +1

      Heck, I don't understand why people take either him or his won awards seriously. After looking at which wrestlers and companies won the 2022 WON awards, I lost my brain cells.😂

    • @Chaz4543
      @Chaz4543 Před rokem

      At the height and peak of pro wrestling's popularity (Monday night wars) very few people gave a shit. His ratings got more and more significant as pro wrestling got less and less popular and watched and everyone got a internet presence and a podcast. I never heard him him brought up much in the 90s to early 2000s. Only after pro wrestling got less popular and youtube and podcasts became more popular did I hear him talked about.

  • @TheGoodLad89
    @TheGoodLad89 Před rokem

    Well that Thumbnail is gonna haunt my nightmares, going forward 😵‍💫

  • @michaelminton8143
    @michaelminton8143 Před rokem +1

    name a move after meltzer like the young bucks did and you will get 6 and 7 stars all day long.

  • @Plexpara
    @Plexpara Před rokem

    1:39 "did you se he he he hee?"

  • @it5J33zy
    @it5J33zy Před rokem

    Yea, this the wildest video art so far 😂😂😂

  • @WrestlingTeaTarot
    @WrestlingTeaTarot Před rokem +1

    Snoop Dogg ran the ropes perfectly he had a pimp lean on the ropes and he was great just as he was and a great moment🎉

  • @willkenshin
    @willkenshin Před rokem +6

    That triple threat match is the type of match you should give 5 stars to. It had everyone and no weapons needed

    • @MarsofAritia
      @MarsofAritia Před rokem +1

      had too much of the people disappearing for long periods of time for no reason though

    • @willkenshin
      @willkenshin Před rokem +1

      @@MarsofAritia to allow the guy to get a breather and let the other 2 fight in the ring. These aren’t small guys, these are guys over 6”3 240+ so one of them disappearing made sense to me. The camera never exposed the missing guy either in that match

    • @MarsofAritia
      @MarsofAritia Před rokem +2

      @@willkenshin yeah but they're gone for 5 minutes at a time after just tumbling out of the ring. really takes you out of it wondering where they are

    • @darksideon
      @darksideon Před rokem

      It was, Cornette just doesn't like Sheamus.😄

  • @simonantill5161
    @simonantill5161 Před rokem

    I thought the 4 finger stinker was going to take us down a terrible road ( I blame the Internet)

  • @n.e.i.l9248
    @n.e.i.l9248 Před rokem +3

    Why is Dave still relevant 😂 them damn stars ⭐️

  • @Presto_King
    @Presto_King Před rokem +4

    Just ordered my green and white beret! Ready to observe and report! Hahaha best community in wrestling.

  • @BlackPawn14
    @BlackPawn14 Před rokem +1

    - Lesnar-Omos could've gone a bit lower, yeah. It was fun, it made Omos look good (before he got Bork Smashed) and nothing was botched, but you can only do so much with Omos.
    - Women's 4-way... could've gone even lower. This made even less sense than the men's showcase, and had less spots.
    - Gunther vs Sheamus vs Drew... yeah. You could say it was a 5-star match in spite of being a triple-threat, but they did manage to use the dynamic to their advantage, using the Sheamus vs Drew feud for the emotional heat, and Gunther for the excellence of execution.
    - Asuka vs Bianca was alright. I actually liked it, but the lack of a story held it back heat-wise.
    - Shane vs Miz got no rating.
    - Snoop vs Miz was a joke. Just give it a DUD and be grateful that there were no negative stars.
    - The main event... Jim said it. 5-star match, with a finish that took away all the heat (and about half a star's worth of rating).

    • @Ted_Bell
      @Ted_Bell Před rokem

      Omos needs to stop screaming after every basic move he does.

  • @joiekelly3141
    @joiekelly3141 Před rokem +4

    Has Omos ever won on a PPV?

    • @Diego7Santana
      @Diego7Santana Před rokem +3

      with aj together at wrestlemania against new day i believe

    • @joiekelly3141
      @joiekelly3141 Před rokem +3

      @@Diego7Santana but No singles win I believe

    • @RafaelSantos-di5yw
      @RafaelSantos-di5yw Před rokem

      ​@@joiekelly3141 Survivor Series battle royal I think

  • @TravJam317
    @TravJam317 Před rokem +1

    Dave now works on a 6-star scale and gives one star instead of DUDs. So take his ratings and subtract a star and you'll get his old rating.

  • @Strangepete
    @Strangepete Před rokem +2

    "It wasn't a draw but it was an attraction."
    Wait, what? Isn't that the same?

    • @RainmakerXBooty
      @RainmakerXBooty Před rokem +3

      no, a draw is what you paid to see, what drove you to come, an attraction is a bonus for coming. just a pleasant surprise more than anything

    • @darksideon
      @darksideon Před rokem

      @@RainmakerXBooty Not in wrestling. Brock was still considered a special attraction while he was champ.

  • @benespinosa6725
    @benespinosa6725 Před rokem +7

    Gunther Vs Sheamus vs Drew McIntyre was fucking phenomenal on night 2

  • @j4ward95
    @j4ward95 Před rokem +1

    My wife’s boyfriend named my kid after Dave Meltzer and Dave himself gave him 1 star.

  • @Regigie
    @Regigie Před rokem

    That was not the people's elbow that was the people's pawbow 😂

  • @bvs-79
    @bvs-79 Před rokem

    Artwork is immense

  • @ianomachino6233
    @ianomachino6233 Před rokem +1

    Mjf called Dino douche, Dino douche Wednesday did anyone else catch that?

  • @jayduncan758
    @jayduncan758 Před rokem +1

    Kotter Benchley would have been a bigger draw then Brock Jim. The Velveteen Dream can single-handedly save professional wrestling. The 2k wwe game no new moves it sucks aew video game still has a chance if it ever can come out

  • @jleffel6969
    @jleffel6969 Před rokem +3

    Travis "Tree-top" Heckel

  • @ksdnsdkumar1375
    @ksdnsdkumar1375 Před rokem

    @10:04 One star match ?
    @3:40 You guy are waiting for this

  • @stephendwane8166
    @stephendwane8166 Před rokem +2

    Ohh ffs the artwork needs context 😂😂😂😂😒

  • @davidgalvez5341
    @davidgalvez5341 Před rokem +1

    Leave it to Jim to illustrate in such a plain and vivid way what's like to have a fantastic match with an awful finish.

  • @keithyw
    @keithyw Před rokem

    most of these ratings, i don't have a problem with for night 2. i do think the snoop/shane/miz segment was a DUD rating as a match just because it got screwed up...as sheer entertainment because it was real in a way and completely unintentional with everything going wrong and right at the same time, it was a lot of fun just because you get to laugh at the people you want to laugh at for being stupid. so pure entertainment/comedy gold value, it's 5* as per Brian. maybe the the three way with Gunther was a bit high for me. people liked it in the audience, the right person went over, the stiffness/realism for a modern environment, etc. i just personally couldn't get it into because of the build/structure of it. it still felt off for me no matter what and it obviously can be attributed to it being a 3 way.
    the main event up right up to the "sports entertainment" stuff was 5* with the build, drama, etc. then everything after just killed what was left. overdone, people are tired of Reigns even though he is The Man (sorry Becky) right now, where the story needed to go, etc. all i know is that if i spent a horrid amount of money for a WM39 ticket in this current economic environment and i was there to see Cody win, i would never watch another WWE show ever again afterwards. even if there were previous plans for Cody, this is where you needed to cancel those plans and make new ones because of the momentum he was building and all the expectations that were being created that needed to be fulfilled in that moment. why give someone a "finish the story" catchphrase and just pull the carpet away? why sell t-shirts, etc. with something like that and have it rendered absolutely meaningless? it's friggin' Wrestlemania. Its not like Roman couldn't eventually win the title back. but it's just a situation where you have all the right variables lined up and because of previous plans and/or "we need to defy expectations" where you can ultimately just kill a match, the fans, a future star and a promotion whether it was Hunter, Vince, the Endeavor deal, etc.

    • @darksideon
      @darksideon Před rokem

      It's funny how people ignore stuff when it doesn't fit their agenda. If people are tired of Reigns, then how come half the stadium held up the☝️after he pinned Cody? There was a large sector of fans that wanted Cody to win, but no one except some little kids are devastated that Roman retained. They've pretty much guaranteed that Cody will be walking into Mania next year as champ.

  • @hutrod7721
    @hutrod7721 Před rokem +1

    Snoop has a Wrestlemania win against a grandslam champion 😂

  • @Meatball2022
    @Meatball2022 Před rokem +1

    Saw ric flair screw up running the ropes once. Arm misplaced. His head went under the top rope. Top rope snapped back and Broke his nose. And that’s someone that’s been at it for 30+ years at the time.

  • @mistanderson
    @mistanderson Před rokem

    Bianca vs Asuka is a 4.25. TF he rated Snoop vs Miz

  • @jasonjimerson7046
    @jasonjimerson7046 Před rokem

    Bring back the DUD rating!!!

  • @MisterKidd555
    @MisterKidd555 Před rokem

    Shane McMahon vs. The Miz:
    8 1/2 stars
    Greatest WrestleMania moment ever

  • @TheChodax
    @TheChodax Před rokem

    Four finger stinker means something completely different these days!

  • @JustinChristopher-ov7gw

    1st match: 2 stars
    2nd match: 2 1\2 stars
    3rd match: 5 stars
    4th match: 3 stars
    5th match: - 50 stars
    6th match: 3 3\4 stars
    7th match: 4 stars

  • @matthewhostetter8974
    @matthewhostetter8974 Před rokem +1

    Uncle Dave is never going to give Roman a 5-star match, he just isn't. Plus it didn't have any Tumblesaults or Omega. GUNTHER/Sheamus/Drew was a 5-star match and the best thing during the entire Weekend, which is why Dave had to rank some random New Japan match no one watched higher. Asuka carried the match and should have won no matter the rating, if they had built the match up properly it could have been as good as Rhea/Charlotte. Counting Miz/Snoop Dogg as a serious match is just Dave trying too hard. Edge and Balor was better than anything on Dynamite that week.

  • @ButWhatIfItIs
    @ButWhatIfItIs Před rokem +3

    Really? that women's tag got higher than Theory and Cena? Even Cena's strikes with another 10 years ring rust will look better than most of anything done by Shotzi period.

    • @4cuttime
      @4cuttime Před rokem

      I agree, the women's tag team was horrendous

  • @televiper11
    @televiper11 Před rokem

    Meltzer has become a grade inflationist

  • @roberttharpejr7828
    @roberttharpejr7828 Před rokem

    No body hits the ropes like Rey

  • @Big.Stepper.
    @Big.Stepper. Před rokem

    Suddenly every pro wrestling talking head is using the phrase, "in the weeds".

  • @Hypno_BPM
    @Hypno_BPM Před rokem +3

    damn imagine 6 months of rehab for 1 min in the ring 😂

  • @NYCrazyRob
    @NYCrazyRob Před rokem

    4:55 L.A. Knight

  • @2011nphelps
    @2011nphelps Před rokem +1

    The only people who give a fuck about star ratings are guys like omega and the bucks lol

  • @greghuffman3061
    @greghuffman3061 Před rokem

    Snoop pinned a former world champion. Lawl. Thats almost as ridiculous as the fact the Miz is a former world champion

  • @Ahedratron
    @Ahedratron Před rokem +3

    Never trust Dave “this match was better tan this 5 star match, but im not going to give it 5 because of WWE” Meltzer and his ratings.

  • @mjt07f
    @mjt07f Před rokem

    So Brock v. Omos outscored Fury v Cena? Hahahaha and same score as the horrible 4-way women's match?! Hahaha

  • @sxedirtbag
    @sxedirtbag Před rokem +1

    Snoop still ran the ropes better than Alvarez

  • @raiderlove5923
    @raiderlove5923 Před rokem

    I'd give Lesnar vs Omos a 2.5 star rating.