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Perfect Short Field Landings - Day 4 of The 31 Day Safer Pilot Challenge 2024
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- čas přidán 3. 01. 2024
- Welcome to Day 4 of the Safer Pilot Challenge 2024.
Today we look at short field operations and how to nail down the perfect
Short Field Landing.
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This guy can cheer me up on the worst days. Competence, enthusiasm, authenticity.
4 for 4!! See ya later alligator😂
Well played
4 for 4 in a while crocodile
The open mouth is part of temperature regulation (probably to warm up this time of year). Somewhat related...when I was first learning to land, on maybe my 3rd or 4th landing attempt ever, while on short final I spotted an F-15 eagle that had taxied up to the runway (KBAF). It was a "SQUIRREL" moment and I was totally distracted. It was a 'teaching moment' for me, while on takeoff or landing a bomb could go off but I need to focus on the task at hand.
We all have those "Squirrel" moments! But at least yours was an airplane not an Alligator hahaha
4 for 4! definitely haven't seen anyone else with an alligator. much more relatable because i'm training here in FL as well!
I like how Marco Island AWOS is nicely enuciated and clearly read out so that we can comprehend it. That was a big aligator, wow. 4 0f 4
4 of 4, of Your OUTSTANDING Video Series Sir 👌😇👍OUTSTANDING Short Field OPS 🧐👍👍Nice Gator 🤣👍👍Cheers 🍻🍻
4 for 4 Another great video! Thank you Jason ‘’ Pitch for Speed and Power for Altitude’’ Your ability to impart complex technical knowledge, making the learning process enjoyable and accessible. Your expertise and teaching style have been invaluable and I appreciate the effort you put into making aviation concepts easy to understand. Thank you for being an outstanding instructor.
4 for 4!! Thank you for the amazing videos. They helped me pass my private pilot checkride yesterday!!
Congratulations!
4 x 4 - another great one!
4 for 4. This series could not be timed better. I sit for my private written test next week and (hopefully) have my checkride at the end of the month. The information presented here is so helpful.
You're going to do amazing!!!
4 for 4
OK Jason, we're going to have
to take your word on hitting your spot since we were only seeing the panel, but no doubt you did 😊 great series I'm loving it.
By the way Marco does also get salt water crocks too.
See you tomorrow morning.
4 for 4 here! Alligators by the taxiway, there's something we don't see here in WI especially this time of year. I was starting to worry about you there Jason - takeoff is no time to get so distracted! I practice short TOL's a LOT, love doing them as much as I can. My old school CFI would always tell me "no skid marks, but I want some white paint from those runway stripes on the mains." He also told me to get on the brakes and retract those flaps as soon as I touched down.
Alligators wow!! Thanks Jason!! 4/4
4 for 4. I’m towards the end of my training getting ready for a check ride up here in Canada. 31 day challenge couldn’t have come at a better time
4 for 4. Love the gator, but more so your informative videos!
4 for 4. Another great video! Thank you for making these. I'm currently a student up in NH for sport pilot, flying RV-12's. My first 'short' field (to me) was a 3,000' runway in Concord NH. KPSM (Pease) is a huge runway over 11,000' x 150 so 3,000 seemed 'short to me 🤣
It was a bumpy day (in an RV-12) and I turned final getting a little tossed around.
I looked at my CFI and said "hmmm, I'm a bit high" (The rv's can catch a gust and climb 100-200 feet in a couple seconds).
He smiled and said "I know, so what are you going to do?"
me: "Go around and set up better ...I wasn't expecting that much lift in that gust"
His reply "Good call, a forward slip would be tricky in these conditions with your experience!" (or lack of experience 😉)
Around the pattern we went and I set up much better for a good touch-n-go.
All of your teaching still applies very well. Obviously the rv-12 is light (and quick) but all the information still applies -Know your aircraft's POH procedures and fly the airplane. Don't panic, fly the airplane.
4 for 4. Another great video… alligators, yikes. Always have to be aware of wildlife on the field. We have deer, bears, cougars, and elk at my small field on Vancouver Island. Thanks again Jason! 😊
“A good landing begins with flying a perfect pattern.”
This quote helped me a lot during my training… and still does today!
4/4 👍🏻🐊
Passed my PPL checkride today!! Thank you Jason and mzeroa for everything!! You have played a huge roll in my aviation journey. Much love to you all:)
4 4 4 - Always a jewel of insight in each teaching
4 for 4. Another great one. Thanks Jason
4 for 4! We have deer, turkeys, and turtles, but so far no alligators! 😂 I am enjoying watching these videos as a new private pilot. They are helping me stay motivated to go up and keep practicing!
4 for 4, Jason! Look forward to each one. Thank you for this amazing series.
4 for 4. Another Idaho must!! Short field and soft field, always practicing these.
4 for 4! Keep up the great work Jason!
Funny that a Florida boy would be excited to see an alligator! Ha! When we lived in southern Georgia, we used to have gators on the golf course. While we'd be waiting to tee off, sometimes we'd chip old golf balls at them and try to bounce them off their heads! My old instructor taught me a trick for short field take offs in my cherokee. Start the take off roll like you did, but you got enough airspeed, pop in a couple notches of flaps. The airplane would jump off the ground. 4 for 4 today. I'm caught up!
4/4. ✈️ Alligator is great but I amused myself every time you said Marco….with “Polo!”
Both little kids at heart
4-4 great job keeping your focus on the short field landing with an alligator watching you
4 for 4. I love the gator departure from Marco.
4 for 4 . I was just at Mky on Monday. Love that airport and area. Cheapest fuel around at $4.09 as of 1/1/24. Shhh keep it a secret!
4/4 - Our Flying Club Senior CFI likes to have everyone land at 2W2 during their club annual checkride (Yes, our club requires an annual ride, the BFR counts for this every other year). 1840x30 so definitely interesting in a 182!
I think that is a GREAT requirement
Caught up now; 4 for 4. I did once hurt my back on a “drop-in” short field landing. And alligators, wow! Once more, excellent content.
It’s been a cool minute since I’ve been able to watch a MzeroA video but every time I come back Jason is bringing the goods!
I had to go back and see the alligator! ha ha We have snow up here so it was nice to see the beautiful sunshine and get some good training! thanks
4 for 4. Short field landings are also REALLY fun on grass, gravel and dirt.
4 for 4! I'm not afraid to admit I've bounced it a couple times lol. Every time I go around the pattern I get a little bit better!
4for 4 , great job Jason. That gator has a great view for takeoffs and landings there !
Two things about the ACS short field takeoff technique that violate good energy management are wheel friction rolling on the surface rather than accelerating better level in low ground effect and the extreme lack of maneuverability at Vx. Crop dusters make spray strip and farmer's field short field takeoffs often but never use this technique. It just gives up too much free ground effect energy. Notice how the nose wheel is off almost immediately during the soft field technique and we are in low ground effect early as well. Using the elevator we can get the airplane into low ground effect well below Vso, an out of ground effect number. Once in low ground effect, if we use a little dynamic proactive elevator (or just don't set trim for Vy to begin with) and stay level in low ground effect, we will accelerate much more quickly than if rolling on the surface. Next, it is important to stay in low ground effect until near the obstruction as crop dusters do on every swath run. This gives us maximum acceleration time in low ground effect. Neither Vx nor Vy is ever appropriate on long runways and Vy is only appropriate when near the obstruction. Airspeed, not altitude, is life down low where altitude is only enough to kill us. Once we have achieved zoom reserve airspeed level in low ground effect, why throw it away on too little altitude to recover from inadvertent stall?
Two things about the ACS short field landing also violate good energy management. First we need to decelerate about a quarter mile out in the 172 enough to get a good sink going. When we add enough power to arrest this sink and stay on the glide angle that will clear the obstacle, we have brought the throttle into effectiveness and the best dynamic glide angle and rate of descent control. We still have too much airspeed, especially when we add the ten knots free relative wind from God, to quit flying in low ground effect (less than Vso, an out of ground effect number.) What Wolfgang noticed in Stick and Rudder can help us a lot. The spot will appear to speed up on very short final the same as it does coming into an intersection with our automobile. As with our auto, we don't use the ground speed or airspeed indicator to judge the further deceleration needed to land on the spot. We use the elevator (not gas pedal) to pitch to decelerate enough to keep the rate of closure with the numbers at what appears to be a brisk walk. This is what our rate of closure with any target appeared to be when further back, or while cruising. Now we will, as Wolfgang says on page 302, "arrive at ground level, you arrive in a three-point attitude, all slowed up and ready to squat." Dynamic throttle directs us to the exact spot (done will we will not have to close the throttle until touchdown) while elevator maintains the apparent brisk walk rate of closure with that spot all the way down. It works with any chosen glide angle. It is dynamic. We are better when we move. Move the throttle as necessary to control glide angle. Move the elevator as necessary to control airspeed. It is a power/pitch approach for extreme shortness and extreme accuracy.
"See ya later alligator!" 4 of 4 today, thanks for sharing S/F takeoff and landings, currently working on these so I'll be looking forward to incorporating some of these pointers as well!
4/4 - Definitely going to share this with my students as much for the distraction as anything else. Distractions WILL HAPPEN and it doesn't matter how many hours you have. So plan to deal with them.
4 for 4. Definitely going to practice this.
4 for 4. I'm enjoying these videos! Thank you.
4-4. Keep em coming Schap!
4 for 4, thanks for all refreshing videos always worth to see and reflect.
4 for 4! Don't forget the pirep for the alligator left side 17! LOL!
4 for 4! Love the way and positive style Jason teaches! Great video!👍🏼
4 for 4. Makes it look easy, and yet admits not perfect. I appreciate the "humanness" of less than perfect. Thank you.
Four-for-Four Jason. I’ve watched many flight training videos, but yours is the first to have an alligator in the left seat. Thanks for adding an additional smile 😊to my day! ~ Mark G.
Truly enjoy these; four for four.
4 for 4 that Alligator was cool😎 how did you plan that? Lol 😂
Take off next to an alligator. Welcome to Florida!! 4/4
PS: You should try your short field ops in Cedar Key. That's a good challenge.
One of my favorite airports! CDK
4 of 4 today -- This was something that was so hard to make stick until I had a new CFI work through "pitch for speed, power for altitude" with me- I was always fast and could not stick anything because I was always told to point the plane at the landing point and use power for speed-- which is great until you're fast. Inverting that during landings helped me better control speed which is critical for Short Fields -- and I now can land the plane very precisely.
Key understanding for safety, too. Imagine the case where you end up a little low *and* a little slow on final. You may have to pitch down and power up at the same time--pitch down for speed, power up to correct your glidepath to the landing spot. This is a natural extension of "pitch for speed, power for altitude." It doesn't really fit into the "point the plane at the landing spot and use power for speed" mindset. The pilot could end up in trouble.
I used to teach elementary school! Great “squirrel moment”!! Lol!🤣
hahha sometimes we never grow up!
4 4 4 ✈️ “Pitch for airspeed, power for altitude” exactly the reminder needed today! Safe flying!
4 of 4 baby!
4 for 4 - Thanks Jason!
Day 4 of 4. Just earned my PPL, so this is great as a daily refresher! Thanks for all you do!
4 for 4. Great video Jason and Ream!
4/4! Love this video, definitely one to look back on. I love how you explained that it’s also about clearing the obstacle and not just the aim point.
4 for 4....THANK YOU JASON!
#4 Short field landing ,hardest to master…good job!
Marco in winter or summer........gators! Nice short field work Jason, wish I was that smooth☺
4 for 4. Alligators...wow! On my first night flight I had to abort during my takeoff roll because a deer ran out in front off me!
"Don't send your instructor to the chiropractor, by any means...." 😀 -> Great video as usual!
4 for 4! ... this put a whole new meaning of "See you later, alligator, in a while, crocodile." Thanks for another great video!
Four for four! I learned to fly off a 2100 foot runway (Langley CYNJ) with displaced thresholds at each end. You learned precise speed control and ILS-accurate approaches from the start.
4/4/4 Great on!! This was where my training came to a stop. Short field landings-You make it look SO easy. I'm going back to finish my PPl for sure.
4 for 4… Great stuff…
4 for 4 today Jason. Loving these videos keepem comin
Jason, when you spotted the alligator, your eyes got so big (like, 'ahwooooguh!'). It got a chuckle out of me. Yes, I definitely saw that alligator with its mouth hanging open like a drawbridge! 😅
I'm a little kid at heart!
Got caught up……4 for 4!
Thanks so much Jason!
4 for 4. Love these.
4 for 4! Thanks Jason!
4 for 4. Thanks Jason.
4/4 These videos are teaching me something new with each and every one of them and I have been flying for 51 years. Thnaks Jason!!
4 for 4. As a CFI I have two comments for you:
1) I do not use the "pitch for airspeed, power for altitude" mantra...it's always both working together; sometimes one predominates perhaps but both are working together
2) on your short-field landing, what happened to your flaps up, braking piece of actually coming to a stop on that short field?
4 for 4. Instructor used to tell me: 3 things that are useless to a pilot; The runway behind you, the altitude above you and the fuel that's in the fuel truck.
4 for 4! I was out working on short field take offs and landings today!!
4 for 4! This is important to me as the runway that I will be using is short!
4 - 4 Keep em coming, Jason!
Four for four here. Love the Gator1 departure!
4 for 4. Love this years layout
4 of 4! And that freaking 'gator was right there! Jaws open and not happy that you were in his environment! I'm from Wisconsin and that's something I've NEVER seen!
4 for 4! Love that the alligator tried to be a part of the learning process!
4 of 4... No alligators 😮 in California, but I've had a coyote share the runway with me as I lifted off.
4 4 4, ready 4 more!
4 for 4!!Roger Alligator! Thanks Jason!
4 outta 4! I'll be practicing more of these very soon. Soft field also....got that checkride coming up 😊 another goodie as always!
4 for 4. Loving it!
4 for 4, thanks again for these videos
4 out of 4. Saint Barth is one of my goals for short field.
4 from 4… keep it going mate!
4 for 4! I had to avoid a frog while taxiing once 😂
4 for 4. Abdul here from Canada. 👍
4/4 Having my student follow along also!
4 for 4! Thank you!
4 for 4: The biggest gap in my experience as a pilot is with non-standard take-offs and landings. This month's SPC has certainly inspired me to get in the POH and start practicing those short and soft field T/O and landings.
Awesome 😎😎😎😎 thanks for the v6
Four of Four!!! Great video!
4 for 4. Another look into the basics
Nothing says Florida Pilot like "I'm going to land on the aligator". 4 for 4 but that made me laugh.
hahahha so true!