THE TRUTH ABOUT LUCKY SEVEN & MORE LORE DROPS - Xenoblade 3 Aionios Moments Artbook Interview
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- čas přidán 31. 03. 2024
- Just think, this entire hour long video is just from 18 pages, or about 4% of the book. Now it's true that the density of important info on a lore level will probably go way down in the rest of the book, but the truth of the world still remains - we are far from finished here. Let's begin exploring new secrets Xenoblade 3 has to offer.
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#xenoblade #lore #secrets - Hry
We've been calling Fiora "Seven" for over a decade. I'm surprised we had to be outright told to figure "Lucky Seven" out!
......god dammit you're right.
That is becauzse it was always a silly fanname and people have actively been lobbying in the community to throw it out by now.(And I am keeping on it, it stays trivia in the german wiki I am still cooking up privately.)
I can't believe I hadn't at least considered it for a moment. Probably because I was too busy trying to figure out how Lucky Seven was tied to one of the Trinity Processors.
@@lpfan4491 I think it still makes sense. It avoids spoilers for those new to the series. it wasnt until 2 came out that Xenoblade was this popular. So many people just dont know who the seventh party member is. So call em "seven" to let them experience that reveal themselves later.
@@anubion42 Ignoring that we are in a 2024 world where official media itself spoils older games rotten, I'd prefer the method where I just don't talk about how many partymembers the game has, it is more spoilerfree overall. "Seven" as a name kinda has that one built in, see the issue?
And it definitly has no place on a wiki imo, you are not supposed to be on a wiki if you want to avoid any and all potential spoilers forever.
Riku called Fiora "Seven" to protect the main cast from spoilers?
**Long slow blink**
OMG, you're right! 😅
That strangely fits riku character.
"I made enemies more comically evil because that's closer to reality" is a goated sentiment, and just one of many many reasons why Xenoblade 3 is just the best.
Me: *trying to explain to everyone why Z’s “it amuses me” line is an impactful insight on his character and the futility of using entertaining distractions to help yourself delay you from the inevitable march of time and the need to look inside yourself to move forward in life*
Takahashi: “He’s just saying that kind of thing because evil like a rich CEO is evil”
I bow to you, king 🙏
It's also kinda sad. Takahashi really said, "People IRL are more evil than anything I could imagine."
I get what he means, but I still think it's boring as hell. They're just not interesting, and they quickly became just a forgettable mean and formless antagonistic force that made me roll my eyes many more times than I'd like... Such a shame. They're probably why 3 is the Xenoblade game I like the least. I still absolutely love a lot about it, but, man... the moebius as villains were a terribly executed idea.
I mean.. its true.. but i think there many kind of evil in the world, those who are just evil because they only care about themselves or their family although they had a good life (or at least descent) or those who had it hard in life and are broken and then those who since they were born their brains function in a way that makes them see the world in a different and concerning perspective OR more prone to violence.
@Afbuster it is absolutely NOT a goated statement. Takahashi is an idiot for saying that and all of you are simpleton for finding insight in his feeble inbred brain.
Xenoblade 3 had horrible villains and cartoonist villains DO NOT EXIST. Every single person you hate in real life has a motive and no matter how gluttonous they may be, they genuinely believe in their cause.
Takahashi spent too much time copulating with his mother and drinking bleach.
Okay, setting the Riku lie counter to infinity, then immediately setting the (previously non-existent) Manana lie counter equal to the Riku lie counter is hilarious.
It makes me think that there are potentially 2 Bana's running around Ionios, which to me is bloody hilarious.
@@nhodgieMeyneth help us all if the two of them ever decide to team up.
Shulk 🤝Rex
Waifu Swords
As far as we know, Shulk didn't actually marry his sword.
As far as we know.
@@kevinr.9733 weeeellll, they kissed so...
@@Gameboy-2007-yt plus if we look at nikol's hair, it bears a striking resemblance to fiora's (mainly in the xc2 key art), so I think it's safe to say also boned and had a child... so marriage is definitely on the table lol
@@kevinr.9733 Did you not look at the Affinity Scene in Dunban's house?
Didn't Rex literally use "brother-in-law" when talking about Dunban in Future Redeemed?
And while Rex was asking a question, Shulk's reaction tells me that Rex was correct
Takahashi saying that yes "Lanz is a Machina" also confirms something that has been debated on the Xenoblade Wiki... which is the obvious... and that is that "yes, the races of XC1 and XC2 exist in XC3 even if it's residents don't acknowledge it".
Seriously had some good arguments on the boards of the wiki cause people insisted we couldn't list Lanz, Eunie, and the like's race in their profile cause it hadn't been "confirmed".
I mean to me it was obvious enough, their body physicality's, as well as accents and such all indicated these things.
I don’t see how it’s debatable. They have the traits that make them the things. Are people really so scared to extrapolate information from incomplete data?
@@Gloomdrakeiirc people were hesitant to because their aging wouldn’t make sense. I always thought they were high entia and machine because… look at them, and they existed pre Aionios anyway. Plus there’s side quests that outright say Lanz has metallic skin
@Gloomdrake Trust me I didn't think there was much of a debate either but I got a lot of resistance on adding the race of XC3 characters to wiki pages.
The claim being that they might not actually be said race, but instead they were just "resembling" or having characteristics that were similar.
Until Future Redeemed that is and one of the side quests had a whole thing confirming that genetically characters were High Entia and able to enter the treasure room.
With that and Takahashi now confirming Lanz race is in fact Machina though there is no contesting it at least.
Huh? People were actually arguing like that when the game beats you over the head with it? Just because e.g High Entia is a human race in Xenoblade 3 and no longer its own species due to "Origin soup"-reasons, that does not mean that they are not directly related and Eunie is no longer a High Entia somehow. All this statement did was tell us "btw, the races are not officially unnamed, they share their names with their original pre-Aionios counterparts because why wouldn't they?".
Edit: This reminds me of "Malos' blade weapon is not a Monado!"-wars back then, when bro literally uses Monado Arts.
@@lpfan4491 Never heard about that before but I don't put it past people, that's actually kinda funny.
3 Luxin videos in less than 2 weeks, 2 of which are over an hour long, is absolutely nuts
“hey some people seemed confused about this lore detail. Could you explain that a bit?”
“no”
44:35 I know it's a joke "Rex, who apparently just by having married Pneuma twice is also on the same level as those 2." But Rex had the power of the Conduit flowing through him for a couple months. I think that VERY much qualifies him
He also had his power flow through the conduits
I definitely agree if one was to mate with what are essentially the daughters of God you'd gain some kind of Godlike power.
Thinking about it, what would that make Dunban and Addam then? (And also possibly Amalthus, Mumkhar, and Egil). They couldn’t control their conduit power as much as Shulk and Rex but they still could to use their powers effectively.
@@Pine2142 That is terrible logic, if we go with that then if one were to mate with a dog one would gain dog like powers.
@@Magic_Ice All of them except Dunban, dead. And not actual candidates of the Monado (they were all rejected, Egil hijacked it, and Amalthus never truly bonded with Malos,). So it would effectively make them nothing
Cant believe they announced Xenoblade: 4 Swords Adventures in the artbook
Jesus 2: the Sequel no one knew they wanted
Isn’t Jesus 2 sort of the whole point of Christianity? 🤔😂
@unownintendo not really the point is him coming back not their being a second jesus
@@danielfazylov6960 no exactly, like Jesus 2: Jesus Returns!
51:23 it’s definitely Dunban. He’s wielding Dunban using Dunban’s fighting style. Reyn isn’t a bastard sword-type Pokémon so I doubt he’d be comfortable inhabiting one, and I can already picture Dunban coaching Shulk or critiquing his technique from beyond the Origin Metal
Dunban wielding a smaller Dunban
@@GloomdrakeI feel like I've seen an edit like that somewhere, but I can't say for sure.
@@Gloomdrake Dunban wielding the Dunnado and using the art Electric Dunbuster.
@@Gloomdrake "dickson said the monado had a hidden monado, the hidden monado had a hidden dickson, the hidden dickson had a monado"
Counterpoint: The Monado REX has a portion that looks like a lifesaver.
I’m glad you addressed the “of the end” part of the title of the sword and fists of the end, cuz Noah’s katana is called Lucky Seven, but with the sheath it’s called the sword of the end, like how Matthew’s gauntlets are called the fists of the end, which further supports that the “of the end” part of the title refers to a trinity processor core, which means his sheath does contain Pneuma’s core Crystal which is great.
Now the real mystery is, what the hell did Noah rename his Lucky Seven to?
Noah's Gauntlet (which *is* the sheath) can also project a yellow/gold-ish energy shield, just like Blades can in xc2. You can see this when he goes to stab Isurd's Colony's flame clock and he blocks the giant laser
@@ShallBePurified when you upgrade his sword it's called 'Truthsinger', so I assume it's that.
I'm adding this comment because it seems most people misunderstand the whole deal with Pneuma's core.
Pneuma's core crystal isn't physically anywhere in Aionios. Look at the scene again: the core only appears in that moment, it wasn't there all along. And it is transparent, because it's not the actual, physical core, but just a manifestation of Pneuma's power.
Consider also that A says that what make Matthew's gauntlets special is that they contain Origin metal, not a core crystal. And Riku explained that Origin metal can contain the souls and memories of the people just like Origin, and that Lucky Seven contains the soul of someone important for Melia.
So, just like Lucky Seven contains Fiora's soul, the Origin metal in Matthew's gauntlet contains both Mythra's and Pyra's, and that is why Pneuma's power can manifest.
Mythra and Pyra themselves, just like Fiora and everyone else, are among the people assimilated by Origin, which was managed by Ontos alone. But since Origin metal works as it does, they manifested in Aionios like that.
Shame this video isn't named "1 hour of XC3 information we (mostly) already knew"
But in all seriousness, this information just makes me excited for the future of Xenoblade.
if malos comes back as permanent party member i would FREAK OUT, i want it so bad. a malos which is finally free from amalthus & is trying to make amends possibly hundreds or even thousands of years after.
I NEED redeemed Malos and Mythra’s kid hanging out saving the world and shit.
Maybe even with Kos-Mos too 👀
@@jujuthehoms5482 I imagine they would make the greatest toxic chaotic good pairing of all time that sounds incredible lol
I want Rex to punch him in the face and then have a drink with him afterwards.
the terrible influence however a cool uncle@@jujuthehoms5482
@@ndartehkewl1282 oh it would be terrible lol “I see why mom didn’t like you”
35:10 about this whole mess, the only kanji shared between actual Monado Arts and Lucky Seven arts are for Buster (which we know to be a standard Monado technique) and PURGE.
The only know people to use Purge are Alvis (the master of the Monado system) and Shulk after Alvis thought it to him.
What if (and crazy idea here) what if Purge is a Meyneth Art that Alvis gave to Shulk just to help out?
And thus because Meyneth was in Fiora, Fiora carried some of that to Lucky Seven
I could be wrong, but shouldn't all Monados be linked to at least one of the Trinity Core processors to access the conduit meaning every Monado in XC1 gets their power through Alvis. It's possible all of the Trinity Core processors could use the same arts, but due to Alvis being awake the whole universe of XC1 compared to Malos and Mythra who were not awake until Amalthus they did not learn how to use purge.
Like maybe you just have to understand the feeling of how the power is manipulated to utilize purge, but once you know how it feels you can always use it. Buster is a more standard energy manipulation that is easier to learn which is why Malos could use it pretty much after awakening. Foresight is also a power the processors can learn which is why Alvis and Mythra have it, but again due to time spent learning about the power of the conduit Alvis has much better foresight. Basically every processor can have any power since they are learnable as they are just extensions of the conduit's power not an inherent part of the processor themselves. However if you have no clue how to utilize the conduit's power it will not work for you. Like Klaus could not utilize it properly which is why the world split.
Alvis learned and mastered more of that power than any other person which he shares in his Monados. He might not teach every Monado user, but he leaves the pathway for that power to come out in his Monados. Meyneth being alive as long as Zanza and thus the world/Alvis could have learned how to utilize the purge power without being taught like Shulk. Mythra/Malos have not learned these powers thus any weapon they create would not have the abilities that Alvis can impart on his creations like purge. Meyneth having the purge arts is due to Alvis and her being in Fiora gave Fiora the ability to feel that power/pathway even if they never used purge themselves.
Well this just makes the already ridiculous family connections even more ludicrous. Both Nikol and Glimmer got to meet their mothers without either of them noticing. Also N's sword is literally is wife's uncle. Noah probably has the single strangest way to "meet the in-laws" I've ever seen, and I'm not talking about Nia.
Most of these connections were possible to draw already, but of course Takahashi just had to go and say "no, the objects in question are _literally those characters."_
Yes he yeet them to the sea lol. You can imagine real world meeting if all of them have memory...
The fact that we got so much cleared up in this artbook just goes to show how much the developers care for their audience.
It's great that most things aren't spoonfed to us and that we get room to interpret, but it's also great that Takahashi and his team are willing to put in the effort to shine some light on concepts, plot points and specific moments the community took as a little vague.
I sincerly hope that Monolithsoft will continue to put in this insane amount of effort for it's stories and it's fans. This is exactly the reason why i love this series and these developers so damn much!
The best part of that is that a huge amount of this was already found out or theorized by people within the fandom, in other words, by trusting their audience's intelligence they didn't spoon fed everything and people managed to find most of it out while also keeping the fandom talking about the game and finding different layers of the story afther the honeymoon phase something which is awfully rare nowadays where games are always very polarizing like "bad story good gameplay" or "too much story gameplay mid" and especially in times where good stories are less and less common, it's also very rare for stories to not have to throughly explain everything to the audience too, i really wish more media did that nowadays.
Of course there are still things that can and may be better explained in the future (that is hinted at his evasive comments towards Origin for example which he not subtly hints at this coming back in future games) and things that could've done better, but XC3 still managed to deliver awesome characters and a story that put its themes and core message above anything else, and again, think at how many games from the last 4 years you see the fandom still discussing about it and theorizing about their story, characters and etc. As much as Xenoblade? Especially in big game series.
@@Zerorenren4761yeah it is crazy that people were right lmao
This is why I jumped ship from being a Zelda fan to a Xenoblade fan (I mean I'm still a Zelda fan, but not for the lore lol). Xenoblade lore is so gratifying when the things we theorize or realize through subtext and subtle character interactions come true.
@@ShallBePurifiedMeanwhile Zelda can't even deliver a satisfactory standalone story anymore because the devs are way too obssessed with "freedom"
@@Zerorenren4761 Yeah, it's very sad honestly, it seems that people love this new path but actually I miss the old games when they were linear but deeper in terms of characters and story.
Tiaon looks like a Digimon Tamer and We've been robbed from Mio's and Eunie's Concept outfits
Eunie kinda looks like a pirate. I like it
I was thinking the same thing, like a cross between Tai and Izzy
@@williamstokes4282or Jou and Taichi
44:36 Rex also also had access the full power of Pneuma in the past and he’s the one who defeated their suicidal thoughts
Also he literally had half of her core keeping him alive for a few months.
I'm so glad that Takahashi basically directly says "why are you asking this I thought this was pretty cut and dry in the game itself" numerous times throughout the interview because clearly it was spelled out well enough for people to understand - a lot of what the interview confirms about Aionios, the people born in it, what the endings symbolize were things I already heard people conclude on their own just mere days after beating the game
I think mio’s old designs hide her chest because their is a design of mio with pneumas core crystal. Maybe that was going to be a plot point or a surprise at some point in the game. (I saw it today on twitter don’t know if it’s an April fools joke)
It's real
So since Luxin mentioned that this video is already a bit outdated, I want to make a note to viewers that Lugalbanda made an addendum to the note about Aionios being akin to a virtual world. Lugalbanda said that they chose that wording because it makes sense with a supercomputer like Origin, but the more literal translation would be an "imaginary world."
Imaginary world? Like, a world of consciousness or dreams? You mean...like an IMAGINARY NUMBER DOMAIN?
We are definitely getting Xenosaga-style lore in Xenoblade's future folks, if it wasn't obvious enough.
As an amateur mathematician, I do take slight issue with Xenosaga's use of the term "imaginary number domain", but that's mainly because I take _serious_ with actual mathematician's use of complex numbers.
To put things simply "imaginary numbers" are _spinny_ numbers. They make things go spinny. They perfectly model 2D rotations around the origin. There is nothing imaginary about going spinny, and by extension there is nothing imaginary about spinny numbers in spite of the name "imaginary numbers."
With the usual (non-spinny) interpretation of spinny numbers, Xenosaga's usage makes more sense.
Luxin mentioned that it could also be compared to a dream world, and if you really think about it, dream worlds kind of _are simulated realities,_ just being simulated by a squishy carbon computer rather than a solid silicon one. (The funny part is that one's consciousness does _not_ by default have admin access, but it is possible to _acquire_ admin access.)
"Nikol, you're at the age I suppose we should have the talk....
Sometimes a man and a sword love each other very much and..."
Fiora: Shulk loves that dang Monado more than me. If only I can stand by his side more in battle
Melia: Ask, and you shall receive!
Fiora:"Time to become the Monado!"
Shulk:"What are you doing, Fiora? Fiora?"
Fiora: *Jumps into Origin early, making it nigh impossible to restore her*
Shulk:"Fiora!"
@@lpfan4491I read that in the fiora scream voice automatically.
@@ryanspencer9602It's not a Xenoblade joke without Shulk screaming at the end
I've been looking forward to video so much once the first translations started coming out. Thank you for delivering!!
"Sorry, I can't answer that right now"
-Takahashi, 2024
In all honesty though, they answered a lot more than I was expecting. I tempered my expectations for this interview, but I'm excited to see what's to come.
43:54 this makes sense because Alpha died and the three of them started emitting motes before they walked into the light
The irony of the 4% in your script is somewhat amusing given that the whole book has actually been scanned, and for some reason it was on a hentai website lmao.
I wont ask which kind soul pumped that out at light speed, but I hope they have a wonderful life ahead of them.
Apparently that’s just a common practice and XC2’s is on there as well lmao
They pumped out all right
Apparently, the artbook also confirmed A gender and she is female it also refers to Alvis and Alpha, which does make sense with the lore.
Also explains why A could form a Trinity with Rex and Shulk because we know from the other Trinitys that you need a female aspect and A fills that role for there one.
28:03 The xeno brainrot has made Luxin forget what year it is.
Truly appreciate your breakdown on the interview, it is much appreciated, thank you and the translators and fans for your all hard work! It makes me glad on how there are so many people who love the Xeno games!
It kind of makes sense that Fiora is there in that form, she at one point wielded a Monado throu proxy.
Also the sword of origin makes a bit more sense, this is Fiora and Penuma interlinking,
Thanks as always, for the vid. I appreciate your lack of brevity, sir.
Thanks for going through all this!
IT IS TIME. THE SHACKLES ARE RELEASING.
Thank you for validating the little points Ive noticed.
The sword was always the 7th member
6:30 Mio’s race was changed from humanoid to humanoid
But with cat ears
You’re great man, keep it up!
re: light motes
I think, going with the computer simulation analogy, it's like memory management in a program. Every soldier is allocated 10 years of "memory" in Origin's systems, and all their life experiences write to that memory block. When they die, the blue motes are their memory block being saved to Origin's hard drive and the RAM being freed up to be re-allocated to their reborn self. When they reach homecoming however, it's essentially a memory leak. Their data still exists, still takes up space in RAM, but the pointer to it is deleted. So that memory is never freed up and can't be re-allocated. Noah and Mio being reborn past their homecomings and past becoming Moebius was the result of an impossibly rare coincidence; new soldiers were allocated with their exact memory addresses that were previously "lost"
Thank you Luxin, i am i in hospital bed and i really need one hour like this!
Hope whatever's afflicting you is resolved!
Jesus, this means by the end of XB3, Noah was wielding Fiora, Pyra, Mythra, and Malos, AT AT ONCE, through Lucky Seven.
DAMN!
And he thorw all of them in to occen. Damn his GF family meeting might be gona wild...
@@anghainguyen9951 "My parents wanted to invite you over for dinner" just found a whole new meaning...
Crazy how Noah’s Sword is just Shulk and Rex’s wives
LETS FUCKING GO!!! BABE WAKE UP NEW LUXIN DOCUMENTARY JUST DROPPED
So here is my theory on Logos. We know that Core's can recreate themselves from the memories of other cores, so what if Mythra recreated Logos through her child? And now Malos is literally Jesus christ the son of the (not so) virgin mary? He becomes the reincarnation of Malos.
Not so Virgin Mary lmao he really showed them all a thing or three
Until Xenoblade 4 this is my headcanon now.
Riku always said the truth. He's just a common variety nopon.
We just didnt understand what being a common variety nopon means #gaslight#gatekeep#noponboss
Great content, as usual.
Openly insulting people who don't get one line after the final boss is good content?
I need to personally shake hands with whoever decided to change Taion’s fit before the final release because my god that concept art doing him dirty
If the Pneuma core was in Lucky Seven's sheath it means Fiora got to know Pyra and Mythra pretty well during all that time.
I bet they'd get along pretty well.
EDIT: also if Dunban is in Shulk's Aionios Monado REX I'm going to cry.
I got off work at a good time. Also Lugalbanda is the fucking goat.
His point about Moebius was so great and i've been saying this for a long time, about how i actually like them a lot and find their concept way more endearing than the previous main villains, of course, i still think that there is way too many of them and that Z deserved more screen-time but still, them being a representation of some sort of goverment that have selfish and vain reasons to cause suffering and despair unto others and with then being a reflex of the dark side from humanity's collective unconscious was always something way more interesting than "JRPG Evil God n° 72783839" that needed a retcon to his own story in the second game to became way better and more unique and Malos which while he is charismatic honestly i never found him that interesting, he was just funny most of the time and i cared way more about Jin.
I also see Z being a villain that does nothing as a critic to how the leaders behind the system in real life wage wars while hiding behind propaganda, soldiers and etc. It's a common say that the ones that cause war, rarely give their own face on the battlefield and most of the time it's all about self interest at the expense of others lives and in that aspect, i find Z and Moebius genius specially afther the confirmation that this was truly their intention.
LUXIN I was watching your video in fullscreen on my SWITCH youtube app and that LOW BATTERY pop up on the top left kept making me SO FRICKING CONFUSED lol! :( I kept checking my battery, then my JOYCONS, thinking it was me, and then I finally remembered you recorded this on a Switch too...!
I kinda wonder why Fiora became the Lucky Seven, was she intending to become the sword Shulk uses to save the world from Moebius and Alpha? Was she actually turning into a weapon Nikol could use (given his inability to use a blade until he made the variable backpack).
Ooh, I like both of these ideas.
Babe wake up, new luxin video just dropped
I never realized that the Fog King was a Guldo, but now I cant unsee it
Happy Easter guys!
44:39 forgetting that part of the pneuma core was in rex keeping hime alive for the large majority of xc2 and that whatever happened to pyra/mythra was sent back and forth with rex, often seen when 1 get hurt the other feels it like rex getting hurt at the end of ch2 pyra had the same injuries and near the end of ch3 when pyra is fighting malos rex feels the wounds
27:02 Malos returning 500 years later in XB2 could still be the resurection reference. The bible does speak of a second coming of Jesus, it is called the Apocalipse. So Malos returning in a following game may not be a good thing
You might've just predicted the plot of Xenoblade 4 lmao
You might have just reiterated the plot of Xenoblade 2
Wasn't XC2's whole plot Malos coming back to end the world?
I just got the book today and loved it! I believe machine translation is mostly correct.
Also you get your hand on the book, make sure to take off the cover for an extra art!
46:00 There's also Melia explicitly referring to "future lives" while the game shows us the people of the city. To me that was the clearest part regarding the City's people.
Okay, you and Luxin and a bunch of other people may have understood, but that's no reason to call everyone who didn't stupid (as Luxin did in this video).
22:23 I still think it’s an actual physical place that happens to be completely controlled by a computer
28:30 My new headcanon I’ve been gunning for since I assumed Pyra and Mythra (who we now know are both Pneuma simultaneously) were part of the Fists of the End is that Pyra and Mythra were the first ouroboros fusion, exactly like how the main party does it in 3.
TL;DR it clears up a lot of stuff to me and explains base game fusion in my opinion of course
This to me clears up how both of them can be Pneuma at once, as well as describe how ouroboros fusion itself works: where they both live separate lives, but can fuse into Pneuma in the blink of an eye to access full trinity processor powers, and their unified emotions and body. This also helps to explain why ouroboros powers could be manifested, but fusion was only unlocked when the true power of the Pneuma core was awakened in the final Alpha fight since it explored that full processor potential. And that ouroboros stones channel the power of the Pneuma core to allow others to tap into this system provided by Klaus, which Nia (and presumably Tora) studied and brought to life.
Then again, I haven’t thought too hard about this and have never played Gears or Saga for more tie-ins, but just something cool I thought of a while back so if there’s any discrepancies, please let me know below.
Ouroboros fusions are always between Agnian and Kevesi. Pyra and Mythra are from the same side so that's not possible. Not only that but in this case it would be the opposite, Pneuma is the original form, Mythra is an incomplete form born out of Addam, and Pyra a different personality that Mythra herself made, so they are technically both half-people, so their fusion just makes 1 whole.
@@youtubewanderer3347 On the point of Agnian and Kevesi, I think those rules wouldn't make sense for the Trinity Core. Agnians and Kevesi are people who formed from the original world being split however the Trinity Core were not made in either of those worlds. They predate Agnes and Keves as well as XC1 and XC2. I don't know if that excludes them from the fusion, but I do not believe they would be tied to the concept of needing to be from different worlds like the other characters. I do agree it would be weird to consider Pneuma as a fusion rather than their true body.
@@anthonynguyen1289 I think that the fusion between worlds is what allows Ouroboros to work, so a being that predates them and is not related shouldn't have access to this type of fusion. We know that the black fog and Ouroboros are related (when the fusion last too long, black fog forms, and eventually annihilation event), which leads me to believe that the power of the Ouroboros comes from the same source, the interaction between worlds, and a being that belongs solely to one of them or neither, wouldn't be able to use the power.
This was such a crazy thing to drop
i no it isnt exactly like this but i find it so funny that Z is so powerful because he just did /gamemode creative
Bouta feast on some Xenoblade content
Early Mio and Eunie look so dang good. I really like those outfits
"Malos is Jesus 2" is such a funny phrase
I like to imagine that, during the battle with Z, Noah is in some way channeling the whole of the Trinity Processor. Through both himself and N, there's Pneuma and Logos, but since the sword is also in tune with Origin itself, and therefore Aionios, I see that as Noah channeling the power of Ontos as well, since A is one of the three working to support the world. Alongside them, he's channeling the wills of three separate wielders of the Trinity Processor in Shulk, Rex, and Fiora.
I also like the idea that Noah throwing Lucky Seven into the ocean might be a slight nod to Excalibur being returned to the Lady of the Lake.
The art book is also now available digitally, which is pretty hype. Apparently there's hope for an official translated release, but not counting on it
It makes sense that only children could be made into soldiers - you can simulate chaotic systems (like ageing) forward but not backwards
This interview taught me that while everyone else was trying to repair the two worlds, the previous party members were just out playing prop hunt
I'm glad this artbook came out. Everything except the Fiora thing was right there in the game's subtext (even this was foreshadowed in FR in that scene "important people here too", right). I'm glad even Takahashi says a few times "yeah, this was in the game lol".
I wanna add that you don't even need to have played the other Xeno games, I haven't but I understood or considered everything in this first rough translation.
I wish taion kept his hair form his early design. Its so over the top and I love it. I hope we get a character with hair like that in a future game.
Cant wait for the Future Connected DLC for Xenoblade 2 in a decade. Its a pipe dream, it would just be kinda neat to actually see how Alrest percieves whats happening (and a good look at what the world looks like after civilization rebuilds and whatnot)
What even goes on in the mind of Takahashi?
Probably:
How tf can I get the Xenosaga and Xenogears copyright back WITHOUT pissing Square and Bandai Namco off...
@@mimesforcrimes8393Bandai is probably fine square is the main issue
@@danielfazylov6960 Thing is Square has done jackshit with Xenogears, so it's possible that they'll just hand it over to him
@@mimesforcrimes8393 Nah, it is just as good of a crossover-piece for them as Saga is for Bandai, so I cannot imagine them just handing it over, even if they don't want to do mainline-stuff. Besides, they have been collecting passive income from it for years through the PS3 storefront. That is now invalid, but they can easily rerelease it again somewhen in the next few years.
When I saw that blue light at the end of Future Redeemed. It was a whirlpool of emotions I wasn't expecting.
You can't make me remember hope 18 years after the ending of Xenosaga 3 just to leave me hanging on *that*, Takahashi.
An hour well spent
33:28 pneuma did have the ability to make her and rex move qt jin true form's speed which wqs almost the speed of like and what does noah get in final lucky seven after getting N, tachyon slash, tachyons are theoretical particals faster that light so if 1 of the trinity cores can take you near light speed 2 most definitely will get you there or faster
Hey luxin, in Christian mythology Jesus supposedly returns twice after death. Once after the crucifixion, and one that hasn’t happened yet, in revelation. Yknow, when jesus returns with his army from heaven and fights demonic kraken satan and his evil army. It’s super normal, it’s all above board.
Glad to hear malos will be returning at some point lol
I'm adding this comment because it seems most people misunderstand the whole deal with Pneuma's core.
Pneuma's core crystal isn't physically anywhere in Aionios. Look at the scene again: the core only appears in that moment, it wasn't there all along. And it is transparent, because it's not the actual, physical core, but just a manifestation of Pneuma's power.
Consider also that A says that what make Matthew's gauntlets special is that they contain Origin metal, not a core crystal. And Riku explained that Origin metal can contain the souls and memories of the people just like Origin, and that Lucky Seven contains the soul of someone important for Melia.
So, just like Lucky Seven contains Fiora's soul, the Origin metal in Matthew's gauntlet contains both Mythra's and Pyra's, and that is why Pneuma's power can manifest.
Mythra and Pyra themselves, just like Fiora and everyone else, are among the people assimilated by Origin, which was managed by Ontos alone. But since Origin metal works as it does, they manifested in Aionios like that.
I sometimes forget that lots of people lack media literacy, it explains why sometimes when I hear people talk about certain things in the game I can't help but think, "but that's the point, you just seem to have missed that its the point"
tbf just cuz it's the point doesnt necessarily means it's good. Same with something making sense (e.g. XC2 ending for some). It just boils down to preference usually and seems like many do not like the emphasis on other aspects or at least got whiplash from it when playing thru. Which I dont blame them for expecting but you obviously shouldn't expect every game to follow similar structure. 1 and 2 was like that because they specifically went back to it after X and since they are parallel games.
@@baked7423 You're right that it being the point doesn't make something good in terms of storytelling. What I was more thinking of is things like that N and Noah are fundamentally the same but people will go thinking that Noah isn't like N simply because Noah is the "Good Guy"
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This. I personally didn't like xenoblade 2 or 3 despite understanding what they were trying to say. Hell, I even looked at content like Luxin's here to see what I was missing from those games. I completely get what they were going for... but I just personally enjoy other depictions of the themes and messages *far* better in other media. On a personal level... the characters bored me and I don't know why.
Still not gonna hate on anyone who does like them, though. I recognize that there are likable things in XB 2 and 3. I just personally didn't enjoy the likable things more than the missteps the games took.
Enjoying this. Question though, any thoughts on similarities between the Origin system and the Planet Mira? (Sorry if you bring this up later, I'm less than halfway through and my ADHD can really mess me up)
"Fiora's profile pic is a sword and Shulk's profile pic is a selfie" is the best metaphor I've heard yet
LET'S GOOOO
Xenobalde Saga 4 is going to be HYPE!!!!
not that wasn't a really dumb typo, part of me thinks that at least NOA is going to ditch the Chronicles subtitle in favor for Saga, because to our current knowledge, its going to pick up from blade 3 and saga 3.
A part of me would love to see a Wilhelm summoning a Jin type blade and Chaos summoning a Malos blade in a sequel.
43:51
You either need to be an Trinity Processor or a will able to rival the world
I was thinking that the Monado REX that's in Melia's room was Shulk's new Avatar after future redeemed, or where he originally was before "incarnating" to fight Alpha
Luxin: "Early concept art shows Mio before she was a Gormotti, even without a core crystal!"
Also Luxin: "Early Dirk looks different, obviously not Mythra's kid"
COPIUM ALERT
Memes aside this artbook is sick. Tons of cool early designs
Yeah like you can use concept art like that to disprove things in the final product. It's even funnier when there's concept art with Mio with the Aegis core 😂
29:20 i like to think of it as the core is split but like in a way that bread for sandwiches are sliced one has the front half of the core while the other had the back half as the core is a 3d shape but cannot tell from the surface alone, or like how rose(and therefore steven) gem is just pink diamond's gem from a different perspective, or like how a rectangular prism and cube can look the same from 1 angle but different from another
Ex
🌕 the pneuma core
🌗 pyra facing left
🌓 mythra facing right
Both will look the same but are halfs of a whole
29:19 except the Zohar vanished at the end of 2
But where did it vanish to? Given that we now know that the events of _both_ 1 and 2 took place in pocket dimensions, it's entirely possible that the Zohar returned from Alrest to the main reality, and that once the worlds merge properly, Pyra and Mythra will get all of their Conduit-related powers back.
10:00 Taion got that Spike from Cowboy Bebop drip look going on
31:00 Dromach is the Cloudkeep
He doesn't even try to hide that its him, his face is right there on the building, but also I think we see a number of characters from the previous games and don't realize it because they are towering war machines, the Ferronis. Collony Mu is Electra, colony Iota is somehow Obrona wrapped in her wings and Lambda is obviously Turters.
@@williamstokes4282 Turters being Lambda is the funniest thing. Zeke would be very disapointed in Sena 😂
Actually, would Malos reappearing be the second coming or the resurrection????
Probably the second coming
Wait. So are you saying the final bossfight of XC2 was a fucking crucifixion !?
25:22 I didn’t realize Xenoblade and Persona had so much in common
My headcanon is:
Reyn is the Ether Furnace in Future Redeemed. /s
@44:36 i think the Rex explination can be due to blade-driver connections being described as being "one in body and soul" stuff. Or, well, thats my interpretation anyways
Fiora kicking ass AS USUAL
I do think that the Lucky Seven thing is getting a bit misinterpreted en masse. Like, Fiora being in the sword via Origin tracks with what Riku already said in FR. If it were that she had the choice to reside in whichever piece of Origin metal and chose L7, that makes sense, but I just cannot imagine her willfully becoming an inanimate object. Arguably her strongest trait as a character is her utter refusal to remain inactive, between the attack on Colony 9, all the way through Mechonis, and putting her life on the line all the way to the fight with Dickson. Obviously, her soul is still inside the sword either way, but saying that she IS the sword strikes me as wrong. Especially since her literal husband manifested in the flesh.
I actually think it's because her will is so strong that she makes a good candidate to be Lucky 7. She's not being inactive. She's actively being the one thing the party needs. Of all the characters from XC1 or 2 she has the same youthful spirit the main party embodies. She wants to be useful and not a burden so becoming a monado-like sword is actually very wise on her part. Which isn't out of character for her family at all.
@@danielstuckwisch9343 That's not a bad way of looking at it, I kinda just balk at the idea of her *literally* being the sword for the reasons I mentioned. Obviously that part of her still factors, being that she is in there to begin with, but it bugs me when it's being taken as her deciding to become it. I think if she had any particular choice in how she manifested, she would have done so in the flesh, like Shulk, at least if she were able. Like I said, it makes sense if she were only able to choose which bit of Origin metal she could reside in, I just don't see her immediately deciding "sword".
I am definitely thinking too hard about this, to be perfectly honest.
@JohnSmith-lh3ht yeah, it's unclear how much control people have over how they manifest in Aionios. It could also be that she didn't avatar into the world like Shulk did and instead that's the physical part of Origin that her soul was stored in when Origin fired. Like if Lucky 7 was reintegration into Origin could she manifest an avatar like Shulk did?
@@JohnSmith-lh3htit’s not literally.
read it again. takahashi says its her thoughts. she isn’t a sword.
@@JEANS__ I know. I'm saying I dont like people misinterpreting it thusly.