TOPWAR: How Matching with Chinese Servers Impacts US and RIVERGAME
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As a British player I am pretty disgusted with how we're being charged the most out of all players worldwide, there's no excuse for that. Given the terrible event matchmaking that sees my server and my previous one get roundly thumped by players with 10/15m less CP and the inexplicably expensive prices I think i'm at the end of my tether with this game. I am VIP 11, I think i'm just going to say a big F you to Rivergame and quit, the final straw! So if you're reading this Rivergame.. Up yours!
As I heard from someone of my servermates you already get more sparkling effects at new server. He started with some people a new account. Long time ago Bassel was a good hero and rare given wirh recruitment. At newer servers you got a lot from him and easily. Its Topwar developement tradition to let the older gamers stand in the rain.
So we play this game four or 5 years and they want us to start this gsme again, and to spend again at everything or what?
Just to be able for having any real competition with younger servers?
Give me my spended money back than. Topwar! Or shards and chips and boxes for everything I got.
Than I will open at a new server to get any fun in this game in future.
New servers will dominate us this way 🤬, without knowing how to play, just for having a new account, nice!!!
It’s such a shame how greedy they are and how unfair the pricing is. I remember complaining a while back when the increased the UK from £0.79 to £0.99 and £79.99 to £99.99…. the same value as the US but in a stronger currency. There was no need in raising our prices, but you also have to be careful complaining about paying more because TopWar would much rather increase everyone’s prices to make them fair than lower some to make them fair.
They sometimes blame Apple and Google store, but they have gold blocks we can buy through a website… only giving us 2% better value. 2% we can barely use, because we have to save it until it equals a pack. If they reduced the first 3 packs to lets say £0.50, £0.99 and £2.49 i would probably buy all 3 in spending events (i use to anyway) but now i’ve cut down and just buy 1-2, if that. This current event, i’m not buying any. They need to realise reducing prices could mean the average player spends more because he’s happier with his return and it also helps solidify the longevity of players more.
I honestly believe reducing prices would be even more profitable for them, over time.
We will advocate for that in our feedback to the devs . But tuning the prices down = increase the sales overtime
@@t-me8295
I reported the same issue to rivergame when they increased this price for UK players last year and I got the same generic response regarding google/Apple Store fees.
When comparing average wage of UK to US for example, the US is considerably higher when converted to same currency, they’ve adjusting packs to fit their own profits and as a result, they’re costing players out of the game based purely on geographical location !!!
I know there’s complaints about newer servers etc and the game being tailored to them, but it’s definitely difficult competing within servers amongst you with these reasons, and I know other countries will also have similar issues especially within Europe.
1000% in agreement TMe. Thank you
Thank you Michael
Thank you for great video. Loot quest brought excitement back to the game. And in-between other events. Talk about come-down once loot quest stopped.
River games need to rethink? We want conflict, war, battles, and nonstop loot quest please.
If they bring back the loot quest, am sure they will nerf the prizes.
I also agree being a player from the uk why are we paying more than everyone else? Also agree on the combat power as the Chinese servers are way stronger and younger this stuff needs to be addressed because a 50 CP guy shouldn’t be able to beat a 90 CP guy that has invested for years this is the type of nonsense that makes me want to quit. Keep up the good work Tme 👊🏽
Of course not buddy. My goals is to bring the latest news as possible. So you guys understand and see the truth
I think you’re right about why ppl might not b watching anymore. They’ve tuned out of the game. Every svs we had was ugly. We didn’t stand a chance. Vivid servers where our top guys couldn’t scratch their top five. Getting burned by low cp accounts w no suppressions. Rivergame has broken the game. Fkd up the balance entirely. Cause so much damage already. Most of our ppl have left the server this week because of the matchups hoping things will b different somewhere else. It’s simply bullshit.
An observation. purchasing capacity is also very different between countries. An example is here in Brazil, a skin represents the value of a Brazilian base salary.
A experiência para brasileiros é péssima. Jogo muito caro, eu fiz a conta uma.vez e para liberar a Villers, por exemplo, é mais de 1000 reais 😂😂
Thanks TMe yes this seems like a huge issue among topwar I'm having fun playing but I would imagine it is a burden as well 😢❤🎉
Can river game be sue if we build a community large enough 🤔 what’s the point on keep playing… much respect t-me constantly trying to help us out 👊 you’re the VMP bro of this journey
You can sue them in their country but you need a lawyer for that .
Far easier: sue them in your country …they lose = the game is forbidden in your country till they do the changes the justice department set
Even easier : write a very detailed letter (the better you explain, the more successful you are ) to the customer protection: EU, USA, etc …once they see it and understand it : they apply sanctions on them , till changes are made
I am 100% sure that no items in the game worth paying a 100$
I am almost f2p i only bought daiana pack and i couldn’t be more happy by my decision 😎
Didn't even pay for Diana and we got it once in return of heroes... her and black card are the only good purchases in this "game"
True there should not be such a spread in prices as you have wealthy and poor people in every country.
Regarding the march making its a must and I still don’t understand what is so difficult, a combination of the top cp and the average top 100 or something, they show it to us for the bets we have to make, so they know how to do it… it’s not rocket science
We were matched against 2216 and 770 this weekend in SVS. We have two players over 100m cp. Needless to say we didn’t fair so well🤦🏼♂️. It was good to see you on the field though.
Here in PH the minimum wage of a worker is 570 Peso for 9 hours of work, which is equivalent to 9.94 USD per day. Rice costs 60 Peso per kilo (1.05 USD), imagine other stuff like food, rent, transportation, electricity, water bill, internet etc. hehe just sharing 😂
we should demand compensation. Using Philippines as the base value, whatever that the other countries have overpaid by whatever amount, it goes into the in-game wallet to be offset in future purchases. Also, everyone should reconsider their spending in this game. The titan special effects have essentially made pre-titan spendings obsolete. Those currently spending on titan gears should think again, they have launched titanGear 1.0 to screw pre-titanGear spenders, it is possible that they will have another titanGear 2.0 to screw titanGear 1.0 spenders.
Absolutely, everything you spent till Titan gear is slightly weaker…here comes the bomb….in total.
Not only that , but generally..such a massive stats boost at once ain’t healthy for a game
I am 47 mil CP, I got burned by 31 mil CP player... what's going on with the game? Thanks Timmi boy for another great video 😊
I’m a 80 M + player and in the loot quest ..we had a guy with 60M CP attacking ..we were : me with 80M cp and the rest were : 70M cp + . We said , let him hit …he killed us all 😂😂
@t-me8295 how they could have broken the game this? It's just not conceivable for me...we have been patiently waiting for RG to fix existing issues, yet they have broken the game even more... 😢
TC, players from new servers with 30 CP and a single march full of special effects defeating people with 80 cp from old servers, if they are burned by having few troops, the repair cost in gems is lower.
that's just simply not true, im on a newer server, 37mil CP, 165 march size with a good amount of special effects and couldn't get though a base with just his 3 HT's.
@@tom-ou2xh I have screenshots to prove it.
@@Njord_w Then that 80 CP is all fluff or that 30 mil is a TON of high level decor with all those stats.
Ik people are doing some whacky shit atm like all ex7s, no suppression, stupid ton of decor and full runes, with crazy march size, But even they are struggling against our 60-70 mils.
A challenge system between servers with the team leader being able to cap the cp level of their opponents. In my experience the game is the most fun when evenly matched. Anything combat related where the average player can have some fun without a whale jumping in and dominating everyone on the map the entire event would be nice
In Mexico everything is much more expensive than in the USA, for example the 99 dollar packages in the USA in Mexico we have to pay the equivalent of 150 usd dollars, and it is the same for all the packages, everything is 50% more expensive which is ridiculous.
The packages are almost 100% more expensive in Mexico than in Japan, which is why the majority of players in Mexico are low spender or f2p
Hi t-me, you mentioned again in your video the different drop rates of special gear and effects. I was also in touch with support on this, and they insist that there is no difference.
I challenged them: release an anonymised data set that contains information for analysis. To ensure anonymity, I would recommend that CP is binned to 5M bins, and server numbers to bins of 50. They should provide the following values:
* Server bin
* player max. historic CP bin
* player current CP bin
* player VIP level
* amount of runes (installed or available)
* sum of all rune star levels (installed or available)
* (some more stats I don't recall)
In case they are lying, there will be a dependency between hero gear values and server number but not to VIP level. In case they speak the truth, dependency will be only on VIP level.
Easy, right? They said to "forward this to the team" - obviously to never come back. Maybe you want to use your visibility to push this idea?
Looking at the prices, the chinese prices for the gems (in the example) seems to be in the middle compared with the other countries. So im guessing it just crazy drop rates in the chinese servers that make the difference? Am i wrong?
As always spot on 👍 it's clear river game don't know how their own game works or they would clearly implement some of the simple changes you mention on all your videos, they are all over the place from animation Collabs to cooking events with horrendous drop rates, all just to keep on money grabbing instead of actually making the game better and steer in on course as a war game for which the reason we all started playing in the first place fooled by false advertising, finally get a good event with loot quest and they take it away, RIVER GAME SORT THIS MEES OUT! t-me as always thanks for the info and your channel
Thats rison loots player's ill be gone and not playing enymore if Rivergame Don't change anything about this. And secondly the All Chinese are more power they were are in Europe. Thx for video You are the best Respekt for You 👏👏🎊🎊💪🥰
Thank you t-me u said it all, it's not fair to Play against people stronger than us due to (1) better Drop rates (2) 30% cheaper packs... At the same time we spent the same amount of $$$ 😢😢
Absolutely true. They are working in this as it’s hurting them also
Du mal ? Vu l'argent que ca génère 🤔🤭
true to that 8:45. thing is when the battle comes(SvS, TC ....) everyone just run away. we are server with 3 alliances with 160+ players in them and lets say 60% are very active, but when TC comes team B is half full. and these are TC and SvS which are connected with Warzone ranked matches. idk mybe its the weekends ppl dont have time, mybe my server is this way....but oh boy they love to spend hours in front of the screen on cooking and some other sht....soo
We was played against 3 vivid servers Chen and company was just other level. Only Anco and Ali was having chance against him and burn
Bring back Loot Quest, i loved it so much ... 😥😥
They must know what’d happen matchmaking us to vivid servers,
Putting thought to it would make me wonder if they’re trying to downsize their servers to save money.
That’s just presuming that they’re ran on different servers from one another.
You know Rivergame only knows how to hear sounds. They can't comprehend listening and taking progressive action.
I know there are many small players like me that need to go along with other players. Im not doing more and more top ups like others because here in PH thats price is so much expensive for us.
yes me .. burning by 45m .. that have 280 march size .. wander how come it's so strong .. really annoyed my . Thx for vid t-me
T-me i admire your constant attempts to try to fix this game but i think that person/persons that calls the shots are in different universe. Probably relying on someone that they trust but these persons have no understanding or give a damn about the game. Monthly money counter can only lead to disaster.
man..i see many lower CPs taking down older higher CPs. absolutely does not make sense ..
In Canada, are $100 dollars packs are $139.00
139$ than after tax depend where you are goes up to 160$
We're getting heavily fcked on our end
Loot quest is awesome. The excuse they gave me on WhatsApp why they are not doing it regularly is laughable.
Reducing the prices for the global TW version will solve this issue 😅(i hope they do that 😁)…idk why i have a strong feeling that they will decrease the reward values for loot quest event when they bring it back
We will gone see 😉. I’m keeping an eye on this
I match the prices in my currency and the Chinese currency and there's a big difference basically the cost if using the Chinese currency its wayy cheaper compared to my currency (ZAR)
The currency in the Chinese is about 50%-60% cheaper
And it does affect alot since for TC and SvS and EL we have alot of jap and chinese and etc player
It also affects since making purchases almost every day
@Z30519 absolutely. It’s a huge difference
Can we just put ppl over 100 mil in their own events? Like everyone else plays sVs and they play TC in random teams for gold chest?
Thank you Timmy, I was wondering why Japanese servers are always stronger
I always knew other countries were paying less 😒
Para certos paises, como o Brasil, nao compensa gastar no jogo (tudo cerca de 5x mais caro), melhor ir jogando com o que os eventos entregam
Yes Leo, I can only imagine. Stick with the items you get in game for free and let’s hope for the loot quest and other events like this to come asap . I will advocate for that to the developers
We just faced 3 Asian servers. Was not much fun. Even Ali and ancor were struggling. Not a fair match up at all.
It’s not …especially when they are paying up to 40% less than us (you ) .
Tell Simba I said hi t-me there
Brasil e tudo caro, muito difícil acompanhar os jogadores do exterior.
Não compensa gastar kkkk tô no modo f2p kkkk (gastei mesmo pra liberar os benefícios permanentes e pronto)
So whats the answer
So in conclusion, us Brit’s are getting fucked over the worse. Nice 🤣
Got a Mr K letter from a bad result in over clocking yesterday. 1st one.
Yea. You can see the price difference
Us Singaporeans a strong 2nd 😂
What’s a Mr K letter? I’ve advanced overclocked 4 times, with average results… as a junior VIP9 it takes an age to save up 16 gold HT chips each time.
Compensation letter
I will make a video to explain it even better , Andrew .
You also need to keep in mind what purchasing power difference there is per country. if you made everything USD then the US and Europe will reign supreme. i live in South Africa the value of a dollar here compared to the US is massively different in everyday life and we dont get the discounted price like the asian countries do. Why do you think you hardly or even ever see any African whales? At the other End the british are shafted as they shouldnt have to pay a penny more than the EU or US. There is no real fair way to address this from the developers side other than matchup based on CP. Use a VPN and buy the gold blocks if you arent happy with the price is all i can advise. In my opinion they could slash prices by 66% and they would still generate a big revenue while leveling the playing field as more people would buy things and keep engaged.. whether a whale is 60 mil or 100 mil due to this makes no difference im dead either way.
I am now level 98. I not spend single amount this game
The selection is better than before, but still bad. I would sort from the personal statistics of the TOP 5-10 players of the group or server (the number of units in the march, the damage indicator). Combat power absolutely does not show the strength of the player
The foodie event is the absolute worst event I’ve seen since i started playing.
Canadians didn't even make the lists. That's bad right?
Why can't base skins of a certain age become more achievable for FTP or budgeted players.
Many legacy heros difficult to collect that could be easy for new players when collecting shards.
Amelia is hundreds of pounds which is crazy but more beneficial for a new/ budgeted player than for a whale.
This week we had a TC battle with 37m cp with 260+ march size and +350 dgm + and it was japanese and chinese server 😡
Absolutely crazy . I have spent far more than 2x vip 16 in order to have that …in the past
Same, I'm a MM with 53m if all comps and equips active. Tried to attack a 40m player and did about 5% damage.
If they want to base their matchmaking on the combat power, they better make sure it is accurate.
They need to remove all of the cp that comes from tech upgrades that do not impact the outcome of the battle.
I’m confused now,our players keep referring to these servers as Japanese “vivid” servers. Which is it,Chinese or Japanese? But regardless,we are still be soundly beaten by them on a weekly basis. It’s really frustrating
Due to player bleeding…the started this mixing. This is not the solution
What is player bleeding?
@@Sweetie_abundant_heart Players stop playing the game
Players leaving the game
@@thomasbodrum-il6wr thanks. I see it. They probably feel like they can't compete with those who spend money or they've maxed out credit cards. Or they have alliance issues. I personally don't see this issue changing. The company wants money and alliances can be clickish.
We pay much more in Canada
I left the game
CP issues...
Heavy Trooper Chips are much too high
Hero Perks are exceptionally high
Gathering Skills and Perks add *anything* to *Combat* Power
Titan Runes are way too low
Exclusive Skills should be significantly higher than regular Skills
I have been in very balanced SVS matches for many, many weeks... mostly because they've been older servers against my older server.
However, in my last Titan Canyon, my backup heroes included Tywin and Ganso, despite their *Combat* Power is nearly entirely based on Gathering Skills and Perks. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
That was a painful Base hit. 🤣
Simple solution is stop spending in this stupid. Game and start investing in stock market
And I thought JPY is the cheapest. Seems like I need to change something 😏😂
True 😂
Tôi ước gì bạn có thể dịch nó sang tiếng Ả Rập trong khi bạn nói
100$ in game = 120$ in Saudi Arabia
TopWar ❎
TopSpend ✅
Not entirely correct, Layla . RG lacks qualified employees with marketing experience 😂
🤭🤭 or maybe TopChef ? Yeah they need to improve many things
game if not overhauled - "not tweaked" but overhauled, is going to die. it's been years they cannot fix a match making forget fixing new events. People took of HT chips and Titan to lower CP and get placed with weaker players. All they need is "historic CP" but nah they will do silly stuff. TMe - Diversify, and make content on a few more games.
Your next video shut b how to use the Vpn so we can get cheaper packages 🎉
Doesn’t work✌️
It needs that country’s credit card
為替レートでアイテムの価値を比較して論じるのは逆に公平でないよ。各国の平均所得に合わせないと一時的な為替レートの情勢に流されて、各国で現実的でない価格設定が生じてしまうことになる。各国のプレイヤーの公平を図るのなら、自国通貨以外での決済を禁じた上で、各国の平均所得に比例させるのが実質的な公平になる。
so Mexico people are earning a lot of money 😂😂😂 I am sure Japanese people get same than European countries, USA people often work in three jobs. So this doesn't fit to that what you get out from your jobs. Otherwise Mexico would be cheep.
Exacto, en México los paquetes son bastante más caros que cualquiera de los países de la lista en el video de T-me y el poder adquisitivo de los mexicanos es igual o menor que los países de la lista así que no tiene sentido los que dice el amigo japonés@@xiaomi2948
my friend u in 2216 your leaders are chines 😂😂
why are you comparing the currency???
Because in the UK we pay 100 GBP for a pack and it is cheaper in every single other country by up to 40 percent, it's disgusting.
The currency and cost portion of this episode is by far the worst take you’ve ever had. Germany’s per capital income is around 48,000 dollars vs the Philippines at 3,500. This means to your average Philippino the cost of a pack is far more expensive than for a German. You can’t build a channel on stats and numbers and ignore that. I don’t see any developing economy servers dominating either. So please focus on things like calling for loot quest back. I agree with that. Sorry to be harsh. I generally love your channel.
I disagree, why is it 20 percent more expensive in UK than US and EU? Is our per capita income 20 percent higher? No...
Lonnie . That’s true. But :
1. we “compete “ with the same items on the same battlefield
2. A lot of players using vpn services
@@slightlyroc1866 When it comes to wealthy countries I agree the calculations are probably off. But I don't think we complain when vacationing in developing countries for cheap so why would we begrudge them being allowed to get a price that's more fair to their income level.
@@t-me8295 1. Yes. We absolutely do but I don't think the problems with top war have to do with localized pricing. It's the constant addition of pay to play features that favor big spenders over F2P players.
2. I live in South Korea and can only access the Korean store prices when I play on a pc and only the Canada prices when I use my Canadian apple ID and credit card. So if there are people who are smart enough to figure out how to spend less when RG is constantly trying to screw us with more equipment to incentivize spenders to spend I congratulate them on being able to outsmart RG or at least spend less.