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  • Are all women a little bit bi? According to the news, that's what science says... @Shaaba joins us this week to separate fact from fibs, as we dive into research of bisexuality in women!
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Komentáře • 229

  • @SciGuys
    @SciGuys  Před rokem +99

    Are you bisexual? Or a woman? Or both?

    • @breathebeloved
      @breathebeloved Před rokem +14

      I'm not a woman or bi, but I thought I was both for many years. I now understand myself to be afab enby aro/ace.

    • @skyrimguy217
      @skyrimguy217 Před rokem +5

      I'm bi leaning gay, but I'm a male

    • @user-lb6bn8vy3e
      @user-lb6bn8vy3e Před rokem +5

      I don’t know if I’m bisexual or not 🤷🏼 haven’t figured out my sexuality out yet, but I do know I’m nonbinary. So to answer your question; maybe just bisexual or maybe neither

    • @PeriOfTheGee
      @PeriOfTheGee Před rokem +8

      I am both! And I will continue to consume all of the letters of the acronym until there are none left. I already ate 3-5 of them depending on how you categorize them.

    • @itchy7879
      @itchy7879 Před rokem +1

      nope but I used the label bi for a year because of comphet oops..

  • @mahrinui18
    @mahrinui18 Před rokem +219

    Me, fully aware of parasocial relationships: "oh boy another banger from my close personal friends Luke and Corry"

  • @olanintola
    @olanintola Před rokem +229

    I'm neither a bisexual nor a woman but another secret third thing

    • @essendossev362
      @essendossev362 Před rokem +24

      Ooo, mysterious. I'm intrigued.

    • @solsystem1342
      @solsystem1342 Před rokem +11

      ​​@@erssiemajor8010As an poly bi-enby with a few enbyfriends (as in like partners). I would like to clarify that yes, bi can include enbies. Pan and bi people are valid just pick the label that you feel better with depending on how you define them.
      In fact: I'd like to take a moment to clarify straight people, gay people, and lesbians can all be attracted to nonbinary people (aro people too if they're demi/grey/etc). For instance, my girlfriend largly describes herself as a lesbian despite having nonbinary partners. Please don't try and correct her on this because I personally dislike when people try and group attraction to enbies as if we are a box some people are attracted to and some not. Any allo person would likely be attracted to some enbies and not others.
      Ok, that's my rant. Do what you want, do who you want. Love y'all❤

    • @neeliwilson9771
      @neeliwilson9771 Před rokem +3

      Ahhhhh me too! Agender Pansexual 😊💝👍

    • @wareforcoin5780
      @wareforcoin5780 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Mildly ominous.

  • @idobelieveinnargles
    @idobelieveinnargles Před rokem +99

    As a bi woman with a psych degree this is the most targeted content ever.

  • @shaaba
    @shaaba Před rokem +54

    Thanks for having me!
    love Shaaba the Table x

  • @BaddeGrasse
    @BaddeGrasse Před rokem +80

    Im bi, and the doctor has in fact diagnosed me with woman, but the doctor is transphobic 😂

  • @potterlover96
    @potterlover96 Před rokem +44

    The whole societal pressure about being gay thing is fascinating to me. When I was younger and first realized I was also attracted to men, I was terrified that it would mean I'm gay, even though I'm also attracted to women and knew that. I ended up justifying it to myself as "I'm straight but can appreciate when others would find a guy attractive".
    Now an out and proud bi-guy :)

  • @bananewane1402
    @bananewane1402 Před rokem +31

    Okay so the cis women "being turned on by all porn" thing...
    I don't think that's indicative of bisexuality.
    My own internal experience is I have a mild physical response to anything vaguely sexual even if it is disgusting to me. It doesn't mean I'm attracted to it, interested in it or want to do it. It's just like an automatic bodily reaction.
    I think observing brain activity, the reward centers in particular would give much more useful data. What images do women find rewarding to look at? Which images trigger feelings of desire and goal-oriented behaviour?

  • @twinksintrees
    @twinksintrees Před rokem +68

    Rizz means charisma, so saying someone has ‘rizz’ or ‘has that rizz’ is like saying ‘damn you’re charismatic and that was smooth af’

    • @twinksintrees
      @twinksintrees Před rokem +11

      also this is a great episode i love seeing shaaba on lmao

    • @SciGuys
      @SciGuys  Před rokem +31

      I actually do know what it means, but cut the explanation for time - but thank you for the explanation nonetheless!!

    • @munaiverse7662
      @munaiverse7662 Před rokem +8

      @@SciGuys This reply had that shy rizz

    • @APairOfOldSkoolVans
      @APairOfOldSkoolVans Před rokem +4

      @@SciGuysThis officially clarification’s existence is everything

    • @morganmeadowes6861
      @morganmeadowes6861 Před rokem +1

      Actually, I have never heard that before and I’ll just justify it by being German. 👀

  • @hanzib31
    @hanzib31 Před rokem +23

    When corry was talking about being attracted to men and women in different ways...my brain immediately went "yeah, women in birkenstocks is hot. Men in birkenstocks is an ick". I have never thought this before but now it is an objective truth 😂 I will be running my life around this very niche and arbitrary rule from now on.

  • @ChubuPeng
    @ChubuPeng Před rokem +92

    i personally like the bi = attraction to same/different genders since that accounts for the "two" in bi. two types of attraction. just like heterosexual = attraction to diff genders, and homosexual = attraction to same genders
    but yea gets annoying when people think bi people cant like non-binary people.. like do people forget about non-binary bisexuals lol, like why would i exclude my own genders

    • @solsystem1342
      @solsystem1342 Před rokem +13

      Hi, I am also a nonbinary bisexual and I am in point of fact dating a lesbian. Sexuality is more complicated than the literal dictionary definition and people can do whatever they want with their labels /thank you very much❤

  • @FrozEnbyWolf150
    @FrozEnbyWolf150 Před rokem +49

    No, I'm aroace agender. Though I found that there's a lot of overlap between the ways bisexuals and asexuals socialize and form relationships. This might be why asexual used to be categorized under bisexual, and why a lot of asexuals used to identify as bisexual before the asexual label existed. I've sometimes described my asexuality as bi or pan, dialed down to zero, since I technically have the same level of attraction to all genders.

    • @ffreeze9924
      @ffreeze9924 Před rokem +4

      all my friends are bi so that first part's gotta be true. Also yeah we're all bi following the zero equals zero logic

    • @morganmeadowes6861
      @morganmeadowes6861 Před rokem +6

      Omg, you have the three As! Really random but I’m aroace and nonbinary and when I was still trying to figure out what my gender identity was I really wanted to be agender to have the AAA going on (and maybe dress up as a battery for hallowe’en).
      I, too, thought I was bi in the past, although biromantic because what even is romantic attraction, I still don’t know! 🫠

  • @pixilshadows
    @pixilshadows Před rokem +15

    I'm so glad Shaaba brought up the bi-cycle and social vs. sexual attraction to men/women. As a pansexual they-dy (nb lady), i 100% connected with that.

  • @mollyn03
    @mollyn03 Před rokem +9

    Thank you for the representation!
    I'm a bisexual millennial who came out in my early 30's & am also in a straight-passing long-term relationship. The pressure to not be out about my sexual orientation is huge and pretty omnipresent (usually presenting itself in the form of people not understanding why I would even tell anyone I'm bi when I 'pass' as straight and am not looking to hook up with anyone). I am out, because it is really important to me that I am, but it can be a bit lonely. I love this kind of content - it makes me feel very seen.

  • @mattexists133
    @mattexists133 Před rokem +19

    i am not a women but i learnt from this podcast that i am technically bisexual, neat!

  • @jasminesmalley1322
    @jasminesmalley1322 Před rokem +24

    Ya'll should do a part two and talk about The Science of Bisexual Men

    • @mosscoveredstone
      @mosscoveredstone Před rokem +1

      actually they did! about a year ago now, the science of bisexual men with AreTheyGay it's a really good episode!

    • @jasminesmalley1322
      @jasminesmalley1322 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@mosscoveredstone oh wow you're so correct! And I watched that video too wow 😂😅

  • @leahdossantos9556
    @leahdossantos9556 Před rokem +15

    Omg, the attraction fluctuation throughout the month! I've noticed this in myself! I feel so validated, lol.
    I'm a cis woman(mostly) and I don't know if I'm straight or bi. I know for sure that I'm attracted to men, but I can't pinpoint if I would consider how I feel about women as attraction. I have moments of wondering if I'm just straight and too fixated on the topic, but then I get into Strange Moods(lol), often around my period, where the feelings that I'm uncertain about get undeniably strong and it throws me for a loop😭

  • @jospinner1183
    @jospinner1183 Před rokem +5

    I'm a botanist, and we all have Opinions on the state of scientific and academic publishing. (It sucks.) Access to research articles is a major issue, particularly for researchers in poor countries where academic and research institutions don't have a few million dollars to throw at Elsevier for subscriptions. Yes, there are some pirate workarounds online, but the simplest way to get access to a journal article behind a paywall?
    Just email the corresponding author and ask. (This is usually the author with an asterisk by their name.) Authors are generally not allowed to publish our work on our own websites, but we do have the right to send copies (PDFs) of our articles to anyone who asks us. I _love_ getting emails about my research, too, and am delighted when someone wants to read my work.
    So for anyone here who wants to read an article and is faced with a demand for a $40+ fee, just email the corresponding author. You'll absolutely make a scientist's day.

    • @akinyiomer4589
      @akinyiomer4589 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Thank yooouuuu 😭💕 one of the best life & education hacks ever

  • @JennaGetsCreative
    @JennaGetsCreative Před rokem +17

    Am I bisexual or a woman? Kinda sorta not really. I am demisexual, panromantic, and afab non-binary.

  • @KristiChan1
    @KristiChan1 Před rokem +47

    Me: Ooh, new Sci Guys!
    Also me: Oof, an hour and a half long...can my ADHD take it?
    Also also me: Shaaba! I will force myself to watch!

    • @shaaba
      @shaaba Před rokem +6

      🥺 hope you enjoyed it! x

    • @KristiChan1
      @KristiChan1 Před rokem +2

      @@shaaba Indeed I did! 😃

  • @Cheyscrochetshop
    @Cheyscrochetshop Před rokem +15

    I’m commenting about my womanhood and bisexuality 😂

  • @ruvimbosaungweme6265
    @ruvimbosaungweme6265 Před rokem +6

    Oh my gosh this episode was so validating and eye-opening for me. I've always struggled with imposter syndrome when it came to my sexuality because of how certain labels are perceived in general (e.g., that bisexuality strictly means attraction to 2 different genders and those 2 genders are male and female) when they can and do mean so much more. I felt like certain parts of my sexuality that don't fit into societal norms were too nuanced and complicated that it only made sense for me to identify as mostly straight cos that part of my sexuality is straight forward (for the most part). Since all the other stuff that make up my sexuality didn't seem to fit into any box/label I'd come to know, I felt like it was deceitful or wrong to claim to be bisexual or pansexual because I didn't fully identify with the definitions of those labels I thought were set in stone. But it is true that sexuality is nuanced and specific to each person even if they identify under the same 'label'.

  • @jaybirdvlogs7279
    @jaybirdvlogs7279 Před rokem +15

    "Children, shut up" -Corry Will, 2023

  • @kathryn1515
    @kathryn1515 Před rokem +7

    Around 57-ish minutes as a pansexual I 100% agree it just doesn't compute how you be attracted to only one gender like huh 🤨 how does that work i genuinely don't understand

  • @silkedavid8876
    @silkedavid8876 Před rokem +6

    That was soooo interesting! Shabaa is a great guest, her knowledge was phenomenal. I really wish a lot of people who I socialise with would be open to listen to you, but I am afraid they are so stuck in their beliefs which they had for 40 years. (most of them are above 60 years old.)

  • @Am3lia77
    @Am3lia77 Před rokem +7

    57:54 I’m glad Shaaba said this because I sometimes feel like a freak. I’m very much attracted to both men and women physically (making me bi) and of course the physical attraction in both is different and it fluctuates but I’d say I’m heteroromantic too

  • @Enkiaswad
    @Enkiaswad Před rokem +12

    That thing about 2 women kissing or more being so sexualized makes it so difficult for me to understand what my actual sexuality could be. I was raised religious (like shaaba!) where being sexualized is bad and you have to avoid it at all costs. I dressed like a soft butch for most of my teen and young adult years, somehow I noticed it was efficient at keeping male attention far away from me. So kissing a girl was so far away from what I would do because it would literally make me think of the famous Madonna-Britney-Cristina kiss.. yeah add growing up in the 2000s to my confusion and wondering how much I might have repressed something or still am.
    Halp >.

    • @Enkiaswad
      @Enkiaswad Před rokem +1

      @erssiemajor8010 I agree in a way, but in my case I am already in a committed relationship now and have been for years. So it's more about worrying I might have missed something in my life. I know you don't have to have had experience with every gender in order to be allowed to identify as bi or pan. But I still wonder. I feel a bit cheated that I didn't ACTUALLY question sooner, while I was dating around, I could have had more options (I like men, but a small subset of them that is. I think I am either attracted to some femininity, androgyny and gender non conformity).
      I started dating and having sex at only 25 and at 26-27 I started my current relationship. I am happy in my relationship but I question and wonder what if. Maybe I have some huge FOMO I don't know x)

    • @solsystem1342
      @solsystem1342 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Enkiaswad
      I mean, no one said you had to be monogamous /it's more complicated than that but still
      Basically, what I mean is that if you and your partner discuss it and you're both 100% on board with it monogamy isn't the only type of relationship. I'm not one to say if it's better or worse but, depending on the people it could be🤷‍♀️

    • @Enkiaswad
      @Enkiaswad Před rokem +2

      @solsystem1342 I actually thought about that! Also since I have friends who started being polygamous. It does open up more possibilities. Though for now, I am not considering it because I am providing for us both financially, which I feel like makes it more tricky...
      And then of course there is the fear of irredeemably being a complete disappointment to my family... and they don't even know I live with someone unmarried and never want to marry or have kids. Like I am not even doing straightness properly and have to hide most of my life from them 🤦🏻‍♀️ so actually it might not even make a difference anymore at this point.

  • @jupitershallcross7388
    @jupitershallcross7388 Před rokem +13

    i am neither bisexual or a woman, but i am a AFAB nonbinary lesbian (the agab is relevant to the rest of my comment i promise) and i wanted to talk about the more ‘male typical characteristics’ of lesbians. i think that lesbianism is almost a gender within itself because of the way cishet women’s gender and expression is often so influenced by the patriarchy that when you step away from that it’s an entirely different experience. just my experience but i think it’s relevant

    • @suzannax
      @suzannax Před rokem +4

      Being gender non conforming really is a different world and often not talked about.

  • @morganmeadowes6861
    @morganmeadowes6861 Před rokem +2

    I thought it was really interesting that you brought up the fact that just because someone is aroused watching porn with people of a specific gender in it doesn’t necessarily reflect on that person’s sexuality because in a way, that is already an established fact in the ace community. In the literal definition of asexuality we say that a person is asexual if the do not experience sexual attraction to other people, that is regardless of the question of wether or not they can be aroused or masturbate or have sex or like having sex.
    So to see you theorise kind of the same idea of what defines sexuality but in the context of other sexualities was really interesting. Most of the time when sexualities are defined it focuses more on who a person is sexually attracted to who the person isn’t sexually attracted to, whiteout trying to define what sexual attraction is in the first place.
    (And let me tell you, as an asexual and aromantic person there is little more frustrating than to define your orientation as a lack of something, something that you can’t really identify in the first place because you don’t experience it, so really we have to rely on you allos to define sexual attraction and romantic attraction.)
    Anyway, this was a really interesting podcast, thanks for taking the time to make it!

  • @passiert1027
    @passiert1027 Před rokem +6

    I am both bisexual, and a cis woman. 😊

  • @catStone92
    @catStone92 Před rokem +9

    when you say you don't understand where the double standard comes from (where a woman can kiss another woman and it's hot, but a man can't kiss another man), it's mysoginy.
    if you think about sex in very heteronormative terms, the man is the dominant one and the one doing the penetration and the woman is submissive and is being penetrated. And the hierarchy comes from here.
    Like, if you're a man and you like men (or if you're being called gay, or you like getting pegged or something) the implication is that you play the submissive role (at least some times) and that takes away from your masculinity, you are less than and that puts you on the same level as a woman.
    where as if you're a woman who likes women, well you're already a woman and also women don't have penises (let's just ignore that some of them do) and so sex between the two of you doesn't even count. It's not even cheating because there's no penis involved.
    there's also the aspect of how close emotional connections between two men and two women are seen and because women are understood to have deeper emotional connections and it's also seen as normal that they touch each other more so intimacy between women isn't necessarily seen as romantic or sexual in any way. In fact, sometimes wlw relationships are seen as not as serious as hetero relationships and are seen as "practice" for later in life, which as a woman who likes women 🤮
    and then transphobia builds up on this where if you don't see trans women as women then when a trans woman is attrative to a man, well that means she is tricking the man into being gay. Does it matter if she's had bottom surgery? No, she will always have big dick energy.
    And then because of the hierarchy between men and women, when people try to find a "logical" explanation to why someone would want to transition, well trans men want to transtion so they can climb that social ladder. Escaping mysoginy is the only possible explanation. So what about trans women, why would someone want to debase themselves by turning into a woman? Must be some nefarious, perverse reason /s
    ok, ramble over

    • @Shirumoon
      @Shirumoon Před rokem +2

      "It's not even cheating because there's no penis involved."
      This is so important to point out! Because it is an issue even in liberal circles like the polyamorous/non-monogamous community. There is a lot of debate on the OPP (one penis policy) where men are willing to let their female partners be intimate or romantically involved with other women only. Even my otherwise very feminist boyfriend is not free from this way of thinking but it is just so deeply ingrained into all of us that there can only be one man and one man is enough. Meanwhile women aren't even considered competition because we could never ever dethrone a *male™*

  • @conlon4332
    @conlon4332 Před 16 dny +2

    1:00:40 I have a lot of sleep problems, and I have a lot of people - ordinary people and professionals alike - telling me that I should do this that or the other because "science has proven that these things help people sleep" but no, science has proven that these things help the average person sleep, or whatever people they studied, it has not proven anything about what will help _me_ sleep, and I know very well that I am not an average person and that these things don't help me, because I already tried them on about half a dozen separate occasions over many years, and found they either made no difference or made things worse. My sleep problems are hard to explain they're so unusual, and some people I suspect still didn't fully understand the problem after my best attempt to explain it. These are not normal sleep problems. And yet some people will still insist that I'm just being stubborn and illogical for not doing the things that are "scientifically proven to help" like no, you're stubborn and illogical for not believing me when I tell you they don't work for me. I'm not disputing that they might help for most people, all I know is that they don't work for me, and I have far more reason to know what works for me than some study I wasn't even part of. Even if I was part of it, or someone like me, they were probably just written off as an anomaly!

  • @Jordyb33123
    @Jordyb33123 Před rokem +2

    When I found the word bisexual and looked into it, I felt like the penny dropped and I finally understood who I was. I then wondered if I was discriminating by not using pansexual. It was actually notcorry that reaffirmed my faith in using bisexual as that is what I feel I am, pan doesn’t feel like the right word for me

  • @ayakoblue4850
    @ayakoblue4850 Před rokem +2

    Really funny episode!!! 😂😂😂😂

  • @pandajesus5052
    @pandajesus5052 Před rokem +3

    lovely episode, had much fun watching. I am neither bi nor a woman, but fun fact, I once thought I was both. At the same time! I am nb and aroace now

  • @thequeerrunner5745
    @thequeerrunner5745 Před rokem +8

    The bi/pan debate gets me. Ive heard Shaaba talk about this a lot, and it's just another way to other trans people. And also as Jamie said, you're being transphobic by suggesting that trans ppl are not allowed to be binary. That they aren't male or female but something different, which is so problematic.

  • @lostinmymind8147
    @lostinmymind8147 Před rokem

    i'm listening with headphones and the second ad bell caught me off guard and i almost dropped my laptop because it scared the heck out of me xD

  • @merilahna
    @merilahna Před rokem +3

    i am not a woman nor a bisexual, though willing to take a raincheck on it just in case

  • @Flippedthechip
    @Flippedthechip Před rokem +2

    I’m a straight white man, but bisexual women are girlbosses agreed! Also if you aren’t a woman. Or if you aren’t bisexual. Love you for who you are❤️ gender, color, sexual orientation

  • @sylve2474
    @sylve2474 Před rokem +3

    As an ace person,, the whole debate of like "all cis women react to prn/are turned on by it" thing seems ironic bc like, I personally could disprove it,,, at least in terms of watching it,,, like, I could read smth if I was in the mood for it an find it entertaining or whatever,, but with what actually went on in the study, it would not be the result in the slightest,,,, so then onto the topic of preconceived notions its like, preconceived notion most people don't acknowledge is that not everyone is allosexual to begin with

    • @marlenaneedham3818
      @marlenaneedham3818 Před rokem

      so the first study that found all women are turned on by all porn only measured like moisture or secretions, and was actually disproven not long after by scientists measuring female (xx) erectile tissue growth and it corresponded to what they said they were sexually attracted to and not sexually attracted to.

  • @essendossev362
    @essendossev362 Před rokem +12

    AFAB NB bisexual here, whatever that counts for.
    Also to the thing about in-group and out-group essentialism being a hypothesis for racism: I find it absolutely ridiculous that people employ that as an excuse while so many people (racists included) also have pets. If it is biological essentialism that drives racism, please explain to me why so many people value a living being that's so much less biologically related to them than certain racialized people? I call bullshit. It's socially learned, it's a tragic societal inheritance. Race is - say it with me now - a social construct.

    • @solsystem1342
      @solsystem1342 Před rokem +3

      It's so dumb. Like I legit people try and tell me (a white girl) that they don't like [insert race here] because [racist justification here] and expect me to buy it😂.
      It's totally valid to have traits that you find hot but like trying to discredit ever liking someone from a group based on skin color is as dumb as claiming you could never be attracted to someone with brown eyes.

  • @katebandy3085
    @katebandy3085 Před 7 měsíci

    i listened to this episode on apple podcasts, but i wanted to pop over to youtube to mention this: the theory that i subscribe to about the social perception of bi men being either gay, straight, or lying about being gay is that it's a vestige from the aids crisis. sources covering this have been obviously hard to find, especially sources from before the aids crisis took off, but bisexual men were stigmatized as being the carriers that spread the "gay disease" to innocent straights. bisexuality, specifically in men, then became the enemy of straight people who thought they weren't able to be affected by aids. this general attitude towards bi men still exists, though the memory of why isn't in the public consciousness anymore. either this topic hasn't really been studied or the studies on it aren't easy for the average non-science person to find, because i haven't been able to find any resources on this topic. i found this idea from another youtube video: verilybitchie has an excellent video on the phenomenon that you should watch!

  • @JOKERS-EYE
    @JOKERS-EYE Před 7 měsíci

    I am bi and gender fluid, this is one of my favorite podcasts thank you for making great content. 💗💜💙

  • @Johnny_T779
    @Johnny_T779 Před rokem +3

    Pan trans man here!
    And, reactions to porn may vary depending on the kind of porn displayed? The industry is sadly dominated by penetrative sex depictions, and lots of women find it really meh (also, it kinda looks a bit grotesque and unaesthetic imo). Fondling and oral scenes are far more likely to be arousing to watch because we actually can have a good look at parts, as opposed to just watching two people shagging frantically (complete with the ham-slap sounds 😂🤣) which often look just comical.

  • @shannonprice2711
    @shannonprice2711 Před rokem +2

    I didn't realize I was Bi because I'm not sexually attracted to women but I have had a very strong relationship with a woman which I realized was romantic I'm Ace with women and mostly demi with men. Questioning Trans and Nonbinary I have no experience to draw on to know yet. It's important for people to know this stuff exists so they can live the life that most aligns with who they are.

  • @conlon4332
    @conlon4332 Před 17 dny +1

    1:06:10 I don't understand why people would be prejudiced or racist on the basis of smelling like curry. Like I'm not saying people aren't, I'm sure they are, but it's just so dumb. Like, if you eat a lot of spices you will probably smell of spices/like curry. On average Asian people eat more spices and curries than Europeans, as they're a bigger part of traditional food in Asia (a lot of European food is very boring). Most of the spices we do eat in Europe come from Asia, so it makes sense they're eaten more in Asia. But that's not a race thing, it's a cultural and geographic culinary phenomenon. As a European (specifically English), I eat a lot of spices and curries, and probably smell of curry. I would probably feel drawn to someone else who smelt like curry, because I would feel they were more like me, but I suppose the opposite might apply to someone who doesn't like curry. I still think it's dumb to make it a race thing, though.

  • @ameliemason5315
    @ameliemason5315 Před rokem +1

    Where can I find and read Jamie’s paper?

  • @RedJadeArt
    @RedJadeArt Před rokem +3

    I do happen to be a bi woman. And yeah literally I only use the phrase “bisexual” is because that was the term that was popular in college at the time when i happened to come out. There’s technically a difference between bi and pan people but people on the m spec rarely care too much about them xD

    • @akinyiomer4589
      @akinyiomer4589 Před 11 měsíci

      Ooh what does m-spec mean?
      I'm another bi woman here, recently-ish realised this about myself but not yet 100% out and I feel like there's sooo much to learn about the bi+ community!
      I'm using bi+ as the major umbrella term to encompass all the goodness that comes under our spectrum of more-than-oneness.

    • @RedJadeArt
      @RedJadeArt Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@akinyiomer4589 m-spec means similar to bi+ - everyone who is bi, pan, Omnisexual, or otherwise attracted to multiple different genders.
      Back when I came out Bi was just the thing people said xD but there’s much more to the community than that

    • @akinyiomer4589
      @akinyiomer4589 Před 11 měsíci

      @@RedJadeArt Thank you!
      Y'know looking at all this I can't help but feel that there's been some duplication of terms in our community. I thought I was using bi+ correctly but turns out there's an ultra-close synonym in m-spec, and a lot of times the lack of daylight between bi / pan / omnisexual leaves me grasping at how to substantially differentiate between those words in a really meaningful way.
      I just want someone to point me to who the Naming & Definition Committee is because I have some thoughts! I want people outside of our community to understand what we're talking about, not just those of us in it lol! 😅😂 I like the welcoming and flexible/freeing nature of "letting people choose" but at the same time ... how is this helping, especially those who might be questioning their monosexuality? And it's not even that we insist that sexual orientations be *prescriptive*, I just want us to also understand that they can be largely descriptive so people who feel that they don't 100% line up with say, definition x, y or z feel completely alienated either by the rest of us or by the word. I dunno.

    • @RedJadeArt
      @RedJadeArt Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@akinyiomer4589 that’s the issue - there is no such thing as a naming convention or committee xD there’s just words which get popularised by various authors which stick or don’t. Example I got m-spec from Julia Serrano, who is a famous trans lesbian feminist.
      Besides if you take gender and sexuality to be a matter of performance and replication of societal expectations (or rejection of such) then literally any gender you assign yourself and perform is valid. This is kind of what Judith Butler was getting at in Gender Trouble.
      Personally I really like the term “GRSM” - Gender, romantic, and sexual minorities as an umbrella term. It can describe everyone who is not cis, straight, and binary.

    • @akinyiomer4589
      @akinyiomer4589 Před 11 měsíci

      @@RedJadeArt
      Time and cultural impact is often the arbiter of linguistic battles, so maybe we don't need a Committee™️ (TM) right now but honestly it would really help me.
      I admit I haven't read Butler's work so I might not be understanding her ideas in full context, but I actually strongly disagree with most of what she's getting at here. I understand that in academia of the social and physical/medical sciences, and even in the realm of scholarly political activism, such concepts as "gender is a performance" can absolutely make sense given a specific understanding, but my problem is that that understanding is borderline academic only and will not resonate completely in the real world.
      I'm cis femme, and it almost feels erasure to the point of insult to insinuate that every aspect of my feminity is a performance either to fit in or to reject a/any group. Some of the stuff I do and like just *is*, its just *innate*. I can't explain why I'm this way, or why I'm so comfortable this way without using words that go off as poetry into the ether.
      I can imagine its the same for a trans woman who identifies as a femme woman too. In their earlier life when they tried living as a guy it was either a struggle or it felt off. And trans people often talk of the way they *really* tried! *That* would've been the performance, not the real innate woman that no one was expecting them to act like, and it's not as if when they transition they have to come to cis women to be taught how to act or be, or they mould everything they do on us because we're the blueprint or something.
      And this is not me trying to say that self-determination of your gender identity isn't valid, it patently is, I'm just saying my gripe is with the linguistics of academia and political-activist discussion. They take all this care to be rigorous in their understanding and observations so that they can define terms and human experiences for us, but then one of the most important parts of amassing learning comes - i.e. communicating your ideas to the general public and that spirit of wanting to do right by both the group you're advocating for and the general public - is absolutely lost in the sauce.
      Because they failed to think about things like "I need an inclusive term for x, y, z yes, but could any confusion or misunderstanding arise from this? Is there another group our groups of people I need to consult with before making this "the word"? Is using this word gonna inhibit someone's understanding of this etc?"
      Lol does any of what I'm saying make sense. The YT comments section is absolutely the wrong place to be trying to have this debate lmao, so for that I apologise.

  • @akinyiomer4589
    @akinyiomer4589 Před rokem +1

    I'm a bisexual woman so yay! 😊 But if we're gonna go full-on with the microlabels, I'm biromantic bisexual but also on the demisexual scale, and on the gender & expression side I'm a cis woman who mostly presents femme.
    However holistically and accurately i feel all that fits me, i know its way too much for most people so i stick to bi woman. I've found the microlabels useful for my own self understanding and for signalling specifics in communities where those words will be understood (like this one) but I'm never gonna use them irl convo.
    Being bi is very confusing sonetimes, the fluidity and the bi-cycleness of it all threw me off-centre. But the more secure i am of myself, the better it is and i find i fluctuate and question less.

  • @Coccinelf
    @Coccinelf Před rokem +2

    I'm a biromantic asexual woman but I never answered anything like that in any survey. Sorry scientists!

  • @Ross-cecil
    @Ross-cecil Před rokem +1

    omfg miniclip

  • @sanalone9492
    @sanalone9492 Před rokem +6

    i'm not sure how i feel about "skin-vibe" lol

  • @RaineInChaos
    @RaineInChaos Před rokem +1

    6:36 "Children, shut up"
    YES THIS

  • @missylee3022
    @missylee3022 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Have you ever used a fountain pen😂

  • @deloresjames4620
    @deloresjames4620 Před rokem +3

    I am both a woman and a bisexual 😁

  • @eclypsed7525
    @eclypsed7525 Před rokem +5

    Both!

  • @Dr.Worm666
    @Dr.Worm666 Před rokem +5

    Bi! 💖💙💜

  • @TransGuyShane
    @TransGuyShane Před rokem +1

    This was super interesting to watch / listen to.
    I'm ftm and demi/bi.
    I thought I was demi straight but then elliot page came out as ftm and I was like "omg he is still super hot.... oh okay I'm bi" , I'm always curious as to what people who are bi class bi as.
    For me it's my gender and others.

  • @747gabe
    @747gabe Před 11 měsíci

    9:09 true also if u have a never list then u have a no matter what list n ur assuming those wont overlap. Which blows their mind when they do haha

  • @christinadumont8300
    @christinadumont8300 Před rokem +2

    Woman, but not bi, I’m pan!

  • @JuxGD
    @JuxGD Před rokem +2

    YOO ITS SHAABA

  • @Anna_ace_cb
    @Anna_ace_cb Před rokem +3

    Yes I too have concluded that Shaaba is not a table

  • @hweiii
    @hweiii Před rokem +1

    Pupil dialation is great but I've found it so difficult to see pupil dilation in really dark pupils, is this potentially gonna skew studies away from people with highly melanised eyes?

    • @jesthered7966
      @jesthered7966 Před rokem +1

      The way it is measured should not. Just like it doesn't affect how ophthalmologists do their work. They aren't standing next to them staring at their eyes, they are using cameras to track the change. Lighting can be controlled as well. While lighter colour eyes are more sensitive to light and it can be easier to see the change, dark brown eyes are still the dominant eye colour and techniques are developed around them first with lighter eye colours being secondary. It is a very good question though!

  • @danitotd
    @danitotd Před rokem +7

    I love Shaaba ♥️

  • @88marome
    @88marome Před 8 měsíci +1

    I’m often wet without being aroused and being physically aroused does not mean being sexually/mentally aroused. So to me that measurement a really bad way to measure sexuality.

  • @conlon4332
    @conlon4332 Před 17 dny +1

    2:02 "In 2020, approximately 3.2% of the UK were over the age of 16." Sure, haha! That sounds about right.

  • @mimsygoodcat3449
    @mimsygoodcat3449 Před 5 měsíci

    I am both

  • @CaedmonOS
    @CaedmonOS Před rokem +1

    You could say I'm eyeroused

  • @Archedien
    @Archedien Před rokem +1

    I was Bi-agnosed as A Male Bi-cycle. I don’t fall in The Center of This particular Venn Diagram, but if You do Your next Talk on Bisexual Males, then I’m Your Guy.

  • @cocomuffin5007
    @cocomuffin5007 Před rokem +2

    bi woman here helloooo

  • @lk-l2818
    @lk-l2818 Před rokem

    Im both

  • @BethanySchwarz5678
    @BethanySchwarz5678 Před rokem

    Going off what she was saying about empathy, I wonder if mirror neurons have anything to do with it?

  • @bethanyoaks
    @bethanyoaks Před 7 měsíci

    I'm both ❤️

  • @kilumbata
    @kilumbata Před rokem

    both

  • @mliljegard19771209
    @mliljegard19771209 Před rokem

    Yes

  • @pula.29
    @pula.29 Před 3 měsíci

    Yes and yes.

  • @xal461
    @xal461 Před rokem +3

    A woman of bisexuality

  • @More13Feen
    @More13Feen Před rokem +2

    I used to say I am a bisexual woman. Now I know its more of a pansexual agender person who presents femenin cuz its easyer lol

  • @Mermanda
    @Mermanda Před rokem +2

    I am a bisexual woman 😊

  • @CDKohmy
    @CDKohmy Před rokem +4

    I'm a bi enby

  • @manuelhernandez1218
    @manuelhernandez1218 Před rokem +1

    Yes, I'm bi.

  • @henhenhenhenhenhen
    @henhenhenhenhenhen Před rokem +3

    A woman but, alas, on the asexual spectrum

  • @BardianAngel
    @BardianAngel Před rokem +3

    "The science of Bicycles"

    • @shaaba
      @shaaba Před rokem

      BICYCLE RIGHTS. x

  • @bzztthundaa
    @bzztthundaa Před rokem +1

    Shaaba!🥰

  • @carpevinum8645
    @carpevinum8645 Před rokem +2

    Both, hi 👋

  • @legok6037
    @legok6037 Před rokem +1

    Yes, I am a bi woman!

  • @ambrexd5062
    @ambrexd5062 Před rokem +2

    I find left handed people incredibly attractive as well!! You’re not alone !

  • @baybiez1078
    @baybiez1078 Před rokem +1

    I’m both 🤭

  • @Ella16360
    @Ella16360 Před rokem +1

    I am a woman and a lesbian

  • @dq8431
    @dq8431 Před rokem +3

    i think i'm bisexual, i don't think i'm a woman

  • @ericl.f.c2758
    @ericl.f.c2758 Před rokem +1

    Yes I’m bisexual and I’m a Demiboy

  • @MischievousBastard
    @MischievousBastard Před rokem +2

    I should be clear that the trans community outside of sexology are far less diplomatic in our language towards and about J. Michael Bailey.

  • @jessilovely
    @jessilovely Před rokem +1

    But what DOES riz mean?

    • @akinyiomer4589
      @akinyiomer4589 Před rokem

      It's a new slang term for charisma, particularly the type some people display in romantic and sexual settings. Phonetically "riz" / "rizz" / "ris" is just shortened from cha- *ris* -ma.

    • @jessilovely
      @jessilovely Před rokem +1

      @@akinyiomer4589 Ha! No way 😆 would’ve never guessed that, thanks so much 🙏🏽

  • @heatherhatton2282
    @heatherhatton2282 Před rokem +1

    A woman. And a bisexual 🎉

  • @jonasateo
    @jonasateo Před rokem +2

    I am bi, but not a woman :D

  • @karinelfwing9095
    @karinelfwing9095 Před rokem

    Yes, I am a woman but not bi.

  • @lucehorn
    @lucehorn Před rokem +1

    I’m bisexual but not a woman

  • @sweetest4684
    @sweetest4684 Před rokem +1

    Bisexual woman here 😎

  • @Ellie-SueJackson-gr1ns
    @Ellie-SueJackson-gr1ns Před 11 měsíci

    😄😄 bye yes

  • @AB-qt6uw
    @AB-qt6uw Před rokem +1

    I am a woman, maybe??? Used to think I was bi but pan ace.