Almost Revolutionary: Patrick Ferguson's Breechloading Rifle

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • The Ferguson rifle has been seen by some as an extraordinary design that could have changed the course of history and by others as a mechanical complexity that never would have worked in the real world conditions that the British infantry would have found themselves in. When it comes to either perspective, we cannot deny that the utility of the Ferguson as a fighting weapon was not something to ignore, most likely being the first breechloading rifle to see combat, as standard issue to a unit in military history. The important point about this is that breechloading muskets and rifles had been around for almost as long as the manufacture of arms had been firmly established in Europe. But their practicality was essentially confined to hunting and their military use was almost nonexistent, especially in active combat. Ferguson certainly took his design from an earlier French designer called Isaac de la Chaumette, so he cannot be credited indegeniously coming up with it. But what he did do was perfect it, and he had the vision and the drive to convince elements within the British Army to allow him to prove the rifle in battle.
    Since the 1770s, there has been some controversy about the rifles that currently exist. Much of this focuses on the types of Ferguson's out there. For example, the rifles that made history are the Ordnance contract rifles, of which there are only 100 that were ever made. There were commercial ones that Ferguson sold to civilians in addition to Officer's ones that were variants of the commercial ones that he armed his officers with. But when it comes to the significance in military history, the Ordnance rifles are the most coveted ones. Of these there are only two known ones that survived. One is at Morristown National Historic Site in Morristown, New Jersey. The other is at the Nunnemacker Collection in Wisconsin.
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Komentáře • 82

  • @johnparrish9215
    @johnparrish9215 Před 5 lety +5

    The fact that you could load this rifle from the Prone position makes it of great value. I find it amazing that no one ever went back to this design.

  • @AP2020_Outdoors
    @AP2020_Outdoors Před 6 lety +13

    Amazing in that it took awhile before someone realized that a firearm could be loaded from the other end! Containing the pressures while still being able to easily open the breech was no doubt the biggest technological advancement! Great video, thank you.

    • @matthewmoss1589
      @matthewmoss1589 Před 6 lety +1

      It was a matter of reliability, technology and cost. Some of the earliest cannon were actually breech loaders with plug breeches (not a method you can use in a firearm though).

    • @wardropcr
      @wardropcr Před 6 lety +4

      iirc, people have been trying to make firearms load from that end since the 1400s.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 6 lety

      We have two breechloading firearms owned by Henry VIII in the UK Royal Armouries collection. They are a rich man's target weapon. Breechloading just wasn't that essential until it became cost effective for issue en masse.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 6 lety

      Matthew Moss Chamber pieces? Yes, not effective for small arms. However there are a number of C16th breechloading shoulder arms out there using Snider-style breeches.

    • @ThatBethesdaGuy
      @ThatBethesdaGuy Před 6 lety

      AP2020 Outdoors Adventures Most only rich people had these.

  • @livinginswva1965
    @livinginswva1965 Před 6 lety +10

    Louis L'Amour wrote a book where this rifle played a large role....titled "The Ferguson Rifle"

    • @banditone00
      @banditone00 Před 6 lety +1

      livinginswva1965 I was going to say, I’ve had a curiosity about these since reading about it in middle school.

  • @LaGuardiaSuiza
    @LaGuardiaSuiza Před 6 lety +4

    This is definitely one of my favorite videos by TFB. The music paired well with the video, but I wish the music was a little less loud so that I could hear the expert's voice. Good video overall.

  • @thelaughinghyenas7962
    @thelaughinghyenas7962 Před 6 lety +2

    One of the best TFB TV videos I have seen!

  • @ni200v
    @ni200v Před 6 lety +4

    Man, you consistently have the best videos on this channel! At this point, I'm basically just hanging around this channel because of your vids!

  • @luftwaffle7780
    @luftwaffle7780 Před 6 lety +21

    Cool video but the music is totally unnecessary. You're talking, that should be all we need to hear.

    • @user-uy1rg8td1v
      @user-uy1rg8td1v Před 3 lety +1

      Too many educational channels have unnecessary background music. To content creators: People want to get information/hear you talk. Not to hear generic background music.

  • @ADRay1999
    @ADRay1999 Před 6 lety +14

    Just think Ferguson could have killed Washington with the rifle yet, he felt that it was ungentlemanly to kill one officer from another army so he spared Washington. One of those what if stories

    • @erickwon8528
      @erickwon8528 Před 6 lety +5

      just like how a british soldier could have killed hitler in WW1, but he didnt.

    • @superkjell
      @superkjell Před 6 lety +4

      The British had a detailed plan to assassinate Hitler in 1944, but decided against it, as his replacement could actually have been competent. Operation Foxley

    • @boofingdragon
      @boofingdragon Před 6 lety +1

      Then he messed with my people in East TN, sending letters threatening fire and sword upon their lands, and my ancestors marched over the mountains to his encampment at Kings Mountain and put him down. The Overmountain Men turned the tide of the war.

  • @jerryjohnsonii4181
    @jerryjohnsonii4181 Před 6 lety

    Very cool Rifle, and i learned So much about breechloading Rifles. I really enjoyed this episode and thanks for the knowledge.

  • @afinoxi
    @afinoxi Před 6 lety +1

    That's such a beautiful plane , one of the things that make me wanna wish to become a pilot.

  • @victrixsvs
    @victrixsvs Před 6 lety +28

    the music is to loud

  • @heyzoos-cgr9369
    @heyzoos-cgr9369 Před 6 lety +2

    I make the flints for these rifles in my home country, the UK if anyone needs any?
    (I make/ knap these in my spare time as a hobby)
    Very competitive prices and made from the finest Brandon, UK flint.
    Top video as usual Miles :)

  • @politicallyunreliable4985

    Good piece of history. Respect to the innovation.

  • @SpruceReduce8854
    @SpruceReduce8854 Před 6 lety +6

    So the proper procedure back then in battle was to load a loose lead ball, and then a paper cartridge with just powder, as shown? Was there a specific way to make this cartridge (it looks different from the brown bess cartridge, not to mention the absence of the ball)? Anyways, I think this is the best in depth video on this rifle ever, even better than the old Forgotten Weapons video on it!

    • @tfbtv
      @tfbtv  Před 6 lety +4

      Wowowowowo there, that last sentence Ian might disagree...
      -Miles

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 Před 6 lety

      This was a trials weapon, no set way to load it. However this method makes the most sense depending upon how you size your ball. You certainly don't want to be using loose powder that will get into the screw thread.

  • @yoopdef3969
    @yoopdef3969 Před 6 lety +7

    Good video but the music is too loud.

  • @clockguy2
    @clockguy2 Před 4 lety +1

    The first Mass produced item using interchangeable parts did not come about until 1806, with the Connecticut clock industry by Eli Terry and his 4,000 wooden clocks produced under the Porter Contract.
    The Battle of Kings Mountain was fought in upstate South Carolina...not Georgia. Both Ferguson and his mistress were killed. Ferguson was mortally wounded while on horseback. He fell from his horse, but his foot got caught in the stirrups. His horse dragged him down the hill and into the American side where his body was stripped, urinated on, and thrown in a shallow grave. This is considered by many historians as the turning point in the Revolutionary War where the Americans were starting to get the upper hand. More Revolutionary battles were fought in South Carolina than any other State.

  • @OldSkoolWax
    @OldSkoolWax Před 5 lety

    Seriously, though. How beautiful is that rifle?

  • @sirdovermeyer
    @sirdovermeyer Před 6 lety

    Fantastic video

  • @o2wow
    @o2wow Před 6 lety

    The Bronco is one of my favorites. They could hold four fully equipped para-troops, go into a vertical climb and drop them out the back hatch. I watch a demo of this operation at El Toro marine air station in the early eighties.

    • @micfail2
      @micfail2 Před 4 lety +1

      Lol it sounds like that would be a complete nightmare for the pilot and the paratroops

  • @ChrisLoew
    @ChrisLoew Před 6 lety

    Meow this is a fascinating video!

  • @tylerhorning7490
    @tylerhorning7490 Před 4 lety +1

    I would highly recommend The Ferguson Rifle by Louis L'Amour

  • @briarus1000
    @briarus1000 Před 6 lety

    beautiful rifle. cool story

  • @nejiniisan1265
    @nejiniisan1265 Před 5 lety +1

    How to prevent the ball rolling over the barrel? Is it a tight fit?

  • @andrewdixon3960
    @andrewdixon3960 Před 6 lety

    I have fired a reproduction of the Ferguson Rifle. They are very interesting to fire and in the right hands very fast compared to other flintlocks.

  • @festol1
    @festol1 Před 6 lety

    OV-10 Broncos were an amazing aircraft. Though it could carry a consider amount of payload (it could includes some paratroopers too) its primary role was to act air control or observation. It could fly low and slow for a long time, with its bubble shaped canopi that eneable great field of view.

  • @boofingdragon
    @boofingdragon Před 6 lety +1

    He died in SC not Georgia. Ferguson is known well around my hometown in Elizabethton TN, after sending a letter threatening to come to the settlements in East TN and Western NC and put them to fire and sword. The "Overmountain men" responded to his letter by marching over the mountains to his encampment at Kings Mountain and decimating his army of Tories and shooting him from his horse, followed by a burial in a shallow grave. Word is he didn't have his fancy new rifle with him.

  • @Ironsharpensiron89
    @Ironsharpensiron89 Před 6 lety

    That’s awesome, thanks man. Well done video

  • @Jackthesmilingblack
    @Jackthesmilingblack Před 6 lety

    The real breakthrough came with the invention of a brass cartridge case that didn't expand on firing, thus could be easily extracted.

  • @RandR_farms
    @RandR_farms Před 6 lety +5

    Kings Mountain is in South Carolina not Georgia.

  • @TheStapleGunKid
    @TheStapleGunKid Před 5 lety

    Man it sure is a good thing this never became the standard issue rifle for the red coats. They would have won the revolutionary war easily if that was the case.

  • @2000rayc
    @2000rayc Před 6 lety +6

    tkae off the music

  • @teddygrizz
    @teddygrizz Před 6 lety +2

    you don't even need music

  • @michaelsanders4550
    @michaelsanders4550 Před 15 dny

    I couldn't help but notice that you people don't even know where Kings Mountain is. It is not in Georgia bu t on the border between Nort h and South Carolina. The mountain itself is actually in South Carolina.

  • @stevemcentyre1570
    @stevemcentyre1570 Před 6 lety +1

    Kings Mountain is nowhere near Georgia. It is on the NC / SC border.

  • @erickwon8528
    @erickwon8528 Před 6 lety +1

    Dang oldest Classic known to gun enthusiasts basically.

  • @justinbailey5590
    @justinbailey5590 Před 4 lety

    How could we get in contact with the gentleman to get him to make a rifle

  • @PcGamerify
    @PcGamerify Před 6 lety +1

    The music is too loud.

  • @jonathanferguson1211
    @jonathanferguson1211 Před 6 lety +1

    Amazing reproduction.

  • @robertthomas3777
    @robertthomas3777 Před dnem

    That’s a beautiful bit of labour intensive craftsmanship.
    Why the huge calibre? A smaller calibre would have a lighter weight shot, use less powder, likely travel further and faster with more accuracy. The troops could’ve carried more rounds. Would love to know.
    Many thanks.
    🦘🇦🇺👍

  • @historybuff5739
    @historybuff5739 Před rokem

    The background music makes it hard to understand what is being said.

  • @larryelliott8030
    @larryelliott8030 Před 6 lety +2

    Stop the music. Would have been a much better video if I could have heard every word.

  • @BloodyCrow__
    @BloodyCrow__ Před 4 lety

    if you went back in time and gave them the breech design of the snider-enfield wonder if they would have been adopted.

    • @user-uy1rg8td1v
      @user-uy1rg8td1v Před 3 lety

      Or the Lindner or Kammerlader rifle designs. Much better and simpler breechloading designs.

  • @hughmorris2008
    @hughmorris2008 Před 3 lety

    I think I hear someone talking but not sure, the music's too loud

  • @andyrihn1
    @andyrihn1 Před 6 lety

    There’s video out there of the OV-10 Broncos helping out with the wildfires in California

  • @BloodyCrow__
    @BloodyCrow__ Před 4 lety

    The snider enfield was adopted in 1866 90 years after this gun? thats like if the m16 was adopted in 1874.

  • @glockerbob
    @glockerbob Před 6 lety +1

    1700s AR.

  • @Bravo21
    @Bravo21 Před 6 lety +1

    sorry, I tried but the music makes this unwatchable ...

  • @The-Fluffy-Birdcat
    @The-Fluffy-Birdcat Před 5 lety +1

    You should redo the video without the shitty music making it hard to hear people talk.

  • @Rake3577
    @Rake3577 Před 6 lety +3

    -That's a fine looking rifle, how'd you come by it ?
    -Pried it from the cold, dead hands of an indian loving fool

  • @munched55
    @munched55 Před 6 lety +1

    Monotonous music EXTREMELY annoying. Knock that crap off.

  • @rickschuman2926
    @rickschuman2926 Před 3 lety

    P 38? Nope.

  • @bigsmoke7759
    @bigsmoke7759 Před 6 lety

    1:22 czcams.com/video/elEA8awkpM8/video.html
    You do not put the ball in your mouth and spit it down the barrel

    • @tfbtv
      @tfbtv  Před 6 lety

      Whoever said you spat it down the barrel? You spat it into the open breech while in the prime position so you didn’t have to reach for your cartridge pouch.
      -Miles

    • @bigsmoke7759
      @bigsmoke7759 Před 6 lety

      TFB TV The video explains why you don’t spit the ball anywhere

  • @centermass4552
    @centermass4552 Před 6 lety +2

    I think Miles is being culturally insensitive because he’s not saying Ferguson with a proper Scottish accent. You do accents for everywhere else. Do other people’s and countries make you uncomfortable, Miles? And the music is too loud.

    • @tfbtv
      @tfbtv  Před 6 lety

      Send me a recording of how to say it properly.
      -Miles

    • @centermass4552
      @centermass4552 Před 6 lety

      czcams.com/video/8WKalCVMHOc/video.htmlm22s Does the mere existance of foreign peoples and cultures disturb you as well? Show some respect for other cultures. Jeez.

  • @MexicanBoi164
    @MexicanBoi164 Před 6 lety

    smoke machine thats all i see