The MAGIC KTM TPI Power Valve Adjustment | Top Tip!

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  • @styris6517
    @styris6517 Před 4 lety +43

    That FMF silencer has seen better days

  • @TRGP331
    @TRGP331 Před 4 lety +35

    Not only are the bikes unique individually, the riders are too. The power valve should be adjusted to the rider's preference and needs, just like suspension should.

    • @hachtenduro7824
      @hachtenduro7824 Před 2 lety +1

      I found in practice, that there is an ideal setting and with more preload on PV the torque behaviour of the Motor gets uneven. This means torque is low and with increasing speed it rises much and suddenly. I can not see who can take benefit of such behaviour.

  • @binstunting1
    @binstunting1 Před 4 lety +21

    I bought a KTM today because of this channel ... great work Kyle

    • @user-wc7vn6uz9h
      @user-wc7vn6uz9h Před 3 lety +3

      My dad got me a new 150 sx for my bday and I can't stop riding it, it just hits different

    • @jeff40
      @jeff40 Před 3 lety +2

      @@user-wc7vn6uz9h Congrats on your ktm 150 sx! It is a carbureted version I'm sure. In my opinion that's a good thing. I'm 50 years young...lol but I prefer carved 2- strokes personally as I believe they run better & are more reliable. I still have my older 2011 ktm 300 XC and love it still not to mention I haven't had any problems with it at all. I did replace the piston and reeds 1 time and it still runs like a boss! Enjoy your ride buddy.

    • @Liam-ee8hk
      @Liam-ee8hk Před 3 lety +1

      @@jeff40 definitely agree!

    • @ktmkeith13
      @ktmkeith13 Před 3 lety

      @@user-wc7vn6uz9h congrats on the new bike !

  • @ryanwilliams4270
    @ryanwilliams4270 Před 4 lety +44

    Well said. A lot of us are interested in seeing your inspection of 2019 top end when you break it down. If you weren't planning on filming it, please do.

  • @scottgaskill4896
    @scottgaskill4896 Před 4 lety +1

    Alot of guys try the same thing with jetting. They buy a carb, stick it in and really don't even know how to adjust the airscrew on a daily basis. Once u learn the bike and how the adjustments feel, it only takes 5 minutes. Good video!

  • @hachtenduro7824
    @hachtenduro7824 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you so much, it is all true. You encouraged me to turn the "forbidden" screw. I have tested my adjustment on a 2019 Husky TE250i on a straight with all adjustments from full in to full out. Initially my Bike was weak in the mid of the Powerband and increasing to very strong at upper rev, indicating the PV was preloaded too much and thus opening too late. Turning in, this behaviour shifted to even higher revs.
    Finally, the screw 2 turns out from initial (initial: 1,7mm in) gave me the most power and at the same time the best control.
    Different much better motor now. Thanks a lot! (my optimal setting: screw sticks out 0,3mm from even with housing.)

  • @baccy81
    @baccy81 Před rokem +1

    I just converted my 2022 exc 250 into supermoto. The workshop guys obviously changed the rear sprocket to make the gears longer, but after a few days of riding I realised the bike was nearly dead at low rpm. I turned the power valve 180 degrees counterclockwise and now I have power at any revs because the valve opens earlier and it gives that extra punch to pull longer gears

  • @MrJasonfromcanada
    @MrJasonfromcanada Před 4 lety +12

    On my 17 xcw I’m running the green spring with the brass dongle flush. I like it that way because it made the bike extremely linear. Our trails are really tight with lots of logs and rock step ups with no run ups at times.
    1. It took away arm pump fatigue from going in and out of the hit and a little less clutch work through the tight stuff
    2. I love hoping big logs at low rpm and minimal wheel spin.
    This year was the first time I started tuning the PV. I should have done it earlier.

    • @MunkMyJunk
      @MunkMyJunk Před 4 lety +1

      sounds fun to ride....zzzzzzzzzzzz You probably ride with a reckluse too

    • @MrJasonfromcanada
      @MrJasonfromcanada Před 4 lety +10

      Twiisty nope no rekluse, I live in an area with toughest single track in North America, but thanks for the reply 😉
      Let me guess, your clapped out 2006 honda 450 is just the bomb.....lulz

    • @leroywilliams7210
      @leroywilliams7210 Před 3 lety +1

      on "my" '17 Flush was too far and I was actually detuning it. "My" '17 about 3/4 of a turn out was linear and beyond that I actually started detuning just like in. JD had some great graphs with Dyno Runs years ago showing exactly that.

    • @MrJasonfromcanada
      @MrJasonfromcanada Před 3 lety +1

      Leroy Williams I’ll have to give it a try. I haven’t really played around with it, basically went from stock to flush

  • @P00P_
    @P00P_ Před 3 lety +3

    I got a 1999 ktm 250 mxc the other week. It was a trail rode so the power band never kicked in. Adjusted it and it runs so good now.

  • @colestadtmiller5280
    @colestadtmiller5280 Před 8 měsíci

    Yes exactly! I was disappointed with my 2022 tx300i at first because it felt like it would fall flat on its face in the upper area of the power band. Adjusting to preference is so important, like you said there is no set point for it…it has everything to do with personal preference whether that be your riding skill, your riding type/ environment, and overall what you want out of the bike.

  • @gonyg5316
    @gonyg5316 Před 4 lety +1

    I’ve owned a few Katos but bloody hell I can’t afford to buy 2 at a time let alone 17 bikes in a few years. CZcams must bloody pay well. I’d love to be living this life and riding as much as you do. Keep it up

    • @elbab5722
      @elbab5722 Před 4 lety +2

      It the merch and sponsors not precisely YT...

  • @jacquesnel8384
    @jacquesnel8384 Před rokem +1

    Got my 2013 XC-W dialled in by adjusting 1/4 turn at a time and got it perfect. Great video thanks Kyle.

  • @mickcoleman4704
    @mickcoleman4704 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m totally new to this scene (main hobby being DH MTB), so I’m collecting info. This video was so informative and well presented. Thank you

  • @johnschmalenberg
    @johnschmalenberg Před 3 lety +4

    Just did this to my 2021 300 XC TPI and I'm actually amazed at the difference it made. I was trying to practice slow wheelies and double throttle blips and really struggling. Turned out 2 rotations and bam! slow wheelies no problem. I didn't think it would make that big of difference, definitely going to be bringing out my adjuster tool next time I go to the trails in case I need anymore adjustments.

    • @branttmyhres74
      @branttmyhres74 Před 2 lety

      Did you go counterclockwise or clockwise? Is it flush with case now?

    • @johnschmalenberg
      @johnschmalenberg Před 2 lety +3

      @@branttmyhres74 Counter-clockwise, when the dealer assembled the bike I think they turned it in way to far. It's now close to flush with the case. I would say ride your bike at low speeds and try to pick the front end up without using your arm strength at all, then adjust as needed until it the power comes on the way you like. Like I said in my comment, mine was really slow for power to come on and I had to yank on my bars to get the front end up, after adjusting I could just use the clutch and throttle to get it up into slow wheelies the way I wanted, and the power was the way I wanted in flowy single track too.

    • @branttmyhres74
      @branttmyhres74 Před 2 lety

      @@johnschmalenberg Thanks!

    • @elkku2934
      @elkku2934 Před měsícem

      Im having this exact problem. I will have to turn it way out because right now its 2.7mm in

  • @owiwie
    @owiwie Před 4 lety +28

    Love the vids, I'm 14 and I ride a kx100 but I'm begging my dad for a 150xc-w I can enjoy trail riding more. Keep doing what your doing!

    • @kylepengelly8718
      @kylepengelly8718 Před 4 lety +13

      Owen Friedman get a job save up and buy it yourself. Best feeling
      ever

    • @owiwie
      @owiwie Před 4 lety +4

      @@kylepengelly8718 it probably will, thanks

    • @gonyg5316
      @gonyg5316 Před 4 lety +7

      Hi Owen. My son is only 12 and stands at 5’9. Just 4 months ago he came off a KTM 85SX. I too contemplated putting him on a 150 EXC. After debating a lot and considering his riding style and what terrain we ride I decided to put him straight on the 2020 250 EXC TPI. Best decision ever to bypass the 150. He loves it and really there is no difference in weight. Just to give you a comparison for yourself he is 5’9 and weighs in at 82 kg fully loaded with gear and Camelback. I hope this helps. Trust me you won’t regret going straight to the 250. Have fun.

    • @Dave180M
      @Dave180M Před 3 lety +1

      Don’t beg. Go out and work for it

    • @aaronphillips2728
      @aaronphillips2728 Před rokem +1

      You ever get a 150 my dude? 😆

  • @ZonaEnduro
    @ZonaEnduro Před 4 lety +8

    We like to use red spring with very late break in. This way you have half throttle torque and after half you will have a motocrosser.

    • @ML-vk8ev
      @ML-vk8ev Před 5 měsíci

      What do you mean by very late break in?

    • @ZonaEnduro
      @ZonaEnduro Před 5 měsíci

      @@ML-vk8evvery late open of the pw. but that's just a personal preference.

    • @ML-vk8ev
      @ML-vk8ev Před 5 měsíci

      @ZonaEnduro
      Makes sense now. I guess you have the main spring turned in a few turns. I have a 2014 250 xcw. Last couple bikes were kx & yz 250 so used to being able to pick up the front with a quick twist. I assume my bike has a yellow spring. I turned it out to flush. It's pretty good, but I bought a red to try but haven't installed it yet.

  • @nagelmotox284
    @nagelmotox284 Před rokem +1

    Glad I found this. My 21 250xcw seems a bit sluggish off the bottom... almost electric like

  • @Bimmere
    @Bimmere Před 4 lety +5

    I have been saying this since end of 2018, when I purchased my 2019, and talked to other people that owns/owned tpi bikes, and my final conclusion is every bike is definitely different in their own way and not a cookie cutter assembly from manufacturer

  • @onuraydeniz2040
    @onuraydeniz2040 Před rokem

    I did it mine. Very happy now. Bikes feeling usable now.

  • @abpob6052
    @abpob6052 Před 3 lety

    I'm a little late here but I have a 2017 Husq TX300 and I use a Kreft Powerdial. I change the powervalve all the time based on where I'm riding. I'm 50+ and ride a lot of long races. I turn my pv in quite a bit, usually between 1.5 to 2.5 turns in from flush to make the bike calmer and easier to ride. I have a Lectron carb and an FMF pipe and silencer and turning the adjuster in takes away the whiskey throttle. Full power is always available with just a stab of the clutch when it's needed. Do some testing. You will find there is a lot you can do with the pv to help you ride faster and better.

  • @TheDaltonmichaels
    @TheDaltonmichaels Před 4 lety +5

    even if they made 100 motors in the same day and dyno spec each one, no two would have identical numbers at identical spots along the curve. every piston , rod , head , rings , crank will have different weights and tolerances from each other. leading to every motor behaving differently (minuscule differences) . Also if the motors are tuned to run as clean as possible ( which is likely ) due to the EPA , and unless they can control every single variable from humidity , to barometric pressure in the dyno cell than hour to hour and day to day every motor will have different settings to reach emissions optimizations for the day it was put on the dyno. Thats just my theory Based on KTMs engine assembly information and knowing they do dyno tune and inspect every motor before it gets installed into the bike.
    "There are different types of dynos. Some build up all necessary connections (fixation, exhaust, fuel, wiring) more or less automatic or semi-automatic, after the engine has been put in, some have to be mounted manually. The circulating cooling water is preheated to smooth out ‘warming up’. The dynos for two strokers logically operates without the oil pressure control task, in addition the test run is used to time exactly the opening of the outlet valve at given revs with help of a spring (which has been pre-adjusted on the line), so that engine characteristics are tuned in the optimal way." source KTM Blog.com
    id like to note it does not say the engines are tuned for optimum performance, just they are tuned in the "optimal way" thats like reading the words Natural flavors on the ingredients list on foods. it basically can mean anything and nothing.

  • @knights518
    @knights518 Před 4 lety +3

    I was literally just going to email you this question about my 2020 250xc. I have 5 hours on the bike now and feel like it’s alil boggy. Thanks for the info.

    • @jphart9896
      @jphart9896 Před 4 lety +2

      I have a 2020 250xc I went two turns out and it woke the bike up no bog at all.

    • @xXxIcedaddyxXx
      @xXxIcedaddyxXx Před 4 lety +4

      I'd put some more hrs on it before you really start to mess with too much. The break in period can really take a bit longer then you think. At least from my experience with my '19 250 xcw.

    • @knights518
      @knights518 Před 4 lety +2

      xXxIcedaddyxXx yea that’s what I was thinking too. As of now I don’t think there’s going to be much hare scrambles this year but I want to be ready when we can go racing

    • @downhiller010
      @downhiller010 Před 4 lety +4

      give it a few more hours.. my 250 EXC TPI woke up after 5 hours or so.. but not perfect yet.

  • @mikegrady4
    @mikegrady4 Před 4 lety +2

    I use a 1/4" extension and grind two adjoining sides down. It makes the square smaller. Fit it to the hole in the power valve adjuster. Buy an extension at a hardware or automotive store. The cheapest one is fine. Don't grind too far but it doesn't have to fit perfect. The load to turn it is not horrible. Good Luck!

    • @leroywilliams7210
      @leroywilliams7210 Před 3 lety

      This is what I did and used a small wabbly attached to it I carry in my pocket on Tuning days for quick adjustments!

  • @DezertSlayer
    @DezertSlayer Před 4 lety +3

    I put the red spring in my TPI and it runs awesome!

  • @danpluso
    @danpluso Před 4 lety +1

    Useful info for someone who knows how a two stroke 250/300 should perform. I'm coming off a KLX250S onto a XC300 and will have my first ride this Sunday. Coming off a gutless dual sport, I have no idea how the XC 300 should feel. I guess I just won't touch mine at all or maybe I'll run into another TPI rider who can try my bike and see how it compares to theirs.

  • @RichLaffertyRacing
    @RichLaffertyRacing Před 3 lety +2

    I used to love the red spring in CARB bikes, but TPI it hits in the middle than rather off bottom like it did on carb..

  • @gghhffd990
    @gghhffd990 Před rokem

    Red springs are the go especially for sand , and screwed out flush

  • @Scottstunts
    @Scottstunts Před 3 lety +7

    I run the green spring for two reasons. I facebooked messaged MR Garvis himself and he only runs the green spring. The green spring is also more trackable, and the power is much more linear.

    • @billybull7419
      @billybull7419 Před 3 lety +2

      Garvis

    • @Figi_Ink
      @Figi_Ink Před 3 lety +4

      Are you able to send me a screenshot of that conversation? Hard to know when someone is bullshitting on the interweb

    • @billybull7419
      @billybull7419 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Figi_Ink I would also like to see

    • @samgreen8602
      @samgreen8602 Před rokem

      B.S

  • @Danger_mouse
    @Danger_mouse Před 4 lety +3

    Seems to be what you are saying is a lack of quality control at the factory. They should all be run up and tested and set the same (not the screw position, but the power)
    Each bike should ride exactly like the next one off the line if the proper checks were in place.
    Yes the owner can fiddle with it, but at the prices the Team Orange charge for these bikes, you expect them to be right...Maybe even Ready to Race 🤔

  • @MrTysonjharris
    @MrTysonjharris Před 3 lety +1

    Power valve would better be called power delivery valve. On one end you have torque and the other horsepower. Do you want a slow mid range or fast delivery of horsepower or stated another way but the same thing do you want a longer delivery or mid range or quick loss of torque? The yellow valve gives you balanced delivery of torque and horsepower by creating a smooth range of power delivery. Otherwise without the power valve and a big bore exhaust you’d grab the throttle and it would lug and then all of a sudden stand up and wheelie. On the flip side keeping small exhaust port gives more torque to lug you up hills at low speed but when you open it up there high speed is gone. In short. Don’t piss with it and if you do with big swings it’s a matter of preference and likely will have you being beat on the track or in the hills by your buddies.

  • @chadmirkovich9717
    @chadmirkovich9717 Před 4 lety +6

    With Cody Webb going to Sherco I would love to see you review another 250 or 300 of theirs.

  • @tjschul
    @tjschul Před rokem

    Power valves dont “open” or “close”. The timing of exhaust port is changed in relation to piston position. It simply moves up and down.

  • @bartpeetermans8111
    @bartpeetermans8111 Před 3 lety

    Bought a new te150i and it just ran like crap. When doing 45 mph it huffed and puffed stuttered with a constant throttle opening. After setting the idle It still wasn't working.
    We figured out it could be the powervalve that was willing to open but didn't. But at 45 mph it should be open already.
    We found the PV to be almost completely in. We had to wind it out +3 turns to wake the bike up. There seems to be no basic setting at all at the factory. They mark it so it looks as if one shouldn't play with it.
    Fuel consumption also was very bad for a tpi. Exhaust was wet. I believe the wound in PV might be responsible for all that since the bike couldn't breath out properly.

  • @JMKGarage
    @JMKGarage Před rokem

    Look forward to putting this to the test on my 2023 Husky 150

  • @jarredtremain4644
    @jarredtremain4644 Před 2 lety +1

    Good insight mate. I have 2018 ktm 300, was bit boggy, using heaps of fuel. Didn't like running slow for too long without clearing it out with a good rev. Fouled so many plugs ever ride. Only 50km to a tank if lucky. Changed jets, put suzuki needle in to get rid of mikuni carb stupid weird tapered at end needle. Put powervalve adjustment out too almost flush, 14/49 sprockets. She's an animal now. Beats all my mates 450s in the tracks,dunes,road. Getting just over 150km/hour top speed, but still only about 70-80km range. Mikuni carburetor sux. Wish I had my keihan off last ktm300. Avagud1

  • @pinenutpatriot1931
    @pinenutpatriot1931 Před 4 lety +1

    great info I have a 2019 te300i its spot on little cold blooded but be patient give it a few minutes to warm up ... come ride n nevada on one of my tap out trail tours.

  • @ian9toes
    @ian9toes Před 3 lety

    There are also other colour springs available for finer tuning. I’ve never bothered myself though.

  • @ken-ev2uk
    @ken-ev2uk Před 2 lety

    I have changed the valve tuning with a manual one and honestly I am not agree when you say set it like you like it and leave it i think you need to adjust at what type of riding you do day by day and that manual valve is top you just turn it by hand with no tools .

  • @matthewtoes6433
    @matthewtoes6433 Před rokem

    What's the point of adjusting the valve when your exhaust has been destroyed won't do a thing the 300 stops making power after the strong bottom end with all the tourqe
    But the 250 gets stronger with higher
    Revs

  • @barrthom603
    @barrthom603 Před 4 lety +3

    From my understanding the reason KTM doesn't recommend adjusting the PV away from factory settings is because the fuel injection system is tuned with the factory setting...if you adjust the PV setting the fuel mixture could be off and cause a lean condition.

    • @tempist4
      @tempist4 Před 4 lety

      PV Power Punch - Product Review - Slavens Racing

    • @hoptard
      @hoptard Před 4 lety

      "if you adjust the PV setting the fuel mixture could be off and cause a lean condition"???.....comical

    • @paulschommer5094
      @paulschommer5094 Před 2 lety

      @@hoptard Actually, this is true. Several people had bikes that ran like crap in the midrange and it was traced to the powervalve not opening at the specified RPM from the factory.

    • @hoptard
      @hoptard Před 2 lety +1

      @@paulschommer5094 yeh....whatever dude

  • @ride208
    @ride208 Před 3 lety

    How would it be to buy a new dirt bike every month. CZcamsrs make a good living. Good for you and your family.

  • @brendonchase9460
    @brendonchase9460 Před 4 lety

    Great tip about the power valve bolt. Thanks

  • @posidon_sf
    @posidon_sf Před 8 měsíci +1

    It is rotated to the left or right when you want to add power ?? Thankyou

  • @marshallgerston4809
    @marshallgerston4809 Před 3 lety

    Whew, a lot of words to basically say - ride and tune to preference.

  • @adamdyment9732
    @adamdyment9732 Před 4 lety +2

    Jimmy Lewis (runs dirt bike test) says not to adjust the powervalve without addressing ECU tuning as you might cause motor damage to a tpi bike. Any thoughts on this? Jimmy is a pretty knowledgeable guy if you aren't familiar with him

    • @leroywilliams7210
      @leroywilliams7210 Před 3 lety

      JD Jetting did a bunch of dyno runs on this a couple years back and the amount of change in fuel ratio was very negligible.

    • @adamdyment9732
      @adamdyment9732 Před 3 lety

      @@leroywilliams7210 was this on a fuel injected or carbeureted two stroke?

    • @leroywilliams7210
      @leroywilliams7210 Před 3 lety +2

      Adam Dyment JD did dyno tests on TPI and non TPI bikes. He has graphs published of what each 1/4 turn does from closed to open to your power curve and he tested TPI bikes to see if turning it a turn would make them run too lean.
      My TPI I had red spring and 5/8 turn out. I also added a JD Tuner as “my ‘19” TPI was lean and lethargic from the day I got it.

  • @pieterbirtz2434
    @pieterbirtz2434 Před 4 lety +3

    Awesome video thx for the tips😹
    Wish I could win a bike butt I dont live in the States

  • @DevinOrr
    @DevinOrr Před rokem

    This video was very helpful. Just one question though. Did you change to any of the other spring colors? I currently have the red spring in mine. It was the first thing I changed when I got it home back in 2019. Not really sure what the other springs are like.

  • @georgedragojlovic4832
    @georgedragojlovic4832 Před 2 lety

    Would you know if it's OK to make adjustments on the power valve after installing a coober ECU.? Thanks for all the content and your helpful opinions on KTMs. Finally pulled the trigger on a new 300 xc and love it Thanks again dude

  • @croydonzeldra5623
    @croydonzeldra5623 Před 2 lety

    my exhaust used to catch fire and glow red. totally discolor
    winding my valve out cause the bike to stall. and winding it in caused it to rev to half throttle no powerband
    ktm powerparts dont sell the spring. could this spring be cooked and gone to stiff

  • @stevenmcallister2230
    @stevenmcallister2230 Před rokem

    Hi I have a ktm sxf 250cc 2011 model fuel injection when I pull throttle back it dies can u help

  • @mmpp7820
    @mmpp7820 Před 2 lety

    What i want to know is.. do i risk something bad on my bike, tuning the valve?

  • @oldnewmotorcycles6197
    @oldnewmotorcycles6197 Před 4 lety

    I play around and the bike now is working great

  • @airplanetrail
    @airplanetrail Před 2 lety

    Would have been helpful to state what changes as you screw it in or out rather than stating you bought 19 of these and they all came different 16 times on repeat. You're just a sweepstakes guy trying to hawk orange power valve covers?

  • @mikeburnett6222
    @mikeburnett6222 Před 4 lety +2

    As you know I support your channel. But I have a simple question. Instead of adjusting the newer versions of the TPI bikes, the ones suggested not to move. Why haven't you tried using the other spring rates first? Seeing if that give the desired outcome / without changing the setting from the factory dyno?

  • @dawber2111
    @dawber2111 Před rokem

    how should i know if it’s better or worse. idk how these bikes should feel when i get on the power and trail riding

  • @mwconnolly3667
    @mwconnolly3667 Před rokem

    What is the range? Will it just stop if you turn in too far? I am always afraid to muck with that thing.

  • @cameronsattler5205
    @cameronsattler5205 Před 2 lety

    I have. 2019 250 xc-w tpi. About 50 hours on it. Running like is plugged up now. Used to run great. I replace crank case pressure sensor. Still running plugged up. What else do you suggest. I need help please.

  • @treymorita
    @treymorita Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks for the content, as far as "tune it to your preference" -- what exactly does it change as far as the power characteristics? You mentioned not liking how one of them revved out and 2 full turns out resolved that -- so it changes top-end? does it do anything for bottom end? How does modifying it interact using the power map switch?

    • @BarnStangz
      @BarnStangz Před 4 lety +1

      It's the hit. The further in, the hit will come later and not be as snappy. With the screw flush with the case, the hit will come sooner. You just have to play with it. I keep my Beta 300RR almost flush with the case. You just have to play with it.

    • @treymorita
      @treymorita Před 4 lety

      @@BarnStangz From the dyno charts I've seen with a little googling it looks like it makes a difference starting somewhere in the 4500 - 5500 range and up from there. So to answer my own question, seems like low-end is unaffected.

    • @rosselliott7375
      @rosselliott7375 Před 4 lety +1

      Trey Morita it just adjusts when the powerband comes in. The low end isn’t affected

    • @ryanravosa5414
      @ryanravosa5414 Před 4 lety

      The further out it is, the quicker the power band comes in and further in the later. With it all the way flush the power will come on sooner but because it's a couple hundred rpms lower shouldn't be as violent.

  • @jarredtremain4644
    @jarredtremain4644 Před 2 lety

    Still animal on fast or slow map switch with those adjustments. Avagud1 again mate

  • @tonypride3859
    @tonypride3859 Před 3 lety

    So does screwing it out makes it more jumppier

  • @adamfolino9953
    @adamfolino9953 Před 3 lety

    Hey mate just bought 300xc and dealer told me not to touch the power valve cause it’s been set on the dyno and tuned .. i made 1 turn out just wanna know if it will stuff my bike up down the track ? Thanks

  • @DmDetails
    @DmDetails Před 4 lety +2

    Good stuff Kyle

  • @vinceking7878
    @vinceking7878 Před 3 lety

    So it isn’t controlled by the ECU then

  • @thisguyeddiex7136
    @thisguyeddiex7136 Před 3 lety

    How does the bike usually act if you turn the screw out too much? Is it bad for the bike ?

  • @n.nikolov
    @n.nikolov Před 2 lety

    Did someone tried changing springs? Any problems with durability if the motor?

  • @jrago6228
    @jrago6228 Před 3 lety

    Looking at a 2021 300
    Would u say turning the power valve out gives more low end rev, for example hitting/revs hard coming out of corners.
    Tuning this cause any issues with the oil to fuel auto mix?

  • @breiss13
    @breiss13 Před 3 lety

    I’ve seen one of your videos where you say that you use the red spring in all your ktms because it makes the power more linear. Is this also true with tpi bikes or do you leave in the yellow spring and just adjust the screw on the fuel injected models. I have a 250 tpi and was considering red spring. Lineat

  • @NeilCowancowannetwork
    @NeilCowancowannetwork Před 3 lety

    Great video Kyle thanks!

  • @zero-xw4fl
    @zero-xw4fl Před rokem

    So all the way out for fully open 😅

  • @christians1173
    @christians1173 Před 4 lety

    If u mess with the power valve dont u have to adjust the mapping too

  • @CorrupteddSanity
    @CorrupteddSanity Před 4 lety +1

    hi - wanted to support you by picking up a DBC World Shirt but they're out of stock

  • @pvflyer67
    @pvflyer67 Před 3 lety

    Thanks , very helpful.

  • @kevinwake9439
    @kevinwake9439 Před 4 lety +1

    Kyle do you know if this is a color coated spring in there? Have you been inside these tpi power valves?

    • @leroywilliams7210
      @leroywilliams7210 Před 3 lety

      TPI bikes come with the Yellow Spring just like the non-TPI, you can still buy the other springs and replace though. TPIs are a bit soft so a Red spring really can help.

  • @mxcjoe
    @mxcjoe Před 2 lety

    Wife just bought me a 2022 300xcw for Christmas! 🤘. But I do have a question. I have had an 06 (vforce 4 reeds and fmf exhaust) forever. Always loved it. Riding them back to back the 06 seems like it's just way more alive. Is that to be expected or is there something I need to check into on the '22?

    • @Stewart7516
      @Stewart7516 Před 2 lety

      Yes, back out your power valve screw a turn or two and repeat as desired until your preferred powerband is achieved

    • @mxcjoe
      @mxcjoe Před 2 lety

      @@Stewart7516 I will try this thanks!

  • @JohnTYoung
    @JohnTYoung Před 3 lety

    "We don't have TPI because it's better than carburetors." 😂

  • @sendit1158
    @sendit1158 Před 3 lety

    Whats the yellow paint on the screw?

  • @rposton919
    @rposton919 Před 3 lety

    Ramble and repeat any?

  • @brendonsweeney4162
    @brendonsweeney4162 Před 4 lety

    Hi Kyle, love the channel, big fan. Soooo, to confirm; screw out (anti clockwise) for a more aggressive power curve, screw in (clockwise) for a mellow power curve? Also have you had any experience with changing the the spring color, ie as per older ktm 2ies?

    • @leroywilliams7210
      @leroywilliams7210 Před 3 lety

      Basically, Yes, But if you go too far out you will have a similar effect as going in. I like to find a small loop with some undulations and a slight to medium uphill to roll on and off the throttle on, I go OUT 1/2 turn, better or worse If better, another 1/2 turn, not better then back 1/4 better then I leave it and so on. I've found on my 3 17-19 300s I liked 1/2 - 5/8 turn out on all of them, it just makes the power come on a bit earlier which makes it more linear instead of detuned then a hit.

    • @samuelyeet6006
      @samuelyeet6006 Před 3 lety

      @@leroywilliams7210 is that out from how it came from the factory, or 1/2 turn out from it being in as far as it goes?

    • @leroywilliams7210
      @leroywilliams7210 Před 3 lety

      @@samuelyeet6006 Most bikes I’ve worked on have ended up 1/2-5/8 turn out from the factory settings.

    • @samuelyeet6006
      @samuelyeet6006 Před 3 lety +1

      @@leroywilliams7210 ohh ok, see i couldnt tell if people were getting them and turning the screw all the way in and then counting turns out, or like you said getting them and turning it out

  • @milosbgd
    @milosbgd Před 3 lety

    What do you think about S3 Heads for hard enduro?

  • @hexhead5732
    @hexhead5732 Před 4 lety +2

    Good to know about that power adjustment tune it to your riding skill. nice 👍

    • @apostate4apostate494
      @apostate4apostate494 Před 3 lety +3

      The most skilled riders on earth like Graham Jarvis run the screw all the way in (green spring equivalent). Makes the bike the most toned down and controllable for traction and getting power to the ground. It’s the noobs who turn it all the way out “for the roost”, “the power band” etc. the higher your skill the more you want to turn it in. The opposite of what most people think!

    • @davidb.4342
      @davidb.4342 Před 3 lety

      @@apostate4apostate494 two better riders than I ride flush and convinced me to try the same. I adjusted my 250 xcw tpi to flush, whiskey throttled on portions of the 12 mile loop that I usually enjoy, had immediate ridiculous arm pump and whiskey throttled again down a hill. Road back to the trailer and cranked that baby back in! screw that! Literally hahahaha

  • @Freakywiththesauce
    @Freakywiththesauce Před rokem

    Whats with the weird random filters

  • @torco1963
    @torco1963 Před 4 lety

    So whats a good way to start out? Turn it out all the way and adjust in or vis-à-vis??

    • @rosselliott7375
      @rosselliott7375 Před 4 lety +4

      If the bike is too snappy turn it in 1/4 ride it keep adjusting if it’s still to snappy. or not snappy enough turn it out 1/4 then ride it

  • @hardendurobosnia17
    @hardendurobosnia17 Před 3 lety +1

    PLEASE KYLE CHECK TOKYO OFF ROAD'S VIDEO ON TPI POWER VALVE ADJUSTMENT
    Please remake this video

  • @orijinalgamesta9738
    @orijinalgamesta9738 Před 4 lety +1

    My Son has a ‘19 150 xcw, the manual says do not move the brass adjustment screw. It came with two springs, one is yellow and the other has no color code. We have tried both springs and both seem to hold the power closed for too long. Anyone have any suggestions on whether or not to move the brass adjuster?

  • @buddymcshreds5284
    @buddymcshreds5284 Před 4 lety

    Guess you never rode a zuk in the 90s 00s

  • @renatosferreira85
    @renatosferreira85 Před 4 lety

    Good job!

  • @eedut
    @eedut Před 4 lety +9

    kinda weird editing in this one :D

    • @suzuki06g
      @suzuki06g Před 4 lety +3

      I think he did it on purpose to give those comments more time to sink in, but I do admit that at first I thought my connection was having issues.

  • @Van_gocea
    @Van_gocea Před 4 lety

    do you know which spring is inside the 250 tpi 2020 ..or can it be changed ?

  • @reytumamac4140
    @reytumamac4140 Před 4 lety +1

    can i get one

  • @billybull7419
    @billybull7419 Před 3 lety +1

    What child just discovered the video effects.

  • @jordaneldridge1206
    @jordaneldridge1206 Před 4 lety

    You should get a Apollo dirt bike, and do a review on it.

  • @philipsmith6152
    @philipsmith6152 Před 3 lety

    How much is.... in just a touch 1/4 1/2 ?

    • @jonzeeee4
      @jonzeeee4 Před 3 lety

      I didn't notice a dramatic change until 2.5 turns (anticlockwise)

  • @human1513
    @human1513 Před 2 lety

    The power valve spec in the Owners Manual is not the same for a 250 and a 300.
    2020, 2021 & 2022 300"s all call for 2.3 mm +-0.2 mm distance from the top of the aduster screw out to the surface of the case around the screw.
    It is 2.7 mm as I recall for those years of 250"s.
    Must compare apples to apples! 300 to 300. 250 to 250l
    So your 2 bikes bought on the same day should not have been the same!
    You are wrong not KTM.
    I have z 2022 300 XC,

  • @jarrellllewellyn9199
    @jarrellllewellyn9199 Před 3 lety

    My 2020 300 exc is an awesome bike but it hits a wall for a few seconds just as it’s about to hit power band , is this a power valve issue or something else ?

  • @switchlightingnz1191
    @switchlightingnz1191 Před 4 lety

    So can you explain what happens when you screw in vs screw out? Screw in for less aggressive power?

    • @1slammedEK
      @1slammedEK Před 4 lety

      In makes powervalve open later out makes it open sooner.

    • @leroywilliams7210
      @leroywilliams7210 Před 3 lety

      In, Power comes on later and usually more of a "Hit", out and it comes on earlier giving less "hit" and more linear, but giving more power earlier which can be too much and abrupt.

  • @dannyrose5576
    @dannyrose5576 Před 4 lety +1

    This is not the correct way to adjust the Power valve on the tpi. You need the xc2 diagnostic tool. Activate Power valve set up which limits the bike to 5000rpm. Then you can adjust the toothed arm on the right hand side with the cover off. That's the standard setting should be done at the factory but isn't. After that's done you can make small adjustments.

  • @lewiscross2123
    @lewiscross2123 Před 2 lety

    Well you say it’s “kinda garbage advise” but let’s just think for a second that ktm are setting them up so they all perform equally, the power valve opens and closes the same on each bike, however due to some variables (at ktm that we are not aware of) the brass screw can vary greatly in regards to position when set at the factory……. So if you adjust it half a turn out or half a turn in it’s going to have the same effect on the power valve (naturally minus some variables) regardless of where it was set from factory. So now your logic is nonsense isn’t it. Either it’s nonsense or ktm just sets them up wherever looks about right and it’s really not that big of a deal in which case they are all different from the factory in terms of performance and power curve

  • @brockspaulding3948
    @brockspaulding3948 Před 4 lety

    Hey can you do a review of a crf 250x or a wr 250

  • @andrecasanova3753
    @andrecasanova3753 Před 4 lety

    if I won I'm gonna choose the beta bike.

  • @garydetaeye7081
    @garydetaeye7081 Před 4 lety

    ktm is a rich mans bike