I am a bit surprised by some of the comments, i guess they just didn't watch the whole thing but the video was not at all condemnatory. You do go hard on it, showing what alternatives exist to use for some components, but then end the video with a positive recommendation of it for that price. All in all, a pretty fair review and a good video. Personally to me, the rugged appearance is perfect because of how i look and how i dress and i will definitely be getting one of these, the front pocket one with the double side gussets for my canteens. As much as i would like to work directly with an artisan (have worked with a professional tailor before) leathercrafting is a whole different beast with a budget beyond my current means.
I appreciate this comment. Thank you for pointing out the real intention of my review. I never meant it to be bad or good, just an honest review of a particular style from a brand that I actually respect. Not every designer can get every design right, God knows most of mine fail, but I have always respected SB for putting out original designs.
My husband is a military officer and this aesthetic is perfect! Yes, he and I agree that the sleek look is much better for NY doctors and lawyers, but for a man who works in an office with professionals, but also has to throw 6 months of his gear into a cargo shipping container to live on a base somewhere in a desert-Saddleback is the best function and look out there. Thanks for the great review! 😊
I think the two bags are great for their respective clienteles. I'm a physician (surgeon) on the west coast who carriers a Saddlebag Thin Briefcase. I agree that some of their model lines are too rustic for my work environment, however this bag without outside front pockets reminiscent of cargo pants or multiple straps (which as you stated may be redundant) makes it reasonable for me to carry without issue. The nice thing about this bag, is that because the visible signs of wear are desirable, it is liberating in that I don't have to worry about scratches, scuffs, or marks as they become part of the look. The concern about the "drop" between the handle and the top of the bag becomes less of an issue over time as with stretch, I now have a good inch and a half and my knuckles are spared. I love this bag... That being said, your bags are beautiful and I can see myself coming to you for a hazel Habermas bag to have when I need a formal look. Thank you for a very informative and insightful take.
I am a saddleback client. What I’ve noticed with the style and community of saddleback this bag is supposed to be rustic. I love it. I can go camping, hiking, hunting, & to the office with my bag. In the Midwest, if you walk into a meeting with a saddleback, it catches the eye of the business man. True leather fans like the scars, the wear, and the character of the leather in my opinion. I would never walk around with a shiny briefcase. But that’s just my opinion.
I concur, as a fellow long time saddleback client. The rustic aesthetic of the leather gives each costumers item an individual character, unique to their own day to day life; it becomes personalised to us. The owner of this CZcams page highly disagrees with you hence the no love heart and no comment back 😅. Salty af.
@@timothyfreeman97 my leather is salty literally and I love it. Haha I made sure to say “opinion” a couple times. I like hearing reviews that are non bias so I’m all for the critiques. I’m just saying Saddleback is a niche leather company that makes leather for all clients and most of them love the patina as you know haha.
Carry this bag (in a darker color) every day in the Western United States and I've carried it around the world. The only downside is that you can't go anywhere without someone complimenting it.
First, what he's missing is that most of SBL's customers may not be Doctors and Lawyers! Second, the type of leather that wears, curls, scratches and have natural animal life marks are part of the appeal of their products. Third, All the metal rings serve multi purpose ideas that Doctors and Lawyers don't need. Fourth, the side straps are longer than the center strap for when the bag is over loaded or if a blanket roll or whatever else is captured across the top of the bag, it will still close and support the extra weight. These bags can hold a tremendous amount of weight! I have three SLB bags and I love them for the reasons that I bought them. Rugged, strong and versatile. I fly over 100,000 mile per year and on almost every flight, I get a compliment or an inquiry on my bag. (and that's in biz class where not everyone is a Doctor or Lawyer) The Marcellino bags are indeed beautiful but we are talking two completely different users and comparing them is not fair. Perspective is reality and in my opinion, the reviewer clearly does not posses the imagination to grasp perspective of who would be a buyer. (other than a collector or college kid that likes cool metal stuff} He totally missed the point of what some people might wanted from a review. I imagine they wanted a review, not a critique. You are comparing a low production $700 bag to a custom $2500 bag? Reallly?
1 - there are no unbiased reviews, they are all critiques. My opinion. I'm honest and upfront. 2 - i never compared SB to my Briefcases. no comparison. 3 - Scratches might be an appeal but they also degrade the leather in time 4 - I'v been in this business a long time and my "imagination" runs deep on who their buyer is - it is someone with little knowledge of high quality American made goods and very susceptible to simple marketing techniques 4 - BTW here is where I will educate you. that bag is not even a $700 bag it is literally the same as a $70 Chinese bag. I can have the same style and quality of leather made with my logo on it for under $100 and resell it to you for $700. they might even do the same. Here a manufacturer for you to do it too, you just got to be good at marketing like SB - www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Tricut-Business-Slim-Leather-Briefcase_62010349190.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.284.368a6a98sZOfB6
As a lawyer, I use my Saddleback briefcase when traveling. I’m not afraid to shove it under the seat in front of me on an airline. The fancy briefcase I got 20+ years ago as a law school graduation gift got scratched to heck after I traveled with it.
I think its a great review. I love to hear a honest OPINION, and especially when there is critique on the product. Too many people focus just on the positives while neglecting the negative. Again, great review.
If I had a Saddleback briefcase, I'd use it, not being afraid to scratch it and put it through the paces. If I had one of your bags, which are beautiful, I'd be afraid of scratching it.
This video has a lot of detail but it misses a key point, and Mr Marcellino acknowledges it up front. He is reviewing this from the point of view of a briefcase maker for lawyers, doctors, etc. There are many professions (like mine, I am an engineer and university professor) where briefcases of the style of SBL fit quite well. In fact, the JP Marcellino briefcases would not fit well in my profession. So the review, while good and interesting, is very much biased.
I forgot I even replied to this comment. I used to keep watching this video to fall asleep to. The sound of the leather, hes not screaming or yelling. Just turn it down a bit and enjoy.
Hmm. I guess it’s different styles. Idk to be honest, I like SBL because I’m not afraid to rough it up. A Maserati May be higher quality than a dodge truck, but if I’m gonna go on dirt roads, I want the dodge.
Good points from an expert. I see why now leathercrafters generally look down on Saddleback Leather and its deceptive marketing. I was getting ready to buy a SBL backpack but have decided to use that money to buy the tools, learn the craft, and one day build a backpack of my own specs.
I work in the humanitarian sector. in defense of the 'rugged briefcase' look, this is where this style fits well. I see it hauled around the world by folks working for groups like MSF or World Vision in urban and rural Africa or South America. The pros in those fields need a field bag for computers and notes. This style (chrome vs. vegetable) of tanned leather works well. For me, I've owned 3 saddleback bags and sold them all. Too heavy. So I bought Horween leather direct from Chicago as well as picked up some camel leather from a buddy and built my own bag to my own specs. Couldn't be happier. I went with solid brass hardware and copper rivets so it all ages fairly uniform. I'm not a pro but I hand cut, pricked and stitched it all by hand. Took 90 hrs. I'd recommend building your own bag. loads of fun and you can build it to hold exactly what you want. Mine was built for a 13 " computer and a 3.5" thick mirrorless DSLR camera. I couldn't afford to pay someone to build it for me but if you can afford the pros, that's even better if you aren't inclined to the craft. Kudos to Mr Marcellino for your target market, for high standards, and exacting purposes. Love it.
Great video! As a leather craftsman myself it reminds me that customer base is important when developing a brand. who is your target customer on average? what are their interests and needs specifically? if it is someone working in a high paying profession then clearly a brand like saddleback is not for them. however, if someone enjoys the rugged look that gives them a sense of tough times and rustic settings, then saddleback has designed a brand that really fits that persons style. You have done an incredible job designing a brand for your own customer base and that in itself keeps you in business. your bags are beautiful and clearly made to last a lifetime and more! saddleback makes mid tier bags designed for people that can pay mid tier prices. and they seem to do it very well. that being said, I agree completely on your stance of "see a craftsman first". people don't realize that paying more for a bag that will last lifetimes is worth it in the end! Thanks for the content! you earned a subscriber! I have no doubt that as I watch your videos I will learn a ton!
I thoroughly appreciate your review and I admire your work. One day I'll be coming to your shop for sure! I do have to say I still love my Saddleback bag regardless of the negatives. There are other rustic competitors, classier alternatives, but the brand is right up my alley. You had it right though. I am a college kid. Maybe I'll grow out of it, or maybe some of us just appreciate both worlds.
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I love my saddlebacks but I think you've made a new customer out of me. Your verrier bag is so nice looking. Definitely gotta get one. Different purposes than my saddlebacks. Thanks for this vid!
LOVE some SBL! Found this video looking for videos about the military dufflle. That’s my next buy with the and I’m getting little big mouth toiletry bag. $499 is a great price for the duffle and it comes with other organizer bags. The LBM bag is an add on. What I love about Saddleback is it’s an awesome product, fair price and great customer service.
East Coast snobbery. This style is popular in the West/Southwest. Business owners, contractors who are in environments that need a rugged case would carry this.
I've gotten to know a bit about Saddleback Leather company. They are so much more than a bag maker ; they are a movement. They employ hundreds in Leon Mexico, teaching them a skill and paying good wages in a place where jobs can be scarce and survival is hard. They provide childcare for their employees. They've opened a school that provides quality English-based education for little to no cost. The owners travel the world touching the lives of the impoverished. Their fans know they are part of something meaningful and getting complimented on their briefcase or backpack is a way to acknowledge that their purchases have an impact in this world. These are a few of many reasons to LOVE their products.
I don't think you understand the target market for SBL. the people these products are aimed at are not doctors, lawyers or people sitting in the board rooms. Hell I dont think the guy who owns the company had ever been in a big meeting until after he started SBL. Most of the people buying this style of bag are going to use it as an every day carry. They will use it to carry on their commute, in the office, at the lunch meeting at the park, when they travel and even probably grandmas christmas party. having see one in person they are good quality for what they are, but are over priced. I personally wouldn't buy SBL but I'm not buying a veg bag either cuz I'm gunna use it and abuse it. I want a Horween CXL lined with a good calf suede.
What a great review. You, Sir, are the genuine article. I know people and I can tell how passionate you are about the products that you make. I would use that particular bag as an overnight bag, not as a briefcase. It, unfortunately,is more money than I would spend on a bag like that. Your briefcases are exquisite. The leather that you use is wonderful. I’m retired so I really couldn’t use one of your briefcases. That doesn’t mean that I can’t appreciate it as a gorgeous work of art made with love by yourself. Lastly, I owned and operated a shoe store in the Old Town area of Chicago for 17 years. I grew to know and to love the Italian and Spanish made leather bags and shoes. If I lived in the New York area, I would surely want to meet you. You are the second Italian New Yorker that I “ran” into today. It was certainly a pleasure.
I LOVE some Saddleback Leather! ! I’ve got this bag in the darker color and love it. I This year I’m getting the military duffle that comes with the other two bags. $499 is a great price for that. Getting the Little Big Mouth toiletry bag as an add on.
This reviewed bag is on the rugged side. Saddleback’s Grandfather collection of hardsided luggage is amazing. Try getting through an airport or a hotel lobby without being stopped and your bag complimented, and asked where you got it.
This vid broke my heart 💔😅 for Saddleback is my Hero, hehe. I get it. At my age, I’ve been apart of enough industries (music, automotive, construction, food, etc.,) to know that every industry has a scale. And it slides from commercial/mass production to bespoke, custom, purist status. This sector seems to be no different.
When you get past the 20 effin minute commercial/rant in the beginning, there are plenty of good points. However having used mine for 3 years now, some of these points would be addressed differently if you had used it for a while. The style is very italian, "I used to do this but I've grown to be superior and do it differently now". Who uses the word 'retarded' in a review?
Thoroughly impressed. Thank you for being so honest, detailed, and for the leather and hardware class 101. Please keep them coming. I will keep watching and I will save my dollars for some good leather craftsman made items like yours!
I’m dying to know what kind of leather or finish the leather is on that briefcase pic on the wall at top right of the screen. I love that glossy finish and it would look so good on my projects.
Never heard of them, i just looked at their website. it is hard to give an opinion without physically seeing it but from a glance, that leather looks like bonded leather to me and most likely it is at that price point. keywords used is "real leather or genuine leather." UK has some great waxed canvas. overall seems ok for the price. and this "made in England" or even "made in the USA" thing, be aware - made in England by Chinese factory workers. I used to have bags made in NYC garment district, everyone was Chinese and most likely illegal. Made in NYC right? Best thing is to find a real craftsman and deal with him or her one on one.
As a leather craftsman I concur with your opinion. Unfinished edges are not something I would ever sell and feel good about. I also never use chrome tanned leather. Saddle stitching is the only way I stitch and of course it takes a LOT longer, but I believe the results are superior. It also looks better. Great review.
I work in I.T. Have carried the larger Front Picket Briefcase from Saddleback every day for the past 10 years packed to the gills with laptops, keyboards, mice, spools of CAT6 cable, pens, notebooks, tools and every network adapter you could possibly imagine. My bag probably weighs 40-50 pounds on any given day. None of the edges have frayed even a little. Never popped a rivet. Every couple months I take some leather milk to it and it looks better than new. Give me one of these fancy $3,000 briefcases and see how long it lasts. 😉
@@gregjohnson3811 says something when one company will back it up for 100 years with only the name on it as the warranty.....and the other will only warranty it for one year and only with proof of purchase. Concur with all you say here.
@@robertgreen9356 really? 100 year warranty are you that gullible or do you just not read and understand the fine print? I don't play the Warranty game because i don't make bags like this non American company that sells cheap goods. I make original American made art and me, I, stand behind my work not some company across the border with 100 year warranty gimmicks.
@@Jpmarcellino BWahahahahaha!!!!! If a product is made outside the US, it does not make that company a Non-US company. If that were true Ford, Apple, Converse, Nike are all Non-US companies. On the reverse Toyota, Honda, Subaru, Kia would then be US companies. Don't die on this hill. Be better......
I’m a college Dean with a doctorate so I would definite consider myself a professional. I also wear suits daily. I own and use my Saddleback Leather briefcase (I have the black one). It’s my daily bag and I love it.
I’m not a dude but I love bags and I previously tried to watch a Coach briefcase review and was surprised how little review there was, much like this video, and more brand bashing and personal business plugging there was going on. People own different brands and styles for different situations. The same guy who would wear this brief with some nice jeans might also opt for your style brief for another event or meeting. Doesn’t make it bad, just different. People are requesting a REVIEW not a rant lol. Oh and btw you stole your design from the Ralph Lauren Ricky bag.
Ha ha i just have to respond to this comment. Let me give you a little history on "bags you love" - The only thing similar to the Ricky bag and my designs is the round lock we both use which predates RL by about 100 years. Those lock designs were put on early English and American briefcases by real leather craftsman not the factory workers RL uses. That lock design is a Briefcase Makers lock design NOT a handbag makers so the designers at RL stole it from MY industry craftsman if you want to get technical. If you want to get more technical the locks they use are cheap imitations installed with prongs or screws and have fake rivets - the original locks i use are handmade by traditional craftsman from England or Italy and are made exactly the old way by being installed with rivets. It is funny to note that when a luxury exec and designer from RL came down to visit my workshop in hopes I would mass produce some of their bags which i declined because they are looking for cheap labor, we discussed that lock on my briefcases in length. and i agree the style doesn't "make it bad, just different" it is bad design that makes it bad.
Thanks a lot for detailed overview, I learn a lot about your craftsmanship, also about Saddleback products ... in fact, this convince me finally to order one of their bags from the other side of globe (expensive game). Seems to be a bit overpriced for what they offering, sure, on other hand I did not found anything with similar aesthetic last 10 years. You make very good point related to "too outdoorish" design, but I think this is exactly what convince me to choose SD products. I would like to differentiate myself from layers and doctors when wearing suites, rugged briefcase works well .-) It does not mean that I cant see how beautiful pieces you have created ... yours reasonable priced Thomas Moore has clean, minimalistic design and would definitely go with one as a corporate warrior .-)
I brought two used Saddleback leather bags (Water Bag and Side Pocket Duffle Bag) in like new condition and he threw in a small Top handle bag for $660. and I’m completely satisfied! I also have the Big Wallet from SaddleBack leather and have had other’s in the past. I’ve also seen lawyers with them. SaddleBack leather bags definitely gets compliments.
A big problem with the brand is that they've been caught cutting quality and raising prices several times. Overnight and without warning, they raised the prices on their entire line 40%+. Unfortunately, I was going to buy my first product from them and ditched the brand entirely. They priced themselves at a point where I refuse to pay their price for something made in Mexico. One thing that kept bothering me is the unfinished edges. They're not asking $100 for this, they're asking $700...made in Mexico.
To answer the question of who this bag is for -- it is for indiana Jones ... the college professor, world traveller archeologist, ass whipper, and overall badass dude!!!
1. I do not like how bulky it is. 2. I agree about the chrome tanned leather. It does have its place and I do have plenty of chrome tanned leather goods, but I would not get a chrome tanned briefcase. 3. I do not hate the three buckles, but I would prefer it with just two side ones. 4. I hate with passion, how the leather strap of the middle buckle goes passed the bottom of the briefcase. Just why? 5. I do not like that they outsourced their manufacturing to Mexico. 6. I do not like their choice of leather. It is not bad leather, but it is not good leather. I know they get it from a tannery in Mexico. I wish they would use an American tannery. 7. The metal ring for the backpack straps under the handle is a design flaw. 8. I would not have noticed the different metals, but after you pointed it out, I can't unsee it. 9. The outside side pockets are useless and ugly. 10. The idea of turning into a backpack is also bad. Buy a backpack if you want a backpack. The excess pieces make it look too busy. 11. I agree about the shoulder strap connectors: They should not be on the gussets. 12. Realistically, none of the rivets are going to fail. I understand that there are quality differences, but I liken it to dive watches. A dive watch rated at 12,000 meters is obviously much more durable than one rated at 200m, but how many people that buy dive watches are ever going to take it deeper than 10-15 feet, if even that? Same thing with this, if you use this bag for backpacking or like war, the rivet quality might fail after some time, but nobody would use this bag in war or for backpacking long distances. All of that being said, it is too expensive not to be using the best kind. 13. The edges should at least be burnished. They don't need to be painted, but at least burnish them. Overall, it is just too expensive for what it is. If they used a veg tanned leather from an American tannery, better rivets, and if they were making them in America, I would say that the price is worth it, but with the cheaper materials and the fact that they outsourced to Mexico, I do not see how they can justify the price tag.
Very good points. Sadly chrome-tan leather cannot be burnished*, only sealed with edge paint, because its tanning process has eaten away too much of the fiber for it to slick into a glossy edge.
I would think the SBL you can throw into the back of your 1960s pickup truck and not worry about it. An elegant briefcase I would have on the seat in my Bentley. So it depends on where you go. Same with Tricker’s and Crockett & Jones, if we wanted to compare them
Brother - exactly. This is for folks who are all hat and no cattle. I’m a forester and work outside often. I’d never use one of these. This is for people who want to pretend they have a ranch and own it.
I can understand criticism when it comes to quality, but not when it comes to the style. I mean, rustic look is their whole idea, so I don’t see the point of complaining that the bag looks too rustic. Some people prefer rustic look, others prefer more refined look, neither of them is “better” than the other as it’s a personal preference. But this is a very informative video, much appreciated!
There is nothing wrong with a rustic briefcase, i make them as well but as much as fashion is an opinion there are "wrong and right" things to wear with certain colors or fabrics and certain situations. I've developed My opinions from My experiences in the fashion industry. Most professionals do not have time to figure out what should be worn with what and when. That is why they need fashion advice. In this video I've given style and quality advice. This is especially important for young people entering the workforce or older ones caring about what others think of their fashion. if you want to be a rebel and wear what you wanna wear, more power to you but most people entering the workforce, especially corporate cannot afford to be a rebel and must conform and care about how they are perceived. In terms of "better" for example if you are a real estate agent and you want to sell me a million dollar property and you are dressed in rustic attire like jeans with a cheap briefcase from staples, i am suddenly going to think you have no clue and are broke and say no thank you. Same goes with a lawyer or doctor or any professional. That's the world. It sucks. And in this example refined IS better. When it comes to business fashion conformity IS better, so it is not a "personal preference." A briefcase is used primarily in business. I don't see why you would be carrying a briefcase if you have no business. It is a business persons utility and judged like the suit, tie and shoes. This is why a rustic style briefcase makes NO sense, unless you can afford to be a rebel in the business world.
@@Jpmarcellino well no I’d have to disagree with that. If you are a car mechanic or a horse saddler let’s say, that’s where a rustic briefcase like the saddleback style will turn people’s heads and may in fact attract more businesses. Because these businesses are tailored to more humble people to begin with. Whereas having a 2000 dollars shiny briefcase in these cases most people are going to think you are pompous and not trustworthy (I.e., you are some snob out there to get as much money out of people’s pockets as possible). So it really depends on what type of business. Yes for something like law or medical profession you’d want to get some really nice since you are already in the top tier class so carrying a rustic briefcase people are going to raise their eyebrows with a question mark on the back of their heads. My PhD professor (very famous in his field) carries a briefcase that’s also on the bit more rustic side. Not so extreme like this saddleback model but it’s a rustic worn dark dark brown leather (probably really old, I don’t know if it’s veg tanned or chrome tanned it looks a bit like crazy horse leather) with just a flap over it, no closure, and that bag inspired me to get my first custom made briefcase in that color. Mine is vertical briefcase, crazy horse Arcadia goucho leather, with a long flap and a strap on the bottom. I adore it. I got another briefcase that’s lighter weight from Italy with vegetable tanned aniline finished calfskin, hand stitched on the outside with a single running stitch and python sides. It’s a bit on the “rebel fashion” side but not exactly rustic rustic (e.g., it has no buckles) and it’s gorgeous and absolutely appropriate for my line of work. So there’s all types in between it’s not just shiny sleek vs saddleback rustic.
Great Review and honest opinion. There is no leather better then Veg Tanned..End Of Story! I like Saddleback leathers style and use to be a big fan. BUT...then I got a great handmade hand stitched bag made from Veg tanned leather and gave my saddleback to a friend. I wouldn't give my Veg Tanned bag for 10 of saddlebacks bags. There are alot of Saddleback groupies here that are Sad/Mad about the honest review of a True & Real leather Artisan. Thank you for the video J.P. Keep your craft alive!
The maximum price for this bag is $300. Here the leather is worth 100 dollars, it is tanned leather, it is not expensive. Accessories $50. 50 dollars for a worker to sew it. 100 profit
Thanks for the video! The only thing I don't understand why you are comparing the way SBL does it with the way you do it. You have a totally different style and quality, and the price difference that is quite big, but still you're comparing.
I have Saddleback products from 2013. Bought another bag in 2017. Leather quality WAY down. Hardware now steel rather than brass. The 2017 leather was spongy and light. The quality is not the same and MUCH cheaper.
Great review. I agree with most of it. Unfortunately, most people are TV programmed to only want something based on what some celebrity touts. If the average person knew their "high end" bag was made in a factory in Sri Lanka, Thailand, Malaysia, etc, by 100's of women making $2/hr they might not feel so puffed up about it. many of those brands originated in style houses and were made by craftsmen. Machine template cut parts, machine stitched parts, with a logo, is not worth the money they command. This guy makes real craft level items and I watch and listen, and try, and listen watch repeat. One day, I might produce a bag at his level, but I am not doing it to sell, but as gifts. I laugh at women spending $15,000.00 for a purse, soley to be seen or brag about it.
Good Review. I wouldn’t say it’s Retarded, LMAO, but it is amusing to hear such a detailed and opinionated assessment. I agree with some of the points but the greatest takeaway is that folks have different ideas of use. The Yankee accent, Religious, and Southern comments fit the profile perfectly. Like I say, I appreciate the blunt candor. I have quite a bit of Veg Tanned Leather and understand and appreciate the difference. You make a great point about the difference between making one briefcase at a time for a rich yankee atheist doctor or lawyer, and supplying a broad demand for retarded southern outdoorsmen, blue collar workers, and college kids in jeans. Down here “briefcase” is probably a bit of a misnomer. We don’t limit use of the Saddleback stuff to briefs, underwear or paper. I carry guns, tools, iPads, water bottles, cameras, lunch, ammunition, books, knives and such stuff. The Backpack adaptability being useful as well. As for the practicality of a College Kid spending $700 on such an item, I’d say it’s completely practical when The President is cancelling your student debt. When it comes to College, Practicality went away decades ago. So all in all I appreciated your detailed informative and entertaining opinion. ;)
Believe it or not us "Yankee atheists" carry guns in our briefcases too - and usually hold them sideways when taking aim... i have a great bulletproof and stab resident briefcase if you want to checkout. marcellinony.com/product/macarthur-1235-bulletproof-briefcase/ thanks for the comment, its all fun, i really like saddle back, but that briefcase is def built retarded.
@@Jpmarcellino I was noticing mine today, which I’ve had for 12 years, has the ring near the handle. The handle allows ring/ hand clearance easily and if the ring were lower on the back it would wear a hole in my pants when I carry it slung over my shoulder. I have several Tucker Saddles and I like the veg tanned leather, but the leather of this old Saddleback has definitely taken on the slick shiny appearance of veg tanned over the years. Mine never collapsed into a cloth like floppiness as others have noted. I carried it everyday to work for 10 years. It has served me well. It is nice to see American quality such as yours and I am glad you have the market to support your Craftsmanship. Keep up the good work.
I agree with most points, I think it would look far better using all the same metals, as well as eliminating all the unnecessary aspects like the side straps, bottle holders, and D-rings all over the place. Would really clean up the bag.
Marcellino’s review is bold on honest. I am a leather crafting hobbyist, and there’s just no comparison between saddlebacks bag and marcellino bag. You are comparing bridle leather to chrome tanned leather, saddle stitch to machine stitch, bespoke to mass production. People who said they prefer the saddleback has obviously no knowledge of leather what so ever. If you want rustic characteristics and good quality, go with horween that is saddle stitched at minimum. Mass produce stuff for 700 dollars? I would rather add another 400dollars to buy a baseline handcraft model made of veg tanned leather
Saddleback is the brand everyone gets fooled with on their first piece. The ironic thing is, the concepts saddleback sells you is the reason people end up going with something else the next time
Good review, but ditch the word 'retarded' as a descriptor. I'm not saying you're a bad guy, I grew up hearing it and saying it too, but times change, eh? Other words : illogical, inconsistent, short-sighted, ill-conceived, absurd, irrational, senseless, unreasonable, wrong, incorrect, preposterous, ridiculous, etc. I did check out your website though, and it looks like you build a lot of great stuff. Not trying to make a big deal about the language, you're obviously a respectable guy that's not trying to talk bad about anyone, cheers.
Shame on SB for making in Mexico with Mexico Leather . Another review said they raised prices . Their own page claims the leather is Veg Tan .. your review might have got them to change leather and raise prices . I hope they pay the workers a good living wage . I saw the SB bag .. or a knock off Sunday on 60 minutes . It belonged to a US Marshall .. if you want an AMERICAN bag ... there are 100 s of starving Saddle Makers / Boot Makers out there who can make a better custom in what ever style you want . And probably for less $
03:20 "But for me any religion is too religious." Amen, brother, amen! "I love talking about this subject." No kidding! When I first started watching your video, I thought it might be overly long and too repetitive, but it was so informative that I soon didn't mind. If, after watching, consumers want to buy a Saddleback, at least they'll have a solid base of information to factor into their decision.
I'm sorry but after yapping for the first 2 minutes, I clicked off because I couldn't take you seriously. Just get to the point, especially if you're video is 45 minutes long!
I think this guy is knowledgeable but way too biased towards his target demographic. 1) Most Americans today can’t even cover a $500 emergency expense without putting it on a credit card, let alone afford a $2000-3000 briefcase. 2) Most Americans aren’t lawyers and doctors, and don’t need an ultra-refined $3000 briefcase. I think most average Americans don’t even like the style and fashion associated with upscale luxury bags. They might be clean and simple, but they’re boring in comparison to an Indiana Jones-style briefcase like Saddleback. 3) people like functionality. Saddleback’s briefcases probably outcompete this guy’s products in the functionality department. 4) Chrome tanned leather is superior to vegetable tanned leather. The Cr salts form inner-sphere complexes with the carboxyl moieties in the collagen fibers (through dative bonding mechanisms), and act as a polymerization catalyst linking the fibers together. This makes them more thermally and chemically stable, and you don’t have to worry about it getting rained on and staining so easily. If a saddleback briefcase gets rained on, it’s completely fine. If a $3000 vegetable tanned briefcase gets rained on, it might ruin it lol. Saddlebacks products might be made in a factory, but they cater to the average American. They make rugged, durable, and stylish briefcases accessible to the masses, and these types of products is what fuels the industry. Not the part time leather craftsman who only caters to the upper class.
well. i think it a little unfair to compare a saddleback briefcase you your masterpieces. i think the saddleback briefcases are cool, just not my style at all.
It is hard to do a review and not compare my briefcases which are my experiences in this art form. I try not to because i want to offer a genuine perspective from a maker as opposed to the majority of reviews coming from users or "paid users" which seem like a lot. I always get offers for me to send my bags so people can review them for a price. I've never done that. I think both types of reviews (maker and user) have their value. I'm always upfront. I'm not trying to put something down for the sake of putting it down so i can sell my product. To me it is not even a product it is my original artwork that i put out in the world. Like you said a masterpiece. I would rather compare my work to a painter or musician as opposed to something that is mass produced and i honestly try not to.
I really like your review but I do not agree about the quality. The hardware is very cheap compared to the hardware on many if the high end manufacturers. I must admit the level of appreciation of quality is different from Europe and America
Does this guy not get that they are a Saddleback Leather is for the rugged outdoors man or woman? Versatility is what they are meant for. I'll take a $700 Saddleback over his fancy pansy briefcase. Most lawyers or doctors prefer quality rugged over quality pretty.
I literally wouldn't buy a briefcase from you simply because of your attitude and personality. You act genuinely pissed off and I'm not sure why. A lawyer comments on your video saying he likes his SBC case and you mock him and his piece? Get a life, man.
LOL, like I would ever sell one to you. I wouldn't sell one to you simply because of the way you are falsely portraying me. I never mocked anyone that did not FIRST disrespect me. NEVER. I defend myself and trolls like you get their panties all bunched up when I do. If you are going to read these stupid comments at least tell the truth. I'm genuinely pissed off, yes, because i gave an honest review of SBL, which i even said some good things but there are people trying to discredit my voice and lie like you when all I've been was honest and said the same thing if you don't like the review prove me wrong in what i said.
You sound extremely bitter. And, after watching your ENTIRE 45 minute review, I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on how you are. One year ago, in a comment just below mine, an account called Arch Law Firm, or something similar, commented that he carried his SBL case into court all the time and has gotten several compliments on it. You said "ha ha ha! Are you really a lawyer? I never met a lawyer who'd use the words drool in..." and you mocked him. And damn right you'd sell to me if I flopped out the $2,000 for a briefcase that you no doubt demand. But that's OK, my Saddleback Leather Barrister, that I paid $789 for just came in the mail last week. It's my very first piece and I love it. I don't care how much I paid. Good luck with your endeavors. Try not to be so bitter and you'll like sell more. Your salesmanship is really rusty.
Lol, as a side note, I'm brand new to leather. Just decided to do some research and see what was out there. So I watched your video. But, my God man, you need to relax. You call me a troll? Nah, just a guy with cash in his pocket looking to spend, watching you get uber pissed on camera and laughing.
dude, if you think your 2k would move me learn some more about leather and me. I don't sell bags like SBL i create art, know the difference. me not agreeing with his "drool" statement wasn't a mocking, it was my opinion, know the difference. You paid $789 for a bag made in Mexico which is an equivalent bag that I can have manufactured in China for $50 - a sucker is born every day - now that's a mocking lol one day when you understand what quality is and you want one of my bags, mark my words, i will only charge you double the price. I doubt you have it like that to even spend half the price but i will charge 2x and put you on a 12 month wait list. good luck with your highly replicated leather bag.
Lol, the different between me and you is I'm just happy. Happy with my life. Happy with my bag. I didn't buy a piece of art. I bought a bag, just like I intended. LOL! Lol, I'll leave you alone now but first.... I admire men of talent and expression. I admire people who pour their heart and soul into what they do. I look up to men of passion. But you're bitter, angry, resentful and strange. Everything about you turns me off of you and makes me think very poorly of your leather work, even if it is high quality. You stain your own reputation and give yourself a black eye and make even your great leather work look second rate. Be better.
SBL is just garbage. Chrome tanned junk. Quality control is lousy, you never know what you are going to get. Mass produced, kool-aid and sad. Rugged design aside, the leather looks dirty and like an old pile of rags after being used.
I am a bit surprised by some of the comments, i guess they just didn't watch the whole thing but the video was not at all condemnatory.
You do go hard on it, showing what alternatives exist to use for some components, but then end the video with a positive recommendation of it for that price. All in all, a pretty fair review and a good video.
Personally to me, the rugged appearance is perfect because of how i look and how i dress and i will definitely be getting one of these, the front pocket one with the double side gussets for my canteens. As much as i would like to work directly with an artisan (have worked with a professional tailor before) leathercrafting is a whole different beast with a budget beyond my current means.
I appreciate this comment. Thank you for pointing out the real intention of my review. I never meant it to be bad or good, just an honest review of a particular style from a brand that I actually respect. Not every designer can get every design right, God knows most of mine fail, but I have always respected SB for putting out original designs.
My husband is a military officer and this aesthetic is perfect! Yes, he and I agree that the sleek look is much better for NY doctors and lawyers, but for a man who works in an office with professionals, but also has to throw 6 months of his gear into a cargo shipping container to live on a base somewhere in a desert-Saddleback is the best function and look out there. Thanks for the great review! 😊
oh yes!
I think the two bags are great for their respective clienteles. I'm a physician (surgeon) on the west coast who carriers a Saddlebag Thin Briefcase. I agree that some of their model lines are too rustic for my work environment, however this bag without outside front pockets reminiscent of cargo pants or multiple straps (which as you stated may be redundant) makes it reasonable for me to carry without issue. The nice thing about this bag, is that because the visible signs of wear are desirable, it is liberating in that I don't have to worry about scratches, scuffs, or marks as they become part of the look. The concern about the "drop" between the handle and the top of the bag becomes less of an issue over time as with stretch, I now have a good inch and a half and my knuckles are spared. I love this bag...
That being said, your bags are beautiful and I can see myself coming to you for a hazel Habermas bag to have when I need a formal look. Thank you for a very informative and insightful take.
I am a saddleback client. What I’ve noticed with the style and community of saddleback this bag is supposed to be rustic. I love it. I can go camping, hiking, hunting, & to the office with my bag. In the Midwest, if you walk into a meeting with a saddleback, it catches the eye of the business man.
True leather fans like the scars, the wear, and the character of the leather in my opinion. I would never walk around with a shiny briefcase. But that’s just my opinion.
I concur, as a fellow long time saddleback client. The rustic aesthetic of the leather gives each costumers item an individual character, unique to their own day to day life; it becomes personalised to us.
The owner of this CZcams page highly disagrees with you hence the no love heart and no comment back 😅. Salty af.
@@timothyfreeman97 my leather is salty literally and I love it. Haha I made sure to say “opinion” a couple times. I like hearing reviews that are non bias so I’m all for the critiques. I’m just saying Saddleback is a niche leather company that makes leather for all clients and most of them love the patina as you know haha.
Carry this bag (in a darker color) every day in the Western United States and I've carried it around the world. The only downside is that you can't go anywhere without someone complimenting it.
First, what he's missing is that most of SBL's customers may not be Doctors and Lawyers!
Second, the type of leather that wears, curls, scratches and have natural animal life marks are part of the appeal of their products.
Third, All the metal rings serve multi purpose ideas that Doctors and Lawyers don't need.
Fourth, the side straps are longer than the center strap for when the bag is over loaded or if a blanket roll or whatever else is captured across the top of the bag, it will still close and support the extra weight. These bags can hold a tremendous amount of weight! I have three SLB bags and I love them for the reasons that I bought them. Rugged, strong and versatile. I fly over 100,000 mile per year and on almost every flight, I get a compliment or an inquiry on my bag. (and that's in biz class where not everyone is a Doctor or Lawyer) The Marcellino bags are indeed beautiful but we are talking two completely different users and comparing them is not fair. Perspective is reality and in my opinion, the reviewer clearly does not posses the imagination to grasp perspective of who would be a buyer. (other than a collector or college kid that likes cool metal stuff}
He totally missed the point of what some people might wanted from a review. I imagine they wanted a review, not a critique.
You are comparing a low production $700 bag to a custom $2500 bag? Reallly?
1 - there are no unbiased reviews, they are all critiques. My opinion. I'm honest and upfront.
2 - i never compared SB to my Briefcases. no comparison.
3 - Scratches might be an appeal but they also degrade the leather in time
4 - I'v been in this business a long time and my "imagination" runs deep on who their buyer is - it is someone with little knowledge of high quality American made goods and very susceptible to simple marketing techniques
4 - BTW here is where I will educate you. that bag is not even a $700 bag it is literally the same as a $70 Chinese bag. I can have the same style and quality of leather made with my logo on it for under $100 and resell it to you for $700. they might even do the same. Here a manufacturer for you to do it too, you just got to be good at marketing like SB - www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Tricut-Business-Slim-Leather-Briefcase_62010349190.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.284.368a6a98sZOfB6
@@Jpmarcellino “it is literally the same as a $70 Chinese bag.”
Uh no. When you make statements like that you damage your own credibility.
As a lawyer, I use my Saddleback briefcase when traveling. I’m not afraid to shove it under the seat in front of me on an airline. The fancy briefcase I got 20+ years ago as a law school graduation gift got scratched to heck after I traveled with it.
I think its a great review. I love to hear a honest OPINION, and especially when there is critique on the product. Too many people focus just on the positives while neglecting the negative. Again, great review.
Thanks for watching!
If I had a Saddleback briefcase, I'd use it, not being afraid to scratch it and put it through the paces. If I had one of your bags, which are beautiful, I'd be afraid of scratching it.
Yep. And that’s why SBLs bags are great. I want to rough them up. (:
Shoe polish?
This video has a lot of detail but it misses a key point, and Mr Marcellino acknowledges it up front. He is reviewing this from the point of view of a briefcase maker for lawyers, doctors, etc. There are many professions (like mine, I am an engineer and university professor) where briefcases of the style of SBL fit quite well. In fact, the JP Marcellino briefcases would not fit well in my profession. So the review, while good and interesting, is very much biased.
Ever since you pointed out the mismatched hardware, I can’t unsee it on these bags.
Wow - very good review. Really educational and taught me a lot. Thank you very much!
I've tried to watch this video 7 times. I fall asleep every time.
It’s like asmr. (:
at least you gave it 7 times, but keep trying you'll get it eventually
I forgot I even replied to this comment. I used to keep watching this video to fall asleep to. The sound of the leather, hes not screaming or yelling. Just turn it down a bit and enjoy.
Hmm. I guess it’s different styles. Idk to be honest, I like SBL because I’m not afraid to rough it up. A Maserati May be higher quality than a dodge truck, but if I’m gonna go on dirt roads, I want the dodge.
Good points from an expert. I see why now leathercrafters generally look down on Saddleback Leather and its deceptive marketing.
I was getting ready to buy a SBL backpack but have decided to use that money to buy the tools, learn the craft, and one day build a backpack of my own specs.
I work in the humanitarian sector. in defense of the 'rugged briefcase' look, this is where this style fits well. I see it hauled around the world by folks working for groups like MSF or World Vision in urban and rural Africa or South America. The pros in those fields need a field bag for computers and notes. This style (chrome vs. vegetable) of tanned leather works well. For me, I've owned 3 saddleback bags and sold them all. Too heavy. So I bought Horween leather direct from Chicago as well as picked up some camel leather from a buddy and built my own bag to my own specs. Couldn't be happier. I went with solid brass hardware and copper rivets so it all ages fairly uniform. I'm not a pro but I hand cut, pricked and stitched it all by hand. Took 90 hrs. I'd recommend building your own bag. loads of fun and you can build it to hold exactly what you want. Mine was built for a 13
" computer and a 3.5" thick mirrorless DSLR camera. I couldn't afford to pay someone to build it for me but if you can afford the pros, that's even better if you aren't inclined to the craft. Kudos to Mr Marcellino for your target market, for high standards, and exacting purposes. Love it.
Great video! As a leather craftsman myself it reminds me that customer base is important when developing a brand. who is your target customer on average? what are their interests and needs specifically? if it is someone working in a high paying profession then clearly a brand like saddleback is not for them. however, if someone enjoys the rugged look that gives them a sense of tough times and rustic settings, then saddleback has designed a brand that really fits that persons style. You have done an incredible job designing a brand for your own customer base and that in itself keeps you in business. your bags are beautiful and clearly made to last a lifetime and more! saddleback makes mid tier bags designed for people that can pay mid tier prices. and they seem to do it very well. that being said, I agree completely on your stance of "see a craftsman first". people don't realize that paying more for a bag that will last lifetimes is worth it in the end! Thanks for the content! you earned a subscriber! I have no doubt that as I watch your videos I will learn a ton!
I thoroughly appreciate your review and I admire your work. One day I'll be coming to your shop for sure!
I do have to say I still love my Saddleback bag regardless of the negatives. There are other rustic competitors, classier alternatives, but the brand is right up my alley.
You had it right though. I am a college kid. Maybe I'll grow out of it, or maybe some of us just appreciate both worlds.
I love my saddlebacks but I think you've made a new customer out of me. Your verrier bag is so nice looking. Definitely gotta get one. Different purposes than my saddlebacks. Thanks for this vid!
Glad you like them!
I think I just saw a man compare classical music to easy listening jazz or country music .. different characters, come on
LOVE some SBL! Found this video looking for videos about the military dufflle. That’s my next buy with the and I’m getting little big mouth toiletry bag. $499 is a great price for the duffle and it comes with other organizer bags. The LBM bag is an add on. What I love about Saddleback is it’s an awesome product, fair price and great customer service.
East Coast snobbery. This style is popular in the West/Southwest. Business owners, contractors who are in environments that need a rugged case would carry this.
I've gotten to know a bit about Saddleback Leather company. They are so much more than a bag maker ; they are a movement. They employ hundreds in Leon Mexico, teaching them a skill and paying good wages in a place where jobs can be scarce and survival is hard. They provide childcare for their employees. They've opened a school that provides quality English-based education for little to no cost. The owners travel the world touching the lives of the impoverished. Their fans know they are part of something meaningful and getting complimented on their briefcase or backpack is a way to acknowledge that their purchases have an impact in this world. These are a few of many reasons to LOVE their products.
I don't think you understand the target market for SBL. the people these products are aimed at are not doctors, lawyers or people sitting in the board rooms. Hell I dont think the guy who owns the company had ever been in a big meeting until after he started SBL.
Most of the people buying this style of bag are going to use it as an every day carry. They will use it to carry on their commute, in the office, at the lunch meeting at the park, when they travel and even probably grandmas christmas party. having see one in person they are good quality for what they are, but are over priced. I personally wouldn't buy SBL but I'm not buying a veg bag either cuz I'm gunna use it and abuse it. I want a Horween CXL lined with a good calf suede.
Hi. Can you provide examples of the briefs that you recommend?
Very, very beautiful!!!
What a great review. You, Sir, are the genuine article. I know people and I can tell how passionate you are about the products that you make. I would use that particular bag as an overnight bag, not as a briefcase. It, unfortunately,is more money than I would spend on a bag like that. Your briefcases are exquisite. The leather that you use is wonderful. I’m retired so I really couldn’t use one of your briefcases. That doesn’t mean that I can’t appreciate it as a gorgeous work of art made with love by yourself. Lastly, I owned and operated a shoe store in the Old Town area of Chicago for 17 years. I grew to know and to love the Italian and Spanish made leather bags and shoes. If I lived in the New York area, I would surely want to meet you. You are the second Italian New Yorker that I “ran” into today. It was certainly a pleasure.
If I ever make it to Chicago… we should talk bags
I LOVE some Saddleback Leather! ! I’ve got this bag in the darker color and love it. I This year I’m getting the military duffle that comes with the other two bags. $499 is a great price for that. Getting the Little Big Mouth toiletry bag as an add on.
Thanks for breaking it down for those of us who like nice things.
This reviewed bag is on the rugged side. Saddleback’s Grandfather collection of hardsided luggage is amazing. Try getting through an airport or a hotel lobby without being stopped and your bag complimented, and asked where you got it.
This vid broke my heart 💔😅 for Saddleback is my Hero, hehe.
I get it. At my age, I’ve been apart of enough industries (music, automotive, construction, food, etc.,) to know that every industry has a scale. And it slides from commercial/mass production to bespoke, custom, purist status. This sector seems to be no different.
When you get past the 20 effin minute commercial/rant in the beginning, there are plenty of good points. However having used mine for 3 years now, some of these points would be addressed differently if you had used it for a while. The style is very italian, "I used to do this but I've grown to be superior and do it differently now". Who uses the word 'retarded' in a review?
Where can I buy the bifurcated rivets??? I’ve tried many places and can’t find the right ones
Thoroughly impressed. Thank you for being so honest, detailed, and for the leather and hardware class 101. Please keep them coming. I will keep watching and I will save my dollars for some good leather craftsman made items like yours!
I’m dying to know what kind of leather or finish the leather is on that briefcase pic on the wall at top right of the screen. I love that glossy finish and it would look so good on my projects.
Hi. I'd love to hear your opinions on Billingham camera bags, which are made in England. Thanks.
Never heard of them, i just looked at their website. it is hard to give an opinion without physically seeing it but from a glance, that leather looks like bonded leather to me and most likely it is at that price point. keywords used is "real leather or genuine leather." UK has some great waxed canvas. overall seems ok for the price.
and this "made in England" or even "made in the USA" thing, be aware - made in England by Chinese factory workers. I used to have bags made in NYC garment district, everyone was Chinese and most likely illegal. Made in NYC right? Best thing is to find a real craftsman and deal with him or her one on one.
Good lesson👍🏻
Was this really a review, or a style bash?
It's called a saddleback. It's for me on my motorcycle.
As a leather craftsman I concur with your opinion. Unfinished edges are not something I would ever sell and feel good about. I also never use chrome tanned leather. Saddle stitching is the only way I stitch and of course it takes a LOT longer, but I believe the results are superior. It also looks better. Great review.
I work in I.T. Have carried the larger Front Picket Briefcase from Saddleback every day for the past 10 years packed to the gills with laptops, keyboards, mice, spools of CAT6 cable, pens, notebooks, tools and every network adapter you could possibly imagine. My bag probably weighs 40-50 pounds on any given day.
None of the edges have frayed even a little. Never popped a rivet. Every couple months I take some leather milk to it and it looks better than new. Give me one of these fancy $3,000 briefcases and see how long it lasts. 😉
@@gregjohnson3811 It will last longer. Marcellino is exceptionally high quality in leather and craftsmanship.
@@gregjohnson3811 says something when one company will back it up for 100 years with only the name on it as the warranty.....and the other will only warranty it for one year and only with proof of purchase. Concur with all you say here.
@@robertgreen9356 really? 100 year warranty are you that gullible or do you just not read and understand the fine print? I don't play the Warranty game because i don't make bags like this non American company that sells cheap goods. I make original American made art and me, I, stand behind my work not some company across the border with 100 year warranty gimmicks.
@@Jpmarcellino BWahahahahaha!!!!! If a product is made outside the US, it does not make that company a Non-US company. If that were true Ford, Apple, Converse, Nike are all Non-US companies. On the reverse Toyota, Honda, Subaru, Kia would then be US companies. Don't die on this hill. Be better......
I’m a college Dean with a doctorate so I would definite consider myself a professional. I also wear suits daily. I own and use my Saddleback Leather briefcase (I have the black one). It’s my daily bag and I love it.
I’m not a dude but I love bags and I previously tried to watch a Coach briefcase review and was surprised how little review there was, much like this video, and more brand bashing and personal business plugging there was going on. People own different brands and styles for different situations. The same guy who would wear this brief with some nice jeans might also opt for your style brief for another event or meeting. Doesn’t make it bad, just different. People are requesting a REVIEW not a rant lol. Oh and btw you stole your design from the Ralph Lauren Ricky bag.
Ha ha i just have to respond to this comment. Let me give you a little history on "bags you love" - The only thing similar to the Ricky bag and my designs is the round lock we both use which predates RL by about 100 years. Those lock designs were put on early English and American briefcases by real leather craftsman not the factory workers RL uses. That lock design is a Briefcase Makers lock design NOT a handbag makers so the designers at RL stole it from MY industry craftsman if you want to get technical. If you want to get more technical the locks they use are cheap imitations installed with prongs or screws and have fake rivets - the original locks i use are handmade by traditional craftsman from England or Italy and are made exactly the old way by being installed with rivets.
It is funny to note that when a luxury exec and designer from RL came down to visit my workshop in hopes I would mass produce some of their bags which i declined because they are looking for cheap labor, we discussed that lock on my briefcases in length.
and i agree the style doesn't "make it bad, just different" it is bad design that makes it bad.
Thanks a lot for detailed overview, I learn a lot about your craftsmanship, also about Saddleback products ... in fact, this convince me finally to order one of their bags from the other side of globe (expensive game). Seems to be a bit overpriced for what they offering, sure, on other hand I did not found anything with similar aesthetic last 10 years.
You make very good point related to "too outdoorish" design, but I think this is exactly what convince me to choose SD products. I would like to differentiate myself from layers and doctors when wearing suites, rugged briefcase works well .-)
It does not mean that I cant see how beautiful pieces you have created ... yours reasonable priced Thomas Moore has clean, minimalistic design and would definitely go with one as a corporate warrior .-)
thank you
Fair enough.
I will be heading over to SBL now. Sounds perfect.
I brought two used Saddleback leather bags (Water Bag and Side Pocket Duffle Bag) in like new condition and he threw in a small Top handle bag for $660. and I’m completely satisfied! I also have the Big Wallet from SaddleBack leather and have had other’s in the past. I’ve also seen lawyers with them. SaddleBack leather bags definitely gets compliments.
A big problem with the brand is that they've been caught cutting quality and raising prices several times. Overnight and without warning, they raised the prices on their entire line 40%+. Unfortunately, I was going to buy my first product from them and ditched the brand entirely. They priced themselves at a point where I refuse to pay their price for something made in Mexico.
One thing that kept bothering me is the unfinished edges. They're not asking $100 for this, they're asking $700...made in Mexico.
Do you know why their bags are made in Mexico and the work being done there? I bet if you did, you wouldn’t complain.
To answer the question of who this bag is for -- it is for indiana Jones ... the college professor, world traveller archeologist, ass whipper, and overall badass dude!!!
are you one of those? do you own a SB?
People who live in Texas usually don't care about suits. It's too hot here to wear one, you would MELT!
As a family doctor…now I feel bad for liking this bag LOL
If you're wanting the review like the title says skip to 7:30...
There's a sbl fans group on Facebook
And yes, some of them are lawyer's and a doctor
1. I do not like how bulky it is.
2. I agree about the chrome tanned leather. It does have its place and I do have plenty of chrome tanned leather goods, but I would not get a chrome tanned briefcase.
3. I do not hate the three buckles, but I would prefer it with just two side ones.
4. I hate with passion, how the leather strap of the middle buckle goes passed the bottom of the briefcase. Just why?
5. I do not like that they outsourced their manufacturing to Mexico.
6. I do not like their choice of leather. It is not bad leather, but it is not good leather. I know they get it from a tannery in Mexico. I wish they would use an American tannery.
7. The metal ring for the backpack straps under the handle is a design flaw.
8. I would not have noticed the different metals, but after you pointed it out, I can't unsee it.
9. The outside side pockets are useless and ugly.
10. The idea of turning into a backpack is also bad. Buy a backpack if you want a backpack. The excess pieces make it look too busy.
11. I agree about the shoulder strap connectors: They should not be on the gussets.
12. Realistically, none of the rivets are going to fail. I understand that there are quality differences, but I liken it to dive watches. A dive watch rated at 12,000 meters is obviously much more durable than one rated at 200m, but how many people that buy dive watches are ever going to take it deeper than 10-15 feet, if even that? Same thing with this, if you use this bag for backpacking or like war, the rivet quality might fail after some time, but nobody would use this bag in war or for backpacking long distances. All of that being said, it is too expensive not to be using the best kind.
13. The edges should at least be burnished. They don't need to be painted, but at least burnish them.
Overall, it is just too expensive for what it is. If they used a veg tanned leather from an American tannery, better rivets, and if they were making them in America, I would say that the price is worth it, but with the cheaper materials and the fact that they outsourced to Mexico, I do not see how they can justify the price tag.
Very good points.
Sadly chrome-tan leather cannot be burnished*, only sealed with edge paint, because its tanning process has eaten away too much of the fiber for it to slick into a glossy edge.
The other brown tones from saddleback are smooth as you describe your leather to be, the one you are reviewing has been sanded to be rough
Carried one as a social worker
Your review makes sense even though bias
I'd carry that bag to the gun range. It would age well, and looks badass. But, no, I'm not walking around in a suit with it.
I billed 2400 hours last year and I carry Saddleback daily. That said, I will be purchasing one of his shortly.
I would think the SBL you can throw into the back of your 1960s pickup truck and not worry about it. An elegant briefcase I would have on the seat in my Bentley. So it depends on where you go. Same with Tricker’s and Crockett & Jones, if we wanted to compare them
Brother - exactly. This is for folks who are all hat and no cattle. I’m a forester and work outside often. I’d never use one of these. This is for people who want to pretend they have a ranch and own it.
Rustic!! Thats me, Don't like the shiny leather. Good Review.
Fred Armisen should play this guy in the movie version of this review.
What is the name of the bag shown here , part number or something
I can understand criticism when it comes to quality, but not when it comes to the style. I mean, rustic look is their whole idea, so I don’t see the point of complaining that the bag looks too rustic. Some people prefer rustic look, others prefer more refined look, neither of them is “better” than the other as it’s a personal preference.
But this is a very informative video, much appreciated!
There is nothing wrong with a rustic briefcase, i make them as well but as much as fashion is an opinion there are "wrong and right" things to wear with certain colors or fabrics and certain situations. I've developed My opinions from My experiences in the fashion industry. Most professionals do not have time to figure out what should be worn with what and when. That is why they need fashion advice. In this video I've given style and quality advice. This is especially important for young people entering the workforce or older ones caring about what others think of their fashion. if you want to be a rebel and wear what you wanna wear, more power to you but most people entering the workforce, especially corporate cannot afford to be a rebel and must conform and care about how they are perceived.
In terms of "better" for example if you are a real estate agent and you want to sell me a million dollar property and you are dressed in rustic attire like jeans with a cheap briefcase from staples, i am suddenly going to think you have no clue and are broke and say no thank you. Same goes with a lawyer or doctor or any professional. That's the world. It sucks. And in this example refined IS better.
When it comes to business fashion conformity IS better, so it is not a "personal preference." A briefcase is used primarily in business. I don't see why you would be carrying a briefcase if you have no business. It is a business persons utility and judged like the suit, tie and shoes. This is why a rustic style briefcase makes NO sense, unless you can afford to be a rebel in the business world.
@@Jpmarcellino well no I’d have to disagree with that. If you are a car mechanic or a horse saddler let’s say, that’s where a rustic briefcase like the saddleback style will turn people’s heads and may in fact attract more businesses. Because these businesses are tailored to more humble people to begin with. Whereas having a 2000 dollars shiny briefcase in these cases most people are going to think you are pompous and not trustworthy (I.e., you are some snob out there to get as much money out of people’s pockets as possible). So it really depends on what type of business. Yes for something like law or medical profession you’d want to get some really nice since you are already in the top tier class so carrying a rustic briefcase people are going to raise their eyebrows with a question mark on the back of their heads. My PhD professor (very famous in his field) carries a briefcase that’s also on the bit more rustic side. Not so extreme like this saddleback model but it’s a rustic worn dark dark brown leather (probably really old, I don’t know if it’s veg tanned or chrome tanned it looks a bit like crazy horse leather) with just a flap over it, no closure, and that bag inspired me to get my first custom made briefcase in that color. Mine is vertical briefcase, crazy horse Arcadia goucho leather, with a long flap and a strap on the bottom. I adore it. I got another briefcase that’s lighter weight from Italy with vegetable tanned aniline finished calfskin, hand stitched on the outside with a single running stitch and python sides. It’s a bit on the “rebel fashion” side but not exactly rustic rustic (e.g., it has no buckles) and it’s gorgeous and absolutely appropriate for my line of work. So there’s all types in between it’s not just shiny sleek vs saddleback rustic.
@@rangefinderz5135 that's cool. As a briefcase maker I just wear jeans.
doctor's don't have convincing to do? or lying for that matter, really? you're not in the plastic surgery field are you?
@@rangefinderz5135
Great Review and honest opinion. There is no leather better then Veg Tanned..End Of Story!
I like Saddleback leathers style and use to be a big fan.
BUT...then I got a great handmade hand stitched bag made from Veg tanned leather and gave my saddleback to a friend.
I wouldn't give my Veg Tanned bag for 10 of saddlebacks bags.
There are alot of Saddleback groupies here that are Sad/Mad about the honest review of a True & Real leather Artisan.
Thank you for the video J.P. Keep your craft alive!
Fixed_4_Life Hey would you mind telling me where u bought it? Like what brand or company recommend ?
I like the Indiana Jones vibe 😎
The maximum price for this bag is $300. Here the leather is worth 100 dollars, it is tanned leather, it is not expensive. Accessories $50. 50 dollars for a worker to sew it. 100 profit
Good video
it does look like something you would bring if you were to go camping or something. it's a little too rustic
Be Safe Stay Well .
Thanks for the video!
The only thing I don't understand why you are comparing the way SBL does it with the way you do it. You have a totally different style and quality, and the price difference that is quite big, but still you're comparing.
I never compared, because there is no comparison, it's just my stupid opinion about that briefcase. Love it or leave it.
I have Saddleback products from 2013.
Bought another bag in 2017. Leather quality WAY down. Hardware now steel rather than brass. The 2017 leather was spongy and light.
The quality is not the same and MUCH cheaper.
SBL briefcase is awesome and beautiful, I like it but I can’t purchase it because I haven’t that much of money !
Great review. I agree with most of it. Unfortunately, most people are TV programmed to only want something based on what some celebrity touts. If the average person knew their "high end" bag was made in a factory in Sri Lanka, Thailand, Malaysia, etc, by 100's of women making $2/hr they might not feel so puffed up about it. many of those brands originated in style houses and were made by craftsmen. Machine template cut parts, machine stitched parts, with a logo, is not worth the money they command. This guy makes real craft level items and I watch and listen, and try, and listen watch repeat. One day, I might produce a bag at his level, but I am not doing it to sell, but as gifts. I laugh at women spending $15,000.00 for a purse, soley to be seen or brag about it.
Good Review.
I wouldn’t say it’s Retarded, LMAO, but it is amusing to hear such a detailed and opinionated assessment.
I agree with some of the points but the greatest takeaway is that folks have different ideas of use.
The Yankee accent, Religious, and Southern comments fit the profile perfectly.
Like I say, I appreciate the blunt candor.
I have quite a bit of Veg Tanned Leather and understand and appreciate the difference.
You make a great point about the difference between making one briefcase at a time for a rich yankee atheist doctor or lawyer, and supplying a broad demand for retarded southern outdoorsmen, blue collar workers, and college kids in jeans.
Down here “briefcase” is probably a bit of a misnomer. We don’t limit use of the Saddleback stuff to briefs, underwear or paper. I carry guns, tools, iPads, water bottles, cameras, lunch, ammunition, books, knives and such stuff. The Backpack adaptability being useful as well.
As for the practicality of a College Kid spending $700 on such an item, I’d say it’s completely practical when The President is cancelling your student debt. When it comes to College, Practicality went away decades ago.
So all in all I appreciated your detailed informative and entertaining opinion.
;)
Believe it or not us "Yankee atheists" carry guns in our briefcases too - and usually hold them sideways when taking aim...
i have a great bulletproof and stab resident briefcase if you want to checkout. marcellinony.com/product/macarthur-1235-bulletproof-briefcase/
thanks for the comment, its all fun, i really like saddle back, but that briefcase is def built retarded.
@@Jpmarcellino I was noticing mine today, which I’ve had for 12 years, has the ring near the handle. The handle allows ring/ hand clearance easily and if the ring were lower on the back it would wear a hole in my pants when I carry it slung over my shoulder.
I have several Tucker Saddles and I like the veg tanned leather, but the leather of this old Saddleback has definitely taken on the slick shiny appearance of veg tanned over the years. Mine never collapsed into a cloth like floppiness as others have noted. I carried it everyday to work for 10 years. It has served me well.
It is nice to see American quality such as yours and I am glad you have the market to support your Craftsmanship. Keep up the good work.
It's a mobile leather trunk.
I agree with most points, I think it would look far better using all the same metals, as well as eliminating all the unnecessary aspects like the side straps, bottle holders, and D-rings all over the place. Would really clean up the bag.
Marcellino’s review is bold on honest. I am a leather crafting hobbyist, and there’s just no comparison between saddlebacks bag and marcellino bag. You are comparing bridle leather to chrome tanned leather, saddle stitch to machine stitch, bespoke to mass production. People who said they prefer the saddleback has obviously no knowledge of leather what so ever. If you want rustic characteristics and good quality, go with horween that is saddle stitched at minimum. Mass produce stuff for 700 dollars? I would rather add another 400dollars to buy a baseline handcraft model made of veg tanned leather
please keep" reviewing"/exposing the tutorial leathercrafters
much appreciated, thanks
Almost a 10 minutes preamble. Was this supposed to be a comparison video or a review?
my perspective given my background take it for what its worth. my work does not compare well with SB
Saddleback is the brand everyone gets fooled with on their first piece. The ironic thing is, the concepts saddleback sells you is the reason people end up going with something else the next time
very true
Good review, but ditch the word 'retarded' as a descriptor. I'm not saying you're a bad guy, I grew up hearing it and saying it too, but times change, eh? Other words : illogical, inconsistent, short-sighted, ill-conceived, absurd, irrational, senseless, unreasonable, wrong, incorrect, preposterous, ridiculous, etc.
I did check out your website though, and it looks like you build a lot of great stuff. Not trying to make a big deal about the language, you're obviously a respectable guy that's not trying to talk bad about anyone, cheers.
Shame on SB for making in Mexico with Mexico Leather . Another review said they raised prices . Their own page claims the leather is Veg Tan .. your review might have got them to change leather and raise prices . I hope they pay the workers a good living wage .
I saw the SB bag .. or a knock off Sunday on 60 minutes . It belonged to a US Marshall .. if you want an AMERICAN bag ... there are 100 s of starving Saddle Makers / Boot Makers out there who can make a better custom in what ever style you want . And probably for less $
You know, if your going to do a review do a review. If you want to sell your wares. then promote your own crap. Good lord that's just not fair.
and we've found the most biased 'please buy from me instead' review on youtube...
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Whine for 10 minutes. No briefcase review
03:20 "But for me any religion is too religious." Amen, brother, amen!
"I love talking about this subject." No kidding! When I first started watching your video, I thought it might be overly long and too repetitive, but it was so informative that I soon didn't mind. If, after watching, consumers want to buy a Saddleback, at least they'll have a solid base of information to factor into their decision.
thank you
I'm sorry but after yapping for the first 2 minutes, I clicked off because I couldn't take you seriously. Just get to the point, especially if you're video is 45 minutes long!
This video is 90% him trying to justify the price of his bags.
My God, man…get to the point! Ten minutes of intro and blah, blah, blah?? This could have been a 15 minute video tops.
Marcelinos bags cost over 3,000 usd....no thanks, I stick to Saddleback.
A fool and his money are easy parted.
I think this guy is knowledgeable but way too biased towards his target demographic.
1) Most Americans today can’t even cover a $500 emergency expense without putting it on a credit card, let alone afford a $2000-3000 briefcase.
2) Most Americans aren’t lawyers and doctors, and don’t need an ultra-refined $3000 briefcase. I think most average Americans don’t even like the style and fashion associated with upscale luxury bags. They might be clean and simple, but they’re boring in comparison to an Indiana Jones-style briefcase like Saddleback.
3) people like functionality. Saddleback’s briefcases probably outcompete this guy’s products in the functionality department.
4) Chrome tanned leather is superior to vegetable tanned leather. The Cr salts form inner-sphere complexes with the carboxyl moieties in the collagen fibers (through dative bonding mechanisms), and act as a polymerization catalyst linking the fibers together. This makes them more thermally and chemically stable, and you don’t have to worry about it getting rained on and staining so easily.
If a saddleback briefcase gets rained on, it’s completely fine. If a $3000 vegetable tanned briefcase gets rained on, it might ruin it lol.
Saddlebacks products might be made in a factory, but they cater to the average American. They make rugged, durable, and stylish briefcases accessible to the masses, and these types of products is what fuels the industry. Not the part time leather craftsman who only caters to the upper class.
The only setting it fits in is someone who manages an oil rig or something
Get to the point
well. i think it a little unfair to compare a saddleback briefcase you your masterpieces. i think the saddleback briefcases are cool, just not my style at all.
It is hard to do a review and not compare my briefcases which are my experiences in this art form. I try not to because i want to offer a genuine perspective from a maker as opposed to the majority of reviews coming from users or "paid users" which seem like a lot. I always get offers for me to send my bags so people can review them for a price. I've never done that. I think both types of reviews (maker and user) have their value. I'm always upfront. I'm not trying to put something down for the sake of putting it down so i can sell my product. To me it is not even a product it is my original artwork that i put out in the world. Like you said a masterpiece. I would rather compare my work to a painter or musician as opposed to something that is mass produced and i honestly try not to.
I really like your review but I do not agree about the quality. The hardware is very cheap compared to the hardware on many if the high end manufacturers. I must admit the level of appreciation of quality is different from Europe and America
The only other setting it fits in is someone who rides a horse to work.
Are you saying being a cowboy is a bad thing?
Does this guy not get that they are a Saddleback Leather is for the rugged outdoors man or woman? Versatility is what they are meant for. I'll take a $700 Saddleback over his fancy pansy briefcase. Most lawyers or doctors prefer quality rugged over quality pretty.
Took 45 minutes to do a 10 minute review.
I literally wouldn't buy a briefcase from you simply because of your attitude and personality. You act genuinely pissed off and I'm not sure why.
A lawyer comments on your video saying he likes his SBC case and you mock him and his piece? Get a life, man.
LOL, like I would ever sell one to you. I wouldn't sell one to you simply because of the way you are falsely portraying me. I never mocked anyone that did not FIRST disrespect me. NEVER. I defend myself and trolls like you get their panties all bunched up when I do. If you are going to read these stupid comments at least tell the truth. I'm genuinely pissed off, yes, because i gave an honest review of SBL, which i even said some good things but there are people trying to discredit my voice and lie like you when all I've been was honest and said the same thing if you don't like the review prove me wrong in what i said.
You sound extremely bitter. And, after watching your ENTIRE 45 minute review, I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on how you are.
One year ago, in a comment just below mine, an account called Arch Law Firm, or something similar, commented that he carried his SBL case into court all the time and has gotten several compliments on it. You said "ha ha ha! Are you really a lawyer? I never met a lawyer who'd use the words drool in..." and you mocked him.
And damn right you'd sell to me if I flopped out the $2,000 for a briefcase that you no doubt demand.
But that's OK, my Saddleback Leather Barrister, that I paid $789 for just came in the mail last week. It's my very first piece and I love it. I don't care how much I paid.
Good luck with your endeavors. Try not to be so bitter and you'll like sell more. Your salesmanship is really rusty.
Lol, as a side note, I'm brand new to leather. Just decided to do some research and see what was out there. So I watched your video. But, my God man, you need to relax. You call me a troll? Nah, just a guy with cash in his pocket looking to spend, watching you get uber pissed on camera and laughing.
dude, if you think your 2k would move me learn some more about leather and me. I don't sell bags like SBL i create art, know the difference. me not agreeing with his "drool" statement wasn't a mocking, it was my opinion, know the difference. You paid $789 for a bag made in Mexico which is an equivalent bag that I can have manufactured in China for $50 - a sucker is born every day - now that's a mocking lol
one day when you understand what quality is and you want one of my bags, mark my words, i will only charge you double the price. I doubt you have it like that to even spend half the price but i will charge 2x and put you on a 12 month wait list. good luck with your highly replicated leather bag.
Lol, the different between me and you is I'm just happy. Happy with my life. Happy with my bag. I didn't buy a piece of art. I bought a bag, just like I intended. LOL!
Lol, I'll leave you alone now but first.... I admire men of talent and expression. I admire people who pour their heart and soul into what they do. I look up to men of passion. But you're bitter, angry, resentful and strange. Everything about you turns me off of you and makes me think very poorly of your leather work, even if it is high quality. You stain your own reputation and give yourself a black eye and make even your great leather work look second rate. Be better.
Saddleback Leather is garbage. Expensive garbage. Expensive garbage for uninformed consumers.
It's just tacky unless you look like John Wayne. I see these dorky office workers in the airport with their saddlebacks... It's just goofy
@@Stan_sprinkle It just shows that they have no idea what men style is.
Yo Mamma!
SBL is just garbage. Chrome tanned junk. Quality control is lousy, you never know what you are going to get. Mass produced, kool-aid and sad. Rugged design aside, the leather looks dirty and like an old pile of rags after being used.