The Science of Phobias (with
Vložit
- čas přidán 29. 10. 2022
- Boo! To celebrate Halloween, we're covering the very spooky topic of phobias... Also NoahFinnce (the 5th Sci Guy) is here too.
Check out Noah: / noahfinnce
Grab our merch: normalcitizen.store/collectio...
Support the podcast on Patreon: / sciguys
WATCH EVERY EPISODE:
bit.ly/2z3ifN0
SUBSCRIBE TO SCI GUYS
Apple Podcasts: apple.co/2TAPC3h
Spotify: spoti.fi/2H91rZu
CZcams: bit.ly/2Z7bWTk
JOIN OUR DISCORD
/ discord
FOLLOW THE PODCAST
Twitter: / sciguyspod
Instagram: / sciguyspod
Facebook: / sciguyspod
References & Further Reading
www.nhs.uk/mental-health/cond....
www.nhs.uk/mental-health/cond...
www.mind.org.uk/information-s...
www.apa.org/monitor/julaug05/....
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
www.mind.org.uk/information-s...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NB...
www.hopkinsmedicine.org/healt...
www.verywellmind.com/list-of-...
www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-...
Follow the SCI GUYS
@notcorry / @lukecutforth
Do you have any phobias?
Claustrophobic and Pyrophobia
I don't like water in the dark
Butterflies. I have no idea why.
I don't think I have any phobias anymore but I did used to have autophobia (an intense fear of being alone) but I did a combination therapies (all self done) for at least 5 years and I am now perfectly fine with being alone
Not really, no
“Psychologists pathologizing everything again” - Luke.
Me, a psychologist: “True dat”.
Also, on the topic of whether it's worse to be scared of mayo than spiders, it depends. I see more random mayo on day to day basis than I see spiders. But then if you're chilling at home and you know you didn't buy any mayo, a jar of it isn't suddenly gonna appear in the corner of the room.
Really appreciated this episode, i was diagnosed with agoraphobia late 2019/early 2020, It changed everything for me, i had a fear of public transport, going outside, stepping into shops, seeing friends and it was awful! Luckily i was medicated and after about a year of constant therapy and some really patient friends i got back on my feet, now i can take buses alone, i see my friends and im even working again! my biggest fear/obstacle i still face to this day isnt the fear of being outside its the lack of safe space in social settings, my brain is like "well what if you have a panic attack on the bus and you cant get off" ANYWAY enough rambling just wanted to give a little insight ha, really interesting episode and i love how you guys inform people in a non patronising way thats still informative :)
hey, as a psychologist, I have to clarify this: the DSM is created by the American Psychiatrists Association (APA, which is not the same than the American Psychologists Association, also called APA, which is a very bad name to use bc the American Pediatric Association also exists.... and the American Psychoanalysts Association, but that's a tottaly different beast) , so no psychologists involved there. In fact, many of the psychologists who do science based psychology criticize the DSM bc it pathologizes many aspects of the human experience based on somewhat questionable (very lousy, tbh) empirical data.
Claustrophobia, house centipedes, and I have a fear of amusement park rides, boats, planes, subways, and buses, because of my vomit phobia.
I think I have a phobia of alcohol? Like, not just a fear of drinking myself, but a fear of other people drinking. (Or maybe it's not a phobia, maybe it's completely logical to be scared sh*tless)
I graduated high school a couple days ago and I tried to go to the afterparty, but I lasted about 10 minutes before I totally freaked out and went home lol.
No way! I thought I was the only one who had that fear/phobia. I don't have it anymore, but I'm glad I wasn't the only one hahaha
curious. is this trauma based or just hypothetical fear of what could happen?
What are you actually fearful of, drunken behaviour?
this seems like a more logical fear but i may be biased as it sounds extremely relatable to me
Luke, you and I have the exact same thought process. I can change my mind almost immediately once I have the information.
I had emetophobia (extreme fear of vomit/vomiting) from early childhood into high school, which made me a bit if a germaphobe too. I’d avoid foods or behaviors that could likely cause food poisoning (undercooked foods) or induce vomiting (drinking, rollercoasters, running). If I found out someone near me was sick, I was overcome by a sense of doom that lasted for days until I was sure I was in the clear and wouldn’t also fall ill. Also couldn’t listen to vomit sounds.
I started having random panic attacks when I was 8 and over time developed mild agoraphobia (mild because I wasn’t one of those people that literally couldn’t leave their home for years on end). I could do things like go to the grocery store with my mom, but sometimes would still have a panic attack. In high school it got to a point where it was hard to even be in the parking lot of my apartment building.
Nowadays I don’t think I have genuine phobias. I am afraid of heights, being in tight spaces, and I can’t stand to be around moths and butterflies. I have a weird fear of Google Earth (satellite photos give me vertigo). But I no longer have fears that interfere with my everyday life. But when I did, it really was draining and debilitating.
I have almost the same experience with emetophobia. I developed it in early childhood and it has lead to me being a bit of a germaphobe because I worry that if I don't wash my hands all the time, I'll catch a virus that will make me throw up. An when my mom had a stomach virus, I felt sick with anxiety for like two weeks after because I was scared of getting it, even though she was okay after one day of sickness.
But this phobia kinda comes and goes in waves for me. There is always a certain level of worry but it goes way up if I feel a little sick or was in a situation where I could've been infected.
I have emetophobia too. I feel like no one talks about how it affects day to day life, and can easily spiral into eating disorders or other anxieties/phobias. Weird to find people with the same thing under a youtube video
Me too, exact same experience. Honestly it kinda annoys me Emetophobia is classified as a simple phobia because it controlled every inch of my life for several years. I wasn't just afraid of throwing up, I was afraid of existing inside of body that could. Your own body isn't something you can avoid or escape from so then comes the eating disorders, agoraphobia, OCD, and never ending panic attacks. I actually would wish I had a phobia of something simple I could avoid like snakes.
59:03 I know a teacher who teaches like 4 to 8 year old children, and she has a phobia of spiders. Whenever there's a spider, she'll mask her fear and calmly tell the children to catch it and put it outside. She will probably pass out if she has to do it herself. But she knows it is an irrational fear and she doesn't want to make the children feel scared of spiders. So she just teaches them how to handle spiders and help children over any small fears they may have. She has also done the same with her own children, and I think she's a great example of how one should handle their phobia around children (where possible of course)
I think Noah asked a question I’d like to answer. I also learned about flooding and exposure therapy in psych 101. Flooding is like you said, an extreme exposure therapy, throwing you into the scary situation all at once. This is generally NOT therapy and NOT effective treatment for an actual phobia. Please don’t take Luke to an amusement park against his will and force him to get on a roller coaster for content! My friends in college thought it was hilarious to threaten throwing rats at my face and the thought of it only traumatized me more. This kind of “therapy” works wonders in TV and movies, like Indiana Jones. Not so much in real life. Actual exposure therapy is boring and doesn’t make good content lol
You guys are absolutely right about kids learning how to feel about a situation from their parents. My kid doesn't have much of a reaction at all when she gets minor bumps and such because my husband and are have both always just told her she's fine, go on. The neighbour's kid? If he comes to get my kid to play and then stubs his toe on the way back to his house, that's it, game over, we won't see him for an hour because he's gone in to be coddled. Kids also absolutely taylor their responses to the adult, though. Mine knows that I'm not giving in once I say no, no matter how much she begs, cries, throws things, etc., so she doesn't (or gives up quickly.) My husband? He'll give in and she knows it, so she puts on a show.
A fear of heights is standing on a bridge, looking down from behind the railing, and feeling a bit dizzy/scared.
A phobia of heights is not being able to bring yourself to get close to the railing, so you keep like at least 1m distance. In case of a really bad phobia it may even mean that you are too terrified to even get onto a bridge at all.
So the difference between a fear and a phobia is the difference between "this thing is scary" and "my fear of this thing will literally incapacitate me if I get too close to confronting said thing"
I had agoraphobia, I didn't go outside without my partner or parents for about 3 years. It was truly horrible, it took me months of therapy to be even able to get on a bus and then I'd still have an anxiety attack. It's a lot better now but I still often have a sense of dread when I go outside too much.
Happy Halloween:) I've always found phobias and fears interesting, glad to have a whole episode on it
I also find phobias so interesting
No phobias just general anxiety. Great episode really interesting always enjoy the chaos that Noahs presence brings
As a psychology student I’m loving these kinda episodes! More psychology!
I had a friend with painaquaphobia (the fear of wet bread)
Makes sense, wet bread is gross
i have two clinical phobias, emetaphobia and lepidopteraphobia. the latter is actually a fear of lepidoptarans, which is moths and butterflies! so i totally get corrys fear! apart from the actual phobias, im afraid of the dark, metal, roaches, grasshoppers, and crickets, wind turbine power windmill things, and most importantly.... airbags. i would genuinely rather get in a car crash and hit my head than the airbags go off😭
Not me just now realizing that I had agoraphobia for my entire teenage years.
I used to have really bad pyrophobia when i was a child until i was about 14. Probably came from trauma of seeing my neighbors house burn down when I was 5. It was so bad that I would have a panic attack every time i would even see a tiny birthday candle. Somehow it got better when i was 14 and i got myself a lighter to basically exposure therapy myself. Even though I didn't realise that was what i was doing. I'm probably not entirely unafraid of fire now but it atleast got much better so that it doesn't affect my normal life anymore.
(commenting on my gf's account)
I have a deadly fear of wasps. I stepped on a wasp nest when I was a young kid and got stung more times than I'll ever know. Ever since, whenever I see a wasp I either freeze up or literally run
Im scared of moths too Corry, they have NO concept of personal space! They fly wildly around the room and always right into you!!
I kill them by throwing a tea towel or t shirt like a net at them to knock them out the air and trap against the floor then hit the towel/shirt with a shoe 👍
i’m freaked out about ERs and hospitals… had four panic attacks on one visit
I'm scared of blood, injuries/cuts/bruises, needles, leeches, and spiders.
I don't think any of my fears are irrational or exaggerated and I can't think of anything I'm overly fearful of. I don't think I have a phobia.
CORY DOESNT LIKE MOTHS OR LEFT HANDED PEOPLE THIS IS JUST A PERSONAL ATTACK 😭
My phobia is specifically riding bikes
I have a fear of stop motion- lutumotophobia
Claustrophobia, bodies of water, monophobia, nyctophobia, borderline insomniphobia, and the supernatural, and answering the phone
Got bitten more than once by dogs and spiders, still no phobia, so there is more to it.
I feel like you guys need a new third to replace Jamp, but then you should refer to them as the 4th SciGuy and then see how Noah responds to being the 5th SciGuy
Luke's Cambridge Latin reference brought me back so hard!
Any and all bugs but especially the ones that can’t physically harm you, all my teeth falling out?? Idk I’ve had multiple dreams about it, also being trapped all alone in a space until the end of time 😄
Oh yes the dark too! It’s so scary like there just has to be a creepy monster lurking waiting to snack on me
Emetaphobia lads unite 😤✨✨😎
I used to have nyctophobia until I realized that technically it was just because I can’t see as well in the dark which technically feeds into my overall main umbrella of agnostophobia but it still doesn’t mean I’m not afraid of the dark anymore it just means I know the reason why I am afraid of it 🤷♀️
Oh so I have a phobia of school? Even though I know nothing really bad is going to happen I just cannot go in. Odd
Oh and also Agoraphobia? I can do it when I have safe people with me like my mum or friends, love going outside I just can’t do it.
I got told it was anxiety but that never really lined up for me, this episode helped me understand a few things about myself. Thank you
I have agoraphobia which got way worse with the 'rona, and a fear of clowns (I've seen a few terms for it, i think one is clouraphobia).
My biggest phobia is crane flies but I also have a fear of big spiders, heights, bridges, ice skating & thunder... I'm quite an anxious person
not enough to be a phobia, but i am irrationally afraid of being around clowns, costume mascots, and fish (but only if i am in the water *with* them)
I have the phobia, Mysophobia and Queunliskanphobia. Which is the fear of germs and spit. It's more spit though lol
My main two phobias are of insects (most but not all insects but especially spiders) and emetophobia - fear of throwing up. Towards the end of the episode Corry talks about how phobia differs from PTSD in that with phobia you're only really scared when you encounter the trigger, but for me with emetophobia it does affect me day to day to a degree. Like I'll be avoiding anything that could make me sick, whether it's alcohol, food or just being very diligent about washing my hands and washing my food etc. to avoid sickness. But also this phobia is very easily triggered and has you stuck in a loop where feeling slightly nauseous makes you anxious which then makes you more nauseous which makes you more anxious etc.
I've also had a fear of dogs for most of my life but the severity of it kinda comes and goes. I feel like sometime between the ages of 6-10 I had a couple of bad experiences where I was either being chased by a dog or had a dog jump at me or try to jump at me, which only served to make my fear bigger and bigger because I somehow kept finding myself in these situations. But then over time it mostly went away and now I'm able to be around dogs and not freak out but I still feel anxious when I'm outside and see people with bigger dogs that are running around and barking or trying to jump at people.
I have emetophobia too. I feel like no one talks about how it affects day to day life, and can easily spiral into eating disorders or other anxieties/phobias. Weird to find people with the same thing under a youtube video. I even went to CBT therapy for it, though it didn't help the avoidance behaviour
I congratulate my kids on good falls, falls are going to happen and you have to fall properly to limit injury
I have
Trypophobia;;
The description even of it freaks me out. Seeing bubbles, beehives, strawberries makes me react in a very visceral manner.
It's not a phobia, I don't think, but I also have a horrible fear of bugs and illness, and all of these are in the same vein of severity. ;;
Scared of heights and deep waters
Lol even just the word "spiders" triggers my phobia. When you talked about exposure therapy using vr and stuff I started feeling the panic. Spiders are cool tho... but they're so scary
I'm absolutely terrified of the terminator to extent that when they release a new movie I can't watch TV in the evening incase I see the trailer because it will make me cry and shake fear, I also will have nightmares for weeks if I manage to sleep at all.
This started in year 2000 when I was 6 and went to millennium dome with my family. My mum left me at table to get some food and while she was gone someone in a robot costume was being pushed in a wheelchair, they came over to me and robot jumped out the chair it made jump so high I flew over the table and broken arm. He wasn't in a terminator costume so I'm not sure why my brain has put on the him. I guess I'm lucky it's something I can avoid relatively easily but even if I see it on the TV guide it bring tears to my eyes and makes me feel sick, even typing this has caused a lump on my throat.
I'm also scared of swans/geese, clowns, roller coasters, moths, heights and spiders which has got better since I started giving them non threatening names.
5:18
what if caecilius isn't in the garden
Used to have arachnophobia as a kid, specifically towards daddy longlegs, or the Opiliones species of arachnids. I was fine with true spiders and thought they were cool looking, but harvestmen freaked me out. Ironic, considering they're physically incapable of biting humans, and are way more fragile than true spiders.
I've always had atychiphobia, or an intense fear of failure. A lot of my fears actually stemmed from this, and it would cause me to procrastinate or never even try to do things because I was afraid of being humiliated. There's another irony to go with this, which is that I also have achievemephobia, or fear of success, to the point where I've sabotaged myself whenever I've felt I had an undeserved success in life.
I developed hemophobia later in life. Getting blood drawn has caused the vasovagal response, where I've gotten very nauseated and blacked out afterwards. This has also happened when watching certain horror movies, like the brain scene from "Hannibal" which I know is supposed to be funny. Even though I know the gore is fake, I have to look away and go lie down to avoid blacking out. This is exceptionally ironic, since I used to get blood drawn routinely with no ill effect, I'm a huge fan of violent video games and the horror genre, and I have a history of SH which is not what you'd expect.
Baloons!
On the bit about a fear of mayo. My brother in law has a phobia of crisps and crisps packets
He's afraid of the sound of them and the smells sets him off too. I admit I ignore requests to not eat crisps around him
tbf lays potato chips smell HORRID
What do they smell like? I hate the smell of cheese and onion, smells like feet
I have Onuxophobia and it was very debilitating working in disability care as I couldn’t even trim nails without crying
What would be the phobia for possibly getting a phobia lol
Make an episode on sleep paralysis
We did! Two, actually :)
Fear of.very big things
In Sweden we do have a that service you want to have in UK, at least some degree... There are medical question line both on phone and online and also there some self-help guides/treatment för milder mental conditions (not all though). Unfortunately it is really difficult to get and acces help here with the condition/mental illness is at a several level..... I think both groups should get help, but our prioritizing here is a unlogical....
I have a phobia of birds.
I usually download episodes to watch while running. As you don't then get the view, how much is that in money to give in patreon?
❤️❤️❤️
Where is jamp
bees
I probably should stop using Sci Guys as therapy lol (not in a mean way )
Too many phobias Claustrophobia, agoraphobia, Brumotactillophobia, and Haphephobia
How can you be scared of moths?! This summer I found a poplar hawk moth with a broken wing so I adopted him, named him Hannibal and brought him back home with me (he is currently dead but we're trying to figure out how to set him in resin)