SHAMAN in WotLK Classic: Was It Any Good Though?
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Todays episode features WoW's totem dropping thunder gods - the Shaman. A hugely popular class in TBC, will this carry over to WotLK Classic at all?
Let's find out in: SHAMAN in WotLK Classic: Was It Any Good Though?
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
3:03 - The Shaman
3:55 - What's New Baseline?
8:15 - Elemental Talent Changes | PvE
10:30 - Enhancement Talent Changes | PvE
14:23 - Restoration Talent Changes | PvE
16:00 - How Do We Expect The Shaman To Perform In PvE Overall?
17:42 - Shaman in WotLK Arena | PvP (Enhancement, Resto, Elemental)
23:15 - Shaman Tier Sets
27:37 - Conclusion
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I wouldnt even if i got payed to do it.
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@@nektardymski6025 definitely, keep them out of the video and put them in the description
One other great thing about Shaman in Wrath is that at level 20 Shaman can learn Water Shield, making leveling as Elemental and Resto far easier. And at level 30 once you complete your Wind Totem quest you can turn the totem reagents into a Relic to save up bag space as soon as possible. Along with the fusion of some spells and totems, Shaman leveling is far better now.
May I get a moment of silence to honor our fallen brother,
Old Windfury Totem
2019 - 2022
Gave extra autos and extra brovado
- you will be missed friend
My mana bar definitely won't miss twisting that damn thing, especially with ele subspec instead of resto lol
Also 2004-2010
Personally I'm a big fan of the skirt/kilt look for Shamans, particularly Elemental and Restoration (not so much for Enhancement, it looks a bit impractical for them). It fits the whole "armoured magic user" vibe really nicely.
Plus skirts are pretty cool by themselves :P
@@vantusk6530 That too ^^
i cant imagine my shaman without the wole kilt look it's really what i dig
i prefer the "helmint crab/old wise" vibe with shamans, ie: t10 normal,no shoulders,no helmet,green axe+shield from TOGC is my favourite mog for pve heal spec
Terrible for enhancement
And we complete the journey. Thank you for this series. You were huge in bringing me into classic years ago
Wow, whoever the editor and animator you’ve got to help is amazing. Well done!!
I think this series intro is so dope I don’t even skip. Keep it going willie
Good to see more Wille content
Excellent video once again! Rolled a shaman in Classic, kept maining him in TBC and will definitely main him in Wrath!
Big production jump for this video. Great stuff man keep it up.
About the spell-hance: During a portion of WoTLK OG beta Lava Burst was instant from maelstrom weapon. This actually made the spell damage fist weapon along with focusing on spell damage over melee VERY strong for enhance until Lava Burst was removed from the maelstrom pool.
Spellhance is just strong as regular enh while doing more aoe. But its not a resto and therefore nobody wants you.
Spellhance for t7/8 is still better then enhance even with 3.3.5 talent changes and itemization
@@Sarum9nich No, spellhance is stronger in earlier tiers since spells have a lot of flat damage but don't scale as well as auto attacks in wrath. So in later tiers normal enhance will overtake spellhance in dmg, on pservers this tipping point has been t9.
@@WallaWillie Spellhance was never about outperforming enhancement. It was about averaging it out. Instead of putting a good portion of your damage behind windfury procs. Which you could run real hot and proc it off the internal cooldown. Or you could get unlucky and see nothing happen for a minute straight. Meanwhile Spellhance is getting the consistent increase to damage through more spell damage and flametongue procs and other spell effects. Idc if spellhance doesn't have the melee burst damage of enhancement. I want the consistency it brings. Not to mention, having dual spec elemental/spellhance is a LOT easier to gear than elemental/enhancement.
new on the channel, great explanation, very mind opening for the future of wowclassic. Thank you!
in TBC i was rolling resto shaman in arena, thanks to you, i believe im going to rotate to elemental
Don’t even know why I watch it blizzard is dead to me, but your voice is just so relaxing
maaan.. enhancement was SO fun in WotLk. Last time I just loved playing my main was back then. pvp was a blast
Great series. Shaman was one of my off night projects. Ended up raiding everything earning all the titles with several raid teams and played shaman exclusively for BL back then. I really enjoyed raiding as resto. I've been eyeballing focusing all my attention this time around as shaman. The question is will I find a new group that will want another sham.
Kk
I don’t know why but dropping multiple totems at once is so cool. Always added to the fun of the class.
It is an unnecessary time sink. It’s not cool though, just practical
yeah, it was so satisfying! lol
I always liked the visual of casting with 4 totems around me.
@@Pupperino7773 Nah its pretty cool.
Best thing about the shamanistic focus change, is that the proc sound being removed. I nearly went deaf in TBC hearing that proc every 2 seconds.
Boooo that was so fun when it procced a billion times in sunwell and you knew you were pumping haha
Nooo really? That's one of my favorite things playing enhance, it's so satisfying..
You can just go into the game files and mute the sound on your client
Love it like winning the slot machine
these videos are the best! i'm more excited for these than for the EP lol
Resto shaman can heal heroics without casting a heal in wrath. Healing stream can heal over 600 per second. AND stacks endlessly.
damn wille really stepping up the quality. love it!
Troll enhancement is the most fun melee class in the game, it is also very diversive in the pvp too.
great video- cant wait to see the priest and paladin videos
My fav serios for Wotlk
Ty Willie for the work and effort
when we killed arthas on heroic 25man, resto shaman(he was also gladiator every season) was our top healer. shamans chain heal is pretty vital for heroic endgame content
shaman is my main since tbc and i absolutely loved it! This video gave me so much nostalgia, great job bro !
Same tbc to tbc classic
You and me both my fine friend. Shaman is bad ass and no one can tell me otherwise.
I can't see myself playing any other class than shaman lol, it is by far my favorite class. Everything about them is just amazing! My only wish about shaman is more frost abilities, i think that would be cool.
Go play a fuckin mage then. Shammy dont need no shit frost abilities, or play a garbage DK.
@@draggy76
Lol
Oh, which shaman abilities are your favourite?
Went from playing mage and kinda having some struggles to find a good balance in BC to rerolling a shammy for Wrath and it was night n day. The best time I had playing wow.
the production is on point bro
That Storm Peak Soundtrack at the end always gives me the chills even after 13 years...
Love these vids, well done!
I have mained shaman since early wrath, absolutely love healing on it and elemental does good dps.
amazing video content and editing as always
That’s some
amazing production!! N ❤
Really appreciate these in depth breakdowns of the changes 👍
The greatest class in all of WoW that never gets love. Like a 4th tank spec, or Swords for Enhancement Shamans.
Tank still works, it just takes a bit of legwork as always. Would have been great to get dedicated tanking support, though, instead of just getting around the riddle that is Blizzard's game design to *make* it work.
@Alexander Nikolov that's basically what I said yeah :^)
@@Kamikazeman1234 there's no riddle it doesn't work
@@jamesbyrd3740 ok hater
Worth pointing out that for people mostly focusing on 10 man content then enhancement is really good as it brings tons of buffs for a single class.
Exactly. Shamans on a whole can patch up those 10man groups with their auras. Important point to make.
Let's be honest, you can bring 5 shamans to Naxx 25 and probably toc25 too without having issues. Shaman is a decent heal and dmg throughout the expansion, doing a pretty solid mid to high dps, no need to think they are bad now, feel free to take them for your raids.
notice he didnt say icc, because shaman suck
No, their dps is rock bottom and heal shaman is bad too, at most you can bring 2 shamans, spellhance spec is way better than the rest, but most people wont use it for loot issues. Tho if you are not aiming for achivements or heroic do whatever you want.
elemental shaman starts as a viable DD in T7 & maybe T8. scaling is really terrible though
@@lorenzousandoval9130 I didn't mention HC, but still, Wotlk has easy raids, people bring the best dps to do it fast, not because it would be too hard, the exception is probably ulduar hard mode and icc10-25 hc. Btw I'm gonna rock the raids as resto sham and destroy arenas as elly 👌
@@ImFirstBlood Live the dream bro, good thing to play and enjoy the Game doing whatev we want haha
I probably won't play shaman this time tho, used to do enha last time I played wotlk.
Your intros got really cool, great stuff
you deserve a lot more likes wille. the script, research and editing ( accents with saber in AE alone and other tools is quite taxing on processing power). thank you. i enjoy your vids.
24:15 i dont tend to like skirts on any class,except for pve tmogs,but that ulduar 10's t8 green recolor that uses pants is the best looking set for shamans period. look it up
Getting elite gear and doing 1vX world pvp on elemental shaman in the second half of WOTLK was the most fun i ever had in wow
Yeah I played ele main in a progression guild and I was like top 3 most the time, and pvp was great.
lets go!!!!!! Finally my class!!!!
The walls on retail eye of the storm are only in the rated battleground version! It's still all open on the normal one.
While I was a lock at heart, my enhance was probably the most fun. Maybe that came from squashing roques in retribution for having to fight them with a lock.
I plan on continuing in wotlk on my ele shaman. I've also been the main ele in our guild for 5 or so months now. So they'll have to deal with it lol.
Played shaman in WoTLK the first time around, and with the right gear you become a healing monster in ICC. There's the trinkets, the weapon, the set bonus from T10, the Glyph to make Chain Heal better, Earthliving weapon, the buff from riptide...
Basically they all stack, and there's the "Chance on direct healing spell" stuff for the mace "Trauma" and the trinkets "Glowing Twilight Scale" and "Althor's Abacus" that get 4 chances to proc off every chain heal, and in raid content you can absolutely pump HPS, and the best part is you just focus heals on the tank, and let chain heal hit the melee group, and then anyone within 10 yards of those guys end up covered in hots the entire fight. There were times where my screen would just be a sea of green numbers popping up from damn near everyone in the raid.
I didn't play the other healing classes in WoTLK and by the time I played them, all this gear was obsolete, but this setup was God Tier on my shaman.
Yeah, I've healed before on Shaman but I honestly hate grouping unless I have too (unless my wife wants to log on as well) and found them to do a pretty good job overall but enh/ele hybrid is my favorite way to play personally.
I look forward to these videos. Great job WillE!
I remember rolling an ele shaman in wrath (the original) as my first character because I saw some random CZcamsr who made compilations of lava burst crita. It made it look sooo cool... Then I actually played and it was fun but no where near as fun as the video made it look. I rolled rogue in cata and haven't gone back even after long breaks here and there.
By cool you mean gay. That's why you play rogue. 100x gayer character to play.
@@griffen5748 man you really got me buddy.
Love the series so far. First class in the series I plan to play in Wrath. Probs going Enhance in PvE and Ele in PvP, I have high hopes for Spellhance sounds like a lot of fun.
The 4 set (10% bonus crit damage on lava burst) is pretty much baseline, as Lava Burst will always crit if you're hitting somebody with flameshock on them
Shaman is top tier in terms of fun. The toolkit is massive, you are the closest thing to a true hybrid at all times, the new talents really feed into hybrid playstyle and you still have most the insane totems of classic before they all got Thanos snap hyperbalanced in Cata.
Yeah, as a former altaholic for years and years in WoW I eventually got a Shaman past level 20 (48 currently) and I've had a good time with it. You can pretty much do everything besides tank dungeons but I couldn't care less because I play solo 100% of the time unless my wife is playing. Tried dungeons but I honestly can't stand playing with random people and not really interested in raiding whatsoever (did raiding back in Vanilla-TBC and found it to take too long as my wife and I have two children).
I get bored of doing one playstyle so I generally add a bit into each tree, the talents that are universal for the most part and it's worked great. Sure, I'll never be the best at anything but at least I can do everything for the most part without changing characters.
@@Travybear1989 you can def tank 5 mans lol
Ive played 6 different classes at lvl 80. The only class i always come back is shaman.
My GM really pushed for magic hands in Ulduar. Shout out Sequence.
Shaman is the best pick if you want the most fun class with great meme potential while also being free kill for almost every class in pvp.
not like thundercleave is one of the best comps in arena or anything.
i played a pvp resto shaman in cata, got battleground resilience BiS, so i'll be leveling one to 80 in wrath so i'm maxed and ready to jump right into cata classic once cara classic comes out. btw, do you have a series on "Leveling as a ____ in Wrath Classic: Was it Any Good Though?" i'd def love to see it!!! love the content man.
In icc I was too melee dps on tank and spank bosses as enhance, but the rotation is hard.
I remember watching an OLD video of some dude playing his geared out elemental shaman at the end of wrath just oneshotting everyone left to right in pvp. Have to see if I can find that video again. Think he with the damage buff in warsong crited for 24k with one lava burst or something insane like that
ty for the vid
I leveled a shaman alt during wotlk just so I could one-shot people as elemental in BGs lol. Was so much fun sitting at the back one shotting people with a 3 button rotation. And riding in on a mount just to push everyone off cliffs haha.
Tried boomkin as well but didn't feel as epic. The cast times were kind of long on the big boom spell. The burst damage from ele shamans felt so good in wotlk pvp and the whole rotation was super fast.
Back in the day, as an ele I was constantly at the top of the meters. Now.... I was flooded with gear being the only mail caster in the raid, but also top performing a lot as well. I believe ele can and will top many meters, as long as the player is good. But also, in dungeons, ele is a monster of a class.
Hope u like RSham lol. With the way that raids will be min maxed that’s the only viable shaman in 25m.
@@mrhouse9368 If youre going for a min/max race sure. But the content is easy enough with a variety of raid combos.
Mained Resto shaman during Wrath, was fun.
Hey, that's me at 19:27 :) How unexpected to be watching this then see my own footage from an 11 year old video.
rolling ele shaman on fresh, cant wait!!
Your awesome dude and awesome video be safe out there big fan of world of warcaf
Beast cleave with the epic global of Venruki back in the day
Shaman has always been a class favourite of mine. The style and flavour of mastering the elements like Thrall (the fucking demigod) is just too good. All the specs feel great and pvp wise totems are quite frankly OP when used right. You have similar utility to a sub rouge while having the punch of a caster and the defence of a melee.
I genuinely believe if it were not for the introduction of death knight, shaman wouldve been the clear and cut best class outside of tanking and in pvp wouldve been almost entirely uncontested. Its thier only truly bad match up where no matter what spec or style, you will almost certainly lose against a competent DK
The first weapon frim ICC turns enhance from a struggle to keep up to competing for top of the charts.
I remember being salty as at ele shams as an enhance in WotLK, especially in PvP haha. I was definitely the token shaman in my guild and sometimes it felt like I was the token enhance for my server even.
I love these WillE I want to see Paladin soon.
I second that :D Cant wait for the video on my main :D
resto shamans gonna pump heals, all the nerds who are gassing up pallies will soon learn
Only a nerd would know that
@@raptorak1 no u
Chainheal spam
1yr later and paladin is on top everywhere…
@@brettfisher7535 I outheal holy pallies pretty regularly in toc 50/50 runs and ulduar hardmodes. Pretty much every fight besides anub because I'm not allowed to use my best heal.... other than that, I outperform holy pallies every week. And it's only gonna get better in ICC as I exceed 1000 haste :)
Do the top guilds build their entire healing roster around holy pallies and give them every advantage? You bet! Are you in one of those top guilds? Probably not
Hopefully you do mage soon, seeing what all the other classes get, I am questioning my decision to play mage in wrath...
It's basically: Arcane in to Fire in PVE, Frost for PVP(mostly).
spell haste is huge for the raid. enhancement shaman has top 5 dps at elast on every fight. very versityle dmg profile. so it has an guranteed raidspot in every tier. resto and ele not so much
The main reason I will play/make an Enha is to see NPCs disappear within Puppies+Hero duration in ToGC Arena - I-Win-Button for real!
The thrills! :D
Gimme gimme that hunter episode
Spellhence is gonna be insane in classic tho like pserver
Hoping for Priest soon!
I liked enhancement, I prefer the Wrath of the Lion king shaman over the burning crusade shaman. Despite getting into groups and raids was more of a chore.
I felt like I could actually do something by myself or contribute to raid performance besides healing.
Lmao, wrath of the lion king
Wrath of the Lion King would be a pretty cool expansion tbh
Lion? Im dead
I'm pretty sure I'm going to level this class and a warlock for end game
23:32 it's the same thing, lavaburst always crits
ooooooof WillE took that Raid advertising money. I wish I also had no scruples.
the totem preset is quality of life but its also a big skill nerf, wow sham seems so strong in pvp
Skill nerf seems a little misguided?
You still have all of your important totems to place as and when you need them.
Putting some preparation and memorisation into the presets will reward the shaman with better spell usage and mana efficiency. Not doing so could potentially waste a lot of mana or waste much more casting time replacing totems with better positioning.
As the totem durations will be synced you can much more efficiently time totemic recall to get the full mana efficiency or mean that you’re not just standing there for 5 seconds refreshing buffs at key output momemts
@@ddfb494355 all true im jst saying preset totem make it easier fundamentally. big skill cap with totems in vanilla and bc pvp.
This video: willie saying shamans don't underperform while making it clear that they do indeed underperform.
Aww yeah my boy Shaman
Spellhance will start to shine once TOC drops. Getting Reign of Misery is a must for that spec to work, the thing is back in wrath you could equip both the normal and heroic version. which i believe will be removed. Those 2 trinkets, with 2 very fast spell weapons and flametongue on both are the main things that make that spec work. With only one Reign of Misery im fairly sure that normal enhance will be better
im pretty sure there is no one-hand spell weapon,
all are main hand and cant be equipped in offhand
Reign of Misery is TBC main hand mace
I used thunderstorm to blast horde players out of naxxramas and on to the ground below dying from fall damage if they dared just stand there outside the entrence. :) it was very fun.
used to love doing that too. untill i forgot that i had it glyphed to not knock back and had a hordie do it back to me.
TY!
enhancement lost 2h burst that helped them work well in pvp skirmishing
What do you reckon will be the "shaman of tbc" in wrath in terms of class demand? I think shammy demand will sustain as you want bloodlust in 5s,10s,25s. The excess will reroll to dks/pallies or already has rerolled to pally. It's incredible the amount of pallies nowadays.
DKs surely.
Probably paladin. All 3 specs are really good at their respective roles.
When did Healing Rain become a spell? I can't find which xpac. Thanks.
not only they are the single class that brings lust but also 5% spell haste which is also pretty big
Mages have time warp in wrath, don’t they?
@@Augrills they very much don't
@@funkenjoyer weird, I thought that’s when they got it.
Prepare for a lot of "Can you go resto?", Shamans.
Shaman during ICC was op. I was always the top healer, and could solo heal some of the bosses.
A WillE video about the class I've been playing since Vanilla AND it's 30min? Yas pls
I felt EXACTLY the same way. Got in my car and opened CZcams for the ride home (yes yes I know…) and saw 30 minute video about my class I’ve played since 2004. I sat in my driveway and finished it before even going inside. Keep it up WillE
Warrior next please!
I know there's been a lot of videos saying resto shaman is a bad candidate for Valanyr, but with the ICC set bonuses it's absolutely INSANE. Some people have even solo healed Heroic Lich king with it.
Every healer can solo heal LK with enough gear and raid dps. Paladins benefit the most by far from valanyr. The thing allowing healers to solo heal this fight are rets and shadow priests. The shadow/s will also use shields. It's not really a solo heal at all when the solo healer isn't actually doing 100% of the healing... More like 40-60% in these "solo" fights. Also, this is on warmane and warmane is not a totally accurate representation of how classic wotlk will be.
As much as I loved Shaman in Wrath, the amount of people who already have one level 70 and want to take it into Wrath despite the demand drop will see, however, makes me think it will be one of the hardest classes to get a raid spot with, especially considering that aside from the raid utility a single of each spec can bring, they don't really perform that spectacularly, so stacking them makes no sense.
I raided as a shaman in original Wrath. But of course it was different in those days. People didn't care as much about min/maxing. I don't think I'll push my luck this time.
@@jimmym3352maybe not as much class wise, but I remember EVERY single “advertisement” back in wrath being along the lines of “LFM link GS and Achie”
wonder how it will be for FRESH
I'm sure each shaman spec has its advantages.. Especially enh having improved totems for melee that dk can't give.
@@courtesan8784 I'd imagine for fresh it'd be alot easier to roll one. While servers moving from TBC will have a hard time fielding all the Shamans even with people re-rolling a lot of people don't wanna put in the effort to re-level again so they will just stick with their set of classes they already have. Fresh will be spammed with fotm classes. Likely will have DK's, Pallies, Locks, Mages, Warriors, etc. BUT BUT BUT in Wotlk you're not just vs your own class there are a few classes that overlap on all the buffs for the most part.
If your raid has a Frost DK and a blood DK or a Blood/Frost Hybird tank you might not find spot in their raid simply because they cover all your buffs as Enhancement and Resto will cover the other ones. Like Spell haste and MP5.
I'm still trying to decide if I want to main an elly shammy or a boomkin.
In my opinion the removal of fire nova was horrible for shamans pvp-wise.
Before there were a talent in elemental tree with a 2s stun if the target were hit by fire nova totem. It was just one of those extra bit of CC lost.
Will, what is this shaman set on the video?
I remember leveling my shaman to 80 and the instant I got the Level 80 achievement I got an invite from my guild m8s to go directly to ICC 25 man. They needed one more shaman for the slimes fights just because the anti venom - purify totems.
Yes. That night I became just a glorified totem.
Thats what i hate about shaman lol youre just a buff bot.
When people talk about you, theyre actually talking about the totems