The Black Crowes: Steve Gorman's Nasty Feud with Chris and Rich Robinson

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  • Drummer Steve Gorman's Nasty Feud with the Black Crowes
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Komentáře • 479

  • @da324
    @da324 Před 3 měsíci +22

    Steve's story has never changed, can't say the same about the brothers. Steve's book is a great read.

  • @Thornspyre81
    @Thornspyre81 Před rokem +59

    The thing about Steve is he's the kind of guy who does seem to admit his faults which is admirable.

  • @jeremymullins1294
    @jeremymullins1294 Před 3 měsíci +23

    Adam Jones, the guitarist for TOOL, said in an interview that the reason they are still together is because they split the money evenly.

  • @teeoh9192
    @teeoh9192 Před rokem +58

    I did security at the Hollywood Palladium, the last time the Crowes played there. They did two sets, & in between those sets, I got to talk to Steve for a good 10 or so minutes, & got to share my admiration for his story (we're the same age & were "late bloomers") & it's one of my favorite interactions with a famous musician/celebrity!

    • @jamietuggnut3312
      @jamietuggnut3312 Před rokem +6

      He's on KQRS morning radio show up here in Minneapolis now and he's awesome...He seems very down-to-earth and he's funny. It's a great show!

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@jamietuggnut3312 He really is funny. I remember when they were recording "Before the Frost...Until the Freeze" at Levon Helm's studio - I think it was night 2 - they were playing "Roll Old Jeremiah" and Paul Stacey signaled for them to stop and start over. It was right after Chris sings,
      "Wave goodbye to Albuquerque", and when they stopped, Chris said something to the effect of, "I guess we're not gonna make it to Sioux City Falls." Steve piped up from behind the kit: "Great place to stop a trip: before you reach Sioux City Falls. No offense to anyone from there or anything, I'm sure it's beautiful..." He was cracking jokes like that for the whole run of recording sessions, it was hilarious. Chris was , too - every night was like an electric VH1 Storytellers, only with brand-new songs.

    • @Cinnamongun1
      @Cinnamongun1 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I was around Steve a lot in the day. He would give me big hugs and lift me up off the ground. (I even worked up at American Recordings in Burbank in 1996.) But now, Gorman has no recollection of me whatsoever. Marc does, (MFF still gives me hugs,) Rich does, arrogant Chris does but won't acknowledge it. Gorman has a faulty memory. He probably doesn't remember your encounter with him either. But Gorman is brutally honest, and I appreciate that. ☮

    • @shable1436
      @shable1436 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@Cinnamongun1hanging around a lot huh😂, I remember them before they ever went to LA, I played the same music venue circuits around the area

    • @vistalite
      @vistalite Před 3 měsíci +1

      ⁠@@shable1436 I knew them when they were the Rabinowitz brothers - just a couple of Jewish boys from Marietta.

  • @joebagodonuts7563
    @joebagodonuts7563 Před rokem +70

    When big money is involved lifetime friendships go out the window

    • @jonspengler5891
      @jonspengler5891 Před rokem

      Divorce court is proof of this

    • @iwishiknew10
      @iwishiknew10 Před 2 měsíci +2

      specially when all the money you made during the heyday is gone and your future is not as bright

  • @antilaw9911
    @antilaw9911 Před 7 měsíci +20

    Steve now is radio host here in twin cities for KQRS classic rock station. We welcome him 👍

    • @MR_ReignStorm
      @MR_ReignStorm Před 3 měsíci

      His radio show is awesome 🤘🏽🔥☝️

  • @maryuline2585
    @maryuline2585 Před rokem +28

    Just reading Steve's book now. Very, very interesting. Don't know how he stuck it out as long as he did. It's very, very hard to be around crazy, disturbed people!!

    • @steviec67
      @steviec67 Před 5 měsíci

      Money and a love for what your doing helps ✌🏻

    • @retlaw190
      @retlaw190 Před 3 měsíci +1

      The audiobook is really good too He narrates it!

  • @Finsami71
    @Finsami71 Před rokem +66

    'Southern harmony and musical companion' , oh boy what a title. But that was their second and best album, and Steve Gorman was absolutely the back bone of the band.

    • @chrismitchell45
      @chrismitchell45 Před rokem +10

      I totally agree. Every song on that album was outstanding. The drums on Bad Luck Blue Eyes Goodbye and Sometimes Salvation had so much space they thundered!

    • @Cinnamongun1
      @Cinnamongun1 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Correct. I told Steve in 1995, "You're a human metronome." He said "thank you." ☮

  • @IvanLendl87
    @IvanLendl87 Před rokem +43

    There’s more to this story.
    Yes, when Chris Robinson issued his new demands in 2014, Rich Robinson and Steve Gorman very much had each other’s back and refused to comply w Chris’ outrageous demands. So TBC broke up officially in 2015. Then in 2016 Rich put together The Magpie Salute. Rich got former Crowes guitarist Marc Ford, Crowes bassist Sven Pipien, and former Crowes keyboardist Ed Harsch on board for this project. But the very first person he asked was Crowes drummer Steve Gorman. So there was obviously no problem between them at that point from Rich’s view. Gorman turned the gig down citing his steady gig as a radio host and not wanting to live the life of a touring musician ad this stage of life. Rich understood and was cool with that and with Steve. Rich was so cool about it that at the debut show of The Magpie Salute in NYC he used Steve’s audio from his radio show where he essentially gave a touching eulogy to the then recently passed Ed Harsch.
    Things turned sour between Steve and Rich (at least on Steve’s part) in early 2017 when Steve invited Rich to Nashville (where Steve lives) to perform at a benefit show Steve put together. Rich agreed to perform but then canceled at the last minute. Apparently (but unbeknownst to Rich) this seriously pissed Steve off. The next thing that happened was Steve put out his book which slammed both Chris and Rich. One definite lie contained in that book was Steve’s account of why Jimmy Page left the Crowes/Page tour in 2000. Steve claims Rich turned down Page’s offer to write songs together for the next Crowes album and that Page was insulted, got furious with Rich and then left the tour. Steve claimed Page didn’t want to be in Rich’s presence ever again. Problem with this was that there are several photos of Page with Rich AFTER that Crowes/Page tour. In every photo over the years both guys are hugging and smiling. AND Page is on record saying he never had issues with Rich. The actual reason Page left that tour was a money dispute with Crowes management over his percentage of the profits. I love Page but he is notoriously a tightwad. So they concocted a story that Page developed a back issue and had to stop the tour.
    As a lifelong fan of TBC I can safely say that that band was as dysfunctional as they come. And most of that dysfunction came from Chris Robinson - not Rich. Chris has always been a diva w a bad temper. The toxicity spewed from him. In short, he’s an asshole. But Steve was Chris’ best friend in the band. Steve was actually never particularly close to Rich who is a quiet guy and a bit of a loner. When Chris shat upon Steve in 2013 by demanding he dissolve his share of the band (and essentially become a hired hand) I think it threw Steve for a loop and his bitterness for having been involved w that band went though the roof. Rich’s last minute cancellation of the charity gig was an excuse to then hate Rich too.

    • @TheRoomfull
      @TheRoomfull Před rokem +15

      FYI....Jimmy had a serious back issue and that's a fact. How do I know, my GF at the time worked for a company called Advantage Diagnostics and they did a MRI on Jimmy. She said he was very gimpy and obviously in pain when he arrived but he was a complete gentleman.
      For what's its worth...

    • @kiekko673
      @kiekko673 Před rokem +4

      Steve was very close to Chris in the
      beginning. Later on, Chris was close
      to those who also did drugs, Marc and
      Eddie. Steve was never using anything
      that much, not even alcohol.
      Rich was never that close to anybody,
      since he is, like you said, a loner, extreme
      introvert. ✌️

    • @monkface
      @monkface Před rokem +2

      I was all set to see the Crowes with Page in Las Vegas at the Joint at the Hard Rock, only to be told getting off the plane by my buddy that it was canceled due to Jimmy Page having back issues. It wasn't until I read Gorman's book that I learned otherwise, whatever the cause may be. Now that I type this over 20 years later it still upsets me!!

    • @dewdew34
      @dewdew34 Před rokem +2

      Nice backstory, well written.

    • @TheRoomfull
      @TheRoomfull Před rokem +1

      @@dewdew34 Well written indeed....and a big dose of conjecture.

  • @lancedelger5182
    @lancedelger5182 Před rokem +9

    At least now I got Steve Gorman on my radio hosting my favorite station's morning show.

  • @chrismitchell45
    @chrismitchell45 Před rokem +51

    He was probably my biggest influence as a drummer in the early 90’s when I first started gigging. The grooves for Remedy and Thorn in My Pride are still in my top five favorites of all time. Awesome drummer!

    • @1970borntorun
      @1970borntorun Před rokem +3

      Steve was the only member of the band that any personality on their instrument.

    • @godbyone
      @godbyone Před rokem +2

      Singers always get money

    • @soulbravo1761
      @soulbravo1761 Před rokem +3

      Same here Brother. He was also my influence. He has that distinct sound and feel when he plays.

  • @pf100andahalf
    @pf100andahalf Před 7 měsíci +35

    Steve Gorman is way underrated. What a monster drummer and a good guy.

  • @greekgirl9897
    @greekgirl9897 Před rokem +6

    The three of them together can't be beat!

  • @burkejones8277
    @burkejones8277 Před rokem +18

    That first record they did is still of my top 10 favorite records of all time.

    • @MrMotorNerd
      @MrMotorNerd Před rokem +4

      Top 5 , How could you be so blind . :)

    • @burkejones8277
      @burkejones8277 Před rokem +3

      @@MrMotorNerd Probably is actually in the top 5… 😂

    • @T.R.R.Jolkien
      @T.R.R.Jolkien Před rokem +1

      I saw them around 1990 open for the Michael Sheinker Group. It was an awesome show but everything I’ve ever heard in the press about this band was negative. They even got kicked off the ZZ Top tour. Always in court

    • @jeffhobbs1729
      @jeffhobbs1729 Před rokem +6

      i mean what about SHMC? Amorica?

    • @burkejones8277
      @burkejones8277 Před rokem +2

      @@jeffhobbs1729 Those are not in my top 10. I am not saying they are bad, but they just don’t make the cut for me. I think that first record was/is a masterpiece.

  • @MRCATL3
    @MRCATL3 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I moved to Atlanta in 1993. I lived up the street from Steve Gorman. He was an absolute solid man. Love him.

  • @Green28142814
    @Green28142814 Před rokem +5

    'until their last breakup..." is a funny thing to say, even though it makes sense.

  • @jaynecobb5774
    @jaynecobb5774 Před rokem +33

    The Robisons have always got in the way of that band being something...

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem +7

      Yup. As Steve makes clear in his book, perhaps only The Replacements did more to fuck up their own career than The Black Crowes did. And it was mostly Chris's decisions that did them in, too.

    • @jarradmoore6939
      @jarradmoore6939 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Absolute bullshit

    • @da324
      @da324 Před 3 měsíci

      @@jarradmoore6939 Not if you know their history.

    • @amatingmind7258
      @amatingmind7258 Před 2 měsíci

      Without the Robinsons there wouldn't have been a band to begin with. Yeah, they did dumb shit. But lots of people do dumb shit when they're presented with fame & money & adulation. But I see no evidence that the Robinson brothers are worse than others that made it. They may have just been more honest, actually.

  • @kingkat8080
    @kingkat8080 Před rokem +11

    I like Steve Groman's radio show, listen to it regularly at work.

  • @jayybone6227
    @jayybone6227 Před rokem +7

    Steve's drum beats and fills was what got me into playing drums and realizing that soul groove and rock could go well together. It saddens me they can't honor the legacy.

  • @warrenwebb8172
    @warrenwebb8172 Před rokem +18

    Pretty sure in his book, Gorman said he resigned as a member of the band around 2000, after that he was as brought back as a paid employee, mostly at Rich’s urging, but not as a full member

    • @Steaminlidz
      @Steaminlidz Před rokem +4

      The money thing’s all a bit weird. The Chris Robinson Brotherhood was apparently very egalitarian all split equally, so I wonder whether it all being about CR demanding the lion’s share of the money from that Black Crowes tour is a bit of an over-simplification of what happened.

    • @robpaxson4455
      @robpaxson4455 Před rokem +7

      Not true, up until 2015 Steve and the brothers were equal partners

    • @afmartin2734
      @afmartin2734 Před rokem +1

      @@robpaxson4455 - Correct. It's why Steve used his leverage in 2005 for the reunion and why he was so pissed off they dissolved it in 2001 with a new deal with Virgin for a million a record. Steve all of a sudden went from income to no income.

    • @Sobchak2
      @Sobchak2 Před rokem

      If i remember correctly, Rich agreed of having him back as a fully fledged member (I read the book too long ago, i may be wrong).

  • @WhiskeySam1
    @WhiskeySam1 Před rokem +13

    LOL… “he was mad at himself because he’s gonna be there and he knows it.” I love Gorman. It’s a damned shame though this group can’t get over their own egos, because if you got the Robinsons, Gorman, Sven, Ford… I’d move mountains to see that show multiple times. Don’t know how you’d replace Eddie though.

    • @Sobchak2
      @Sobchak2 Před rokem +2

      Adam had a very original style of playing, Eddie himself said Adam "had it".

    • @airgunfun4248
      @airgunfun4248 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Mark F'n Ford!

  • @dewdew34
    @dewdew34 Před rokem +2

    Went to school with Steve, grade school... Bit older than me. Nice guy as i listened to his sports show and chatted with him a few times online.

  • @TheRambouillet
    @TheRambouillet Před 2 měsíci +1

    Spot on! Steve

  • @toddrichardson8595
    @toddrichardson8595 Před rokem +8

    I propose (The 2023 DIVA'S TOUR: Featuring The Black Crowes and Oasis) With Special Guest Axel Rose..

  • @russellmcbride1242
    @russellmcbride1242 Před rokem

    Wow!!! Just wow!

  • @johnnypk1963
    @johnnypk1963 Před rokem +16

    You should’ve mentioned Steve’s book. Lots of bridges got burned and feelings got hurt w that tale of destruction

    • @dmstewart66
      @dmstewart66 Před rokem +11

      the video does mention the book. and that after the book was released, Rich was still defending Gorman. So clearly the book didnt burn any bridges between Gorman and Rich.

    • @T.R.R.Jolkien
      @T.R.R.Jolkien Před rokem

      @@dmstewart66 you have great comprehension skills 👍🏽

  • @TheJaxsonjack
    @TheJaxsonjack Před rokem +15

    I thought Steve's book was a very good and interesting read.

  • @awrogers3013
    @awrogers3013 Před rokem +159

    I’ve never once considered the rich and Chris show as the crowes. Anyone who saw the original band knows better

    • @peach495
      @peach495 Před rokem +4

      Sometimes that's just the way it is. For instance: Paul Rodgers, although an excellent show. It's just not the same as when he played with Bad company. I've seen him multiple times in both iterations. There's just something tighter with Bad Company. Even when as Paul Rodgers he'll play Bad Company songs. The benefit to seeing him as Paul Rodgers though is he'll do Free material.

    • @danielabilez3619
      @danielabilez3619 Před rokem +10

      Yezzir. It takes a band. Shady. It will not end well. Greed... They definitely learned from KISS, Black Sabbath, and Van Halen. Why Vanhalen? How much did Wolfgang get? Ah... It's a small matter..
      The Black crows are done for me. To each their own.

    • @walman16
      @walman16 Před rokem +2

      Yep!

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem +10

      Same here. Marc and Eddie were a HUGE part of why they sounded so great. I'm just glad I saw so many Crowes shows from the golden eras of '92-'97 and '05/'06 (and plenty before and after) to both put in perspective what a JOKE Chris and Rich have become, and to give me a lifetime of memories of better TBC days.

    • @suprotwin
      @suprotwin Před rokem +1

      B A S E D

  • @sbiruli
    @sbiruli Před rokem +1

    I saw black crowes 4 times...the last time in october 2022, in milan....i like it very much, with the new drummer they was great anyway...

  • @holysmokes5817
    @holysmokes5817 Před rokem +9

    I was so excited to hear of the Crowes reunion.
    When I heard that Steven Gorman was being treated this way...No way. Lost interest.
    Steve Gorman was the back bone and heart of the band.
    Their loss.

  • @peterrussell6029
    @peterrussell6029 Před rokem +62

    Just a thought: How do they propose getting someone to fill the shoes of a drummer as great as Steve Gorman?

    • @LSUOdyssey
      @LSUOdyssey Před rokem +12

      Watch the reunion footage it's a joke without Steve

    • @jimschleich8753
      @jimschleich8753 Před rokem

      A little surprised they didn't get the drummer from Echo and The Bunnymen!

    • @LSUOdyssey
      @LSUOdyssey Před rokem +5

      @@brianplunkett4002 two very different drummers

    • @derekmoody1358
      @derekmoody1358 Před rokem +5

      Lotsa great drummers in the world

    • @LadyMemphis
      @LadyMemphis Před rokem +1

      Hire 1 just like that. The black crowds are doing as well. Concerts was 🔥 brothers are closer that ever

  • @toddk1479
    @toddk1479 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I refuse to listen to them without Steve playing Drums.

  • @stefanfeist9893
    @stefanfeist9893 Před rokem +4

    It's so sad, because the last real Crowes albums Warpaint, Before the Frost and also Croweology were really really good.

  • @polkmontague8215
    @polkmontague8215 Před rokem +6

    Steves book was fantastic. I will never think the same of Chris and Ritch.

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem

      I agree it was an amazing book. Part of me wishes I never read it, though.

    • @j.reveille6815
      @j.reveille6815 Před rokem

      Yeah such a dickie move..Gorman IS a Crowe.

  • @guineveregruntle6746
    @guineveregruntle6746 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Gorman made choices as did the Robinson brothers. Life goes on.

  • @alejandrohz8259
    @alejandrohz8259 Před rokem +10

    Gorman is a great drummer and he should be in the band. But I saw TBC two weeks ago and they were fantastic. Great gig. Love them.

  • @allanvanuga9196
    @allanvanuga9196 Před rokem

    Great video.

  • @JamesKenneally-le1zd
    @JamesKenneally-le1zd Před 3 měsíci +4

    Smartest drummer I've ever heard! Stewart Copeland is right up there with this great drummer.

  • @bane1240
    @bane1240 Před 3 měsíci

    Gormans book is fantastic. I love the Crowes. Always have. They will never sound better than when Steve was in the band. His creativity for his instrument is a huge part of why their sound was attractive. However, the Crowes are and always will be Chris and Rich Robinson.

  • @Bigbitboom
    @Bigbitboom Před 3 měsíci +1

    STEVE, THE DRUMMER!!!!! THE ONLY ONE!!!!!

  • @dathorndike4908
    @dathorndike4908 Před rokem +8

    Original guitarist Marc Ford is another ex- member that was unfairly treated by the Robinson brothers. Would love to hear his complete story as well

    • @kimmartin6063
      @kimmartin6063 Před 5 měsíci

      He was the 2nd.

    • @waynemoloney3862
      @waynemoloney3862 Před 2 měsíci

      He was a too much a Junkie to function as a touring musician, from what I’ve heard.

  • @sixstringsensei6673
    @sixstringsensei6673 Před rokem +3

    His book was excellent

  • @nestorlopez6983
    @nestorlopez6983 Před rokem +2

    The Crowes are sounding great on tour, with a new guitarist( Nico) and drummer.

    • @pyme495
      @pyme495 Před 7 měsíci

      Kinda hard to keep a band's name plural when you only have one of the original three, isn't it?

    • @nestorlopez6983
      @nestorlopez6983 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@pyme495Only the brothers are the same, the rest are not.

  • @jimdellavecchia4594
    @jimdellavecchia4594 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It's been a looong time since 1990

  • @Oriolesfun
    @Oriolesfun Před rokem +1

    Best rock n roll band

  • @angelomelville9084
    @angelomelville9084 Před rokem +5

    HEY, HOW ABOUT MARK FORD. HE WAS (IS) A GOOD SUPPORTER TOO!

  • @robstrange93
    @robstrange93 Před rokem +1

    Never say never...he will be back in the Crowes

  • @Snapshott1
    @Snapshott1 Před rokem +17

    I was working for a music venue and Rich was playing there one night. The owner always purchase photos for every show I worked. When we were going over shows she would not ever hang a photo of Rich in her venue because he was the rudest

    • @stevetrivago
      @stevetrivago Před rokem +2

      Rich got sober .. he’s not an asshole anymore

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem +2

      I met Rich a couple times and he was really cool. But I have heard that he's rude as well. I guess it all depends on the circumstances. For instance: one time outside a restaurant on the afternoon of a Crowes show, he was sitting on a bench outside with a whole bunch of kids (perhaps he was babysitting for the entire band and crew?) as we approached. Most people probably would have gone up and bugged him, but I had no urge to. He looked harried enough already. However, in a guitar shop I had no reservations about approaching him. Same goes for after a soundcheck once when I ran into him outside while I was walking to our hotel.

    • @Snapshott1
      @Snapshott1 Před rokem +1

      @@stevetrivago Glad to hear that.

    • @greatwhite3676
      @greatwhite3676 Před 10 měsíci

      @@stevetrivago Rich never drank or got high hes just a prick. They also treated Marc Ford like shit. Marc is a super nice guy and the most musically gifted member of that band.

  • @edjuillard4054
    @edjuillard4054 Před rokem +7

    Yours is my favorite thing on CZcams. Informative and WONDERFULLY entertaining.
    Thank You for it.

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  Před rokem +1

      Thanks

    • @motorcity7137
      @motorcity7137 Před rokem +1

      @@rnrtruestories not even a hint about how Rich pissed off Jimmy Page on that tour ?? Dig deeper

  • @if6turnedouttobe9
    @if6turnedouttobe9 Před rokem +15

    What a monster drummer...Gorman is...

  • @kyleericson9777
    @kyleericson9777 Před rokem +3

    Seems like exactly what happened to Oasis (although they haven’t tried reforming … yet!). I always remember something Eddie Van Halen said about David Lee Roth when he went solo … he called it “LSD” for lead singer disease as they always think they’re more important than everyone else in the band.

  • @jonesy2111
    @jonesy2111 Před rokem +28

    I think most people can see from 100 miles away that this situation is that classic grreed and grabbing the light for themselves ego 'rock star' bs. It really does take a band and in too many bands this is the case. Kudos to the former drummer and I hope he sues their asses royal. 👍

    • @kiekko673
      @kiekko673 Před rokem +4

      He did, and got the $$$.
      The case never went to court. ✌️

    • @williamboyle8918
      @williamboyle8918 Před rokem +2

      @@kiekko673 He received 22k boxes of Count Chocula for settlement ! Weird.

    • @patrickcronin1501
      @patrickcronin1501 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Chris comes off like he is above it all and it's about the art when obviously it's all abiur the monet.

  • @WinterInTheForest
    @WinterInTheForest Před rokem +36

    It's sad how people turn on each other over money.

    • @brianplunkett4002
      @brianplunkett4002 Před rokem +3

      That’s the main reason why people fight.

    • @davidstewart4310
      @davidstewart4310 Před rokem

      Very true but it usually is always over money. Even though they have plenty money.

    • @SillyGoose2024
      @SillyGoose2024 Před rokem +2

      particularly when it's the snooty "awtists" who are only about peace and love maaaannnn

  • @kenterminateddq5311
    @kenterminateddq5311 Před rokem +5

    R n R True Stories, can you make a video on the Crowes' Amorica album controversy?
    Anyone else want to see True Stories talking about the risque cover?

    • @kenterminateddq5311
      @kenterminateddq5311 Před rokem +1

      @@r.edward5701 you got it.
      True Stories can censored the risque cover and still talk about it.

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem +1

      Here's the true story of it: Chris wanted to use the "pubes" cover of it, and the rest of the band absolutely hated it and thought it was professional suicide. Of course Chris won out in the end and it was yet another bullet in the collective foot of The Black Crowes.

    • @spiritualarchitect4276
      @spiritualarchitect4276 Před 4 měsíci

      BEST album cover EVER!

  • @williamroark
    @williamroark Před měsícem

    What happened?? AN ALBUM!!💿!⚡️

  • @brettr5547
    @brettr5547 Před rokem +1

    When it comes to the TBC the old saying...never meet your heroes could not be truer

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem

      Depends on which one you meet, I guess. Steve is a great guy. Never met Chris, but all I have heard (from others who did) is that he is a major dick. Rich was cool the couple times I met him, same goes for Sven Pipien and Paul Stacey.

    • @Jason-si8iu
      @Jason-si8iu Před rokem

      How were they ???

    • @chaddynski2299
      @chaddynski2299 Před rokem

      ​@@johnr.8275So I've met them all and I have to say Christ was way nicer than I expected, Rich was cool and Steve was very nice.

  • @nrich5127
    @nrich5127 Před rokem +2

    Yep - R & R is a vicious game especially when eventually "it's all about the money".

  • @louisianasouthern_reverend6916

    Saw them in '92! Their all time peak.🔥What followed were up's and down's. Forth and back. The spirit was gone and so were the Black Crowes.😢

  • @Jason_Maier
    @Jason_Maier Před rokem +7

    Sid,
    Which set of brothers is more dysfunctional; the Robinsons (Black Crowes) or the Gallaghers (Oasis)?

    • @rnrtruestories
      @rnrtruestories  Před rokem +4

      Gallaghers. Both bands actually toured together

    • @jimschleich8753
      @jimschleich8753 Před rokem +2

      The Davies brothers from The Kinks did it first!! And made way better music than the other 2 combined (and probably 3 of 4 brothers would admit that!)!!

    • @Jason_Maier
      @Jason_Maier Před rokem

      @@rnrtruestories Now that must have been a fun tour!

    • @blainerudy2255
      @blainerudy2255 Před rokem

      The Davies of the Kinks! I remember hearing that Ray would wait outside in the limo til Dave left the building after interviews.

    • @jimschleich8753
      @jimschleich8753 Před rokem

      @@blainerudy2255 I'd throw some $$ at a reunion show. There was talk pre-youknow, but quiet now sadly.

  • @issuesandtissues9280
    @issuesandtissues9280 Před 8 měsíci +3

    How broke are you Chris? He's only one of the 2 or 3 best drummers alive pay the man Jeez! 💜

  • @SurlyMontanan
    @SurlyMontanan Před rokem +3

    Did you intentionally drop this on Chris Robinson’s birthday? 🥹😂🤣😂🤣

  • @oldchick
    @oldchick Před 6 měsíci

    Not knowing any of this before, me and a friend saw CRB 5 years ago. At the show I said to my friend, are we at a Grateful Dead show

  • @benleon3405
    @benleon3405 Před rokem +1

    Amorica has some of the greatest songs ever…oh well many friendships go south..throw in some money and it can go south fast..

  • @PalindromeDesign
    @PalindromeDesign Před rokem +4

    Given how many vintage rock acts are still selling tickets with one or even NO original members, the Robinson bros know they can always cash in till the day they die by throwing the BC name on a marquee. Most of the ticket buyers don't know or care who's playing, beyond maybe the singer, in some cases. They're paying for the nostalgia and and hour of music.

    • @Franciscasieri
      @Franciscasieri Před rokem +4

      Like the Synyrd tribute band...now that Gary is gone they will set up yet another fairwell tour...RVZ must be turning over in his grave...

    • @fluffyusa
      @fluffyusa Před rokem +2

      @@Franciscasieri the same thing with the tribute Journey band.

  • @AnonYmous-jp8uu
    @AnonYmous-jp8uu Před 3 měsíci +2

    they are close runner ups to Ed n Alex van halen for being the douchiest bros. of rock n roll

  • @TechMule59
    @TechMule59 Před 7 měsíci +7

    First of all, CR is a scumbag. RR, almost got it right when he said no to his brothers demands in 2105. Then RR formed TMS with Marc Ford and ran that for 2 albums and a few years. He was going broke touring with no profit. Back to CR, the tragic end of Neal Casal (guitarist in The CR Brotherhood) by suicide, left CR w/o a solid touring band. Both brothers were now in need of a cash infusion, hence the reunited 'Black Crowes' w/o Gorman to cut into the profit stream. It's a damn shame all the way around. TMS and TCRB were both great bands. Sorry to say TBC is not TBC w/o Gorman and Marc Ford IMO.

    • @deBebbler
      @deBebbler Před 7 měsíci

      Need moar acronyms

    • @macadoo2530
      @macadoo2530 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@deBebblerneed spelling help.

    • @deBebbler
      @deBebbler Před 2 měsíci

      @@macadoo2530 Welcome to your first week on teh interwebz

    • @macadoo2530
      @macadoo2530 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@deBebbleroh its internet humor.That's why I missed it.

  • @BlackCrowesB-Sides
    @BlackCrowesB-Sides Před 4 měsíci +1

    The Black Crowes Session Musicians that play The Black Crowes is a pretty good band if you tell me. Nice to have Chris and Rich creating again.

  • @fumanpoo4725
    @fumanpoo4725 Před rokem +1

    Be nice. Be kind.

  • @ALF782
    @ALF782 Před rokem +4

    Ask what Jimmy Page thought about being on stage with Steve Gorman.

    • @kimberc813
      @kimberc813 Před rokem

      What did jp think of Steve Gorman?

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem +2

      @@kimberc813 He LOVED Steve Gorman! Oddly, they even took a nap together (on separate couches on the afternoon of a show, which is amusing part of Steve's book). In all seriousness, when I saw Jimmy Page & The Black Crowes in 1999 and 2000, Jimmy Page spent the vast majority of his time onstage facing Steve, the both of them locked in together. It was apparent that Jimmy Page absolutely loved playing with Steve, and the Crowes in general. And then of course the brothers struck again and off Jimmy went.

    • @cbfd307
      @cbfd307 Před rokem

      Rich just had to fuck that all up. Ego and just looked miserable all the time.

    • @fgoindarkg
      @fgoindarkg Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@johnr.8275
      Page offered to produce their next album and Rich said no.

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před 3 měsíci

      @@fgoindarkg That's what I meant by "the brothers struck again." What kind of a jackass turns down Jimmy F***ing Page? Oh wait, Rich Robinson does.

  • @davidv1039
    @davidv1039 Před rokem +6

    They say, "Never Meet Your Heroes" . Chris was a di*k, Rich was distant. Steve was incredibly down to earth. I'm sure they put him at the front of the line for the meet and greet to prevent those with a strong grip from crushing those wall flowers.The fact remains, Steve Gorman is the nicest rock star I have ever met. (Special nod to Jackie Greene. He was a cool dude too.)

  • @doggydog643
    @doggydog643 Před 3 měsíci

    Gorman is a good fella.

  • @PuddlesMagoo
    @PuddlesMagoo Před 3 měsíci

    One good album

  • @coolnout3765
    @coolnout3765 Před 3 měsíci +1

    3:31 Gorman complains his friends dissed him, while the tone deaf Gorman, does the same.

  • @redacted2275
    @redacted2275 Před rokem +7

    People say the Gallaghers are vile but compared to the Robinsons their arrogance is almost tongue in cheek, plus most of the time it only involves the two, not the whole bands.

  • @erikolsen1333
    @erikolsen1333 Před rokem

    It’s CR’s birthday

  • @johnbsouth1
    @johnbsouth1 Před rokem +1

    Pride and Greed. Incredibly destructive forces.

  • @tylerstamps2786
    @tylerstamps2786 Před rokem +2

    I always liked the black crows and I couldn’t tell you for the life of me who the drummer was…idk why they just weren’t that kinda band. There were the brothers and everyone else.

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem +2

      I'll give you this: Gorman was a fairly pedestrian drummer until they did the tour with Jimmy Page in 1999. He changed playing all that Zeppelin stuff. You're out of your mind if you think "it's the brothers and everyone else", though. The quantum leap from their first album to second was due to the addition of two members who dramatically upgraded The Black Crowes' sound: Eddie Harsch and Marc Ford. They were never remotely as good without either, and I honestly don't care how good or bad Brian Griffin is. He's not Steve, and that's enough for me to stand clear - along with Eddie being dead and Steve and Marc being uninvited for cheaper, more controllable musicians.

    • @Sobchak2
      @Sobchak2 Před rokem +1

      I guess you've never been to one of their concerts then. I always thought Steve was the musical compass on stage, especially during their long (an amazing) live jams.
      To the point that when i n 2001 Steve left the band for the first time, they could not find a drummer who would fit the BC's music, and he brothers had to beg Steve to come back.

    • @joelm6631
      @joelm6631 Před rokem

      I could see how alot of people felt that way... But any real fan knew better.. Egos can kill a band... And Chris was always off the hook.

    • @cbfd307
      @cbfd307 Před rokem +1

      Steve’s playing on the Zep tunes was incredible. Only other drummer to come close to Bonzo was Michael Lee.

  • @jono9549
    @jono9549 Před rokem +1

    Because Chris had already tried to make him a contract player - that is what lead to the 2015 breakup. Once Rich needed money and eventually agreed to Chris' terms it was done. Even if Steve had never written his book, he was not welcome back because that splits the $$$ 3 ways, not the 2 the brothers agreed to

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem

      I know they love the money, but I can't help but wonder if Steve's book is part of the reason they are trying so hard to keep this charade together. "We'll show him!"

  • @awrogers3013
    @awrogers3013 Před rokem +4

    they fooled me once..

    • @afmartin2734
      @afmartin2734 Před rokem

      Been more than once. They already tried to sell out in 1999 and they failed at selling out. Now, they've sold out with Live Nation in tow and Live Nation is showing how the brothers how to do it.

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem

      @@afmartin2734 They had a fleeting chance at regaining a big fanbase when they toured with Jimmy Page in 1999 and 2000. Then Jimmy offered to help them out with their all-important next album and Rich said, "No thanks, my brother and I already have a whole bunch of great songs we wrote." Who ELSE would turn that down??? It wasn't like Page wanted to play all over it or take the spotlight; he offered to play a solo or produce the album because he knew how important that first album on their new Virgin deal was for the band. And we all know how "Lions" turned out.....

  • @ds2jim
    @ds2jim Před rokem +5

    read Steve's book if you get a chance. it's the best rock biography I've ever read- but will probably make you really hate the Robinson brothers. really, it's funny as hell.

    • @johnr.8275
      @johnr.8275 Před rokem +1

      I agree. Lots of funny stories, but man oh man, sometimes I wish I had never read it. I'll never look at the brothers the same way ever again.

    • @brandonlbartlett
      @brandonlbartlett Před rokem

      To.he fair, steve doesnt come out looking that great himseilf either. I've read it 3x

  • @timehrler2686
    @timehrler2686 Před rokem +1

    I could care less about any of this. I love their music. End of story.

  • @tracejohnson5519
    @tracejohnson5519 Před rokem +2

    Never join a band that has two or more members from the same family. See Van Halen.

  • @wickedlester5320
    @wickedlester5320 Před 2 měsíci

    Read his book. It is really good and the brothers are brilliant and stupid at the same time.

  • @theariesexperiment4642

    Boy howdy. There are some serious unresolved and vitriolic feelings coming from Gorman. Sheesh.

  • @didsomebodysaydmt8193

    I think he would be a great fit to join the foo fighters!

    • @user-bl6ne3hc6n
      @user-bl6ne3hc6n Před rokem

      Ohhhhhh wow where did that come from.,,great take,,,I bet Foo, try to get the boy to play for them, as soon he's old enough to go on the road wouldn't you think,,,??? But great take,,

  • @happyvalley6990
    @happyvalley6990 Před rokem +2

    THE ONLY BAND TO LOSE JIMMY PAGE. insanity.

  • @peterzang
    @peterzang Před rokem +2

    If rock stars didn’t need to live so large, they’d have money and wouldn’t act so dumb

    • @user-bl6ne3hc6n
      @user-bl6ne3hc6n Před rokem

      Matter if you like it or not ,it's still a business , one of your members are making more money than you, you're going to be pissed cuz you're the founding member of that band is still a business you start as friends but it turns into a business you don't work for free

  • @joenolan9602
    @joenolan9602 Před rokem +6

    I met Chris on South street in Philly and mentioned Marc Ford was such a talent. He got so angry and left the store. Lol. Whatever

    • @afmartin2734
      @afmartin2734 Před rokem +4

      haha! Chris has always been jealous of the attention the other band members have gotten.

    • @rossvaneldik3562
      @rossvaneldik3562 Před rokem +1

      Marc Ford is one of my favorite guitarists! Marc became a full-blown Christian. I don't think that sits well with someone like Chris Robinson. 🤷‍♂️

  • @oksureright
    @oksureright Před rokem

    Chris remember Denver 7/11? Following in your father's footsteps? POS Extraordinaire

  • @PeekaPeep
    @PeekaPeep Před 5 měsíci

    Always felt Gorman was the one true linchpin of the band. THAT'S when I knew the Black Crowes were officially done in that capacity the moment he finally called it quits for good back in 2014. He's right about one thing: Robinson brothers can keep playing under that name, but all they're doing is merely using it as a "brand" for marketing purposes. Personally, I still haven't gotten over lead guitarist Marc Ford leaving the band (what a HUGE loss that was in the grand scheme of things) and keyboardist Ed Harsch's passing in 2016 pretty much killed any chance of the 'classic' Crowes lineup ever reuniting again. On the other hand, glad Gorman still has his sanity intact after enduring all those years behind the drum kit supporting one of the most inherently dysfunctional rock acts in recent memory.

  • @loontil
    @loontil Před rokem +1

    Chris: Classic hippy - obsessed with financial gain while wittering on about the love, ...the vibe, ....

  • @stillerdiggrich8141
    @stillerdiggrich8141 Před měsícem

    Ego's and money make people break up

  • @markrobertdevison1227
    @markrobertdevison1227 Před rokem +2

    The Black Crowes can go away permanently and it would be okay with me. I do feel bad for the drummer. He clearly is the good guy, decent one in that mess. I hope he wins his lawsuit.

  • @kennethhacker3014
    @kennethhacker3014 Před 5 měsíci

    Steve reminds me of a Phil rudd .. great grove

    • @Cagney68
      @Cagney68 Před 5 měsíci

      A few more tools available than Rudd, but I get it.

  • @thewasatch208
    @thewasatch208 Před rokem

    What ever happened to AFI?...

  • @Prodigal1
    @Prodigal1 Před 11 měsíci

    Not identical but the situation with the band and how the brothers Robinson looked at it seems similar to Anne and Nancy Wilson of HEART!

  • @jackstraw6760
    @jackstraw6760 Před rokem +2

    As a Deadhead since June 1986 I was shocked by John Mayer playing guitar for The Dead. Then I heard him play and was impressed. Guy's like Chris Robinson or Henry Rollins are always angry and ripping others.

  • @redbarchetta8782
    @redbarchetta8782 Před 2 měsíci

    Egos.

  • @carylazar
    @carylazar Před 6 měsíci +1

    I like Steve Gorman always did. I love The Black Crowes but it’s unfortunate that the Robinson brothers egos damaged things in that band with other members too.

  • @renemarrero6523
    @renemarrero6523 Před rokem

    To bad they can’t get along there a very good band