I'm Disappointed in Future Motion (OneWheel GT)

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
  • Future Motion started shipping the OneWheel GT about a month ago. And people are not happy. I'm not happy.
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    0:00 Intro
    1:02 DOA's & Ghosting
    2:37 What's a BMS?
    4:32 The BMS Trap
    6:27 International Shipping
    8:10 Sustainability & Right to Repair
    9:17 End
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    (2) / 69_mile_gt_review
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    (4) • One wheel GT GHOST int...
    (5) / doesnt_necessarily_exp...
    (6) / seems_that_you_shouldn...
    (7) chibatterysystems.com/product...
    (8) jwbatteries.com/products/jwxr...
    (9) frame.work/products/laptop-di...
    (10) shop.fairphone.com/en/
    (11) www.apple.com/nz/newsroom/202...
    (12) • A talk with Mario's Bo...
    (13) • Why the company behind...
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Komentáře • 380

  • @magic_steve
    @magic_steve Před 2 lety +141

    The more voices that contribute to this issue, the more likely it becomes that Future Motion might change their business practice. Thanks for adding ur two cents to this.

    • @surenot6423
      @surenot6423 Před 2 lety +2

      Or go out of business.

    • @nullx8
      @nullx8 Před 2 lety +7

      they won't change shit, the only thing that can change this is competition. and this will likely put them out of business. ad will take all the GT's with them as they can;t be repaired by anyone else.

    • @JJ-rc2lc
      @JJ-rc2lc Před 2 lety +2

      @@surenot6423 if they change the community gonna change, they Will never outofbusniess if they give costumer ability to do what ever with product they do.

    • @magic_steve
      @magic_steve Před 2 lety

      I used to have 4. I sold the boards that had pairing and kept my 4209 and v1.

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hi, I'm from one year in the future and....ahem, Future Motion has only gotten worse and more entrenched in their ideology. They are extremely afraid of losing their economic crutch.

  • @helloroman
    @helloroman Před 2 lety +68

    FM policy gets even more interesting in Europe. My Pint had an engine malfunction (tiny metal parts were scratching the surface of copper scrolls of the engine) and it needed to be replaced. However, sending it back to USA would be almost as expensive as the new board - so I needed to find another broken Pint but with a good engine to replace it. For a company that sells such a premium product its warranty policy is a joke. Why can't they deliver spare parts to Europe? 🙈 The worst thing is that the board itself is freaking amazing.

    • @xvaldez3284
      @xvaldez3284 Před 2 lety +8

      You basically void your warranty as soon as you open the box

    • @Fromatic
      @Fromatic Před 2 lety +4

      @@xvaldez3284 but does voiding your warranty matter when the person you responded to said postage to send it all the way back to the US for repair costs almost as much as just buying a new one?

    • @TheWalkingSmartie
      @TheWalkingSmartie Před 2 lety

      Exactly my thoughts, I want this thing so much and I am buying it this year, but the right to repair "crap" gets me worried in advance. I am from Czechia and the fact that (in Europe) there aren't any official or unofficial but certified/authorized resellers with right to repair just sucks. Not only would the shipping to CA, repair and insurance cost be almost as high as a new board, but it would also mean you would have to wait for more than 2 months (assuming you can't ship it safely via air mail due to battery risks). I mean, cmon what is that much of an issue having some repair training and certification. We all get the liability of installing other than official parts, but it would be nice to get the board properly serviced without ruining your wallet if you run into any issue that can't be fixed by basic everyday user.

    • @helloroman
      @helloroman Před 2 lety +4

      @@TheWalkingSmartie It would take definitely more than 2 months. I know one guy who sent the board back to CA from Poland and he waited over 10 months. This is nuts.

    • @TheWalkingSmartie
      @TheWalkingSmartie Před 2 lety +1

      @@helloroman Oh hell, wow, that is just a pure nonsense. You've paid for a product not a potential to use it "one day". That is really sick. 🤕🤦‍♂

  • @TheBoardGarage
    @TheBoardGarage Před 2 lety +135

    Very interesting video, well made. Small point though: all of the parts of a current generation Onewheel are made overseas, and they're simply assembled in California. The era of the Onewheel being made in California is over.
    Cheers sir. 👍

    • @dalemartin6063
      @dalemartin6063 Před 2 lety +4

      I’m sure if it’s “over” it might be for GT but maybe this supply chain issue might have FM rethinking sourcing all parts overseas. Then go back to tooling in-house so they have less of these issues folks are complaining about.

    • @MatthewEaton
      @MatthewEaton Před 2 lety +9

      @@dalemartin6063 As a former employee of FM, they never would even reconsider that option. They are married to the contracts and make it work, no matter how long the wait.

    • @dalemartin6063
      @dalemartin6063 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MatthewEaton Thanks for the insight. I think the best option they could do for folks who want there board fixed and not pay a arm and a leg for it is a Extended Warranty for folks.

    • @MatthewEaton
      @MatthewEaton Před 2 lety +4

      @@dalemartin6063 I wish that were the attitude of the people while I was there. Extended warranty is considered a slippery slope, much like comping shipping or parts. If they do it for you, then they do it for everyone and that will cause the heat death of the universe (a little hyperbole at the end).

    • @dalemartin6063
      @dalemartin6063 Před 2 lety

      @@MatthewEaton I would think if you make it a premium service people will pay for the protection, but what do I know. 40 point check. Your foot pads cleaned off. Etc. Then overtime I can use that warranty at any FM certified shop.

  • @bucketsoteeth646
    @bucketsoteeth646 Před 2 lety +45

    Thank you for calling FM out. They've been increasing the hostility of their design slowly for years, but the GT shows their hand so blatantly.
    Great editing too.

  • @CollinJarman
    @CollinJarman Před 2 lety +34

    Thank you for adding your voice to this. It's killing me that FM has yet to respond to the complaints around this.

    • @CollinJarman
      @CollinJarman Před 2 lety

      @@erikagrey1384 Maybe. I've been through enough "pissed-off consumer" cycles to know that a lot of the time, it's a small, dedicated fanbase who care about things like this. Which is why it's important for every OW content creator to amplify the signal!

    • @mrbmp09
      @mrbmp09 Před 2 lety

      They responded with a bullshit "safety" issue excuse. And the apple support he mentioned actually does not exist, just a PR stunt.

  • @alolanstarboy
    @alolanstarboy Před 2 lety +29

    I knew you wanted to diversify and not just make Ratchet and Clank related videos but a well produced video about anti consumer/anti repair practices wasn’t something I was expecting either lol

    • @shadstewart9253
      @shadstewart9253 Před 2 lety

      its a bigger niche keep at it.

    • @alolanstarboy
      @alolanstarboy Před 2 lety +1

      @@shadstewart9253 I wouldn’t say talking about right to repair or anti consumer stuff is as big of a genre on CZcams as gaming but the variety is appreciated and anyone that talks about it can only add to the whole so it’s a net positive

    • @shadstewart9253
      @shadstewart9253 Před 2 lety +1

      @@alolanstarboy ratchet and clank is one game if it were a whole spectrum of gaming like talking about 23 being cancel or current news rumors etc. thats a broad apeal R&C by themselves are less popular at least as topic than onewheel/fute motion and right to repair. apple fans are also drawn to this content just because of right to repair.

  • @sdmods619
    @sdmods619 Před 2 lety +10

    I ordered from local shop and it's arriving in May but I may cancel my pre-order. I'm not spending $2300 on a locked down system that I can't replace the battery for and would have a hard time finding replacement tires because of the non standard rim size

  • @adamatchison3919
    @adamatchison3919 Před 2 lety +5

    the steaks are high here. fuck future motion

  • @robbydomino
    @robbydomino Před 2 lety +7

    The transition and creativity at 4:24 with the R&C background music was greatly appreciated.

  • @Seth_M-T
    @Seth_M-T Před 2 lety +17

    6:27-8:10 Hold up... This shot lasted one minute and 43 seconds, and you somehow managed to do it in a public street, whilst simultaneously driving your Onewheel, pointing the camera at yourself, AND memorising your lines! That is seriously impressive. *slow clap*

    • @TheEPICskwock
      @TheEPICskwock Před 2 lety +1

      Riding a onewheel actually becomes incredibly easy once you get used to it. I could send a text message while riding a onewheel, and have before. (I was on a bike trail not the busy street). At first it is very hard and you feel very wobbly, but eventually your body and mind adapts and you don't even have to think about balancing, it comes as naturally as breathing. its actually even easier to ride then a skateboard by quite a lot because you could go over a rock the size of a fist and still not fall off the board, yet even small pebbles can send you flying off a skateboard.

    • @Tactical_Taco
      @Tactical_Taco Před 2 lety

      @@TheEPICskwock best explanation

  • @ponakka
    @ponakka Před 2 lety +14

    Bravo! This is exactly how i feel. FM is a bastard company that needs this kind of attention for stuff they pull. Shipping costs are really high in Europe too, and to add the fedex problems. I know a person who tried to ship board to FM several times, but shipping companies denied to take it in because of used lithium batteries.

  • @wizrom3046
    @wizrom3046 Před 2 lety +3

    100% agreed!
    FM have crossed the line with the tamper bricking in the GT.
    They wont get another dollar from me, i'll get behind the DIY onewheel community.
    They have a mad king steering the ship, time for a new CEO, or better still a good competitor that just wipes FM out.

    • @MrDmadness
      @MrDmadness Před 2 lety +2

      Vesc.. its amazing and easy now, ive yet to vesc my own board but have ridden a vesc one wheel.. very very close

  • @Mountain_Man
    @Mountain_Man Před 2 lety +4

    I tried calling future motion, got the “your wait time is 3 min” then proceeded to wait on hold for 45 min just to get a message saying “ no customer service reps are available at this time” and the call was dropped. Also have reached out numerous times through email and only gotten rude responses when they did respond but the normal is no response.

  • @kwaaaa
    @kwaaaa Před 2 lety +4

    The only thing worse than planned obsolescence is malicious obsolescence. You can design a product to have a finite life and leave it up to the end user to fix to their own abilities. To purposely and actively sabotage any chance that an end user can possibly repair their product they own is quite frankly beyond greedy.

  • @vietnguyen2354
    @vietnguyen2354 Před 2 lety +7

    I'm glad you made this video. I think this encourages other creators to make videos about R2R, even if it's not the usual content they make. Keep up the great work!

  • @AdamChodaba
    @AdamChodaba Před 2 lety +12

    I submitted my return (before it was shipped out) the board ship date kept getting pushed back, but the accessories were shipped already. I listed right to repair as the major reason for the return and listed each anti consumer practice. I do not have any confidence in the GT lasting long past warranty expiration.

    • @makatron
      @makatron Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah you're pretty much on your own of something happens.

    • @camo1276
      @camo1276 Před 2 lety

      I did the same. Hopefully you got your return label for the accessories just as I did.

    • @MrDmadness
      @MrDmadness Před 2 lety +2

      I canceled my order after a buddy who was new to ow, had his ghost.. now he's not interested in riding ow... way to go fm.. I still have my xr

  • @agyas23
    @agyas23 Před 2 lety

    what about the pint x? gonna buy one in a few weeks and i live in europe. can i change the battery after a few years?

  • @MutaleMulenga8ight
    @MutaleMulenga8ight Před 2 lety +6

    If you want the honest truth, FUTURE MOTION WILL. NOT. DO. ANYTHING. ABOUT. THIS. ISSUE. The only solution is to boycott their products OUTRIGHT, and move on to the next one

  • @EugeneMaynard
    @EugeneMaynard Před 2 lety +1

    I live in Sweden and own a totally tricked out Pint. I pre-ordered the GT within the first hour of the announcement with an original estimated date of January 18th. I was so excited for the upgrade until all these 1st batch problems started surfacing but when information of the proprietary hubs, axles, tires and finally that bms lockout were discovered, I soon became very anxious! The final straw came when I watched Luis Rossman’s long video with Josh! I was so disgusted that I, with a sad heart, cancelled my GT order earlier this week despite knowing It would be too late to return the accessories I had received a month ago. To FM’s credit, there was no fuss and they credited my account within two days! I also told them that It was just not feasible for me to send back a board for a simple thing like a tyre change and if they opened up a service center in Europe I would reconsider a possible GT purchase in the future, they understood and replied that they are in the final stages of setting up a European service Center and they would keep me posted! If they do not change their ways I think FM are doomed, the GT launch might cost them dearly, the people have spoken and now they are starting to put their money where their mouths are which is no longer going into FM’s bank account!

  • @dobrzpe
    @dobrzpe Před 2 lety +1

    holy crap, dude!! *YOUR VIDEO WAS SO WELL DONE!* how do you not have hundreds of thousands of subscribers?? your editing, cutting, framing, scene transitions (AND the point of your video) were absolutely stellar!
    bravo, my kiwi friend, BRAVO!

  • @paulallen-01
    @paulallen-01 Před 2 lety

    So is this BMS issue only on the GT? Can you still replace batteries on other models they sell?

  • @joshuagrahambrown
    @joshuagrahambrown Před 2 lety +3

    Wow, CZcams hadn’t notified me that you’d uploaded ANYTHING since Rift Apart until right now, I thought you’d dropped off the face of the Earth. I’m glad to see that’s not the case, and that I now have a few videos to watch!
    Also the board continuing to move when you get off? That’s like something that belongs in Black Mirror 😂

  • @360vroomers
    @360vroomers Před 2 lety +2

    If you want GT speed and range at lower price and none of the BMS bs, consider EUCs ☺️ (I ride both Onewheel and EUC)

  • @kumaSOevl
    @kumaSOevl Před 2 lety

    is it better to find an older model? if so, what is recommended? ive always wanted a Onewheel but i do not want these problems

  • @yaboifrostyyy871
    @yaboifrostyyy871 Před 2 lety

    My pint was acting up, shutting off from things that shouldn’t shut it off. So I sent it to them for repair. They told me it was fine and sent it back and the next week I was inches away from getting hit by a 45 mph car because it nose dived on a small bump

  • @Destide
    @Destide Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks community we'll be taking this ladder with us- FM

  • @Peter_Vidgeon
    @Peter_Vidgeon Před 2 lety

    I agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm in the UK. FM warranty policy states that it is dangerous to modify the battery controls etc. but no one is suggesting that. Swapping out an old or u/s battery is not a modification and to suggest that it is dangerous is tantamount to admitting their product has been poorly thought out. Unfortunately, unless legislation is introduced to ensure the right to repair for all customers who own a product, things will get worse. Granted, not all owners will want to repair their product, but it should be sacrosanct to be able to have the choice, That is what should be fought for in legislation throughout the world.

  • @Bordpie
    @Bordpie Před 2 lety +4

    My older brother fell off one of these without a helmet and cracked his skull requiring surgery to drain excess fluid around his brain and racked up $10,000s in medical bills (mostly covered by his company anyway). Also this happened at the start of 2020 when the pandemic kicked off. I think it was some sort of glitch when coming to a stop or riding up a kerb or something. No idea if it was modified or not.
    Small electric vehicles are sort of in a grey area still even though they've been around for some time now. I get the hesitance for fear of bad press, I probably won't ride one of these things after my brothers accident which was well before the current controversy (no pun intended). Locking down the whole system won't stop accidents so being overly paranoid about it won't stop bad press, in fact as we can see it's making it worse. It's just common sense that accidents due to third party modifications are not Future Motion's (or any companys) fault.
    Acceptance of small electric vehicles has to come from society as a whole which sadly has been painfully slow due to our current risk averse, unreasonable liability victim blaming culture (with a good dose of clickbait emotive media spin stories) which is trying to keep us safe by not letting us do anything new at all.

    • @itsjaynguyen
      @itsjaynguyen Před 2 lety +4

      he should of been wearing a helmet. he gots to own that. this isn't victim blaming, this is extreme ownership.

    • @VersionGamma
      @VersionGamma  Před 2 lety +3

      Damn, I’m sorry to hear that. I don’t really have much else to add to this comment, other than I totally agree, although I think that how much these things are societally accepted fluctuates greatly depending on where you live. Not even just country to country, but even to the level of city by city (or state by state in the US)

    • @armandosuba3427
      @armandosuba3427 Před 2 lety +3

      Wearing safety gear is a must. Falling off is going to happen without any issues with board
      At the very least a helmet

    • @Bordpie
      @Bordpie Před 2 lety +2

      @@itsjaynguyen Yep he should have been, although most people seem not to bother, just a cautionary tale. He's doing fine now it was just a bit dodgy at the time.
      I don't have one of these small vehicles yet partly because of the laws in the UK. I do usually wear a helmet although that's on my enduro mtb so that's sort of a different situation (although landing on dirt is generally better than the pavement so I always wear a helmet anyway). I think modern enduro helmets are actually kinda stylish.

    • @deanaoxo
      @deanaoxo Před 2 lety +2

      Sadly I fell into the hole of no helmet in the beginning. After hitting my head three times, I don’t ride without one now. That was over a year ago and let me tell you my helmet is banged up. Safety gear is a must. Super sorry to hear about this.

  • @Alex-re3qm
    @Alex-re3qm Před 2 lety +1

    amazing that despite thinking I knew about nearly every worth while gaming youtuber I find another one on a totally random video while looking at onewheels

  • @Tater4200
    @Tater4200 Před rokem

    hrm.. i wonder if there is a way. to probe power into the pluggin. that way when you unplug the battery it doesn't wipe the memory? then you can plug your new battery back in

  • @duncancarr7822
    @duncancarr7822 Před 2 lety

    So how would you change the GT tire without disconnecting the battery?

    • @VersionGamma
      @VersionGamma  Před 2 lety +2

      The battery connects to the BMS which connects to the controller. If you disconnect the controller from the BMS, you haven't disconnected the battery from the BMS, so it'll be fine. The back part of the board is the battery and BMS, and the front part is the controller, so you only need to disconnect the controller to do a tire change. So (assuming third party tires are available, which they should be at some point) we can at least do tire changes, even if FM doesn't want us to.

  • @himitsumonban
    @himitsumonban Před 2 lety +2

    I loved the subtle vfx at 3:52!

  • @monyx1101
    @monyx1101 Před 2 lety +1

    Potential Oz GT buyer, was waiting for local release but dwelling on the return-to-FM for ANYTHING service related incl tyre changes I'm out. Bought a moddable 4209 XR instead with low kms that with battery,motor and VESC developments should be able keep going 10yrs+

  • @som3oneMw
    @som3oneMw Před 2 lety

    thank you for covering this! i'm hoping getting people talking about it outside of the typical OW communities really helps

  • @Trailfloater
    @Trailfloater Před 2 lety

    Totally right like I got to send my pint back bc the Bluetooth device is messed up dealing 80 bucks to send it out then whatever it’s gonna cost to get the Bluetooth device smfh

  • @Funcentric
    @Funcentric Před rokem

    I know a thing or two about batteries and cells and balancing, but you explained it amazingly well. Thumbs up for the clarity and humility. Good stuff. Keep it up.

  • @Joe_Blo
    @Joe_Blo Před rokem

    The World's Fastest Indian had to forge his own pistons when his motor 'bricked'. But at least he was able to work around the problem. Not so with a bricked controller. Unless someone hacks it.
    Chevy diesel trucks go into a limp to dealer mode with only 100 miles range at reduced speed before being bricked (requiring a tow) for a variety of reasons, including 'deteriorated' DEF fluid. It costs $1200 just for the dealer to reset the computer, and the cost of repairs escalate quickly from there. Imagine being in B.F. Alaska in the dead of winter when this occurs.
    So OneWheel isn't the only company with expensive and hostile policies.

  • @Sajmonpl777
    @Sajmonpl777 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. Straight to the point! Well filmed and informative too. That's infuriating how community was pushed to the limit with low service quality and an absolutely absurd policies. Even more dissapointing is FM attitude...

  • @slutmonke
    @slutmonke Před 2 lety +3

    I feel the same way. I have an older XR which still runs great for now, but I can't imagine ever buying a GT until all these issues--especially the anti-repair nonsense--is resolved.

  • @johnthompson8190
    @johnthompson8190 Před 6 měsíci

    I guess I was one of the lucky ones... Not only did I receive my OW GT the next day after ordering, but I never had an issue until the day my Battery suddenly cut out on me and nosedived at 21.6mph.
    Shattered my left femur. I wasn't wearing any body protective gear, so it's my own fault I got so banged up that I had to be Life-flighted to the Trauma Center in Roseville CA.
    Not wearing a helmet proved to be a bad idea also.
    I'll definitely watch my OW's battery power level next time I ride... soon as I heal up a little better. BTW, I turned 72 yrs old last November and I still love my GT.... just not gonna overestimate my abilities nor that of my GT battery.

  • @RiftRipper
    @RiftRipper Před 2 lety

    Gotta say, of all the places I was expecting to ever use what I learned from physics E&M, it wasn't this channel. Boarding is far outside my area of expertise or interest, but I was able to get the gist of the issue from this video. Hope things turn out well for you and others who are having these problems.

  • @Funcentric
    @Funcentric Před rokem

    Thumbs up for you caring more about sharing this honesty than for monetizing this video.

  • @mattwhoanderson9725
    @mattwhoanderson9725 Před 2 lety +1

    I think you just leveled up bro. Well done

  • @hunteruhuruazrael
    @hunteruhuruazrael Před 2 lety +4

    Get an XR, mod the shit out of it, if they never fix these issues with the GT, don't buy it, I made that mistake, already done and dad is excited about it so I'm giving it a chance, but to those who haven't already gotten it, I recommend the XR over the GT to not deal with bullshit and still be able to tailor your own damn experience, I have, I feel it's better than the GT, from personal experience testing other people's boards, if you scratch out the things that need to be fixed, it's fun, it's a different experience, but I'm so much more comfortable and more suited for the XR I modded to tailor it to my riding style, abilities, and body size, than the GT probably ever will be without giving me to use my own fucking property how I want to. It is legally mine, they can't say shit, and they do it anyways, I hope FM doesn't come crashing down because I still want to be able to have my onewheel in the future, but they're literally kicking every possible supports on their company as fast as they can and they'll bring it down themselves. You're 100% right, they're full of shit.
    -
    Edit: fuck GT, canceled it straight up. Even more importantly, fuck Kyle

    • @nullx8
      @nullx8 Před 2 lety

      yep thaty is what i did, and when FM goes out of business, i could not care less ... if you have a GT and they kil lthemselfs you simply fuckeed.

  • @Jazz_Grenade
    @Jazz_Grenade Před 2 lety

    Can't you just connect an external power supply in parallel before you start the battery swap? Looks like you could just tap into the back of the connector so you'd never lose power during the swap.

  • @flowsolo
    @flowsolo Před 2 lety +4

    As much as I wanted to try out the GT I actually talked my cousin out of buying it because it would have been his first wheel experience and I feel DOA or ghosting would have ruined it for him. Also lack of customization and the whole kill switch thing is pretty shitty.. #FFM

    • @MrDmadness
      @MrDmadness Před 2 lety +2

      Killed my friends desire to own a one wheel, his gt ghosted on him 2nd day. I own 2 xrs.. love em

    • @flowsolo
      @flowsolo Před 2 lety +2

      UPDATE: my cousin ended up getting the GT anyway and it ghosted on him after 10 miles. It’s all sorts of messed up now.. but on a positive note - my EUC is getting delivered soon! #FFM

  • @literalcharlie4171
    @literalcharlie4171 Před 2 lety +2

    I’ve always wanted to get one of those boards but I’ll be staying away from FM

    • @mechwar31
      @mechwar31 Před 2 lety +2

      If you're looking at getting a onewheel the older models such as the plus and the XR are still fantastic devices, and since they lack many of the hardware and firmware lockouts that the newer models have, they can be supported by the third party independent repairers network called Stoke Life Service or even by you, the user if you know what you're doing. (Future motion kind of shot themselves in the foot here, because these models are very robust and easy to repair)
      Outside of future motion, It's kind of slim pickings for one wheel skateboards. There's Trotter which is a chinese-based company which makes a very similar product, The Magwheel. And then there's VESC which is an open sourced balance acceleration controller which would allow you to build a DIY onewheel.

    • @literalcharlie4171
      @literalcharlie4171 Před 2 lety

      @@mechwar31 great explanations. I’ll have to look into this. Hopefully the boards aren’t very expensive because a lot of things seem to be rising in price

  • @TheEPICskwock
    @TheEPICskwock Před 2 lety +1

    I live in the USA and I am still mad about this. Sure sending back to future motion would be much much cheaper for me for them to fix it, probably only $400 something dollars, but that would still be much more money then what it would cost me to buy the parts and fix it myself. im not just talking about the battery either. Every part should be sold separately to distributors, including the motor hub. If distributors had lots of spare parts laying around for every onewheel and it was easy and cheap to repair, Onewheels would sell even better. People invest in bikes/dirtbikes because it is easy to get parts to fix them, if the same was true for onewheels more people would buy them and see them as a product that can last a lifetime. Future motion is literally throwing money out the window with their decision pretty dumb.

  • @Vinesauce688
    @Vinesauce688 Před 2 lety

    Powerful, high quality content. I love your stuff bro! Keep up the awesome work!

  • @everettw
    @everettw Před 2 lety

    Great video. Love my Pint as well but FM is unfortunately disappointing. Have had to send my board in for repair twice.

  • @OLDJACKSACADEMY
    @OLDJACKSACADEMY Před rokem

    my understanding is that fm was started with a kickstarter so it was started by the people but obviously they realised they had summink good and decided to just fuck us over

  • @DoctorDugong21
    @DoctorDugong21 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for your help. The more Onewheel-related videos like this flood YT, the more the word gets out. Glad your Pint's still working and you didn't make the mistake of buying a GT. Consider a helmet though.

  • @theRaymiltier
    @theRaymiltier Před rokem +1

    Subscribed to your channel just because of this video. Hope it’s helpful. I have never felt so torn between a product that I truly love, that is changed my life and who’s creator and manufacturer I have so much hatred for. I cannot wait until Vesc is ready for prime time.

  • @ezequieljimenezgarcia5081

    Whatevert you make I'll watch it man, really appreciate the editing that goes into any of your videos.

  • @tomconnolly838
    @tomconnolly838 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for making this video! FM needs to hear our dissatisfaction and address it. They have an amazing product with so much potential.

  • @TheRcdood
    @TheRcdood Před 2 lety

    I understand how some companies are prohibiting self-repair because technology is getting more advanced and more complicated for the common user to repair, however... What they underestimate is that people are also getting smarter and more tutorials that safely show how to self-repair are coming out. How do you expect society to grow and innovate if you keep them in the shell

  • @Moronicsmurf
    @Moronicsmurf Před rokem

    So.. its a balancing motor running a vesc essentially under the hood with a gyro.. how hard can it be to rip the current controller out and replace it with an open source one?! Or just JTAG dump the current one with a Buspirate?! (not owning a Onewheel, but somewhat know my way around... things.. ;P )

  • @TrippingCornwall
    @TrippingCornwall Před 2 lety

    Great video mate!

  • @mr-kris
    @mr-kris Před 2 lety +2

    Oh hell yeah. Love it! Can you imagine if the Companies in the RC industry (I.e. Traxxas) were to pull this crap?

  • @softbreeze941
    @softbreeze941 Před 2 lety

    lower you lows and raise your high frequencies like 5db and you will sound way clearer and cut through that choice of music. Otherwise thank you for standing against that issue!

  • @Southernstar-RINO
    @Southernstar-RINO Před 2 lety

    Couldn’t you bypass by splicing some power into it so it don’t lose power and activates it’s wipe?

    • @VersionGamma
      @VersionGamma  Před 2 lety +1

      You prooobably could, but you shouldn't have to, (a PSU that does a high voltage like that, I think the GT gets to upwards of 70V, will not be cheap) plus to know for sure someone's gotta risk their board.

  • @murphmariotwopointoh7714

    Is that AM2R music at the start of the video?

  • @MatthewEaton
    @MatthewEaton Před 2 lety

    There are restrictions to shipping to Australia as well. Residents on one side of Australia often have to travel to the other side of the country if they really want their board. There are limited DG sites there through FedEx, their standard international courier, and so they can only send them to about 5-6 locations in Australia if the citizens do not have a DG center near them. After having to tell people from Tasmania they have to travel to Australia to pick up their boards from a DG center, I have heard plenty of anger.

  • @strayblackcatsmeow
    @strayblackcatsmeow Před 2 lety

    Funny that the CZcams put a onewheel advertisement with this video.

  • @velvetpilot2008
    @velvetpilot2008 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video! Good job!

  • @hunterwarren5349
    @hunterwarren5349 Před 2 lety

    He who sacrifices liberty of a onewheel repair for the security of a battery deserves nither onewheels nor batteries - Benjamin Franklin

  • @reread2549
    @reread2549 Před 2 lety +1

    The company that wired XT 60s backwards. They want to talk about safety?

  • @narxic
    @narxic Před 2 lety

    2:05 "intermittent issues are the f****** worst". VERY TRUE WORDS!!

  • @MikeTrieu
    @MikeTrieu Před 2 lety

    Eh, it's probably not a volatile vs. non-volatile memory issue. More likely, it's just that the batteries are electronically serialized and there logic in the microcontroller that recognizes when the original battery's been removed and refuses to operate if it sees a different serial number.

  • @p0rtugeek
    @p0rtugeek Před 2 lety +1

    Future Motion... What the fuck? HAHAAHHA I loved it. Great video.

  • @alankowalski8781
    @alankowalski8781 Před 2 lety

    I wonder if you picked up a new BMS on eBay and plugged in a an aftermarket batter with more power or longer life if it would work? I do realize that isn’t the solution because even if that worked, you would have to buy a new bms everytime. But I wonder if there Is a aftermarket bms that would handle even more amps?

  • @Army_of_One_
    @Army_of_One_ Před 2 lety

    3:12 i cant believe im back in electrician night class and matt is the tutor wow

  • @NappyWayz
    @NappyWayz Před 2 lety

    Great video! You have excellent production!

  • @ahah1785
    @ahah1785 Před rokem

    dont forget quality issues/design flaws where balance wires are severed in time making the board a fire bomb.

  • @markwhuron
    @markwhuron Před 2 lety

    Great video bro! 👊🏼👌🏼

  • @milesonewheelwinter
    @milesonewheelwinter Před rokem +1

    Great video brother. I'm over here in the states and I have a GT that I bought for a great deal used with upgrades and hypercharger but I can't agree more regarding shipping even if I need to send it back which I hope I don't. We should be able to do what we want with our own products strong work keep up the fight

  • @waktosha7378
    @waktosha7378 Před 2 lety +1

    If future motion keeps this up, I hope they go out of business!!!

  • @astriverofstrengthandknowledge

    I guess it’s a good thing I got my XR a month before the GT was announced.

  • @edygome
    @edygome Před rokem

    Do your editing and filming style is so good!!!

  • @daviddrrouin5797
    @daviddrrouin5797 Před 2 lety +1

    Been thinking seriously on buying a board but now I am definitely not. Right to repair because I own it. Why would a company make it more difficult unless it's about their profit which they will get none from me

  • @miraclo3
    @miraclo3 Před 2 lety

    thank you for making this video for people like me with no voice but pitch forks in hand.

  • @photog.prince
    @photog.prince Před 2 lety

    This is the 4th time the YT algorithm puts this video in front of me and the thumbnail kills me every time 😂😂😅 Lol

  • @manfrombkk
    @manfrombkk Před 2 lety

    Simply put (well not quit) its time for serious competition (like you know, different motorcycle and EUC and ESK8 manufactures).

  • @snakegs4203
    @snakegs4203 Před 2 lety

    I’m nervous about getting mine Friday.

  • @leo_miuuu
    @leo_miuuu Před 2 lety

    Perfect video. I hope something will change

  • @jaydeluco4006
    @jaydeluco4006 Před 2 lety

    The BMS lockout could very well be required by their liability insurance. These things are a personal injury lawyer's dream, even without the potential (but very real) battery safety issues.

  • @miltonmarin
    @miltonmarin Před 2 lety

    Love the passion dude!

  • @michaelclegg87
    @michaelclegg87 Před 2 lety

    Couldn’t agree more FM need to find a better repair policy solution, maybe they could start by franchising out OW repair shops around the world.

  • @ReversedHD
    @ReversedHD Před 2 lety +1

    When I bought my XR from FM it cost just under $500 to import it into Canada. Definitely never want to ship it back for repairs. No idea how that would work.

    • @quangyung6751
      @quangyung6751 Před 2 lety

      The worst part is the Kyle the inventor of the onewheel is Canadian. Can't even have a repair center in Canada for your own ppl. Slap in the face.

    • @AuRowe
      @AuRowe Před 2 lety

      @@quangyung6751 kinda funny since their whole marketing gimmick is "sick dude Santa Cruz designed by Stoney surfers stokedddd". Santa Cruz thinks their shiz don't stank but Hawaii and San Diego are both much doper places with chiller less communist minded people anyways

  • @polly8259
    @polly8259 Před 2 lety

    You know there’s this thing I’ve heard about that has TWO wheels and UNLIMITED range you could switch too;)

  • @elmowilcox
    @elmowilcox Před 2 lety

    …their little response post says “the steaks 🥩 are high” 😆

  • @reckings799
    @reckings799 Před 2 lety

    Finally got my Gt yesterday. I shipped it back today. Opened it snd charged it up to 100. Ride for 20 min then shut it off. It wouldn’t turn back on this morning. Cust rep told me it would be a really fast turn around. Why the fuck wouldn’t they test it before they sent it if it’s that easy. Honestly worried about this company just closing up shop due to all these issues

  • @frigidtsunami
    @frigidtsunami Před 2 lety +1

    Companies are going towards to don't repair unless it's us. Show me the $$$ When companies have complete proprietary I usually stay away. DIY repair are lagging n being prevented by many corp.

  • @PapaP86
    @PapaP86 Před rokem

    I'd really like to get a GT, but between the price and anti-consumer practices of FM, it does make me want to pick up a used XR that's already a CBXR or one with a compatible firmware. VESC would be cool, but feel like it may be too technical for me unless I wanted to spend tons of time diving into it.

  • @Nottryn
    @Nottryn Před 2 lety

    Damn is that a brand new V1?

  • @shawnrossi6364
    @shawnrossi6364 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks man just canceled my GT

  • @nh4759
    @nh4759 Před rokem

    I crashed in my GT today and I don't think it was my fault. It just went wobbly and I nosedive over it. I'm banged up and sprained both ankles. How can I run a diagnostic to see if I'm at fault or the board?! This feature was taken out via a firmware update I read. Will it void my warranty if I plug it in a computer to see what's wrong with it. Customer service website is extremely difficult to navigate. Took me some work to find a drop box for my issue. That's kind of low. For your issue...you can bridge the power directly to the firmware box. Also, you might get further in the future with complains if you take the emotion out of it.

  • @cd8k116
    @cd8k116 Před 2 lety

    All they'd have to do is open up certified repair centers in multiple cities, states, and countries. They could charge a licensing fee and make a good profit. Hopefully this issue doesn't touch the PX I plan to get one in a few months, but if my only option for repairs is OW I'm on edge. I'd be glad to give them my business locally not have to ship it out.

  • @LlamaSpeeed
    @LlamaSpeeed Před rokem

    make an update with them acknowledging the issues and rolling out replacements

  • @TheIronicTea
    @TheIronicTea Před 2 lety

    The editing and cinematography just keeps on getting better...