Gretsch Drums - Jazz vs Metal - avec Nicolas Viccaro et Yann Coste

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
  • Nicolas Viccaro et Yann Coste vous présentent les Batteries Gretsch Drums New Classic et Renown Maple dans deux styles très différents!
    Nicolas utilise :
    - New Classic Vintage Glass : 22"x18", 10"x8", 12"x9", 14"x14"FT, 16"x16"FT
    - Caisse Claire : Gretsch USA Acier G4160SS, 14"x5"
    - Accessoires : Gibraltar Serie 9600
    Yann utilise :
    - Renown Maple Satin Black : 22"x18", 10"x7", 12"x8", 16"x14"FT
    - Caisse Claire : Gretsch USA Hammered Copper G4164HC, 14"x6.5"
    - Accessoires : Gibraltar Serie 9700 Turning Point

Komentáře • 781

  • @tiny_tim3012
    @tiny_tim3012 Před 2 lety +20

    This video is a part of my childhood growing up as a drummer. I wanted a set of Gretsch drums so bad.

  • @GretschDrumsFr
    @GretschDrumsFr  Před 11 lety +61

    Hi guys.
    As we mentioned before, there is no point comparing two styles of music. that is just a matter of taste!
    this video is just about fun and shows how Gretsch drums sound in these 2 different music styles.

  • @Nugtroen
    @Nugtroen Před 4 lety +39

    Cmon legendary jazz drummer Louie Bellson had already invented the double bass drumming back in 1950's... So, accidentally he is the all father of extreme metal drumming...

    • @Vaylon.
      @Vaylon. Před 3 lety +6

      metal and jazz came from the same roots, so that's not very surprising...

    • @eyeless9882
      @eyeless9882 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Vaylon. that’s probably why at their cores they’re the same thing

  • @viktorblack2792
    @viktorblack2792 Před 8 lety +166

    I am a proud Metal guy, but I must say Jazz dudes takes the cake for technique. After all Jazz is known as THE most difficult genre to play... BUT Metal on the other hand is known for Raw Unchained Power WE ALL LOVE and admire! METAL FOREVER! :D
    Cheers!

    • @Kmikaze_Boy
      @Kmikaze_Boy Před 4 lety +1

      xD

    • @keithallen635
      @keithallen635 Před rokem

      Jazz is far from the most challeging genre to play.Anyone who can't keep even time is already playing jazz..just like the New Orleans non musically inclined slaves that invented it on Sundays.

  • @Ddrumzzz12
    @Ddrumzzz12 Před 3 lety +13

    Im telling yah man! Jazz players can play anything, precise flams to accented drum chops, theyve got it all.

    • @Thenewbronzeagecollapse
      @Thenewbronzeagecollapse Před 8 měsíci

      Hahaha, how cute... Jazz players can JAZZ. You can watch jazz drummers attempting at other complex genres (like extreme metal) all over CZcams and you'll see that they struggle just like non-jazz drummers attempting to play a swing.

  • @andrebenedecti
    @andrebenedecti Před 11 lety +18

    Nice video!
    The Jazz drummers were the pioneers! They were the great masters!
    The Metal would not exist without the roots of the Blues!

    • @sebastian6121
      @sebastian6121 Před 2 lety +3

      it would, metal can perfectly be independent of blues.

    • @silva7903
      @silva7903 Před 2 lety

      @@sebastian6121 bruh what do u even know jazz history thats not how it works

    • @sebastian6121
      @sebastian6121 Před 2 lety

      @@silva7903 you don't understand technology progress, was just a matter of time to metal to appear

    • @silva7903
      @silva7903 Před 2 lety

      @@sebastian6121 bruh wdym without blues rock wouldn't exist without rock metal wouldn't exist either, it's evolution and music history, metal ddin't just "spawned" in our society

    • @sebastian6121
      @sebastian6121 Před 2 lety

      @@silva7903 you're assuming that blues was the only genre with 4/4 or pentatonic scale when those sounds were already all over the world

  • @MoobysnaxPercussion
    @MoobysnaxPercussion Před 10 lety +324

    A lot of the comments here are cancer. Drumming is not a competition and the video was made for fun.

  • @fjboumboum
    @fjboumboum Před 12 lety +5

    Bravo !
    Merci à ces deux batteurs pour leur talent...et leur humour..
    Et tout spécialement Yann qui devrait faire du cinéma :)

  • @GretschDrumsFr
    @GretschDrumsFr  Před 12 lety +176

    Don't take it too seriously! these videos have been made to show how Gretsch Drums Kits sound... these are definitely NOT made to show some technical moves.
    Take it easy!

  • @GretschDrumsFr
    @GretschDrumsFr  Před 12 lety +4

    Thanks, mate.
    Don't worry... more videos coming soon!

  • @alemutasa6189
    @alemutasa6189 Před 4 lety +3

    Jazz CHOPS are so much cool. As a metal drummer, jazz drummers always amaze me for their level of coolness

  • @markomedencic2140
    @markomedencic2140 Před 6 lety +5

    There is a jazz/metal band callled Le Scrawl.
    For all of you that enjoyed.

  • @jrusso7660
    @jrusso7660 Před 12 lety +2

    I for one, love this video. Such a nice contrast of sounds. Wow, I love the ring in those toms. So rich and well dampened. Great vid.

  • @Kmikaze_Boy
    @Kmikaze_Boy Před 4 lety +7

    Jazz = technique
    Metal = crazyness + speed

  • @ollie0130
    @ollie0130 Před 4 lety +19

    1:11 that is all i want from a black metal drummer

  • @joaquinalfaroallen4310
    @joaquinalfaroallen4310 Před 10 lety +82

    0:37 sepultura-territory :3

  • @Drummerz24
    @Drummerz24 Před 11 lety +1

    The most important thing to remember is....music isn't a competition. I've seen metal drummers do things it would take years for jazz drummers to do, and vice versa. While learning different to play different genres will make you a better drummer, it isn't a requirement. If you like jazz, play jazz. If you like metal, play metal, one isn't better than the other, it's as simple as that.

  • @GretschDrumsFr
    @GretschDrumsFr  Před 12 lety +2

    Nicolas is a very good jazz drummer. Check out the other videos on the channel. you might change your mind

  • @TheLusepo
    @TheLusepo Před 11 lety +2

    I think the point of the video is to show that they have good drums for different genres. Either way it all depends on preference, I started off with punky and fast but often monotonous beats but as I have progressed I find it more appealing to try lots of different vintage rock, funk and some jazz beats to add some flavour to the sound and also because you don't just learn new techniques, but also the history of drumming more as a whole

  • @JacobChatelain
    @JacobChatelain Před 12 lety +1

    Best video ever!!! Plus it really let's you compare the tones of the two different sets. Thanks Gretsch!

  • @plaguedoct0r
    @plaguedoct0r Před 11 lety

    Thanks, checking him out now.
    People say; metal drummers all learn jazz but jazz drummers don't learn metal. I've found this to be absolutely true, and i've grown up playing saxaphone in big bands, very musical family.

  • @Gnarlynateprodukshun
    @Gnarlynateprodukshun Před 12 lety +14

    HAHAHAHAAHAH! this is the funnest thing ever.... It took me 5 years to realize i should of learned jazz first before skipping straight to punk pop/hardcore/metal..as you see with just knowing how to play jazz you could play anything, their wouldn't metal if their wasn't jazz

  • @AnielloCastillo
    @AnielloCastillo Před 2 lety +3

    Maravilloso... ¡LARGA VIDA AL JAZZ!

  • @baraskparas9559
    @baraskparas9559 Před 3 lety

    Funny AND great drumming from both.

  • @ErickLopez-iz3on
    @ErickLopez-iz3on Před 6 lety +2

    Ambos géneros son excepcionales!!

  • @fondraivanando7942
    @fondraivanando7942 Před 4 lety

    7 years, good content

  • @riceboy287
    @riceboy287 Před 12 lety

    wow these guys an amazing job complimenting each others playing it was entertaining

  • @GretschDrumsFr
    @GretschDrumsFr  Před 11 lety +3

    Ladies and gentlemen,
    we are happy to announce that some new videos will show up in the next few days... with a special guest!
    Mesdames et Messieurs,
    nous avons le plaisir de vous annoncer que de nouvelles vidéos ont été réalisées et seront publiées très prochainement, avec un invité exceptionnel!

  • @PhilippePrevost83
    @PhilippePrevost83 Před 11 lety +1

    I absolutely agree with that too. A jazz drummer who can't work a double pedal, do a short solid blast beat, or go all out energy when the time is required, is as crippled as the metal drummer who can't do paradiddles and find the hi-hat pedal from time to time, both are missing on very cool options in their drumming repertoire. Like a bodybuilder who's all strong from the top but no cardio and no legs. It's much better to be good at everything, than awesome at some and suck at others.

  • @BazzillioBJ
    @BazzillioBJ Před 12 lety

    Brilliant sense of humor ))
    thnx for a good mood

  • @Normanek72
    @Normanek72 Před 3 lety +1

    I like the brush work

  • @barackobama8066
    @barackobama8066 Před 3 lety

    I feel so old rewatching this

  • @jonahmartinez6374
    @jonahmartinez6374 Před 10 lety +200

    Not a very good example of metal drumming.
    Of course this is for laughs, though.

    • @mojolayne
      @mojolayne Před 10 lety +13

      aerogun18 No. They're just showing that a jazz drummer can do the same as a metal drummer.

    • @DBSaiyanTim777
      @DBSaiyanTim777 Před 10 lety +1

      Why not a good example? Want to hear emo metal?

    • @jonahmartinez6374
      @jonahmartinez6374 Před 10 lety +2

      DBSaiyanTim777 It just isn't what I'd consider a true example of what metal drumming is about. All he really does is double bass and blasting and there's more to metal than that. But, as I said, it's a joke, so I don't care that much.

    • @viniciusbertucci
      @viniciusbertucci Před 5 lety +8

      This is punk drumming, not metal.

    • @pumasgoya
      @pumasgoya Před 4 lety +1

      @@viniciusbertucci no

  • @imretardedand4441
    @imretardedand4441 Před 8 lety +5

    Jazz was the first music with the drumset we know

  • @IkanGelamaKuning
    @IkanGelamaKuning Před 4 lety

    I listen to wide range of music. I can say that they are indeed good in their own style. No winner and looser.

  • @CWillGuitar
    @CWillGuitar Před 11 lety

    lol! Good ole fashion trading 8s. Great drumming and great humor. Yann kills it at the end with the brushes and that look of injured pride.. Thanks for this..

  • @rackjice2952
    @rackjice2952 Před 10 lety +18

    haha Yes! Clearly Jazz

  • @grace180402
    @grace180402 Před 12 lety

    Absolutely Brilliant..more please...love the humour.

  • @JamesWaton
    @JamesWaton Před 3 lety +3

    that jazz dude would easily be at home in a metal band when he picked the sticks up

    • @evilrides2298
      @evilrides2298 Před 3 lety +1

      be at home with infant anhilator, yeah lol

  • @SamuelFister
    @SamuelFister Před 9 lety +11

    I think it just takes two different kind of skill sets to play Jazz vs Metal. With jazz, drummers seem to play the instrument more "melodically" (like Max Roach), whereas Metal drums require heavier, straightforward rhythm, without having to worry as much about nuance.
    I like Jazz more, that's just me, but that's not to say Metal drummers are just a bunch of wild-armed hacks either.

    • @Drugon-Dag
      @Drugon-Dag Před 2 lety +1

      I agree with you, both have elements alot different than the other. Great comment 👍

  • @TomzMusicFlix
    @TomzMusicFlix Před 11 lety

    For me I don't look at this the way some of the others do here. To me this is just a parody and a well done one at that, a great clip and top playing from both sides. Both drummer's sound great in this clip and both styles have something to offer.

  • @jacoblfka8323
    @jacoblfka8323 Před 10 lety +2

    awesome love the jazz

  • @nelsonwk9367
    @nelsonwk9367 Před 6 lety

    Amazing and funny!! Both of them!!

  • @SmokeyTallica
    @SmokeyTallica Před 12 lety

    The comments are making me sick.
    This is actually a very good video and they are both good drummers!

  • @powernuke4984
    @powernuke4984 Před 4 lety

    Metal and Rock is making my adrenaline rush while drumming and Jazz makes my muscle crazy with this shifting of hard and soft. Jazz is tough, indeed it is.

  • @ghostgate82
    @ghostgate82 Před 8 lety +13

    Native Construct says [insert "why not both?" meme here]

  • @rhythmantic
    @rhythmantic Před 12 lety

    Fabulous drumming and concept video.

  • @samjohnson2008
    @samjohnson2008 Před 12 lety

    the jazz snare... WHOA. GORGEOUS!

  • @francismcgovern5042
    @francismcgovern5042 Před 12 dny

    such a great/entertaining video!!

  • @TVdau
    @TVdau Před 12 lety

    hey guys, I love your videos
    very funny and incredible good drumming
    hope you will post some more
    all the best
    Michael

  • @Musikgizelle
    @Musikgizelle Před 12 lety +1

    Que duelo Maravilhoso!

  • @tangchiprathomo819
    @tangchiprathomo819 Před 2 lety

    Both are great in their own rights. Though I'm more lean to jazz. Props to the metal guy for his awesome energy!
    Perfect minimalist set::: Drum: Gretsch Catalina Club; Piano: Nord Grand; Bass: Fender Jazz Bass.

  • @danielenicoletti5820
    @danielenicoletti5820 Před 5 lety +2

    0:53 Wake Up Dead?

  • @RiderNAGO3
    @RiderNAGO3 Před 5 lety

    ちゃんと音止めてくれるロックドラマーの優しさ

  • @xGeRnAdEoZ
    @xGeRnAdEoZ Před 4 lety +2

    I play jazz influenced beats with my metal friends and it still works lol

  • @Opuskrokus
    @Opuskrokus Před 12 lety

    It's what metal is about, being loud! Yes, I am a meta head. Great video!

  • @ktvx.94
    @ktvx.94 Před 4 lety +2

    0:58 when you finally get your act together after a nap

  • @ATK-p1j
    @ATK-p1j Před 4 lety

    Nice sounding kit

  • @shancoll001
    @shancoll001 Před 5 lety

    Brilliant love the ending

  • @paulshumate2904
    @paulshumate2904 Před 5 lety +1

    That's awesome

  • @DigitalDrummer
    @DigitalDrummer Před 4 lety +1

    Metal kit: Daddy loves me more because im more popular!
    Jazz kit: Daddy loves me more because im smarter!
    Me: Now now kids...i love you both DIFFERENTLY.

  • @chetgallardo2616
    @chetgallardo2616 Před 9 lety +3

    Ofcourse jazzers win, the concept of jazz music as a whole is to be free of rules governing music, so it maks it dynamics is ever changing. Plus Jazz music has been around more than metal did. Its one of the foundations of music genre the proceeded after it.

    • @jonpryor2656
      @jonpryor2656 Před 9 lety

      Jazz, Blues and Rock (including Metal) all have the same roots.

  • @potatosalad69420
    @potatosalad69420 Před rokem

    Fantastic ending❤

  • @GretschDrumsFr
    @GretschDrumsFr  Před 12 lety +1

    when you'll see the upcoming video... you'll only think about Gretsch!

  • @mandomandorukot
    @mandomandorukot Před 12 lety +1

    in reality,it depends on the drummer how he attacks and show his idea in a specific genre..any genre can be creative.technical.more dynamic etc

  • @Eclipserocksyou
    @Eclipserocksyou Před 12 lety

    Awesome Video!!!!...

  • @mostlypeacefulslav1663

    I am a metal drummer, but I respect jazz guys a whole ton. Even if I don't like the music.

  • @dannyleebrat
    @dannyleebrat Před 11 lety

    awesome ~~~ love this

  • @InsaneCombo13
    @InsaneCombo13 Před 12 lety

    I'm a metal drummer and this video is hilarious!

  • @thtdudewiththehair
    @thtdudewiththehair Před 12 lety

    Jazz and Metal did once have a fight but in all the passion and anger they started making love. 9 months later prog metal was born.

  • @gamesandguitars8929
    @gamesandguitars8929 Před 6 lety +1

    It was so funny when the metal pretty much crush the first go and the jazz drummer picked up a pair of brushes!😂

  • @aljonbalbido1508
    @aljonbalbido1508 Před 12 lety

    check out other videos of this 2 guys...they are both jazz players

  • @prodrummerbill
    @prodrummerbill Před 12 lety

    These videos are hilarious!

  • @wojciechpanow9723
    @wojciechpanow9723 Před 6 lety

    Great video :D

  • @blacklabel254
    @blacklabel254 Před 12 lety

    for anyone that doesnt know most of the things you hear in metal came from jazz
    for example alternating blast beats.

  • @danibateria5556
    @danibateria5556 Před rokem

    Jajajaja me encanta que maravilla 😃😀

  • @TomTheDrummer
    @TomTheDrummer Před 11 lety

    I find this so sunny. e.g. 30secs. A musically phrased/tastefully syncopated bit of drumming is just returned with what sounds like a man having a fit with a chainsaw.

  • @MartinPerez-yv4fu
    @MartinPerez-yv4fu Před 11 lety

    There both great styles of playing drums don't hate it's music

  • @braedenpilgrim
    @braedenpilgrim Před 12 lety +1

    It's only "necessary" if you want to not grow as a drummer and limit your creativity. The moment when you set rules for genres is the moment when you limit both your mind and physical abilities as a performer.
    The fact that you don't think jazz players can play a double pedal is one of the most hilarious things I've seen on the internet all day, good on you!

    • @evilrides2298
      @evilrides2298 Před 3 lety +1

      aight, now bring a jazz player that doesn't play double bass, and make him play 270 bpm with only swivel technique, good luck

  • @Pome1
    @Pome1 Před 3 lety

    Love it.

  • @LETSpeakTRUTH
    @LETSpeakTRUTH Před 11 lety

    dude hes actually not kidding that is one baaaaad example of a metal drummer. and yes metal drummers know how to play soft and with dynamics but the songs that they play usually don't allow them to due to the heavy nature of the songs.

  • @Subparanon
    @Subparanon Před 8 lety

    I finally bought a Gretsch kit and I just noticed it's the same kit Yann is playing in satin black. lol

  • @Cracksmacknhash
    @Cracksmacknhash Před 12 lety

    pure awesome!

  • @Customwinder1
    @Customwinder1 Před 4 lety

    That's awesome 😂👍

  • @MartyMcFlyV
    @MartyMcFlyV Před 9 lety

    Love it!

  • @uzebuz
    @uzebuz Před 12 lety

    Cool !

  • @SixDRUMMER
    @SixDRUMMER Před 11 lety

    i have got the black set :) ist awesome :)

  • @RaulRamirezdrummer
    @RaulRamirezdrummer Před 10 lety

    awesome!

  • @user-qh4nl5gw4t
    @user-qh4nl5gw4t Před 5 lety +3

    I thing I'll take Gretsch Drums

  • @magadanalfyvanna.3461
    @magadanalfyvanna.3461 Před 8 lety +49

    most jazz players can play rock but only rare are those rock player who knows jazz scales

    • @spacejazz6272
      @spacejazz6272 Před 8 lety +6

      true, but I don't know any jazz players who possess the same power that rock drummers have, or any that'll be able to play it with the same conviction. that's what makes rock hard

    • @cuauhtemochernandez9512
      @cuauhtemochernandez9512 Před 8 lety

      Are you sure ??

    • @facubozzi7395
      @facubozzi7395 Před 8 lety +22

      really? scales on drums?

    • @rdrummer2
      @rdrummer2 Před 8 lety

      +Stephen Barlow it doesn't matter how hard you hit the drums, but how you hit it to get the maximum sound out of it. Rock drummers hit it hard because if they don't, then the guitars and the singing would cover them. but jazz drummers don't have to hit it hard, but if they do, they'd rule over rock drummers, because not only they have the strength, they also possess the speed required. so yeah jazz is better than rock

    • @therino9695
      @therino9695 Před 8 lety

      +The Usurper Lol

  • @sultankosmitov6293
    @sultankosmitov6293 Před 6 lety

    Jesus, I want that Classic snare!

  • @joseluismunoz5174
    @joseluismunoz5174 Před 10 lety

    Anyone know the piece Viccaro plays at the beginning of the video by any chance?

  • @heartseed478
    @heartseed478 Před 9 lety +3

    How I interpret this video:
    Don't diss musicians from other genres. Being haughty doesn't make you any better.

  • @jaycekeffer
    @jaycekeffer Před 10 lety +2

    hahahahaha funny as hell. I am a drummer myself, so I am always checkin these out. I watched the last 10 seconds 5 times in a row laughing

  • @trinados
    @trinados Před 12 lety

    Love it! :))

  • @dima_r6
    @dima_r6 Před 11 měsíci

    this video just proves fusion/prog metal drummers are the best on earth.

  • @LsamuxD
    @LsamuxD Před 4 lety

    2 videos que he visto de esto, 2 videos en los que hay una clara tendencia al jazz xD

  • @BxCortez2050
    @BxCortez2050 Před 4 lety

    Neither " was better" than the other they both are great at what they do

  • @slonuh
    @slonuh Před 11 lety

    Super !!! :D

  • @none5020
    @none5020 Před 6 lety

    Okay the first three times Nicholas played it was jazzy (especially the third time) but I don't know if, as a jazz enthusiast, I would call that fourth piece "jazz".