School Police: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2022
- In the wake of the mass shooting in Uvalde, John Oliver discusses the push for more police in schools and whether they are the answer to our school safety issues, or a new problem altogether.
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When I was in high school our SRO tricked a kid into bumming him a cigarette, kid got charged and suspended. At the time it seemed funny that the kid was so dumb but looking back now its insane that there was a cop in our schools tricking kids, not even dangerous or violent kids, into incriminating themselves. The thought that the SRO was intended to be there to protect the children and was instead giving them criminal records is sickening.
Wow omg lol
Our SRO was basically an attack dog for the principal and teachers. I never liked or trusted them
I mean that kid wouldn’t have a criminal record for that anyways. It’s a status offense.
SROs will CONSTANTLY try that shit. It's basically their only form of entertainment.
@@Hoodooboiiii Still a person that will never again trust the police.
Funny how there’s always money to harden security at school but never enough when it comes to funding actual teaching and growth
Right?
Except this isn't true.
The US spends more on education than anyone else.
We spend more and more on education all the time, and yet our people keep decreasing in scholastic ability.
@@khatdubell You ever been to a small town school? We got a $2.5 million dollar grant for our school, which went to a new football field and teacher's lounge while our textbooks were a decade out of date and the food was still atrocious.
@@travisanderson77 I graduated in 2019 and my history textbook was from 2001, which was before some of my classmates were born
@@khatdubell Look into the breakdown of how that money is spent. Roughly half of all school employees are not teachers.
“Kids deserve to be annoying without being arrested” might be the most truthful, REAL and IMPORTANT sentence said out loud on any medium outlet EVER!!
What about a small or a large outlet?
Unfortunately, there are too many teachers in the US who have very little to no ability to deal with such behaviour.
@@bas_ee what do you call a midget psychic that escapes jail? .... a small medium at large.
@@denelson83 In my experience (student teacher in Germany) it all comes down to the quality of your training and education as a teacher.
You can be the best student of your subject science yourself but still struggle in a class room, when confronted with children and reality.
Didactics and pedagogy/psychology need to be taken very seriuos during the training of teachers - here in Germany, some universities do that, others still do it the old way and train jung scientists who have no clue how to interact with children.
@@denelson83 Unfortunately, lack of consequences for misbehavior ensure disorder. When the only legal way a teacher can control a misbehaving student is by calling a cop they'll do so out of self-defense. Beats getting sued (any touch is considered assault).
John saying "Oh no my good Bitch" is the greatest thing I've ever heard
Do you have a time stamp?
@@rosalinenixon923 16:54
@@psyclops973 Thank you (ㅅ´ ˘ `)
Republicans: “It’s not a gun problem, it’s a mental health problem”
Us: “Okay, can we at least have more money for mental health programs and intervention?”
Republicans: “No, that’s socialism”
Anything that benefits everyone without lining their goddamn pockets they vote against. I can’t wait til this fossils die and are replaced
Hehehehe...
"Can we not let people who have mental health issues buy guns?"
"NO! That's unconstitutional!" *
(This actually happened)
Democrats are just as reluctant to fund these programs and republicans. Even with a democratic majority in the house and executive branch and several parts of the country, they put more money into police. This state is useless and antithetical to social equality and justice.
Duh, disabled children should just pull themselves up by their bootstraps, get a job, make money and get therapy. That way they can go to elementary school and know how to not get bodyslammed by the police.
As someone from Europe it’s absolutely baffling to me that in the US there are a) so many school shootings to the point that b) you have police officers at school. It’s like watching a story from a parallel universe where ducks are horses and horses are ducks.
How do i move there
@@TheGayestAspen emigration.
It's worse than you think.
The school police officer subbed in one of our classes because they couldn’t find an actual teacher. To this day that is the best class I have ever taken.
Edit* holy shit, I had to edit it because i said “my” school police officer. Y’all this isn’t English 101, don’t look for deeper meanings in it. I wrote it at 1:00am, chill.
@@TheGayestAspen are you high? do you really wanna move in a place with horse sized ducks? HORSE SIZED DUCKS!!!!!!
unless you meant Europe, in that case I have no clue
My son was traumatized by an SRO in high school and NEVER went back. My son went to his counselor because he was depressed and the SRO IMMEDIATELY 51/50'd him even though.he said he wasn't thinking of harming himself. Our local hospital was full, so they took him to one an hour away without my knowledge. I didn't know anything was wrong until he called me from the hospital. Since it was a mandatory 72 HR hold, the hospital had a psychiatrist come from an hour away to evaluate him because the staff didn't think he needed to be there, but a psychiatrist had to sign off on it. Since it was a Friday, my son would have had to spend 3 days in an ER for no reason if the hospital hadn't been so kind to get someone to release him early. One bad call from an SRO scared my teen from trying to seek help and he stayed home schooled the rest of the year. We got him the help he needed for his depression, including seeing a psychiatrist. He is good now, but he still has panic attacks around authority figures and he is now 20.
That is absolutely heartbreaking to read. Poor guy 😢!
He reached out for help for a thoroughly miserable condition, which I went through myself. And he got arrested for it?!!! I was ready to end it when I was depressed.
If I was arrested for it, I don't know, I may well have done.
I've got the uppermost respect for your son! He's got more strength that you realise!
This generation gets "traumatized" for breakfast.
@@user-io2ym6gm8z Why do you act like her son was traumatised by some minor BS?
Unless, of course, you are one of those fucktards who think we should be okay being abused by the authorities.
Aside from everything else, that sounds like a massive waste of resources. There are people who actually need help and they are wasting resources to satisfy frivolous claims from snowflake cops.
@@ianbattles7290 Very true!
I graduated in 2016, and my high school had ‘campus police’. They would generally stand at corners not looking at any of us, just muttering into walkie-talkies, and I couldn’t tell you a single one of their names- but I’ll never forget when one of the ‘problem kids’ got upset about getting a detention, and the teacher called the campus police, who arrested her in the middle of class. She clearly had something going on but nobody ever seemed concerned about why a student might constantly be yelling and starting fights.
And for the record, I had classes with three white ‘problem kids’, and never saw the teachers call campus police on any of them.
Who TF calls police on a child throwing a temper tantrum??? USA, land of the free...
thats basically the core of "defund the police" and putting the money toward educating teachers & (mental)healthcare for everyone!
My experience is the opposite. Pretty much all problem kids in my class were black girls, and campus police would do nothing about them, but would get called on white boys for doing nothing.
I graduated in 1996. We didn't have police in the schools. No one seemed to feel the need. Perhaps we never thought of this as a solution to anything. Of course people weren't shooting up schools. Funny how there were guns everywhere and there weren't school shootings.
i see your point. but i think too much is expected of teachers. they should not be required to be counsellors as well. their job is just to teach. do american schools not have any mental health professionals available?
That woman wasn't stalling for time, she was deciding if telling the truth was worth destroying her career.
So, errr, stalling for time?
Because careful consideration before answering is beyond the realm of possibility?
No, thinking is what she did
@@Slaanash
That’s not stalling, since… she didn’t stall for anything.
She was thinking about what she was going to say, then said it. If she was stalling for time she wouldn’t have said the thing that would have made it not worth stalling for!
Well then, I'm glad that she chose to be honest
As a foreigner, having armed officers in campus and students acknowledging them so casually is extremely disturbing
Better that than to be shot I guess
It truly is normal here has been a long time. I graduated '09, my school had two full time officers there. They had their own office, basically a little miniature police station. It had a detainment room in it. Bullet proof glass for their window looking out on the school. It was rather nondescript but oh yeah. A male cop and a female cop to do searches appropriately of course. Both armed with a taser, a gun, pepper spray. And it's a pretty complicated issue. They were mostly fair never arrested anyone over anything ridiculous that I recall but I do remember them getting involved in legit stuff. Fights, gang fights, drugs etc. Honestly sometimes it'd be surprising the stuff they DIDN'T step in over and left it to the school to handle. I dunno.
I went to high school in a small-ish town, and not only did we have an armed SRO, but, that SRO did double duty as a member of the SWAT team. There were mornings where you would see him, at the school, in his SWAT gear because he was coming from a raid.
Denmark: We once had two officers on school grounds while I was there. Once. They weren’t carrying weapons or cuffs, and were there to talk about heroin addiction.
Honestly I don’t even think they were the right ones for that job either, but at least it made an impression.
Hear me out.
Sounds like a POLICE STATE.
And finally...
America is like this to give White people JOB with IMMEDIATE AUTHORITY.
And arresting Minority students will put Criminal Rap sheet on them disallowing them to further any Fair and Equal means as their WHITE classmates are offered.
Do you not see the whole process of this?
SCHOOL TO JAIL PIPELINE.
Literally having cops patrol rounds in school as if its prison.
The Visual aesthetics of that can be traumatizing to an already traumatized minorities.
My school officer was arrested a few years after I graduated for pedophilia so... That was great
I kinda wondered about that one too...
Happens often! Happened at my high school too after 7 victims came forward and it still took over a year to take him job 🙃
An SRO was busted here for having an inappropriate relationship with a 13 yr old girl. A few years ago one was caught having sex with a student in the football field bleachers. They aren't sending their best that's for sure.
If a cop gets arrested they were really, really obvious about doing a really, really bad thing *and* really, really bad at covering their tracks.
I was mercilessly bullied in school-particularly in Middle School in the hallway & my Art Class. This occurred EVERY day; I finally made the bad judgment mistake by bringing a jackknife to Art class, one of the bullies went into my bag, found the knife, ANNOUNCED what I’d done-and my “weapon” was confiscated. Shortly thereafter, the Assistant Principal summoned me to his office. I wasn’t disciplined, someone on faculty knew my intention was to try & protect myself and he just wanted to talk to me. He did-and did so very gently. He let me know that HE knew sth was going on, he was watching-and that I should come to him instead. The bullying lessened (didn’t stop) but I was grateful for his efforts
Had my heart in my mouth while reading this. Just waiting for the inevitable twist.
Glad it never came. Also grateful for that Assistant Principal. Teachers are simply the best.
@@MoneyGist you became that emotionally invested in some stranger's made up story? No wonder our civilization is in decline, its men are weak! Bring back initiation rituals. On your 12th birthday you perform cannibalism of a captured enemy villager.
It’s one of the reasons I BECAME a high school teacher many years later. I was a foreign language teacher but I also worked with at-risk children. Boku Hendrickson truly taught me the value of ALL children and I am grateful for him.
Oh & btw: my local school district recently forced the principal of the high school to resign due to safety issues. They are discussing the insertion of SROs. This school district, the one where I graduated in 1988, is NOT a high crime area NOR is it a rural, hunting area (e.g., Oxford, Michigan) with loads of gun rights activists. It’s total bullshit to not address the real issues needed. Also: where the HELL are the parent volunteers?
If the asst principal knew something was happening, why didn't they do something about it?
At my high school our SRO would stand in front of the stairs to confiscate food people were carrying and throw it away in the morning because people weren't supposed to have food outside of the cafeteria. I grew up poor, so I qualified for free breakfast and lunch - without it I couldn't eat on any given school day. But I also lived rurally and my bus was often late, arriving literally right before the bell rang. I would run and grab food and an orange juice from the cafeteria and try to book it to bio, eating on the way, and she started standing at the staircase I had to take to get there. Every. Morning. Because preventing a potential mess for the janitors was more important than children being fed. I learned quickly though. I started only choosing bagels in the morning, which came with a sealed container of cream cheese, so I could stuff them in my backpack before I turned the corner to the stairs. She would try to stop me, I'd hold up my empty hands to show her I had no food then race up the stairs and eat in class. I'm really thankful Mr. Fabian, my bio teacher, didn't care that I ate in class, because that would have been a long semester of going hungry. I graduated 11 years ago and I still think about it all the time.
Sorry to hear that I hope the food situation is better for you now. I can relate to that story it's extremely common where I live rn and our school forbids taking the food home with you or taking it to class.
I'm from useless , "ahem" Euless tx...the schools are terrible. at least when I was growing up. they lack empathy and equality. it's more, you're minority and liability and such. false accusations, no anti bully conferences or zero tolerance for anything that disrupts the children's rights. I almost quit school, there's still a few good teachers out there who care and don't give a shit about their pay or benefits, the kids come first in public schools.. it's pretty much computers and online schooling around here now. I have no idea how it's being run here anymore, except high level security and unsympathetic profiling of the lower class in this district. God help us, responsibly is looked down on and hardly exercised for the well being of ALL individuals is what the policies show anymore. keep your eyes open everyone..
High school and you didn't know the government must compensate you when they take your property?
Not only did government busing cause your problem, it made the children FAT. You walk 25+ miles a week carrying heavy books you get EXERCISE.
Thank You for your comment, I hate that you had to be crafty just to eat the food you had a right to that sucks, I wish more “officials” like that school cop had sensible compassion.
That is sad 😔
Officers aren't there to make anything safer. They're there so if something terrible happens, the school district is not blamed. It's not the students' line of defense, it's the district's.
FINALLY someone states the painful truth about the real purpose of SRO's. Thank you for that succinct truth...
This seems very true sir.
That’s perfectly stated. It’s about CYA. Great insight.
So, they hire tubs of lard who would be so out of breath and doubled over when they got there that nothing would get done... Don't think so...
Well said
You know that uneasy feeling you get around cops, like when one follows you for a few blocks while driving, or really whenever someone in a flak jacket carrying a gun is out in public, that’s great for creating a learning environment
It's true though, you quickly learn that you don't like cops, lol
“I just thought someone would look at it and think ‘this is so cool- a legand was here’” just broke me.
I was suspended from school for calling our SRO a "dirty pig" after he came into the girl's bathroom while we were changing for gym class unannounced. Two stalls had no doors and an entire class was in there getting changed. But I was the one who deserved to be detained and suspended. Makes sense.
This is garbage and Im sorry you had to deal with that! Its absolutely despicable and noone should have to go through that. He IS a dirty fucking pig and you were correct in saying so!
How is this allowed???? Was the SRO male?? Makes absolutely no sense at all. Men should never be allowed in gender specific bathrooms or changing rooms under any circumstances, both to protect the girls and the SRO from likely trouble.
Yeah. Cops are infallible and children are expendable. Until they pay taxes, they're worthless. Pro life
Terrible. Somebody should have sued.
Maybe the expected response was to do a lapdance or blow him?
This is disgusting.
My son was handcuffed and shoved into a cop car for running through the sprinklers. I had to go down there and go full Karen on them for having the sprinklers on during school in the first place.
He. Was. NINE
Yeah you might just be a Karen and your bad Karen parenting made your kid fo shitty things and face consequences when it should have been you in the cop car. Other people's kids I guess.
@matt yes. They're a kid. A fucking kid
@matt Who should give a bloody shit if even an adult runs through sprinklers?
This is so nuts that the only way I can make senses of it is that he set the sprinklers up inside
How does anyone get arrested for running through sprinklers?
@@SilverMe2004 they do it for anything..unfortunately americans are s up cop culture arse they cant see straight to the blue line thats taken over their flag
Having police officers in schools on a regular basis is just another thing that seems batshit insane to lot of people outside America. I mean... Cops patrolling in schools harassing disabled and POC kids, this is some high level dystopian stuff here.
"high level dystopian stuff" yep, america
@@Fabzil land of the uncivilized
I am autistic and was arrested in 6th grade by an sro. It destroyed my whole families life not just mine, my parents divorced and moved over halfway across the country so I didn't go to jail for not standing in line for a substitute, ruined my intellectual development lost all my special classes and my scholarship to college I had won as a part of a mensa contest I ended up dropping out. Schools don't need cops kids don't need cops.
Where did you go to school if you don’t mind me asking? Thank you for being brave to share. Horrible what they did!
@@she_is_sherri1492 dudes clearly lying and wanting attention. All they are doing is going duhh cops bad and trying to sound like he was the innocent victim when he probably did something far worst
@@wolftitanreading5308did you even fucking watch the video? Who are you to assume the validity of his story?
@@wolftitanreading5308ou got proof that he's lying? Are there any inconsistencies or glaring issues with his story?
People lie on the internet all the time, but you shouldn't just discredit every account you see, even if you personally think they're lying you don't have to go out of your way to act like it's the obvious truth.
@@lays5277 do you proof he's telling the truth? The thing is people lie all the time and a sad story is easy it catches suckers all the time
American gun nuts be like: "I'm against government oversight and tyranny, which is why I want an armed government officer in every school in the country."
American Democrats be like: "I'm for defunding police but I'm not going to stop having 20 guards with guns around me and my family at all times. If you have a problem, call 911."
@@funveeable are you talking about like secret service?
Politicians kinda need them cuz they are a face fire things ppl deeply hate and want to assassinate.
Normal ppl don't need protection. In fact most ppl as naturally afraid when they see someone with a gun, cuz it's a device with the express purpose of killing. And you have no idea of that person will try to hurt you with it. So all you know is they have a device they're for committing harm and are currently not using it. That doesn't mean they won't
@@funveeable Your whataboutism doesn't make his argument less valid. Better luck next time, reactionnary.
Yeah and now females do not get to decide over their own body either, and next up is plan B pills and birth control pills.
Sorry, but the US seems more and more like a third world country to me.
@@Game_Hero so what? I have a gun and my police are funded. I fear nothing at this point. Ask the people of San Francisco who seem to enjoy crime whether or not they agree with what's happening there.
In fairness to Laura Garnette, after hearing that question she was thinking, “If I answer this honestly am I going to get fired?“ It can take you a few seconds to decide what you’re going to do. It is to her credit that, after weighing the possibilities, she gave an honest answer.
Well maybe she should be fired then
For what, honesty?
@@ericvicaria8648 He's probably a Republican. Honesty is a crime to them.
Yes honesty, when she is inevitably terminated from her position, her boss will say yes you were honest And correct, but you're not supposed to say it on camera. Obviously. Anybody in any position that works for someone else understands they better be careful what they say on camera. Although she was absolutely correct her boss will not give a s*** oh, because the next boss up will just fire them both
I'll hire her thou. So will every smart human that appreciates the advantages of working with honest people. This is the opposite of the US government. Where the more you lie the more powerful you can be. This country going to hell in a 👜
At my college we have a small army of officers although our campus isn't big. Last year in a public area I witnessed racially motivated harassment from a small group of students to a single student. Me and a few other students had to step in to stop things from escalating, despite there being 2-3 officers nearby clearly within hearing/seeing range. The police only came over to us after me and the others got involved, seemingly upset that we somehow made the situation worse. Luckily no one was arrested, but it was scary and sad.
In my high school biology class a friend carved “Ryan Cole is a delinquent” onto a desk, and for years I had people behind me in school, friends of my younger sisters, and for all I know kids today thinking I was, in fact a delinquent. That is how legends are created. I was actually a good kid.
When I was in high school, I almost got arrested because I tossed an eraser to my friend who didn't hear me say "Hey catch" and he got hit in the eye. He wasn't mad, it was complete accident, and we laughed it off. Our teacher than held me after class (which at this point I already forgot the eraser thing even happened it was so meaningless), tried to file a report on me, and our SRO had to come in and talk to me. Thankfully, my SRO was not an abusive asshole, and really my teacher's more a POS than the cop herself, but she literally just read the incident report and was like, "This is bullshit, I'm not handcuffing the fucking kid." I appreciate her for that, but the fact that was even a possibility at all is dystopian!
Maybe you shouldn't have been throwing shit in class hard enough to injure other kids. Just a thought. I bet this wasn't the only incident.
@@JadeDelphi “Oh no, my lightly grazed eye, how will I ever recover from such a severe injury!” It was a light toss, not a speedball, a laughable accident. You’re right though, it wasn’t the only incident, because of pathetic people like you who believe that children who have no counseling, no support groups, no adults willing to show them empathy, should be punished by a set of laws and rules that diminish them as nothing more than a nuisance that needs to be taken care of. Let children be children, if you don’t know how to, then you shouldn’t be near them or dictating their lives, especially when they’re in need or struggling. I may’ve made numerous visits to my principal, but I also graduated top 10 in my class out of hundreds of students, and not an ounce of that came from following “the rules”
@@JadeDelphi Where do you think people learn? Do you think people are born known not knowing to throw an eraser before double-checking the other person is aware? I mean, how niche is that? If the other kid had known- it'd probably have been fine. There was no intentional malice here. It was a simple accident.
Even if there *was* malice, even if this *was* a repeat offense (which is a completely ridiculous thing to assume, but I'll humor you)- even if it *wasn't* an accident, so what? In the worst case scenario... that is not a crime. That is a kid doing a stupid thing and (hopefully) learning from that stupid thing. No police are necessary. Trust me. It happens all the time and will continue to happen, and kids have learned good behavior from bad without having armed law enforcement officials involved. The only thing police bring to the table is a healthy mistrust of police. In that sense, SROs aren't all bad, but it's still unnecessary training for the harsh realities of adulthood that children really don't need to confront that early. Many children already deal with those realities at home and in their communities. Schools are supposed to be a safe space, not one more point of tension.
Imagine that there is a police officer assigned to your house. The county says they're there to "protect you" but really they're there to police you. That's what most of these kids are dealing with. It's absolutely insane.
@@IndianaKong95 Just ignore her. Judging by this and some other comments of hers she's likely on the lesser end of the bell curve.
@@IndianaKong95 It all depends on how safe the kids around that kid are as they're struggling and learning. YOU absolutely should not have been arrested for accidentally hitting your friend with an eraser, no!
But I went to a school in which roving gangs of kids beat people (often strangers, because the school was so large) to a pulp on the daily.
Sometimes ambulances were needed. Someone was stabbed.
A few years after I attended
*TRIGGER WARNING*
a girl with a bathroom pass was lured into a little used hallway and forcibly raped by another student who was cutting class
*END OF TRIGGER*
Those were kids living in a broke district, attending a broke and wildly overcrowded school, many of whom were likely struggling accademically and at home, who had too few resources and too little intervention
(though frankly, I would guess a few grew up to have APD)
But the damage they did to the kids around them, many of whom were equally struggling, was immense and unacceptable.
Your right to be a struggling,learning kid ends at the point where you are breaking another kid's orbital bone and leaving him with PTSD that makes his life even more difficult than it already was.
"Oh no my good bitch, that very much is your business." is my new favorite John Oliver line.
I WAS LOOKING FOR YOU!! I *needed* there to be someone else who caught & celebrated this. 😆😂😂
Yo Factsssss i had to know I wasn’t alone in thinking about that line😂😂
I don't know I thought calling him a budget Bill Murray was even funnier.
Oh my good bitch, that is very much your business - made me laugh out loud! Budget Bill Murray also classic.
I haven't laughed as loud as I've laughed at that line in years
The SRO in a New Hampshire school where I worked refused to wear a mask, and encouraged students not to wear masks when masks were mandated both by the governor and the school department. It took the school months to get him out of there
School police man tried to drag me into a loud auditorium while I was having an autistic meltdown because I had an ear infection and it was very loud in there. I was screaming absolute bloody murder because there’s a man trying to drag me
Also when I was sexually assaulted by another student he came to my house and harassed me about it. And invited himself into the house because the front door was unlocked.
When I was in HS, a substitute teacher thought my friends and I were eating pot brownies and called the school SROs on us. About 7 of them, all with guns, came and pulled us out of the classroom. My friend, who sold regular chocolate brownies, had his back pack searched. Then, they humiliated him by saying he wasn’t going to make enough money for college by selling brownies and he was going to end up “flipping burgers.” The worst part is we were in a class that was solely for advanced minority students whose parents were poor. I was so shaken by this incident and it took years for me to come to terms with the fact that it was WRONG and that my friends and I had been racially profiled.
Holy fuck that is horrible. Kids can't even eat some fucking brownies without being harassed?
Wow I can't even put into words how wrong that was.... just wow....
Did you end up with a permanent arrest record that would prevent you from getting into college?
I honestly don't understand this strange mentality Americans have of overblowing every situation. Sure, you probably didn't like the situation and their intervention but 'so shaken by this incident and it took YEARS for me to come to TERMS' sounds kind of insane for some cops just being a bit jerky. They thought the kids were doing drugs, they over reacted, it's not a good thing but by damn do some people have issues with authority. It sounds like you could get triggered at a heart beat if you're not the one able to control the officers instead of the other way around. Heavy handed policing is a bit scary if they actually do something but it sounds like they made fun of your friend unfairly and you took years to somehow process that. It's downright freaky how unhinged people can be that the most minor cases trigger them for years.
Yeah I went to a public highschool in SoCal in a predominantly Hispanic, liberal area and there were 9 total armed officers on campus some who wore body armor. The NRA acting as if there isn’t a heavy presence of law enforcement especially in democratic states is so incorrect.
When I was in HS a kid we knew was thrown down, handcuffed and taken to school office while everyone looked on (it was during lunch). We later found out he was acting “weird” bc he was diabetic and was low in sugar. Pretty aggressive tactic for a child who just needed medical attention
he was different, its punishable by death or deportation"!
I am diabetic and this terrifies me about being in public. I am also autistic and have brain damage. I "act weird" all the time. Police scare me and I would hate to be a child with anything that makes you stand out.
Oh if you sneeze or scratch your back you are up to something… it’s just common knowledge
Scary stuff. Low blood sugar can also make your breath smell like alcohol. People have died of diabetic shock in police custody because they were assumed to be drunk.
the results of a militant fascist state we are becoming. Instead of "protect & serve" it is now "Submit & obey".
Yeah, I’m a mentally disabled student, and can confirm that this shit actually happens. (I have ASD, BPD, PDD, ADHD, CPTSD, and GAD) I’d have daily panic attacks in school, went nonverbal, had shutdowns and meltdowns, and the SROs made everything worse. I was terrified of them hurting me for some bs reason, and cause I was mentally disabled, they’d follow me around. One time I was being bullied on Halloween and they took away my cardboard mask/axe and LOCKED DOWN the hallway, trapping me in the stairwell while I was desperately trying to not go into an episode, because I was scared of what they would do to me if I openly showed any “negative” emotions. It’s why I had to leave the school, I fucking hate it all.
Cops are just school bullied who grew up
And who else would be a favoured victim for bullies than the non neurotypical kids
Police in school is just giving them a chance to continue their career bullying kids, and giving them a gun and laws that means they can do pretty much anything, including shoot you, and get away with it
School bullies*
This is not the point, but I'm currently heavily considering getting an ASD and PTSD diagnosis on top of my childhood depression, ADHD, and GAD ones. It's feels wrong or silly to assume I could have so many developmental disorders because I've generally been passing my whole life. Point being, you type like I think, normalizing these things is important and your comment helped me.
Mental health specifically is being treated much more carefully in recent years, racism and homo/transphobia require a little extra work but I do have hope and have seen strides made for neurodivergent people. The more people learn the more comfortable they are speaking out and teaching others about what they/we need, it will get better!
@@Blewlongmun glad I could be of help, and good luck with getting your diagnosis. (:
Bullshit
When I was in elementary school, one of the kids in my class got dragged out of the classroom by an SRO because she wasn’t listening to the teacher. Mind you, this girl obviously had stuff going on at home, was 9 years old, and had *adhd* . What made it worse was she was one of the only four of us black kids in the *entire* school. Instead of my teacher getting her help (also quick note, we had no counselors) or at least putting her foot down as the adult or even just explain to the girl why she should at least consider listening, our teacher instead called the SRO. When the girl refused to go with him, he called another officer and they both dragged her out of the classroom as she screamed and cried. Considering the fact that I had to deal with a lot of racism from that school, watching her get dragged away like that by the SROs scared the shit out of me not only because it was horrible, but also because I though I was next if I ever so much as told my teacher “no”.
America: "It's not everyday you hear of the campus police officer taking on a role in the school play".
Rest of the world: It's not everyday you hear the phrase "campus police officer", what is going on over there guys?
A lot of really, terrible awful things are going on here. A lot.
@@edwardkrawczak8927 I don't say this lightly, despite it being a CZcams Comment[TM]... but if you have the means, education and employability to get out of the US by any means necessary, you're absolutely fucking mad to not be making emmigration plans for just about anywhere else in the developed world at this point. Please, we beg of you... come and join any of the civil democracies in which the rights of the public still have some chance of being fairly represented. It's so much better. And my sincere sympathies to those who don't have the option and must stay behind to watch and suffer while their gloriously exceptional nation implodes. This ideological war is going to call for a huge bill in human suffering, and it's a goddamn tragedy. Help in any way you can. But once you're tapped out, get out.
@@sixstringedthing well, of course the idea occurs to us, but like so many people in bad places around the world it's never so easy. We have siblings, parents, children. Moving takes resources, which this capitalist hellscape has done a good job of depriving people of. You're right, getting out of here is ideal, but it's a lot easier said than done.
@@sixstringedthing I'm seriously thinking about it now, this country is going to further shit day by day.
@@edwardkrawczak8927 Hey mate, I fully understand the realities of "just upping and leaving" and the fact that if it were just that bloody easy, more people would be doing it. Apologies if my reply sounded like it was preaching to the choir mate, best wishes to your and family in these harsh times.
Ultimately, America is too obsessed with the idea of “Law Enforcement” rather then “Public Safety”
"we need to lock up anyone who disagrees with us for starters, then go after anyone they talked to in the last four weeks just to make sure"
Ya, look at the ubiquitous assaults, theft, and store heists in LA for a shining example of the "public safety" that occurs when you tie the hands of law enforcement.
@@Aaron-os8qi You mean like how the cops in TX waited almost an hour to go in; while the kid had a firing spree?
@@-raist You can't take one incident as prof of outcome in every situation. However, that is the narrative this video is pushing that: cops don't ever help. I would also ask, "how many crimes don't occur because a security officer is there?" Those are the statistics you can't measure, and so, they often go ignored.
@@Aaron-os8qi IT has been proven time and time again when there is an armed security person the shooter goes for that person FIRST. This happened at the shooting at a bar right after The Tree of Life Shooting in a Synogogue in Pgh. If you are in military M.O you go for the guy with the gun first. It's just plain stupid. The police are afraid to go in but they want teachers --who were trained for something completely different--to now use a gun. These police are pussies who didn't go in. If they are not going to use their gun when you need to, take it away and defund them just standing around waiting.
Stories make me think about how lucky I was in school. When I was young, I had bad anger issues; I yelled at people, ran out of the classroom, even threw punches sometimes. I'm not excusing my behavior, but I was just a kid who needed help, and thankfully I got it. People who didn't know me in elementary school are shocked when I say I had anger issues. But imagine if an SRO came to handle the situation every time I lost my temper instead of a trusted counselor. Would I, an 8 year old, had been arrested instead of getting the help I needed?
Yeah many of these stories make me happy I was homeschooled.
The absolute state of schools in the US is absolutely tragic
I’m blind, and when I was in middle school, the campus officers stopped me all the time because they thought my cane with some sort of weapon. For those who don’t know, one of the techniques for using a cane, is to move the tip back and forth across the ground in an arc about shoulder width. One of the officers actually got me in trouble and accused me of waving it around like a weapon and purposely trying to hit students. And this was about 12 years ago, I can’t imagine how bad it’s gotten today.
Okay that is excessively stupid my god
The fact that a cop doesn't know what a blind person's cane is is horrifying
Show how stupid and untrained they are. At least that can be fixed.
There was a blind girl at my school who got harassed too and the halls were way too crowded I never understood why she didn’t go to class like 5 minutes before the bell rang so she didn’t have to deal with the traffic. So stressful. I remember an ignorant kid threatening to fight her because she “hit” her with her cane.
@@mermaidismyname it's not that they are stupid.
It's the fact that absolute power corrupts people, makes them tyranical.
The fact that they don't have to face consequence makes it worse.
@@mermaidismyname No, they know.
They just got trained to not give a shit.
Can you imagine anything more pathetic than a grown man who, for a career, goes back to school to bully children?
Yeah. A lot of them are called teachers
A society that allows that to be a viable career option.
Yes, I've met gym teachers before.
That officer is being hit by a child and they cry.
Yes. A country called USA that claims to be 1st world but has a society like a 3rd world shithole.
THAT‘S more pathetic than a grown man bullying children.
When I was a teen in 2006, I and a hundred other kids were on campus “after hours” for band camp. We were playing on the unused football field, running in sprinklers and throwing a deflated football. Our band teacher said we could be there.
Within 20 minutes, 3 police cars raced up and skidded to a stop, lights ablaze. A lot of kids freaked out and ran, and it caused a stampede of panic. Several kids tore flesh trying to jump a fence; one kid dislocated an ankle.
Even though our teacher had cleared it, this was our school, we were at an official event, and we were not doing any vandalism or dangerous activity- we could’ve been arrested for “evading the police”. If my school had been any less white, kids could’ve been shot for that.
This was in 2006. This has been going on for a while.
Scrubbing, sanding and revarnishing desks was classic detention work in my old school (UK). One ink pen picture of a pretty girl was so good, it was just varnished over to immortalise it!
My son is autistic and has ADHD. One day at his new school he was told by the after school program organizer to go home cuz he wouldn't stop running around the gym. They kicked him out. Just kicked him out of the school and no one called me. He had a panic attack and accidentally scraped the paint on a teacher's car. He was arrested. The cops called me, told me what he'd done and that he was at the police station. He is an extremely curious and friendly kid, so he was having fun talking to the police about different things, they were so great at the police station. He didn't understand what he did wrong, or why the cops took him from school, and thankfully the school police officer had an autistic daughter and helped him. They didn't book him, and the teacher refused to press charges. However, because it was on school property, the school district charged him with destruction of property and something else regarding violence. We ended up in court for THREE YEARS trying to fight the charge and get him the help he needed to put him in a school he would actually thrive in. Thankfully he was given a scholarship and attended a private school for children with issues like his. He graduated and now works in healthcare.
Good Lord, what a bunch of power tripping self righteous Nazis in the school district from your story.
That’s why public schools need to be defunded, no help for students
OMG. What an effin nightmare! So sorry you had to go through that. I don't have children. I chose not to have any. I have never been more grateful for making that choice because I don't think I could ever raise children in a kind of country America is turning into. I would just be pathologically anxious for their safety and well-being both physical and mental every day. I applaud all parents who can do it. I don't think I could ever put my child, if I had one, in an American public school. I would have to homeschool or send them to private school or send them to my home country which although poor, mass shootings don't happen every day! Only in America! And it is horrible that we have a small minority of citizens who would prioritize guns over our children! I hope things get better for this country's children one day.
@@jomama3849 What a completely ass-backwards answer. You funnel _more_ money out of the public system, and you're going to have the same problems alongside the addition of a critical lack of resources, with even worse-paid teachers and _far less_ of them; we already have a shortage of qualified educators, it's not gonna get better when Coach Bubba from P.E. has to triple-down as both the students' English and Math teacher.
@@jomama3849 Like private schools would be any better?
I was arrested for sleeping in class, and the teacher who told the cops to come get me was crying like she was so sad that it was so sad because an injustice was being done to me, but SHE is the reason it happened! Oh yeah, so they said I was "disturbing the class" by sleeping, because the teacher DISTURBED the class to wake me up.
Police officer to wake a kid up sleeping in class, what the actual hell is going on. We are so screwed when we think that is what police are for.
Did the officer arrest you as well for it?
what kind of psychotic society arrests a child for sleeping?
My teacher just put a sign on a kids back for sleeping in class. Sorry what happened to you though.
that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard
i had so much contact with police in school just for being autistic in a way my teachers found annoying because like that teacher said most of the staff would default to calling the police instead of dealing with it in literally any other way. i'd get threatened with arrest for things like stimming or going into autistic shutdown, the former i had very little control over and the latter i had no control over at all. thankfully they never made good on these threats but it's like they thought they could intimidate or bully me into being "normal". i never had an officer not be awful to me about it either; none of them ever went "wow there's clearly something going on with this kid. i should try a gentler approach." it's a career that attracts bullies and they're going to bully children just as much as they bully adults and the more vulnerable that child is the worse they're going to be.
In Latvia we can't even buy fireworks without a hunter's licence. You'd be surprised that there's no shooting's here😅
When "Don't take away my guns" carries more weight than "Don't take away my children", we know we have a serious problem of conscience in the country.
This is about shock and not safety. 100 children die year riding their bicycles and 12 youth commit suicides every day. Meanwhile there have been 154 active school shooters that have killed 637 people and wounded 1,700 people since 1970. There are 130,000 K-12 schools in the U.S. on top of all the trade schools, colleges and universities.
@@orlock20 Fair Point...or it would be if guns weren't the leading cause of death for children in this country. Mass shootings are just an attention grabbing way of showing what already happens. Yeah Mass Shootings are are less than other causes of death if you narrow your data like that, but they are just a fraction of the gun death total. Take your bike statistic; it'd be like only measuring the bike deaths in a triathlon, instead of the year.
@@JABRIEL251 The number one cause of death among children is vehicle accidents and automobiles have no protection in the U.S. Constitution.
@@orlock20 I mean neither did guns until VERY recently, but no. It used to be automobiles, but auto deaths have since been supplanted by gun deaths. Admittedly, they are close to the point where a year can be either, but right now its guns.
@@orlock20 no matter what, no child should have to worry about being gunned down in their school. No person should be afraid of doing their groceries or attending a crowded day out. Watching from the outside, this is NOT normal and is absolutely a problem that *can* be fixed with legislation. I don’t think anyone in America should be trying to argue that this isn’t a problem, a few years ago the death count for children who died by guns surpassed the death count for children who died in car accidents. It is not normal and it’s not how people should have to live in a functioning democracy. It’s pretty clear that American democracy has failed though.
I remember being in High School and the 3 SRO’s ALWAYS doing searches with the dogs. They always ALWAYS picked on this kid from a bad home who just didn’t have direction in life. Instead of seeing him as someone who needed another perspective on life they saw him as a criminal in the making. We need to change. We need reform in this country. This is unacceptable.
I remember being in high school and there was no such thing as an SRO. I also remember when the NRA was pro-gun control and pro-gun safety.
My how times have changed, and not for the better.
I remember being in high school and not seeing a single police officer or violent criminal ever set foot on the building.
I listen to americans talk about this kind of topic and to me they sound like they live in an entirely different planet where human logic doesn't apply
Its just sad that there are cops in US schools. And its just ridiculous how low the profile is to become a cop in general in the US.
I went to high school in Philly. I remember seeing STMs putting handcuffs on a student. One time, they put their body weight on a 15 year old girl. Nothing can excuse that.
The dean also further silence the students & the teachers that stood against it. Teachers suddenly had gotten new jobs outside of the state. A teacher up & left without a word one time. Other teachers were racist, colorist, misogynistic & bigots.
They would pick on students & teachers who were LGBTQ+. There were STMs using disgusting vocabulary towards the girls in the school. Some had copped a feel. Others made them uncomfortable. The school created such a toxic environment that many students didn't want to come back to school. They were blamed by it as well. The counselors were useless.
SO TRUE. Every week we had to put our back packs into the hall and lock ourselfs in the classrooms until each dog and officer went through each bag.
I live in Germany and school shootings happen very, VERY rarely. The one that did happen during my schooltime (not at my school) was something very tragic and outstanding. It is not a daily threat. That a country can have hundreds of shootings each year, numbers increasing, and not do the one sane thing to stop it, is wild to me
Yup it's wild to us too :(
The whole idea of schools having armed guards and metal detectors is absolutely insane to me. It's like something from Orwell.
I assume more 1984 than Animal Farm?
"Future tax payers" wow, that's the most honest answer a Republican has ever said.
Except they'll do their damndest to avoid paying their share.
Republicans want small government so they don’t want to raise taxes. Dems are the ones who want to raise taxes because they want bigger government which COST MONEY AND they want to give money away so people vote for them and (they claim “cuz we’re compassionate.” Do you know anything about politics? LOL 😂
Not if they become a billionaire
What's most scary about it is that the guy who said it was a Dad to children in the school and his wife worked at the school.
@@jimijames63 ......like tump?
I worked at a middle school that had metal detectors, two SRO’s, and 7 security guards. It felt dystopian. More like a cold prison than a school.
Really?! Man! 😳 I’m so glad I’m from Europe. I can’t imagine what’s it like to go to school in those conditions .. I’m really sorry to hear that..
What country? Russia? China?
jesus that seems horrific
@@flyingdutchman1352 America, of course.
Schools are literally now built similarly to prisons. They are designed so that its as hard as possible for an escapee to have free movement throughout a prison.
When I was in highschool my school was one of the highest crime rates in the area and not one fight was broken up by the SRO. He for some reason was always conveniently somewhere else. But if you had a vape he would sniff that shit out and arrest you
Of course the school police act just like normal police, focusing on taking the drugs instead of anything useful.
The highschool I went to had two SRO's, who's names I frankly dont remember because I never interacted with them, but it also had a couple of security guards, on of whom was named Goardy. And I'll say this, everybody loved Goardy. The other security guards were fine and we all liked them fine enough as well, but Goardy was truly something special. And not a single kid I remember has good memories of the SRO's. Everyones memories of the SRO's was them walking around with guns on their hips, poking their noses into innocent conversations, and just gernally being intimidating and frightening. Goardy on the other hand was actually trained for his job, and did all the things SRO's are supposed to do, but with none of the intimidation factor that is funadmentally inherent to what the police are as an institution. If you were having a bad day, you could talk to Goardy. If another kid was bullying you, you could talk to Goardy. Hell, me and a couple of my friends once got caught smoking weed out back of the school by Goardy, but he didnt know who had what on them, and when we all individually were brought to the principle and didnt snitch on our friends (even though it was already so apparent what had happened) Goardy looked me in the eye and said, and I swear I am not lying about this, "Listen man, we all know what happened. But I respect you for standing up for your friends to the bitter end." I still think about that regularly, the school security guard looked me in the eye and said 'hey you did something wrong and its my job to punish you for that, but I respect you for not backing down and standing up for your friends.' Goardy was a truly good man who truly did his job with nothing but respect and honor, and clearly took great pride in being a part of the educational process, teaching us kids what is and is not acceptable, but also in his own weird way teaching us that a little mischief from time to time is OK, so long as you arent causing any real harm.
Anyhow, my highschool was never great, there was a lot of drugs in my town and a lot of kids in that school came from rough families and rough areas, but they have since shut down the whole program they had for the security guards they had there where they trained them really well to be resources for the kids as much as the people you called in if a big brawl happened in the halls. Which did happen a couple of times while I was there. But they shut down whatever program it was that they had for Goardy and his two colleagues to be there in favor of bringing in two more SRO's, about a year after I graduated. And from what I understand of the culture of that school now, while it was never great, its a lot worse now. Now they have drug sniffing dogs in the school, and kids are more scared of being in school, because they are afraid that by getting into trouble its not going to be Goardy coming along to take them to the principles office and maybe tell them what they did was dumb, instead its going to be and SRO who comes along and puts them in the back of a squad car.
“Oh no, my good bitch” is about to become my new favorite way of correcting someone. Again Oliver nails the heart of the problem.
LMAO John’s way with words is legendary!
We are now living in a world where a child says "School Is a prison" and ACTUALLY HAS A POINT.
Prison is safer.
@@moneymanjoe9639 statistically, your right
not "in a world". More like in a (crazy) country called Usa.
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I HAVE THE SOLUTION!!! Special forces navy seal platoon in EVERY school, church, mosque, synagogue, bar, club, public venue, grandma's wardrobe. How much will that cost? 1000 billion USD, hahahaha.
a close friend of mine got bodied and held down by their school police because they tried to not be restrained while having a manic episode. school police are not a solution they are a problem and at times a danger.
At my high school we had a full time police officer. I also had 2 classes where there were not enough desks, so if everyone showed up someone had to sit on the floor. I’m not exaggerating. I had to sit on the floor because there weren’t enough desks. For reference - I graduated in 2018.
I've physically blocked my school's SRO from getting into a classroom where one of my students (a young black girl) was having a meltdown that absolutely did not require the intervention of a middle-aged white man with a gun. They don't help.
I hope you didn't get arrested for that...
I hope you got arrested.
@@AndreaLazzarotto because the color of her skin has effected every interaction with law enforcement that she, and nearly every other person of color, has ever had. It's touched upon in the video, actually. When my kids, nearly all black, see a cop, they see pictures of victims of police brutality in their minds. To them, cops are boogymen, not heroes. The SRO getting involved would have only upset her more. That's why I mentioned the color of her skin.
@@Draezeth I calmly stood in a doorway and talked with an upset student when it became obvious the substitute had lost control. I deescalated the situation until admin could come to handle it. I simply blocked the door by accident. The SRO was not needed. I wasn't arrested, but I did get a thank you for my assistant principal and the joy of watching that student graduate with honors this past month. That being said, if getting arrested is what it takes to protect my kids, I'll accept that.
@@nunyabusiness3666 why would I be arrested for calmly standing in a doorway and talked with an upset student? The student was crying and shouting, not waving a gun. There was no threat in that classroom that would require police intervention. I did my job and deescalated the situation. The SRO was not needed. His presence would only have upset my student more. I protected my student and got her help. I'm a teacher; that means putting myself between my kids and the people with guns, no matter who they are. Cops don't protect school kids, teachers do. Just ask the kids in Uvalde.
The most bizarre aspect of this whole thing is the fact that an arrest that didn't lead to conviction shows up on your record and can harm you in the future. So much for innocent until proven guilty...
Yeah that needs changed.
Right? Should be “found guilty of a crime” not “arrested”
Mostly for people of a certain colour too. I know several Americans who have charges on their record, ranging from misdemeanors like public urination and DUIs to pretty serious drug offenses. One guy I know was one arrest away from going away for a long time (Texas, marijuana, two strikes, you know the rest); it didn't stop him (or most of the rest of them) from moving on with their lives, developing careers and becoming productive members of society. In his case he left the country on a scholarship and eventually got a PhD. You won't need to guess what race most of them are, and that of the one who, for 10 years, still had no firm job (three who hired him quickly fired him when they belatedly realised he had a criminal record from decades ago) and luckily managed to get sponsored to live in Canada where he's been able to build some sort of life.
does anyone know, i thought criminal records were expunged at 18, so does it really matter very long? sorry im genuinely curious, i could be an idiot here. I guess for like jobs at 17, 18 or college? of course i agree these small misdemeanors shouldn't be on the record anyway, especially if they don't lead to an arrest and conviction, but there is an expunction in all these cases yes?
@@katies6374 You have to ask for that from a judge in court when you turn 18. Records are automatically sealed for a minor only when the minor is a victim of a heinous crime like CP or SA.
When I first joined my secondary school I'd just been moved in, the teachers didn't bother to get me my own login account for the computers and the teachers just wandered around past me for 25 minutes while I had my hand up, so the person next to me logged me into their account just so I could do something, and suddenly the teachers paid attention, and we got a personal 10 minute lecture on how we were committing fraud and it could easily result in jail time as we had been caught committing a crime on the cameras. She told us about how many years in prison we could be sentenced to... like... come on, cut us some god damn slack. I was like 12.
I feel so bad for that 5 year old with adhd that got arested..
Having adhd myself i cant imagine how traumatising that mustve been for the kid
Absolutely insane that stuff like this even happens how the fk can you arrest a 5 year old for anything???
My autistic son was charged with a felony when he said his mother was going to kill him over a poor grade so he ought to just get it over with and kill himself now. He was charged with terroristic threats of killing himself. He was actually convicted too.
This was in Kansas 10 years ago. He was never Able to attend college because of the felony and it has severely affected his life in so many ways. This isn’t even a rare thing. Cops gave absolutely no business being in schools.
What the actual f*+&£ , this is the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard 😭sue their ass
I, too, have a son with autism. Fortunately, we live in the UK. (And it's not often I count myself lucky on that account.) He has had amazing education throughout, and is at a wonderful programme now as an adult, and lives at home with us. I am so, so sorry that your son and you had to go through that. Sending you virtual hugs.
That is so beyond disgusting...I can barely believe it. I hope he manages to have a good life regardless of this horrific mistreatment
My heart goes out to you.
He may have inadvertently added "everyone" and then himself(at least that would be in the police report, cops lie, but I can't imagine they would arrest a suicidal kid, unless you had a deranged cop). I still agree they shouldn't make that in itself a crime. He should have gotten help
"Teachers get apples because an apple a day keeps the doctor away, and we don't have the money to go to the doctor" (from my wife, who is a teacher)
A tragedy of life generally, low pay for a fundamental service is abhorrent. Doctors/surgeons/nurses, teachers, are fundamental should be paid enough and most importantly valued enough to care and not get burnt out and walk away… seen that too many time with good teachers and good medical staff…. Imagine not giving those that teach our kids or look after us and the elderly what they deserve…..and my message to the politicians is don’t add a cop to the schools, fund the schools and give the kids a life changing education…. They might not come back and shoot everyone
@@fazziebear TBF, surgeons are paid incredibly well and other doctors are quite handsomely rewarded.
I'm a nurse in another country my state government wants to give us a medal for our work in covid. Fuck me this pissed me off
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average salary for elementary school teachers is $61,350, and most teaching jobs come with health insurance and pto. It's getting old having teachers whine about low pay when they're paid better than most people, especially for only working 9 months out of the year.
Thank you for explaining that. I have always wondered..... Makes perfect sense now.
When I was going to school in the 90s we only ever saw police officers at school for the DARE program.
Did you get one of these pencils from the DARE program?
I heard this pencils were kind of legendary because of a anti-dr*g-slogan on them you could turn into a pro-dr*g-slogan by sharping it 🤔
In middle school I was bullied constantly and as much as it bothered me, it never got under my skin. But in 8th grade, those same bullies started with my disabled little brother. They jumped him and left him bloodied and bruised because he defended a girl they were picking on. My little brother was the one who was taken by the SRO and suspended for 14 days. When he was finally allowed back those kids told me they were going to beat him again unless I stuck a paper clip in a light socket for their own amusement. To protect my little brother, I did it and inadvertently started a small fire after some sparks caught on some crumbled up paper balls on the floor near the outlet. I was arrested and faced being charged with misdemeanor arson and had to finish 8th grade in something they called “Sheriff School” which was essentially boot camp that lasted until I finished 8th grade and moved into high school. They told my parents sheriff school would serve as an alternative to charging me with a misdemeanor which they thought would be the best course to prevent a criminal file. Unfortunately, it still showed up and I lost a sports scholarship to attend a private school and lost the ability to qualify for the (then known as) Florida Bright Futures Scholarship where I could attend a good college. Even though I graduated top of my class with a 5.7 GPA. Those SROs allowed my little brother to get bullied until he finished middle school. On the other side of that coin though, there was an amazing SRO who protected him throughout high school and often helped him any time he had a problem whether personal or school related. We don’t need more militarized SROs in school, we need more compassionate ones who genuinely care for the students and are there as a means of counseling, teaching, and protecting out kids.
Or, perhaps
No cops in schools at all, and hire real counsellors
Then you dont have to play russian roulette with kids lives hoping you dont get a bully cop at your school
I mean what you just described you wanted is literally a guidance counsellor.
Just take the cops out and hire real counsellors.
Canadian here. I always assumed when Americans talked about school police, they were referring to a fancy security guard, it never even crossed my mind that you'd have ACTUAL POLICE just in schools at all times
yeah for real...that shocks me as a Canadian too..
toronto liver here we have those 😭
shocks me as an australian
Oh yes, we have real cops with real guns walking around high schools and middle schools. I actually was questioned by one once for wearing a pink bandana tied into my hair . He honestly thought I was in a gang and asked me to not wear the bandana at school any more because " a bandana is considered gang related paraphernalia." Honestly what gang wears bright pink? The biker Barbies? Lol
When I was in middle school, my student resource officer sat my 6th grade class down, looked us dead in the eye, and said they would SHOOT us if we pulled a water gun on them as a prank. So much trust building. So much.
😳
Why tf would you pull anything that even resembles a gun on a police officer?
@@theguywhoisaustralian1465 Missed the point. No one actually did it. None of the kids even suggested it. He just said that he would. Unprompted.
@@chaosprince8291 I understood perfectly, thank you for checking tho
@@theguywhoisaustralian1465 why would a cop shoot a kid for that? Be mad! Be annoyed. Send them to the principal and have a serious talk with them. But don’t shoot!!
I was not easy to deal with when I was in elementary school. I have ADHD and in kindergarten I was incredibly impulsive. I once head butted a kid I liked for no reason and tried to attack another kid with a pool noodle in PE. I thankfully got diagnosed with ADHD and got the extra help and accommodations I needed and turned out perfectly fine.
But I’m pretty sure if it weren’t for the fact I was a little white blonde girl with a reputation as normally being well meaning and having a teacher that was experienced in handling ADHD kids I wouldn’t have been diagnosed and instead be labeled a problem child and left to the police to deal with.
Kids with special needs can be hard to deal with and sometimes extreme impulsivity can be dangerous but really all kids like me needed is help and patience.
My high school had SRO's but not a nurse or anything medical. I remember having massive menstrual cramps freshman year (which turned out to be PCOS later) and limping over to the admin building asking where the nurse's office is. Found out they didn't have one. I then asked if there was any sort of medical kit or if any of them had ibuprofen, they said they aren't allowed. The only thing they could do was call my mother to pick me up. For the next few days the SRO that was in the office when I begged for help kept an eye on me like I had some sort of drug problem. It's bad enough dealing with awful periods, but to also have to contain the pain for fear of looking like an addict? Now I'm a music teacher, and I always have a period kit for any student who needs it with pads, tampons, ibuprofen, and chocolate so no girl is left helpless.
“Oh no my good bitch, that is very much your business” is a powerful sentence
My wife taught at a school where the SRO threatened to arrest and charge a victim is sexual abuse with rape because the victim herself was underage. The vice principal and my wife lost her shit on the officer, accused the officer of overstepping her role as SRO, so the PD stopped placing an SRO in the school. As a result, security incidents in the school continued to never happen.
NO offense meant but your grammar is hard for me to follow. Are you saying that he arrested someone for rape? That is pretty serious. But because of your grammar I cannot really understand your comments. Raping someone who is underaged is horrific though.
@@Zurround I think they're saying that the SRO said they would charge the person with "Statutory" rape (underage sex) as a threat to convince the person to not pursue action against another person for sexual assault.
Never happen meaning like they swept stuff under the rug or they prevented stuff from happening.
@@matttorres5510 How is being the VICTIM of sexual assault statutory rape? You are not making any sense? Plus I think its only statutory rape if one partner is significantly older? If 2 sixteen year olds sleep with each other then do you have 2 rapists and 2 victims at the same time? Its a legal paradox?
@@Zurround honestly we're going off very limited info. That's just what it sounded like to me. Lots of could'ves.
“Not your business? Oh no my good bitch, that is very much your business!” Best quote every “oh no my good bitch” should be on tshirts
Under nearly every John Oliver show I could write how glad I am living in the EU and not the backward USA
yes. Agreed. (from an ex European now living in Canada).
I work at a pet store and I can honestly say that throwing large towels over birds is actually very effective at catching them
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...do them birds go ballistic?😆
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It's true. I think that's how HBO keeps catching John when he escapes the void.
Wait.. you guys get a CRIMINAL RECORD, for just being arrested even if case dismissed? Just for being arrested?
That's fucked up. That means presumed guilty from the start.
What you get is arrest record. Not criminal record. But arrest records are just as searchable as criminal records. Iirc you can look up both at the same time when looking for criminal history of someone
Not even. Say that you happened to fit the description of someone who is a suspect of a crime, get arrested, and then released as it turns out you're not the suspect, then you've technically been arrested. At least I hope it doesn't work like that
@@user-cr4pz5yg7y that's f-ed up. For one that's not the DA's call, but the judge's.
@@user-cr4pz5yg7y That's absolutely terrible. Why do you people put up with that? I've never heard of that happening here in Australia
@@cityraildude This is the norm in the Land of the Free.
I'm a former public school Sped teacher: Public school is the most dangerous place you can send your children. If not from the violence and verbal abuse of other students, than the aggression and stupidity of the adults
We had an SRO when I was in high school that was clearly there for the power trip. Talked to students as if they were inmates and behaved almost exactly the same way thats discussed here. Just this year, he was arrested in a sting for trying to pay for a child prostitute. This man had assumed authority over high schoolers for years. Obviously this isn't a blanket statement for all SRO's, but knowing what I know now, it's terrifying to think back and remember how much power he had and how he could have possibly abused it more than what we saw.
Yes, more cops in schools.
That way when it happens again, instead of having 20 of them hiding from the gunman, there can be 40.
Preach the truth, Zufall!!!!! 💯🙌👍😥
stupidest thing is that if you want to shoot your school, i suppose you'd start by gunning down the police officer.
Well somebody has to make the runs for coffee and donuts.
That’s completely unfair.
They weren’t hiding from the gunman.
They were just getting the parents under control first.
You know, they were working their way up to it.
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I’m so glad you bring this up. This year my 13-year-old daughter was depressed because her dad moved to a different state and I caught her cutting herself. The day that I caught her I called the school and I told them to please talk to her and see if they can refer her to some sort of counseling or psychology program where they could talk to her in reference to cutting. Well, what the counselor did was call the SRO. This turned into a two day struggle with the school and the Miami police to prove that I was not the one causing her this trouble even though she told them numerous times that I was not an issue whatsoever. They brought the police to my house while we were at the hospital, scaring my mom half to death and left a message saying that I had to call them. I completely ignored that request because I didn’t do anything wrong…. in fact, like I spoke to them later and told them, I was the one that called them to ask for help. And they made me out to look like the bad guy. But I wrote a letter to the district and we had a little meeting with everybody in that goddamn school - The principal, the assistant principal, the counselors, and the school resource officer. I told them what I thought they had done wrong. They ended up deflecting like they always do, but I’m glad I got my two cents in edgewise. By the end of the meeting, they said that they understood that it had nothing to do with me and that they would try to help her with counseling. My daughter was so freaked out thankfully she realized how serious what she did was, and I am happy to say, she hasn’t done it again. But when I talk to her now, and asked her about the principal, and the SRO, she’s basically stated that she hates them and that she would never go to a counselor to tell them about anything ever again at a school. Thankfully, I have a really good relationship with her and we were able to talk it out, and since then, we’ve had a really great year. She even got into the high school that she wanted, so I’m happy to say on my side everything turned out well. But I was so upset that instead of giving her counseling, they referred her to the freaking cops! The actual cops showed up at my house at 9 PM that night to see if I was a good mom. Like I told them later, YEAH I AM A GOOD MOM, YOU DIDNT SEE THE CUTS. I FOUND THEM AND CALLED YOU AND YOU ALL COMPLETELY DROPPED THE BALL. Freaking idiots.
I would suggest going outside the school system to get her help. That's ridiculous and I'm sorry you all had to go through that.
It really sucks that people can't get this stuff straight. How are kids supposed to be able to trust adults in positions of authority when they see those very people do awful stuff (like in your story) constantly?
@@idontwantahandlethough I know! They broke her trust.
@@Finaggle definitely ! I found a great clinic but she opted not to go bc she said she would rather forget the whole incident. I felt her PTSD was too much so I opted to respect her wishes and we had some good talks. Thankfully she says she would never do that again. She decided it wasn’t worth ruining her very bright future. She won a few awards in school after that. She graduated with honors this semester. It’s also worth noting i caught her on her first try.
You are the parent. You don’t send kids to school to get professional counseling but learn.
Many insurance companies have free emergency services along with other community programs.
Shuffling it off to the school and not knowing how they handle things sounds like you’re passing the buck.
Yet again, brilliant and thought provoking. Thank you.
In middle school, after a cafeteria food fight, the school cops lined us all (everyone in the cafeteria, not just those who threw food) against the walls with our hands behind our heads like we were gang members. In highschool, I was talking to a "family counselor" about family problems. A family counselor apparently is only there to provide kids with clothes or school supplies they may need to borrow for the day. I talked to this person and was asking if I should call the police on a family member for an incident that previously happened and used the phrase, "pull the trigger". It was clear that the metaphorical trigger was reporting an incident that happened. That person sent me to a person who is supposed to talk about stuff like that. Afterwards, while chatting with my counselor, two cops asked my counselor to leave her own office and they stripped search me (I was allowed to keep my underwear on) and dumped my belongings and locker. It's fucking insane.
Whenever I watch John Oliver from Europe, I honestly ask myself: How are the US so fundamentally broken and still a country? It is beyond bizarre...
I just keep wondering how people accept this shit.
lmao watching from a literal broken hellhole country. You should do some introspection champ
In reality the US are on the brink of a Civil War and it's gonna happen in the next 5-10 years.. just think about the fact that such a ''great'' country could not come up with better presidents than Bush, Obama,Trump and Biden . It's insane.
@@srirolf345 they're mass manipulated thruout generations. The whole society is Brainwashed.. just look at their pop 'culture', media, and so on. The most terrifying thing is that whole Europe is copying they way to live and much more.
We're about not to be I suspect.
My son is on the autism spectrum. When he was in middle school (he's now 22) his school had an evacuation for a bomb threat. While the kids were all outside, one of the other students asked my son why they had to leave the building and my son responded, "it's a bomb". The SRO went after my kid for saying, "it's a bomb". Thankfully, my son's teacher heard him and saw the SRO go at him and she intervened. Cops in schools is a bad idea. I'm sick and fucking tired of getting shredded and being accused of being anti-cop because I want cops to get additional training. Cops view EVERYONE as criminals (the same everything is a nail to a hammer). Cops need more and better training, especially cops that deal with kids. Many professions require additional, annual training for CEUs (doctors, nurses, electricians, etc.) so why not cops? Why are they exempt from additional training? Why are they exempt from criticism? They hurt kids. The cops that are in schools aren't there to help kids, they are there to patrol.
Hey If morons didn't break the law we wouldn't need them blame those assholes not the cops
I honestly though cops did get that much training and was really shocked to find that wasnt the case
Those undertrained cops are all given qualified immunity in addition to being so poorly trained.
They're trained that they could be harmed by anyone at any point
Apologies, hit the wrong button by mistake, liked your comment, agree with what you say.
As a canadian, I still remember how shocked I was the first time I went to a bank in the US and saw an armed cop or security guard just standing there. I have never seen any security guard at any local branch of a bank in Canada. Ever. And I never had a shooting drill in school either. They gave us little plastic things to tape to the door windows in case of a shooting... and these ended up in the trash after a week cause no one needs them. However, when we had the Dawson College shooting, cops that were nearby and probably had never unholstered their guns outside of training, ran inside and dealt with the shooter right away unlike in Uvalde. American cops are trash.
So many things here are so difficult to believe watching from another country. Police in schools, children being arrested for minor instances, and of course the complete denial of the fact that guns are dangerous and shouldn't be sold like vegetables in a market.
My 6th grade daughter with special needs reported bullying and the SRO ordered a 5150 hold and an ambulance FOR MY DAUGHTER. I was present the whole time. My daughter was not having any kind of psychotic episode. The SRO forced her in the ambulance. The ambulance drivers and intake nurse at the hospital were appalled; they did not admit my daughter to the hospital and couldn’t figure out why the SRO would do such a thing. The ambulance bill cost me just over $4,500.00.
The same SRO attempted to conduct an illegal interrogation of my daughter two weeks later. Fortunately I was present. The SRO had my daughter removed from class, held in a room, came in and read her Miranda rights. She wouldn’t tell us why. I ordered my daughter not to say a word. The SROs (two of them) told my daughter if she wanted to know why she was there she would have to waive her rights and agree to speak to them. I told her not to say a word, asked if she was being detained, and left. They never followed up. No idea what that was about. I reported the incident to their sergeant.
That stuff happened within the last six months. In a suburban school in California.
By the way the sergeant I spoke to told me he never heard of the SRO triad…even though it’s advertised on their website. They’re a nightmare.
Holy fuck
@@lucyduarte9990 Holy fuck indeed.
We live in Temecula, CA by the way. Part of Riverside County Sherrif’s Office if anyone out there has any power over this and gives a shit. Lawyers welcome.
Can't you change school? How does that work in the US?
@@lynnc1382 Holy crap! You're better than me because I'm not sure if I would've been able to hold it together. Good for you for being there for your daughter. I hope she stays safe, you are able to help her see a positive path for her future and of course, that you are able to extract some measure of justice out of those crazy SRO's hide. You probably won't be able to get anywhere with the police but maybe if you make a bunch of noise at the school board meetings?
@@JH-jl5me I changed her school after the 5150 incident. The SROs have access to the whole district; the illegal interrogation was conducted two weeks later at her new school. The police are county so it’s tough to escape them.
Imagine having a data set large enough to come to statistical conclusions when the data set is "fatal shootings on school ground"
What a country. America first indeed.
Ya depending on your definition of "mass shooting", we have more than one a day here. Shockingly, and in spite of that, more than half of all gun-related fatalities in the US are self-inflicted.
We've had more mass shootings than days in the year so far. 'Murica.
@@CrispyChestnuts Did you not read 'fatal shootings on school ground'
3 min in, he's already lying by omission: the 74% figure for legally purchased guns in mass shootings is based on a couple studies that include only 114 mass shootings since like 1982.
There is no decided on definition of a mass shooting. Depending on the definition, there are anywhere from 3-168 in a year in the united states. And they only picked 100 or so in a 40 year span?
Even if we say there were only 50 on average per year, that would be 2000 mass shootings since 1982. Let's say there were only 10 mass shootings per year. That would still be 400 mass shootings verses the 111 they based the study on. In the best case scenario, they're obviously cherry picking which mass shootings to include in order to make the 74% stat true.
Even IF it's true that 74% of mass shooting were from legally obtained guns, the rate of crimes and murders committed with ILLEGAL guns OVERALL is like 94% with illegal guns, NOT legally-obtained.
ALSO, mass shooting make up like 1% of all homicides. So, he is taking advantage of emotional stories about mass shootings of kids in order to spin a narrative in your head about gun control because he thinks you're too dumb to understand statistics.
Face it people of the us. This is who you are. You will never change.
My school had a Resource Officer, he’d flip from telling you what you’re doing is a felony to trying to talk to you about Call of Duty. That man was one of the scariest people I’ve ever met because of his incredibly mellow attitude suddenly swapping to “cop mode”
My high school had an SRO, and the only thing I ever remember him doing is tackling a black kid and kneeling on them for a couple minutes because they raised their voice at a white kid. That man made me afraid of him, and I didn't know anyone who ever said they felt safer with him in the room.
I’m glad he mentions kids mental health. It’s an issue often ignored.
An issue ignored until that kid shoots up his school, after which we blame all people with mental health issues then continue doing absolutely nothing to solve either issue.
Cutting mental health funding in order to fund more cops in schools. (Shaking head)
it is absolutely ignored, it is more likely for a school to have a cop then a nurse and mental health professional.
This is true. I can't even imagine the mental damage being done to children around the country. Even more morbid, the students at the schools where the shootings happened are going to need to go through some serious therapy that I fear most cannot afford.
Mental health is an issue everywhere. Only in america children are gunned down at schools in mass numbers.
The problem is guns, stop deflecting.
'Some things don't look good on camera." Yeah, I imagine it doesn't feel good to have a grown man slam you to the ground and be knocked unconscious, either. Yet the second a room of full of little kids is being shot-up they just stand there.
Much easier to pick on unarmed children, I suppose. :-(
No they don't stand there, they obstruct and abuse the parents who have the guts and motivation to try and actually do something to rescue children. Cops are practically trained to be cowards, someone with a gun is an actual threat, as mentioned unarmed kids are much easier to control.
Yeah the real victim was the police officer who had to deal with the emotional trauma of knocking a student unconscious on the floor. Absolutely amazing stuff.
Except they dont just stand there, they turn around and run away as fast as they can
Being knocked unconscious indicates a TBI, which can have lasting consequences for learning and employment. That’s not a presence we need.
In British schools we have old infrastructure, no psychologists or therapists or any kind of official medical care apart from a few first aid kits
So does that mean if a student gets injured at school, the teachers just use a first aid kit? (Obviously assuming the injury's not bad enough to call an ambulance.)
What if a student gets sick at school or needs to take their medication? What if a student starts their first period and doesn't have a pad or tampon?
I'm from the US, and all of my K-12 public schools always had a campus nurse on duty every day.
The thought of a child being arrested at school for being disruptive is absurd and horrifying
When I was in highschool, there was a fight between two students (No weapons involved, no one was hurt, not a major fight)
The SRO decided the best way to stop the fight was to release the entire canister of his police grade pepper spray down the hall.
The entire hallway had to be evacuated. The two kids fighting got more injured from the SRO than each other. And multiple kids had asthma attacks from it, some of which did not have their inhalers on hand and were forced to take the long walk, outside in the heat (because they couldnt get back in through the hallway) to the front office to get their inhaler.
SROs are just cops with even less empathy for kids.
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@@selfhelp321 Not exactly but if you wanna look at it that way lmao
"SROs are just cops with even less empathy for kids" - and, probably, less capable than average cops, because what officer would prefer to be a school beat cop? Probably those who are past retirement age, or overweight and unable to hack it as real patrol officers, or too thick to pass advancement exams, or whose commanding officers just don't want them on the actual police force because they're just useless. Or all of the above. Yeah, _those_ are the right people to put in schools.
@@selfhelp321 😆 Whereas you have so much that you are prepared to make judgements like that with no evidence at all. Troll.
ACAB
I am a retired 24 year elementary school teacher. I worked for the Los Angeles Unified School District. Every word John Oliver uttered during this video rings true. I am moved to tears watching it.
Answer, please. WHO IS JIMMM?
@@DizzyBusy I sure don't know
Thanks for your service to all those kids over all those years 🙂
Thank you John for bringing this to light.
I'm not crying, YOU'RE crying 😭 Kids DESERVE TO BE KIDS👏👏👏 I WISH MORE PARENTS UNDERSTOOD THAT 👏
I'm a Norwegian guy that flew to El Paso, Texas to visit my girlfriend at the time. She was an exchange student there for 6 months at this point, and so she wanted to show me her school.
I went over in their lunch break, actually got a visitors badge/pass at the entrance, got told that everything was fine after explaining the situation.
We calmly walked around in the hallways just chatting, and then after about 2-3 minutes a cop came and waved me over to the exit.
Suddenly four more cops came over and surrounded me, and they had clicked open their gun holsters and had their hand on their guns.
(I was wearing shorts and a T-shirt.....)
The first guy then took my drivers license to make a paper copy of it, and then he told me to leave the school grounds, and if I even turned around, they would see it on their cameras and I would get arrested for trespassing. I had done nothing, and I was even wearing the schools own visitors badge/pass as they did this.
In Norway we can literally just casually walk into any classroom in any school and just chill. Nothing bad ever happens. Your schools seem like actual prisons..
They are dangerous prisons now. America seems to be dieing and for some reason they all keep looking the other way..
Europe, and Scandinavia in particular, seems to be far more civilized than any other part of the world. America, in contrast, seems far more uncivilized than even some undeveloped countries of the world.
If you had a visitor’s pass, then you had a right to be there
@@ninjaked1265 Not according to them (randomly) apparently. I didn't feel like starting a beef with cops in a foreign country
Weird. But it also seems very weird to just be able to walk into a school with no business being there. Good thing Mr. Epstein never visited.
When I was in high school in Alabama. A football player was suspected of having “something” in his truck. So the on campus police got a drug dog to say there was something! And the busted the kids windows truck, tore up the the floor, ripped out the console and basically destroyed this dude truck. To find nothing. He had nothing, there was no reason for them to do it!! And they still ended up arresting him! And he did nothing wrong!
must've had a pigment problem
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@@lilpenguin092 should have left his melanin in the truck
Sounds like they found something. The story you told is fictional
Do school police not need a warrant, like they would in any other situation?? How is this legal?
Great point at the end of the video John! Very well said.
I was undiagnosed as autistic when I was going to elementary school, and though I was otherwise a fantastic student, I did end up running into trouble during a meltdown or two. The first time, in third grade, I was handcuffed at both my wrist and ankle to a desk while they waited for my father to pick me up. Looking back, it was unnecessary, but it was more school negligence than police. The second, and far more significant to me, was in fourth grade, when I was pulled to an empty classroom and put into a restraint hold until I stopped crying. Mind you, I wasn't even 10 and being held to the floor with at least half the weight of an adult man on top of me with no witnesses.
I didn't know why I had those meltdowns until college. I didn't realize that my life was put at risk until even after that. I learned to adapt to those circumstances, thankfully, but they left me significantly worse off as an adult, and significantly more distrusting of authority.