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    Watch the BBC first on iPlayer 👉 bbc.in/iPlayer-Home Sue Perkins starts her journey in Tokyo, Japan's glittering capital city and home to 36 million people. She finds a nation caught between the demands of a hi-tech future and the pull of a traditional past, where people work long hours but struggle to find time for love and relationships. Birth rates are falling and the population is shrinking. What does the future hold for this resilient and innovative country?
    Outside Tokyo, in the shadow of Mount Fuji, Sue takes part in Hell Camp, Japan's toughest business school. Here she sees how Japan’s strict corporate culture has created some of the world's most successful companies, with its traditional values of hard work and discipline.
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  • @anothersettlementneedsyour9628

    Karen: ,,I want to speak with the manager ASAP!”
    Manager: ,,AUOIUOIUOOOOOO!!!!!”

  • @user-ki5lj1dh5z
    @user-ki5lj1dh5z Před 4 lety +275

    A lot of non-Japanese people: This is crazy!
    Me Japanese: This is crazy!

  • @4dgreentea
    @4dgreentea Před 4 lety +475

    I’m Japanese and I just want to say, obviously not every workplace training is like this. This is just the extreme.

    • @DonEkz21
      @DonEkz21 Před 4 lety +72

      That's bbc for you lol, they make it seem like this it's the norm in Japan.

    • @sextant858
      @sextant858 Před 4 lety +36

      It is almost fake news.
      So crazy.

    • @DonEkz21
      @DonEkz21 Před 4 lety +4

      @Mike Nunyabizness that's not true for decades very few companies in Japan adopted this practice. Their work ethic was just strict period.

    • @godsama959
      @godsama959 Před 4 lety +3

      @Mike Nunyabizness I agree, more than a few Japanese client I've had, describe boot camps like this.

    • @user-gy5qi6kt7x
      @user-gy5qi6kt7x Před 4 lety

      This is just SICK!!!

  • @rezkybella9068
    @rezkybella9068 Před 4 lety +104

    Finally i know how to greet your grandma : *loudly screams* KONICHIWA!

  • @sabnstuffgd8232
    @sabnstuffgd8232 Před 4 lety +56

    4:40
    Sue: “Someone really really doesn’t like the main course.”
    Japanese man: screams “Thank you for this meal!”

    • @user-hx1jw4br7s
      @user-hx1jw4br7s Před 2 lety +1

      And the guy beside him was like: " yea, yea totally agree "

  • @ab76254
    @ab76254 Před 3 lety +45

    This is the epitome of "form over function"
    where you try to look as much as a "businessperson" but learn no practical skills about managing a team to most efficiently achieve objectives

  • @abuhuraira3685
    @abuhuraira3685 Před 4 lety +129

    The most unhappy customers are your greatest source of learning
    BILL GATES

    • @rerikm
      @rerikm Před 4 lety +2

      ohh karen, he did not say that

    • @abuhuraira3685
      @abuhuraira3685 Před 4 lety +1

      @@rerikm check Google

    • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
      @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Před 4 lety +1

      He never learned.

    • @TheArcher101
      @TheArcher101 Před 3 lety +1

      Or they're just idiots

    • @isoldag.n4442
      @isoldag.n4442 Před 3 lety +1

      actually it was Walt Disney who first said that,he also added that if you want succed you must learn everyone: costumers,all the employers,security guards,etc.,wich was idealized by Minamoto Musashi: wisdow comes from any source,you must be prepared to take the lesson ( hear everyone,no matter who is)

  • @eekimsantos
    @eekimsantos Před 3 lety +12

    Oh my gosh as an introvert who hates standing out, this training will be the death of me LOL

  • @SekhmetSecretWeapon
    @SekhmetSecretWeapon Před 4 lety +52

    I feel so bad for the ones who 'failed' the course....this is too sad.... :((

    • @dsirulz1
      @dsirulz1 Před 3 lety +7

      right like im sure they are all overqualified if they were to apply to literally any job say in another country but to the japanese, nah fam, NOT GOOD ENOUGH lol.

    • @SekhmetSecretWeapon
      @SekhmetSecretWeapon Před 3 lety +5

      @@dsirulz1 this must be why so much suicide there, sad... they're good people...

    • @crazy948
      @crazy948 Před 3 lety

      i can imagine at least one of those who failed is already fathoms below.

    • @SekhmetSecretWeapon
      @SekhmetSecretWeapon Před 3 lety +2

      @@crazy948 they do have a high suicide rate there, it's sad... no one's perfect...

    • @mathforlife1805
      @mathforlife1805 Před rokem

      That's life....

  • @rodaxel7165
    @rodaxel7165 Před 4 lety +48

    I thought this happens only in anime. My hears would bleed if this happens in my office

    • @sextant858
      @sextant858 Před 4 lety +5

      You're right.
      It is almost anime.
      They are not usual almost cult group.
      I've never heard and seen like this.

    • @illona2537
      @illona2537 Před 3 lety

      What anime were you watching? I've never seen this before

  • @ayumiharapeco6366
    @ayumiharapeco6366 Před 4 lety +20

    Oh no, I used to live right next to this place! It keep woke me up around 5am with this strange shout . I went to ask if it's possible to start bit later but owner just said " I started this here 30 years ago so why don't you try to understand? " It was nightmare.

  • @whyjapanesepeople4057
    @whyjapanesepeople4057 Před 4 lety +11

    Imperial japan: BANZAI!!!!
    Modern japan: SENPAI!!!!!

  • @stupidkitty84
    @stupidkitty84 Před 4 lety +33

    @2:36
    Reporter: *screams* "Konichiwa!
    Literally Anybody: 👀✌👣

  • @ItsMeRhaine
    @ItsMeRhaine Před 4 lety +43

    If my manager ever screams like that to me in the workplace imma have to resign right there dueces

    • @m5a1stuart83
      @m5a1stuart83 Před 3 lety +3

      Well my Korean GM always yell at me everyday like that... But once you get used to it. No one can oppress or intimidate you.

    • @alventuradelacruz522
      @alventuradelacruz522 Před 3 lety +1

      I would slap him/her

    • @domtom9594
      @domtom9594 Před rokem

      Lol American cry baby.

  • @manantank
    @manantank Před 3 lety +4

    Not gonna lie, this sounds fun - gets people out of their shell

  • @pedalboy
    @pedalboy Před 4 lety +102

    It sounds like they're training for war.

    • @y.y.4673
      @y.y.4673 Před 4 lety +11

      Actually, this kind of brain washing is from the Imperial Japanese Army.
      In the age of WW2, every child was forced to do like that in elementary school.

    • @maxabeles
      @maxabeles Před 3 lety +1

      @Honesty Maze It's not possible to erase thousands of years tradition with "the new generation."

    • @vivoslibertos
      @vivoslibertos Před 3 lety +1

      TENNOHEIKA BANZAAAAIIII!!!!!!!

    • @missplainjane3905
      @missplainjane3905 Před 3 lety

      @@maxabeles
      I feel Japan is also changing from each new era, though tradition remains strongly.

    • @user-mp7wj3rq5d
      @user-mp7wj3rq5d Před 2 měsíci

      Ww2 flashbacks

  • @Soralella71
    @Soralella71 Před 4 lety +61

    I lived in Japan and let me tell you, the Japanese really are repressed and depressed.

  • @italianoDOCG
    @italianoDOCG Před 3 lety +5

    If my boss screams at me like that I’m like “sorry I didn’t hear you, can you repeat that”

  • @LionMemento
    @LionMemento Před 3 měsíci +1

    There is also one for kids in the same camp i went to it when i was about 10 it was a great experience and i gained a lot of discipline

  • @lagoondiver
    @lagoondiver Před 4 lety +5

    Reminds me of that scene in Blackadder season 3, when Stephen Fry plays the Duke of Wellington... "There's only one way to win a campaign: SHOUT, SHOUT AND SHOUT AGAIN!" 😄

  • @masterdrewanthony
    @masterdrewanthony Před 4 lety +31

    If Japan wasn't notorious for having a high suicide rate, I might not be as bothered by the crying at the end of the training. Unfortunately, it is, and I am

    • @PeaceDweller
      @PeaceDweller Před 3 lety +1

      It is quite sad. But at the same time that work ethic & culture made them the most prosperous & efficient nation in Asia for many many decades. Infact only Germany and one of the Scandinavian countries could match them in terms of efficiency & productivity. It's a relatively small country in size of 128 million people and yet it is run like a country with 4 million. Even garbage workers there treat their job like the most prestigious job on the planet.

    • @kyokokirigiri100
      @kyokokirigiri100 Před 2 lety +1

      It's not as high as you think and it's lower than americas

  • @arthurdowney2846
    @arthurdowney2846 Před 4 lety +9

    "The Japanese are just like everyone else, only more so."
    Watch Dan Carlin's Supenova In The East for a great look into the roots of the cultural quirks that make a place like this business camp possible.

    • @andipandi5641
      @andipandi5641 Před 4 lety +2

      but most like the english - only more so:
      we have public schools - they have this place.. the sun has not long ago given up dressing its models as sexualised school girls and the daily mail has only recently given up presenting us with sexualised images of school girls themselves - japan has only recently made child-pornography illegal.. police in this country never charged jimmy savile with anything and have yet to interview any catholic bishop or prince andrew under caution - while police in japan actively protect businesses sexually exploiting very young women.. in this country fox hunters continue to hunt sweet little dogs - while many japanese continue to kill dolphins and whales..

  • @halukaw719
    @halukaw719 Před 4 lety +2

    Love Sue Perkins💕🤣

  • @QUESCANADA
    @QUESCANADA Před 3 lety +2

    Well, I came here to learn but ended up lmao @ 2:34 🤣😂🤣😂😭😝

  • @user-ou9ln4vl2n
    @user-ou9ln4vl2n Před 3 lety +9

    I grew up in Japan and I am working in Japanese company now. in my life I changed the company 4 times but I don't think this video is for real.
    for foreigners I tell you that this is not real Japan. this is overdraw. even though as a Japanese myself , its really funny.

  • @therandomdot2563
    @therandomdot2563 Před 4 lety +13

    Sun Tzu and Musashi must be rolling in their graves at this.

    • @OzzTonWentToSpace
      @OzzTonWentToSpace Před 4 lety +7

      Sun Tzu was Chinese + the discipline and training needed for samurai wasn’t too dissimilar. I get your point though for this day and age this is cringe.

    • @therandomdot2563
      @therandomdot2563 Před 4 lety +11

      @@OzzTonWentToSpace I was thinking more about how Musashi's Book of Five Rings and Sun Tzu's Art of War are standard reads in Asian business. But, Musashi teaches to be simple and effective. This training program is neither. Sun Tzu teaches to win war by out-maneuvering enemies and treating soldiers like equals. This program is just breaking these folks down, treating them like garbage, and building them back up into uncreative robots. The reason samurai culture took over in Japan was because the warriors had too much time on their hands, and thus did like everyone else: made an "art form" out of what they did. Basically, taking whatever they did and dialing it up to 11. But, in doing so, they went overboard. Musashi's work pointed that out, saying that Japanese Samurai culture was so full of itself that it lost sight of what was important. It was bogged down in pomp & circumstance and ritual. This business course seems to be embracing that. It's also embracing the fly-by-night "boot camp" syndrome that's taken over all aspects of work these days. Folks think they can just sign up for some rigorous program that quickly whips them into shape and then they'll get some cert that says they can do something. But, boot camp programs have flooded the market and this looks like another BS boot camp program. If they want to get certified as peons that can do nothing but follow orders, then this is the program for them. But, peons that follow orders are not business leaders, are not creative types that shake up industries, etc. It's just sad seeing aspects of Japan fall back to BS like this. But, many countries have similar BS going on. "Take a week long training program to become a Data Scientist!" Just lots of BS programs popping up these days, and desperate people going into them hoping it will move them ahead.

  • @dodoapexch1389
    @dodoapexch1389 Před 4 lety +11

    I'm Japanese.
    But, it is first time to see this kind of comany!lol

    • @dodoapexch1389
      @dodoapexch1389 Před 4 lety +2

      @Linh Nguyen I'm not weeb!lol
      I'm Japanese!
      俺、純然たる日本人やでw

    • @beaverpoo8086
      @beaverpoo8086 Před 4 lety

      Linh Nguyen they are not lying! this is do you know the extreme side of the political compass? Think of this as that but company

  • @razvan6133
    @razvan6133 Před 3 lety +3

    Since when is Playstation a company?

  • @reporterborracho
    @reporterborracho Před 4 lety +1

    Assisti esse programa na CNN Brasil. É fantástico. Mostra um Japão que pouca gente conhece.

  • @FergusGarden
    @FergusGarden Před 3 lety +10

    The part where some of the participants in the training were yelling their vulnerabilities was too short. I just saw it on TV and it was longer - it is an idea that I really like, since in trainings that I'm used to, everybody tries to be as invulnerable as possible. That was like a breath of fresh air for me.

    • @Sara-sn5gd
      @Sara-sn5gd Před 3 lety +1

      It can be seen as a good thing, but it could also be harmful in that it could be a form of public shaming. The people here would already be on a lower rank than the course administrator so having them loudly express the failing makes them emotionally lower themselves too, especially because then they likely don't really get support for it.

    • @assassinaria
      @assassinaria Před rokem +1

      It definitely helps people acknowledge their weaknesses and figure out how to overcome them. I often do this to remind myself I am just a person, equally as human as the people I manage. Some people can get carried away with power and presume they were given the position for who they are rather than how well they can serve the people they manage.

  • @Phlegethon
    @Phlegethon Před 3 lety +7

    guy says thank you for the meal. BBC White lady who doesn’t understand Japanese says in all seriousness “somebody really really didn’t like the main course”

  • @proudlycanadian3023
    @proudlycanadian3023 Před 2 lety +1

    Sie liegen in meiner Verantwortung! Es geht um ABSOLUTE PERFEKTION! Es geht darum, im höchsten Maße tadellos makellos / makellos zu sein!

  • @inkyukim436
    @inkyukim436 Před 3 lety +5

    I am still waiting for them to teach something useful...

  • @cathybaldry7822
    @cathybaldry7822 Před rokem

    That must be one tough management course

  • @gerardsangil9760
    @gerardsangil9760 Před 3 lety +1

    Customer: Hi! I’m looking for a phone. They said that it’s the best business here. Businessman: A-E-*O-OU!!!!!

  • @ichi_san
    @ichi_san Před 2 lety

    Some companies are probably as traditional as this, however hot damn this particular company is very extreme! Executive jobs in Japan look really tough...
    However I have heard that if you join a more 'globally minded' company they aren't as strict

  • @shamkumar3420
    @shamkumar3420 Před 3 lety

    Introvert: I think I need to take this course

  • @dawnmendenhall9359
    @dawnmendenhall9359 Před 4 lety +1

    I remember her from the British Bake Show.

  • @zhuoyanpan1253
    @zhuoyanpan1253 Před 3 lety

    I wonder whether this training is a must or more like an extracurricular activity for managers-to-be?

  • @fullstackhead3450
    @fullstackhead3450 Před 4 lety

    Interesting!!

  • @mouseminer2978
    @mouseminer2978 Před 4 lety +1

    It is just a military standard. Discipline is the key.

  • @mattng4707
    @mattng4707 Před rokem

    I feel they need a hug

  • @MrRufusjax
    @MrRufusjax Před 17 dny

    This is like the School for Failures in the movie Gung Ho.

  • @hacihocni6156
    @hacihocni6156 Před 4 lety

    This is cool

  • @cotedazure
    @cotedazure Před rokem +1

    reminds me of the opening scene of Gung Ho!

  • @PhenixJr1
    @PhenixJr1 Před 4 lety +2

    Why is this on my recommendation list 1st I'm American 2nd I dont speak Japanese 3rd I have never seen a video about any of this stuff. Yet for some reason I still find this interesting

    • @Buzz407-
      @Buzz407- Před 4 lety

      Odd, I was just wondering the same thing. Have you been watching any aviation, military history, or cooking videos? :P We gotta figure this one out.

  • @kaorimakino
    @kaorimakino Před 4 lety +3

    If they spend this time in actually working and living a true life, they might be very productive. Resting is a part of working !

  • @user-ou9ln4vl2n
    @user-ou9ln4vl2n Před 3 lety +2

    I am Japanese but WTF. this is crazy lol. this is the craziest thing I have ever seen.
    is this for real ?

  • @missxmarvel
    @missxmarvel Před 3 lety

    I wished I was raised like that.

  • @vivoslibertos
    @vivoslibertos Před 3 lety +2

    The anime title is: How to raise an isekai reborn summoned male karen

  • @y.y.4673
    @y.y.4673 Před 4 lety +1

    This led to a train accident which killed 107 people 15 years ago today.

  • @tip_vicious
    @tip_vicious Před 3 lety +1

    Ur here after listening to Bill Burr ;)

  • @noiselesspatient
    @noiselesspatient Před 4 lety +3

    Horrendous. What a shame she didn't visit Eihe-ji or Antai-ji to observe how they teach self-discipline which is truly transformative. Wouldn't have made 'must-see' TV, I suppose...

  • @Laugh.704
    @Laugh.704 Před rokem +2

    It's their culture, let alone and go home and look at your own...

  • @ikennabede
    @ikennabede Před 4 lety +2

    🤣🤣😂😂😂😅😅😅 I'm too weak to write my opinion.

  • @kingstone9408
    @kingstone9408 Před 2 lety +1

    Japan is military academy!

  • @zsuzsadosane3863
    @zsuzsadosane3863 Před 8 měsíci

    Wery good This film but your all film! Good your explanation and comment I agree all ! Thank you, From Hungary ❤️👍I see no BBC EARTH❤️

  • @bozorgmehrmosaheb9825
    @bozorgmehrmosaheb9825 Před 2 měsíci

    Who knows about the name of school and I really like to learn about it more I appreciate if someone help me.

  • @anderzonmanrique8777
    @anderzonmanrique8777 Před 3 lety

    2:37 TREASURE MEME!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA KONNICHIWA

  • @Rob-cy5xj
    @Rob-cy5xj Před 4 lety +2

    Japan and China seem to push the limits of the work environment to the maximum from what I've seen.

  • @Ultradude604
    @Ultradude604 Před 3 lety

    She's giving what Larry David would call, "a shit bow".

  • @Waxid
    @Waxid Před 4 lety

    0:35
    😂

  • @mattng4707
    @mattng4707 Před rokem

    This is great the presenter so funny

  • @markhorney7625
    @markhorney7625 Před 2 lety

    Wow, after seeing GUNG HO with michael Keaton, I was curious if these sort of places exist. I'm suprised.. XD

  • @PeckiePeck
    @PeckiePeck Před 5 měsíci

    It's really hilarious how they have to shout everything.

  • @jonathonrivers9120
    @jonathonrivers9120 Před 4 lety +6

    I'm being nit-picky but I hate how around 3:40 when she is listing companies she says "Sony, and my own personal favorite; Playstation". Playstation is a product of Sony Interactive Entertainment which is a subsidiary of Sony. It is not a business and to list it after Sony would be as if when she mentioned Toyota she also included "Her favorite" (Company); Camry.
    I think she may have been trying to seem "trendy" by forcing Playstation into the statement

  • @huehue5286
    @huehue5286 Před 4 lety +1

    >women are underrepresented in senior management
    You can take this shitty job any day, I would rather be a janitor than living this hell.

  • @carmenantonia3317
    @carmenantonia3317 Před 4 lety +1

    SUE AMO VOCE!

  • @Tonytayloring
    @Tonytayloring Před 4 lety +1

    So that's the way they churned out crazy Japanese soldiers into Kamikaze attackers & banzai chargers

  • @jakkuwolfinsomnia8058
    @jakkuwolfinsomnia8058 Před 7 měsíci

    I love how Japan takes everything to the extreme but my god they’re under so much intense pressure no wonder they’re all getting heart attacks

  • @UnclePutte
    @UnclePutte Před 4 lety +1

    It all looks like busy work.

  • @balkarsinghtoor8084
    @balkarsinghtoor8084 Před 3 lety

    I went to the wrong business school :(

  • @ethicalphytophage
    @ethicalphytophage Před 3 lety +1

    The concept of shame at failing such a bonkers class is itself bonkers. I can imagine that such an absolutist view of what constitutes success is one of the reasons for the high number of suicides per capita in certain parts of Japan. (No offense to the Japanese people meant. All the Japanese people I've met have been absolutely wonderful. I am critical of the philosophy shown in this video, that's all.)

  • @DanielLopez-sh2pp
    @DanielLopez-sh2pp Před 3 lety +1

    I am replacing mine with Ai.
    My business will just a Ai program running everything soon. So how will this help me at all?

  • @verygoodboy5724
    @verygoodboy5724 Před 2 lety

    Waa arin layaab ah

  • @yoannassemien6598
    @yoannassemien6598 Před 4 lety

    😹😹😹 i like it

  • @hackeem7
    @hackeem7 Před 2 lety

    I’m worried for Japan now

    • @aproy5256
      @aproy5256 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Sorry, this is not the most of Japanese companies or academy. However, there are a lot of companies doing these strange activities in daily work.

  • @yerovi86
    @yerovi86 Před 3 lety +1

    🏃 KONICHIWA! 🏃‍♂️ KONICHIWA!

  • @douglasbullet6456
    @douglasbullet6456 Před 2 lety

    This is the first time I've ever seen or heard a grown say that she likes a PlayStation

  • @hugo2171
    @hugo2171 Před 4 lety

    That's what work looks like !

  • @vivoslibertos
    @vivoslibertos Před 3 lety +1

    So the graduates either become bully or bullied.

  • @agatan1000
    @agatan1000 Před 4 lety +1

    管理者養成学校ですね。日本人でも奇妙なとこがあるから、外国の方は理解しがたいかも。だけどこのやり方で結果が出でてるから結果に対してはあってる。

  • @loc12345pro
    @loc12345pro Před 2 lety

    This place is weird… I cannot imagine this even in my weirdest dreams.

  • @swirlandtwirl5417
    @swirlandtwirl5417 Před 5 měsíci

    CAN YOU SURVIVE THIS???

  • @rexchang5621
    @rexchang5621 Před rokem +1

    I don’t agree with the over formality of this kind of training, but I absolutely hate how condescending this reporter looks

  • @atharsuhail4465
    @atharsuhail4465 Před rokem

    Are they preparing manager or fish seller

  • @kalumeet1
    @kalumeet1 Před 4 lety +6

    interesting way to learn empathy 🤣😂

  • @shadow_gamer_7773
    @shadow_gamer_7773 Před 4 lety +1

    PS4 is best console, proven by bbc

  • @oopopp
    @oopopp Před 4 lety +1

    When JOKER isn't fighting Batman... I see him starting a school like this... haha.....

  • @KlyffHanger
    @KlyffHanger Před 24 dny

    This do be more gruelling than the Hashira Training Arc tho...
    Blud's are getting the Training arc of their life. Gonna get a hold of that One Piece after Graduation.
    Non-Japanese: This is Crazy! Why would they sign up?
    Japanese: This is Crazy! Where do I sign up?

  • @yay-cat
    @yay-cat Před 4 lety

    The worlds most intense finishing school

  • @panaderiatecnica5922
    @panaderiatecnica5922 Před 4 lety

    so smart people!!!!!!!!

  • @linus4108
    @linus4108 Před 4 lety

    Many company in my country send their new employee to marine corps camp for character building , so yeah i think this one better

  • @RafaelDsHere
    @RafaelDsHere Před 3 lety +4

    i cant watch karen

  • @maxsteel9704
    @maxsteel9704 Před rokem

    Thats to crazy 🤦🤦

  • @SLAP1FACE
    @SLAP1FACE Před 4 lety +2

    wtf. (directed towards her) lol

  • @zazalizakaria4152
    @zazalizakaria4152 Před 3 lety

    just like army training hehrhrh

  • @dsirulz1
    @dsirulz1 Před 3 lety +1

    KONICHIWA
    People: 0__0 ......

  • @lillithdv8
    @lillithdv8 Před 2 lety

    The bit about the badges of shame at 5:00 reminds me of Pride & Prejudice where Elizabeth comments on the notion of an 'accomplished woman' as per the high standards of Mr Darcy & Co where she must have thorough knowledge of music, singing, drawing, dancing, all the modern languages, to deserve the word. It's extreme and rather untenable tbh

  • @MandarinaNarandzic
    @MandarinaNarandzic Před rokem

    Sick