TV or Projector? both. The ULTIMATE Hidden Home Theater Setup!
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- čas přidán 25. 10. 2021
- In this video I show how I built the ultimate hidden home theater setup with a 65" LG OLED TV, Ambilight Backlighting, 120" Floor Rising ALR Projector Screen, Automated Motorized Projector Drawer, and 4K Ultra Short Throw Projector.
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That's what I like about your videos Rob.. you have the "voice of reason" on your shoulder telling you this can be done cheaper... and your results speak for themselves.. nice one (low low price of £16k made me LoL)
Absolutely, and also the voice of reason for when not to DIY things, like the floor rising screen, which would be a total nightmare and probably dangerous in more than a few ways!
I'm using Bluesound soundbar + 2 flexes and a sub woofer. It creates really good immersive sound and is very easy to setup. The speakers talk to each other through a dedicated wifi network so there is no lag there if you decide to not wire everything up. Plus: no account needed for this and it does have an HA integration
Lovely looking setup Rob! 😎🔥
Thanks Lewis!
Just the way that you explain everything is truly amazing, thank so much for the effort you put into creating your content!
Thinking about doing the same thing for my basement. Thanks for the video, very informative and pointing me in the right direction!
Fantastic video! Both a Vividstorm screen and Xgimi Aura happen to be on my Christmas list! And, I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with a motorized drawer solution so I can't wait for your video to be posted. Needless to say, I've subscribed.
Excellent as always, I'm looking forward to the sliding drawer video
This is so incredible. Amazing video and thank you for the detailed explanations on everything you did
I love your DIY videos!
I just got the Sonos Arc, already had a couple of older play 1 for surround and love it. No need for the sub. Sound quality is great
Can't wait for the motorized shelf vid, Interested to learn how you set up pre-set stop points!
The wonders of stepper motors :)
that is like one of the coolest HT setup ive ever seen. wicked!
Thanks!
Boom! Just what I wanted. Saw this setup in one of your other videos & was hoping to find out exactly what you had & how you did it. 😀👍🏿
Really looking forward to watching the shelf video (not something I ever thought I would say ;). I have kickstarted the NexiGo Aurora Pro and it should be here sometime in Oct. I am planning to build a cabinet/etc like you did here to house my screen(have been eyeing the vividstorm floor raising ones for awhile. The more I see them in action the more I like them!) My PJ, a 'normal' TV and my speakers. The sliding shelf looks like a great way to go! Thanks!
@Rob, that's a great setup!
Thanks for sharing!
I too have a similar setup, except that my motorized screen is ceiling mounted and not floor rising like yours; and my 1080p projector is a motorized drop down mount, from a concealed ceiling cutout.
I'm debating whether I should upgrade to an expensive 4K, HDR-10 capable projector, or just place four cheaper 55" UHD TVs (bezel less) in a 2 by 2 grid on the wall, akin to a video wall, with a 4-way 4K HDMI splitter. What's your opinion on this, and any suggestions you have?
The advantages of this I see are enormous - easier cabling and setup, single remote operation, simple integration with HA etc.
I like the idea of the drawer for your ultrashort throw projector... oh and I saw your Quest 2 next to it... awesome.... Think I'm gonna try to make this as well. Maybe not automated, but who knows... it looks great!
Highly recommend the Sonos ARC and subs. I have two sets one with two subs. Amazing, simple and clean. This is coming from an audiophile.
can't wait to see the video on the shelf and the automations for the shelf and projector!
It's definitely the project that I've tried the hardest to be inclusive of people without power tools or a 3d printer... So limiting! It's also got a full home assistant version (ESPHome) and ESPAlexa version. I wish someone would build a great JS front end for the ESPHome web portal that could pass in variables. I love making projects with ESPHome, but they just aren't that useful without a home assistant instance.
What a nice surprise. A lot of people have a motorised projection screens in front of TV’s, but the hidden short throw projector is a very cool and much more original idea 👍🏻
PS Looking at your setup it seems obvious to add a pair of stereo speakers on either side of the projection screen. There are decent soundbars out there, but you don’t have to be an audiophile to tell the difference between a soundbar and proper stereo or surround HiFi. You just need to make a side by side comparison which most non-audiophiles don’t want to.
You are, quite simply, a total badass. 😀
Looking forward to the house to video!
OMG this is soooooo perfect. Can’t wait to see the video about how to build this. Love then set up and interested in what you think is the best Ultra short throw. Chris has me wanting the Hisense
Here's the project build: czcams.com/video/8cP1dvXzM9I/video.html
After testing out a bunch of USTs I settled on the Optoma P2 for now, which I was able to snag for $2100 (I think it was around $3500 when Chris reviewed it): amzn.to/3zVf1Kq
Very nice setup. Not only am I looking forward to the projector drawer video, but maybe a DIY floor projector screen. That vivid storm is a little pricey.
It is a bit pricey, however, a DIY drawer is pretty easy because it's small, simple and only requires moderate precision. A floor rising screen on the other hand is pretty complicated, requires metal fabrication, and high precision since a screen with wrinkles in it is basically worthless.
Great video. Awesome setup. You should definitely get the Sonos Arc full system. The thing sounds absolutely incredible. The front soundstage is very wide and the sub shakes the house. It is probably as close as you can get to true surround system from a soundbar. Also it sounds great for music too especially Apple music in atmos from the Apple TV. By the end of November Sonos will be releasing an update to add DTS sound to all Sonos soundbars.
Thank you for using our screen . Awesome video!
Though the contrast ALR screen could be used with a short throw projector, it works better with a long throw one.If you have a short throw projector , we defenitely recommend the optical ALR screen.^.^
In his video the optical alr looked better with regards to colors/brightness and black level.
But it also showed quite an amount of moire.
Is this expected?
I’m so glad I stumbled in this video you are quickly at the top of my list of how to still have a good screen in my new home.
Thanks for another informative video
You sound like an idiot, I hid your last comment for your own good. There is literally a price breakdown on the screen showing all options. Quit making yourself look like a joke.
I recently purchased the Sony HTA9 sound system. Great replacement to a traditional soundbar. Prior to the HTA9, I was using the HTST 5000 sound bar system.
I’d love to get the HTA9, just can’t find it in stock anywhere
Very cool. Didnt know allot of this existed. Unf at this time a bit out of my price range. I still love my tower speakers.
Well that was a great video. Now I want a projector in my house !
3 months ago I didn't have any projectors, now I have 3 🙃. Well, 13 if you count all the sub $100 ones for Halloween decorations.
@@TheHookUp the things you come up with amaze me! Love watching your videos and will be following along with this series :)
Thank you. 👍🏻
So this idea has been at the back of my mind for a while now... this might be enough of a push to give me some impetus! Definitely looking forward to the drawer vid!
On the flip side, seems finding a floor rising screen in the UK is like finding a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow. And even if you can you seem to need said gold to afford the thing!
I tried to reply to this comment a bunch of times with an AliExpress link but CZcams keeps deleting it, so I put the link in the description. It's pricey but not DIYable in my opinion, the mechanism is complex, the parts are big and precision is important to avoid screen wrinkles.
@@TheHookUp thanks! Will take a look!
If you're looking for surround - consider Sony HT-A9. It's $2300 - but what I've read of it has been stellar
Can you have a more in depth review of the Vividstorm? I am looking at getting the drop down ALR version with my ceiling mounted projector and not the floor model so I am really interested in the ALR performance. Thanks!
THat drawer could be something for the future, maybe the screen type too, haveing a permanent now.
soundbar LOL, that automatic drawer is dope though
Cool setup man, I have a similar one with a motorized ceiling mounted tab tensioned screen and UST projector. My only source is Apple TV but every adapter I’ve used failed to work! Does your adapter work flawlessly with hdmi 2.0, 4K HDR10 and 4:4:4 chroma? Thanks, just subscribed!
Love the videos Rob, really can’t wait for your motorised drawer how-to video!
Go SONOS, I got that setup and love it. Well worth the money for my setup.
I’m so glad you brought up surroundsound! I’m awaiting my Vava Chroma and I was thinking about utilizing a older 7.1 channel receiver and making DML panels speakers. I’m considering making a couple of the surrounds painted to match my walls and a couple of them paintings and then have more a traditional speaker set up for left right and center channels. I’d be very interested in seeing you DIY those speakers and give your impression! Thanks again love your channel
Was waiting for a solution like this! Do you recommend any projectors at around £1k?
I'm looking forward to the shelf video. Does it have to be home assistant to automate or are there other options?
I'm going to release a home assistant version and one that integrates straight to Alexa.
Hello, that's what I was looking for! Well explained. I have a Samsung Q990B 11.1 Channel soundbar, with this setup will I have a problem? I don't see any hdmi splitter for 11.1 CH, maximum they have 7.1CH but with your setup hdmi splitter is at the end after soundbar, what's your opinion?
Is it possible to split a receiver signal to both displays? To have sound for a home theater on both
Impressive setup and great video. Did you get the 1.2 gain or 0.8 gain screen? Thanks in advance.
Mine is the 0.8 gain screen.
Thought was ingenuous that you triggered the screen based on the projector power draw. That could come handy in many many places. What's the device you used to do this?
Cameron Gray also just did a video on Hyperion(HyperHDR).
Suggestion for your sound setup: I just bought the Harman Kardon avr 171s 7.2 receiver with a 7.1 speaker set up, it’s an upgrade from the 161s 5.2 setup I had prior and I can tell you they both killing it in performance, I bought the 171s with speakers second hand for 400 euros
The problem with a speaker based setup is I need to find a place to put them and a way to wire them. I have power at the surround locations, but not speaker wire, and my daughter's desk is really in the way for the L channel speaker.
Greate🎉
Hey, what game is that you are playi8ng at 5:37 mark? Looks fun! Great video can't wait to get mine set up in 2022.
Great video! Quick question, what TV stand are you using? That's the perfect size for what I need. Very curious. Thanks
I built it custom for the space.
Sound bars are an easy solution, but for surround sound you need seperately positioned speakers. I bought second hand floor mounted speakers and centre speaker. Also a 300mm sub woofer and rears all driven from a proper av amp. Once you have a proper set up you would nt want a soundbar, except where space is limited.
I am on the $1800 range , to replace my incandescent projector, have you checked out the XGIMI Horizon Pro? what are the impressions?
Try the Sony HTA9!
I'm getting Two of the projector screens one 150 and the other 180 when I get my house.
I didn't get a special sale for the exact same sound bar set and yeah i agree with you, the cycling input from the 1990's is also pretty poor form of samsung too. I was just going to wait for a sale of Sonos arc and get that.
Why dont you try a vizio 5.1 system
Its relatively cheap and also had dolby atmos
Thanks for the video. Question for you. How did you deal with sources and sound output?? Did you add sources to both the tv and projector? Or did you have some form of hdmi switch? Similarly did you have an optical splitter to the sound system??
I’m using a super overpriced hdmi splitter/matrix called the HDFury VRROOM. It works great with the Sonos ARC that I’m currently using.
wow nice setup great work. i have a 100" fixed projector epson eh-tw7300 in white at the ceiling so you almost not notice it (altough you could intergrate it in some lighting box at the ceiling) and a fixed 100" alr screen. I also wanted the ambilight with hyperion started it 4 years ago but never got it to work, it stopped working after 250 leds or so :( i used a raspberry pi and a arduino that was recommended. maybe i try to fix it again because i still have al the parts (hdmi splitter, hdmi to av, led strips and so on). you gave me good inspiration for some things :)
Nice. I'm actually doing Hyperion a little differently. I'm running my LEDs with a controller called a digUno running an awesome program called WLED. Hyperion is set up on the raspberry pi and sends data over the network to WLED, this is probably an overkill setup but I like that the DigUno is a fused output, and I already had it setup before I decided to use Hyperion, so it was nice that they play well together.
Question - I am wanting to run my PS5 / Roku to my TV and projector with a HT receiver. My receiver is a bit older but does have ARC. It sounds like a would need a 4x4 HDMI splitter as the Roku and PS5 would be inputs and then output to the receiver, TV and projector. Is that correct?
Rob does you're hyperion setup handle dolby vision? I haven't seen a way to deal with it other than the hue sync box.
It does not. You'd need a splitter that could down sample dolby vision to 1080p SDR.
Sweet set up! Very wife friendly. :) BTW what is that decible app you're using? I like one called Spectroid for finding peaks and nulls to manually EQ and create a house curve.
It's called DecibleX
While doing research I came across your video. I have a similar setup 85" tv with a denon avr 3800 with klipsch 7.4.2 I also have we max nova 4k with flr rising 120" screen. My problem is how to get sound from projector to surround system. Not much info on how to do that. So I'm going to try gofranco unless you have another recommendation? Thanks
The most common solution is to use a HDFury device. I believe the integral is what you would want: amzn.to/3qwVSxC
What I've found "fun" is trying to find a decent HT in a Box that will fit under the shelf my TV sits on. There's only a few inches vertical space and most units are twice that tall. I'm fed up w/ the Sony I have now and it's f/w glitches that hasn't had an update from them in ages. The 20min idle auto-off can't be disabled either.
What integration are you using for the Q90R? I have the same soundbar but I not found anything yet
This one: github.com/PiotrMachowski/Home-Assistant-custom-components-SmartThings-Soundbar
Hi, could you tell me how to make ESPHome send three numbers (channels) to the TV, please?
I've been looking for days on this and haven't found anything.
Thanks.
It really depends which system you are trying to send channels to. Are you sending to android TV? Harmony?
The Nakamichi Dragon soundbar is the way to go
Dragon looks really cool (but expensive). I went with Sonos ARC + 2 One SL's for rears. I actually just ordered two Era 300's to upgrade the rears since I've heard the height channels on them are fantastic. We'll see.
Please someone tell me which device to buy that JUST projects a picture of my dog on the wall. I want it to project big and have it on the wall as a feature wall. I don't even know where to start looking (not tech-minded)
how much for all of this setup stuf
QQ: Why do you have a TV behind a Screen? I need to replace my current TV and was considering moving to a projector and screen.
We watch the 65" TV most of the time. When the TV is on but not a "focus" there's no reason to have a 120" screen blasting. We use the projector for movies, big sports events, or cinematic TV shows (Silo on AppleTV was perfect on the projector).
A solid 3.1 setup would be better than the sound bars.
Store bought - or even some DIY speakers if you're wanting to go that route.
Really? The Q90R has rear satellites and a sub. Actually, the performance of it isn't my issue, it sounds pretty good. Most of the problems come from the digital processing in the soundbar itself which introduces enough delay to cause lipsync issues on both the projector and the TV, and make amazon multi room audio unusable.
@@TheHookUp Yeah, it will make a difference. Accessories4Less has some good deals on receiver's. I'm not sure of your room layout and if a 5.1 system would do you any better, or a 5.1.2
A few factors in play - plus personal preferences as well.
I do think you would be happy stepping up from the soundbar setups, figuring out the solution to wiring it all up will be easy and a fun video for us.
What's that demo video for Hyperion?
"Fluid Sim Hue Test": czcams.com/video/qC0vDKVPCrw/video.html
Do you have any written or drawn out plans or specs for how you built this thing? I’d buy it!
For the shelf? Here you go: czcams.com/video/8cP1dvXzM9I/video.html
@@TheHookUp I saw that (and appreciate it), but I was talking about how you built the cabinet. I have the exact same vivid storm screen as you and it’d be great to build something that could raise it off the floor a bit and hold the projector and other tv accessories.
Rob, I think you just worked out how to piss my girlfriend off...a tv and a projector! ahaha, I'm excited!
Uh oh! Tread lightly.
Rob this shouldn't be funny but i've had 2 of those soundbars for 3 years now and have them upside down? LOL i always thought samsung put the log on wrong.. wow thanks
Hi Rob great project … I have the same configuration in mind!
How was this screen taunt , no wrinkles? Do you think ceiling drop down might be better for a wrinkle free screen?
Thanks
The screen is tensioned in the back by large metal arms, it works great.
Any idea how the black levels are on the xgimi when compared to something like a 5040ub or 5050ub?
Definitely not as good. The 5050UB is a bulb projector designed specifically to have crazy black levels. Any laser projector will be bad comparatively, that said, the black levels are significantly better on the XGiMi than the Epson LS300.
why do laser projectors have lower contrasts tho ? It's just the light source afaik
I'm pretty sure it's because most laser projectors are DLP and 3LCD is where you get the crazy good black levels from.
Hey man, I have watched your projector videos and I have a question for you and I hope you're gonna read it. :-)
So... I just ordered myself a Thundeal TD90 projector on Aliexpress after seeing very good reviews about it. It is a 720p native.
It should arrive this week.
Now, I did some more checking on the sellers page and now I noticed the Thundeal TD96 which is 1080p.
I'm thinking off sending the TD90 back unopened and ordering the TD96.
What do you think?
I will watch it from about 9/10feet away...
Now, I don't have a need to spend a couple of thousand dollars on a 8k projector sort of speak but obviously, the quality is still important.
Could you maybe take a quick look and tell me what you think. It's only 90€ more so...
Thank you in advance!!
How far you are away doesn't matter too much, the important part is how large of a screen you are looking to make. Neither of those projectors seem all that special to me, and never having tested them myself I can't say that one would be better than the other. I'm in the middle of testing for a second video for projectors in the $100-300 range, and so far Nexigo has a strong lead: amzn.to/3DTdR36
@@TheHookUp I honestly don't know alot about it. It's gonna be my first projector. So as I read on the description page... 9.8feet away will give me a 100inch screen. I can't go any further than that since that is the max distance I can put it. And that is pointed straight at the wall I'm gonna project on. I have big hopes for the Thundeal TD96 (as far as that pricerange goes) because I have watched a video about in it full detail and the person really seemed to know what he's talking about). Reviews are also good but I don't base myself too much on that. I will take a look at your suggestion as well. Maybe a stupid question but I am correct about the 9.8feet away --> 100 inch screen correct? It may be 10ish since I'm not at home at the moment and only did a quick meassurement. It's not less :p
@@TheHookUp I would like it a big bigger though so I'm guessing a short throw projector? Or is that already short throw? Again, sorry, total noob :D
Do you have a write-up about enabling developer options for Android TV integration with Home Assistant? Does it work with the Shield TV?
Looks like the LED strips are currently sold out - the specific version you mention is not showing at your link.
Go into your android tv settings, find the android version and click on it until it tells you you are a developer, then enable USB debugging from the new developer menu.
Also, the LED link still works for me, are you in the US?
@@TheHookUp Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was wondering more about the Home Assistant side. Once USB debugging is enabled, how are you integrating with HA?
@@JustinWild
media_player:
- platform: androidtv
host: 192.168.20.43
name: "XGiMi Projector"
Obviously make the ip address the ip of your projector.
Which db measure app is that?
Decibel X
The hook up , bro please do a video on ceiling cloud led game rooms , please! please! , I am having a problem with it , details on how to keep bugs out of the cotton , for it will not be a nesting hub for bugs , ways about going about to make it non flammable and make it safe , and on how to make a good lighting pattern ! Bro you the man at explaining things much better then others!!!!! I love some your videos and this would give you views like a mfer !!!!!!
Is that an ambilight TV ? If not how do you have reactie light behind it?
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@@TheHookUp hey buddy I know this was a while ago but I just wanted to ask if you used this setup with any Dolby vision content?
I understand your setup will display HDR correctly on your TV and then sends SDR to Hyperion to run the lights. Have you had any issues there with weird colours?
definitely go for a real home theater setup and not a soundbar
Buy Sony HT-A9 for sound system
Not going to lie, had to pause and google when i heard 'ultimate chicken horse'
Oh, also for your home theatre, have a look into the SVS prime 5.1 set and a wireless audio path adapter for the rears. Any newish 5.1 receiver would power them, second hand for a few hundred bucks.
You should check it out, it's such a great game!
downgrade my 100" UST with ALR screen to a 75" tv. no regrets.
easier to watch even during the day. and a good balance between big screen and color contrast.
Heads up that a 4k pixel-shifting projector uses a 1080p image, shifted by half a pixel to get the extra resolution. This can mean you only get the full refresh rate at 1080p instead of 4k - though I've got no idea if the same is true for input delay. My source is here, but note that they aren't experts on this, but are interested in how well games play on different display technologies: czcams.com/video/iFJsEfWsTd4/video.html
It's definitely possible that "game mode" gets rid of the pixel shifting to decrease input lag. However, as far as pixel shifting in general it's really common and is seen up through even super high end UST projectors.
1080p is not frame rate, it is resolution = 1920 x 1080 pixels. '1080p' can be any frame rate.
12V SK6812 STRIPS?!?!?!?!?!?! WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?!!!!!!
ay man you adopting by any chance? I can cook minute rice in 57 seconds.... so ye, lmk.
IF I CAN Afford SONOS SURROUND IM PRETTY SURE YOU CAN TOO
I did end up getting it, but it's not about being able to afford it, sometimes I just feel like I shouldn't buy something because it's too expensive.
On other subjects a got some esp32 flash on espresense Got to work after along day figuring it out. But a day later all three of them keeps disconnecting. I was wondering if the samething has happen to you ? Using my Apple Watch as my ibeacon.
I don't have espresence set up, are you thinking of Everything Smart Home: czcams.com/video/p7C2QvmsM8M/video.html
Sony HT-A7000 Soundbar with SW5 wireless subwoofer and RS3S wireless rears Techmoan review: czcams.com/video/8RLCW0dDPuU/video.html and Linus review: czcams.com/video/rfPq8gZszdM/video.html - You could start with the soundbar and add as needed wirelessly.
This is looking like a winner to me. I just did some quick googling and it looks like it is compatible with Alexa Speaker Groups, which is a huge deal for me.
Im the first one 😂 good video!
Quick question... These people that take your advice and build their own setup... In the event their curios child gets their finger in there when it is closing and get cut off... What address would be best for you to be served at for the lawsuit against you and your company?
A nema 17 stepper has zero chance of cutting off a finger. It will just miss steps when it encounters too much resistance.
You look like Seth MacFarlane
with short hair.
Thanks?
Stop. Stop stop stop. Hold the phone. Rob… what are you trying to pull here? And how has no one else commented about this?! New 12v sk6812?!?!? And you just glossed over this??? What?! Since when?? Why no video on these??!? I need them!!
Haha, they are still relatively uncommon and none of the big suppliers seem to have them, but they are pretty cool. Like I said, they are only controllable in banks of 3, but not a deal breaker for me.
Did someone report these to you or did you just happen to find while perusing aliexpress? Lol I would have never seen these if not for this video! Thank you and please keep us posted on stuff like this. This is my first time in the comments section and it’s funny I was looking for the video you mentioned these and first checked the shelf build video. People went nuts over your using SI lol that was like the entire comments section smh. There are more pressing issues people! Like mysterious new LEDs!!
@@berniem5763 I specifically went looking for them one day and ended up finding them. They are actually also available in 24V, but only controllable in banks of 6.
Who else wants to go to his house and take a dump in his bathroom just to see if his toilet is smart to?
No need to do that, it is. :)
Possibly you’ve already addressed DIY speaker kits in past videos? I wouldn’t know.
In any case, you seem like the type that may be interested. Check out GR RESEARCH. Danny really knows what he’s doing in that category. You’re audience might like to see a desktop speaker build??
People with short throw projectors sit down to pee.
Dirty casuals.
Too much info for one video to be useful
Very stupid to have both