Works with elbows too! My wife popped her own elbow back in using a similar method by sitting on a chair and grabbing the chair between her knees then slowly leaning back and it popped right back in. Got an xray the following day and there were no other problems, super lucky all around.
Thank you brother. I literally just did this, popped it back in within a minute. Didn't even experience pain. Thank you, just saved my 2-3 hours going to the hospital
First time I did it, we went to the hospital. The doctor and two nurses put you in this thing that holds you arm out from your body, then proceed to yank and pull on your arm while moving it around until it goes back in. 2nd time my dad refused to pay the hospital bill to do it, so he did it. Had me lean over just like this except he pulled down my arm by my wrist and it backed back in. That was much less painful than the first time.
@@gotdisgotdatentertainment1432 I can Mel Gibson that bitch back in now, problem is it popping out 🤣 it hurts pretty damn bad and I would never do that on purpose.
@@gotdisgotdatentertainment1432I’m on dislocation number 6…. Still don’t know how 😂 one time I got it back in when I woke up with it out of place from sleeping with my arms underneath my pillow. I’ve had 5 hospital visits and now owe 8 grand… my minimum payment is 287 dollars a month. Lovely! So much fun! 😂😂
I put my own back in by lying face down on the side of the bed and just letting my arm hang down. It went in easily...probably because I did it right away. Heard there's a method where you hold a bucket and slowly add water to gently increase the weight and that pops it back, too. I think the real key is to act fast and stay as relaxed as you can.
@@flyboy8752 yep, I've dislocated and put mine back a few times. Luckily just letting my arm hang limp and relaxing has done it in the past, but the toe trick seems like a good tool to have.
@@cpcrook so you don’t go all Bruce Willis or Mel Gibson and slam it into a wall or door frame? 🤣 This blew my mind how easy it was and the immediate relief on his face. I’m hoping you still took care to check your brachial pulse and finger tips to make sure nothing important got pinched in there when it popped back in too, because I know that would be my biggest worry of self-treatment. Kudos though! 😬
@@ghostofuchiha3807 yeah but you don’t have to pay it in every country. Healthcare isn’t everywhere as expensive as in the US. And in some countries there’s Health insurance that’s gonna cover a lot for you!
@@grillbesteck6319 still, waiting time in the hospital must be long and tedious everywhere and the longer you wait, the more painful and risky it becomes to pop it back in. Doctors do not do anything that different than you can do yourself. Just hold it straight, relax and pull.
Had a partial shoulder dislocation last night in the gym (it didnt dislocate entirely from the joint) and i popped it back in by myself, a friend told me that now it will happen frequently and easier, is that true? I know its true if its a complete dislocation but does it apply if its partial? Asking you since it happened to you recently
@@orestiszezas2595 it’s not my experience that this will reoccur more frequently. I would definitely Google this a bit more. What I would recommend is going to a physiotherapist regardless, to have them check it out. This technique is really just “first aid“. First aid that happens to be very effective. After that, definitely see a professional.
@@orestiszezas2595Sorry for late reply mate - yes you will very likely dislocate again even if it was partially. Any sort of dislocation causes tearing of the shoulder labrum (tissue that helps keep the humoral bone in the socket), which causes instability. Make sure to incorporate shoulder rotator cuff strengthening exercises into your workout (light loads ofc). And if pain persists or it happens again, get to an orthopaedic doctor and get your shoulder screened as wear and tear can create arthritis later in life, and may be managed with a minor surgery
@@orestiszezas2595I myself had a partial dislocation playing sport, then another time i hit my shoulder on a door frame and it popped out, and now it can be simple as rolling over wrong or drying off from the shower. It’s easy to put back in now, but I am currently awaiting to see an orthopaedic doctor
Can you explain more clearly about the treatment? My husband has trouble with his left shoulder dislocation recently and I cant help him if there's no doctor orr medical assisstance
Hello, I could just imagine the pain your husband goes through when this happens. I hope it does not happen to him again. However what works for me is my wife grabs me a chair to sit down very slowly at my own pace. Once I’m sat down and settled , I slowly grab the front edge of the seat with my dislocated right shoulder (again at my own pace) then pull it upwards (which can be very painful). Basically ,Just like this video but I’m sitting down compared to the gentleman in this video who is on his feet. FYI, I’m not a medical professional, this works for me especially when the first responders are not there right away.
I pop m'y shoulder 4 years ago IT was a pain to w8 at the hospital 5 hours.. then i saw this vidéo i was like i Will remember this one for sure .. and 2d fall At work and Pop m'y other shoulder .. 30 seconde after i did the same technique and IT work .. i put IT back IT took 5 seconde .. the worst was to get Up and prépare myself for the technique but IT work si good .. sure i still have pain but IT save me 1 month of réhabilitation on sure i Will be good to work back on about 2 -3 Day max
Press into your upper armpit with something like a railing and it will pop it back in. I do this all the time even at work when it randomly comes out. Thank me later. You want to have the railing or someone’s hand pressing in the inner armpit while sliding up and using the other hand to hold the arm on the wrist/elbow to forearm area whatever area causes less pain while holding it still. Use your other hand into the armpit but pressing into your body while sliding up. You can also make like a paper or hands flat while going up slowly while applying pressure
Ok, you must have been reading my mind. I have been wondering about what to do in case of a dislocated shoulder. Good Grief I had no idea you could dislocate your elbow. I guess if there is a body joint involved it can get hurt like anything else you do wrong. Ok so the video was interesting but can someone please explain exacly what was being done so that I can commit this to memory. Are ALL dislocations (Shoulder wise) the same and can use the same treatment? How do you know your shoulder is dislocated? I have never had one so I don't know what the symptoms are or how you feel. My Uncle was hunting alone and slid down a small hill and dislocated his shoulder and had to fix it himself, but he never said how he did it. I think this is why it has been on my mind. I would also ask if you have videos that talk about this kind of body repair where a person is by themself and they have to fix it themself? I have gone in and downloaded and Archived every one of your videos currently on YT so I can have them to study and watch.
He had the dude bend over, relax and put his fingertips under the top of his shoe (at the tips of his toes). Then Once he was relaxed he just sat up with the fingers in place under his toes. The movement just popped it back in. Watch the video again and pay attention to where his fingers were placed and the quick but relaxed movement as he pulled against his shoe. Hope this helps.
@@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens Thank you, yes that explains a lot. Thank you again for the information. For some reason I have really been concerned about what to do in case I come on scene where someone will have a dislocated shoulder or something will happen to me. So now i have an idea of what I could have do to help someone or myself if it happens.
@@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens I watched it again (a couple of times) now that I knew what to look for and concentrate on It made sense. Thank you again, I really appreciate it.
I dislocated mine a lot playing sports in high school many years ago. You know it's out because it hurts very badly and you can't move very much. I used to lay down flat on my back and rotate my body, leaving the arm still, it wold pop back in and feel great. I finally reached a point where it would pop out when waking up in the morning to stretch and had to have surgery. Now, I'm 60 y/o and it's worn out and have arthritis in the joint. Hope you never experience the feeling.
@@unknownhomesteader318 Oh no, I have never done this to myself. However I have an uncle this happened to when he was alone hunting. He had to fix it himself. I think when it happened he was in his late 70's but he did it. That has always been on the back of my mind. I was only asking in case it does happen to me or someone else I come across who needs help. It doesn't sound real bad but It's not fun either. I like that you can repair yourself if you know what you are doing. Thanks for the input. Every little bit helps.
Thank God I've seen this Video just a couple of months before i dislocated my shoulder in training, i quickly did the same move and it popped right back in. Just stay calm and let everything loose while doing it. Its still important to see a doc after that, the lebrum tears almost every time the shoulder pops out and a surgery for young active people is recommended. Thanks for putting out this amazing video
I did this by accident once when I fell. Dislocated my shoulder but bent over to pick up my wallet and popped it back in. Problem is that my shoulder had a crack in it and popping it back in made it worse (corkscrew fracture I think they said), so have someone check it out even after you pop it back in.
Was the relocation painful? How bad was the fracture in terms of pain, I'm just curious. I've never broke a bone but I'm heavy enough that tripping properly could probably break or fracture my arm if I landed on it wrong(~270+), I'm very careful with my steps and footing because the cost of medical care would probably hurt way worse than the actual fracture.
@Potatotenkopf I live in Australia so didn't cost me anything... it felt like an intense stinging pain when it dislocated... it felt better when it popped back in but later it was an all over body ache starting from my shoulder... intensity kind of like if you get lightly tapped in the balls...it aches but you can work through it... I actually went back to work for an hour before deciding I needed to go to the hospital. Took about six to eight months to heal and still flares up from time to time.
@@Potatotenkopf instant relief when the shoulder is relocated in its socket… but when the dislocation initially happens the pain is excruciating.. feels like someone is touching your exposed nerve😮
Yeah typically an anterior dislocation would be rotated outward so you want to apply more rotational force to put it back in but this could still work for an anterior dislocation in some cases with a bit of modification to the technique
No need for amy techniques, right now is my second time relocating it all by myself hahaha after dislocating it trying some push ups where u jump or whatever... kinda felt like it was not ready for that shock lol
I wish I had watched this before spending 45 minutes in a car and 7 hours in a waiting room. Does this work in both/all cases, where the shoulder is either in front or behind the joint?
I just done mine today after falling off the dirt scooters on got up with both hands I felt a pop on my right shoulder. Medical said they couldn’t find anything to put back in. But I do have immense stiffness and can’t really raise it much. Any idea shoulder friends 😂 is it normal
Holy crap it worked. A few seconds ago I think I dislocated my shoulder, I was moving it and I could hear the bones scraping each other, but now since I tried this. I no longer it it, yippee!
Too bad my er doc didnt know what he was doing and just moved my arm all over the place 3 times and couldn't get it, then sedated me and ripped me all up.
Having your shoulder pop back in is orgasmic....one moment everything is wrong with the universe...the next moment all is well. Usually holding something heavy in my hand and walking around a while will pop mine back in. Had to do this well over 50 times now.
Works with elbows too! My wife popped her own elbow back in using a similar method by sitting on a chair and grabbing the chair between her knees then slowly leaning back and it popped right back in. Got an xray the following day and there were no other problems, super lucky all around.
You let her get an xray? They didn't ask about the bruises?
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@@Mills141bruh
Thank you brother. I literally just did this, popped it back in within a minute. Didn't even experience pain. Thank you, just saved my 2-3 hours going to the hospital
Thats crazy, america’s healthcare has people watching youtube videos to try and care for themselves
Huh eastern europe they force everyone to pay health insurance but then have to wait 1-2 years to get mr@@fletzyproductions1190
First time I did it, we went to the hospital. The doctor and two nurses put you in this thing that holds you arm out from your body, then proceed to yank and pull on your arm while moving it around until it goes back in.
2nd time my dad refused to pay the hospital bill to do it, so he did it. Had me lean over just like this except he pulled down my arm by my wrist and it backed back in. That was much less painful than the first time.
Lmao that's fucked up, if you do it a buncha times you'll learn to put it back on your own
@@gotdisgotdatentertainment1432 I can Mel Gibson that bitch back in now, problem is it popping out 🤣 it hurts pretty damn bad and I would never do that on purpose.
its way harder and more painful the longer you wait, that is probably why the hospital one hurts more
@@gotdisgotdatentertainment1432I’m on dislocation number 6…. Still don’t know how 😂 one time I got it back in when I woke up with it out of place from sleeping with my arms underneath my pillow. I’ve had 5 hospital visits and now owe 8 grand… my minimum payment is 287 dollars a month. Lovely! So much fun! 😂😂
Something tells m he's had to do that a couple times
I put my own back in by lying face down on the side of the bed and just letting my arm hang down. It went in easily...probably because I did it right away. Heard there's a method where you hold a bucket and slowly add water to gently increase the weight and that pops it back, too. I think the real key is to act fast and stay as relaxed as you can.
doin it right away...it wants to go back in. had to put my own shoulder back in once.
Ouch
@@SkinnyMedic great to know, but dang, I still cringed watching it!
@@flyboy8752 yep, I've dislocated and put mine back a few times. Luckily just letting my arm hang limp and relaxing has done it in the past, but the toe trick seems like a good tool to have.
@@cpcrook so you don’t go all Bruce Willis or Mel Gibson and slam it into a wall or door frame? 🤣 This blew my mind how easy it was and the immediate relief on his face. I’m hoping you still took care to check your brachial pulse and finger tips to make sure nothing important got pinched in there when it popped back in too, because I know that would be my biggest worry of self-treatment. Kudos though! 😬
@@SkinnyMedic "ouch" was the day after...1st came the awwww....
I fixed mine today by sitting down on the floor, hugging one of my raised knee by holding the wrist of the bad side and leaning back. Pop!
Your method works for me.Thanks.
Thank you so much 😭
I just dislocated mine for the third time in 18 months from a sneeze. Definitely going to remember this one
Always remember guys, when popping your shoulder back in by yourself there’s a chance of nerves getting pinched
Who cares? Better than to pay the hospital bill.
@@ghostofuchiha3807 yeah but you don’t have to pay it in every country. Healthcare isn’t everywhere as expensive as in the US. And in some countries there’s Health insurance that’s gonna cover a lot for you!
@@grillbesteck6319 still, waiting time in the hospital must be long and tedious everywhere and the longer you wait, the more painful and risky it becomes to pop it back in. Doctors do not do anything that different than you can do yourself. Just hold it straight, relax and pull.
I Prefer that then w8 5 hours to the hospital for x ray and procédure ..
Credit where it's due, I fixed myself up with this yesterday!
Had a partial shoulder dislocation last night in the gym (it didnt dislocate entirely from the joint) and i popped it back in by myself, a friend told me that now it will happen frequently and easier, is that true? I know its true if its a complete dislocation but does it apply if its partial? Asking you since it happened to you recently
@@orestiszezas2595 it’s not my experience that this will reoccur more frequently. I would definitely Google this a bit more. What I would recommend is going to a physiotherapist regardless, to have them check it out. This technique is really just “first aid“. First aid that happens to be very effective. After that, definitely see a professional.
@@orestiszezas2595Sorry for late reply mate - yes you will very likely dislocate again even if it was partially. Any sort of dislocation causes tearing of the shoulder labrum (tissue that helps keep the humoral bone in the socket), which causes instability. Make sure to incorporate shoulder rotator cuff strengthening exercises into your workout (light loads ofc). And if pain persists or it happens again, get to an orthopaedic doctor and get your shoulder screened as wear and tear can create arthritis later in life, and may be managed with a minor surgery
@@orestiszezas2595I myself had a partial dislocation playing sport, then another time i hit my shoulder on a door frame and it popped out, and now it can be simple as rolling over wrong or drying off from the shower. It’s easy to put back in now, but I am currently awaiting to see an orthopaedic doctor
Wow. That look amazingly easy! Good thing he was there to save the day.
Amazing! I have only ever seen the old wrench it till the victim screams method.
I saw this video 2 years ago…! Today I dislocated my shoulder and thats how i got it back in! Thank you for the knowledge!😢
Thank You for this video! My right shoulder is now back on it’s place! 😅🙏🏻
Can you explain more clearly about the treatment? My husband has trouble with his left shoulder dislocation recently and I cant help him if there's no doctor orr medical assisstance
@@tienvo4655 another way firstly you put your hand 👊✊ into his underarm then force upper, surely dislocation cure, hope help it 😊
On it is place?
Hello, I could just imagine the pain your husband goes through when this happens. I hope it does not happen to him again. However what works for me is my wife grabs me a chair to sit down very slowly at my own pace. Once I’m sat down and settled , I slowly grab the front edge of the seat with my dislocated right shoulder (again at my own pace) then pull it upwards (which can be very painful). Basically ,Just like this video but I’m sitting down compared to the gentleman in this video who is on his feet. FYI, I’m not a medical professional, this works for me especially when the first responders are not there right away.
I pop m'y shoulder 4 years ago IT was a pain to w8 at the hospital 5 hours.. then i saw this vidéo i was like i Will remember this one for sure .. and 2d fall At work and Pop m'y other shoulder .. 30 seconde after i did the same technique and IT work .. i put IT back IT took 5 seconde .. the worst was to get Up and prépare myself for the technique but IT work si good .. sure i still have pain but IT save me 1 month of réhabilitation on sure i Will be good to work back on about 2 -3 Day max
You are the best man, it really helped me
That is how I got my shoulder in the first time it came out.
I just found your channel on pinball prepper, new subscriber! 👍🏼
Thank you very much. I thought this was not true.. it turns out to be genuine.. thank you for the tutorial 😊😊😊😊
Awesome. Gotta remember that!! Thanks for the info. 😊
Once more please. The guy with black hat blocked the main scene..this is important.
I literally gasp aloud in pain/relief after this happens to myself
❤ was waiting two hours at the hospital finally popped mine back into place
OMG THANKSS FOR THE TIPSS, IT WORKS ON MINEE😊😊
❤ bro you just fix my shoulder problem that I had for more than 2 years my shoulder snapped back in place.🎉🎉🎉🎉
Bro thank you so much just save me another doctor visit💯💯💯💯💯💯
Good info as well as good info in many of the comments as well.
Press into your upper armpit with something like a railing and it will pop it back in. I do this all the time even at work when it randomly comes out. Thank me later. You want to have the railing or someone’s hand pressing in the inner armpit while sliding up and using the other hand to hold the arm on the wrist/elbow to forearm area whatever area causes less pain while holding it still. Use your other hand into the armpit but pressing into your body while sliding up. You can also make like a paper or hands flat while going up slowly while applying pressure
My left shoulder has come out several times. I’ll remember this little trick!
My buddy just had to do this after a drunk wrestling match 😂 worked like a charm
Really thank ful this video act like God to me I was in huge pain
works like magic.. thanks! 🥳🥳🥳
Best method
Wow this helped, just popped my shoulder back in
A fainted after I popped mine out and fell down. The fall popped it back in lol.
Did it yesterday and came unbelievably close to passing out. It didn’t even hurt that bad but I almost went down either way.
better than propofol and a bunch of tugging!
Wow I can’t believe this worked! Pming you to send you some ❤
i just tried this and it works!!! my shoulder came out approximately 14 times.. hate going to the hospitals
But how do i get my wife and kids back dr?
Thanks!
Fixed my shoulder with this
Dislocated shoulders... A motocross classic haha
Not sure why but I can easily pop my left one out deliberately by just flexing some muscles in my arm.
Ok, you must have been reading my mind. I have been wondering about what to do in case of a dislocated shoulder. Good Grief I had no idea you could dislocate your elbow. I guess if there is a body joint involved it can get hurt like anything else you do wrong. Ok so the video was interesting but can someone please explain exacly what was being done so that I can commit this to memory. Are ALL dislocations (Shoulder wise) the same and can use the same treatment? How do you know your shoulder is dislocated? I have never had one so I don't know what the symptoms are or how you feel. My Uncle was hunting alone and slid down a small hill and dislocated his shoulder and had to fix it himself, but he never said how he did it. I think this is why it has been on my mind. I would also ask if you have videos that talk about this kind of body repair where a person is by themself and they have to fix it themself? I have gone in and downloaded and Archived every one of your videos currently on YT so I can have them to study and watch.
He had the dude bend over, relax and put his fingertips under the top of his shoe (at the tips of his toes). Then Once he was relaxed he just sat up with the fingers in place under his toes. The movement just popped it back in. Watch the video again and pay attention to where his fingers were placed and the quick but relaxed movement as he pulled against his shoe. Hope this helps.
@@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens Thank you, yes that explains a lot. Thank you again for the information. For some reason I have really been concerned about what to do in case I come on scene where someone will have a dislocated shoulder or something will happen to me. So now i have an idea of what I could have do to help someone or myself if it happens.
@@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens I watched it again (a couple of times) now that I knew what to look for and concentrate on It made sense. Thank you again, I really appreciate it.
I dislocated mine a lot playing sports in high school many years ago. You know it's out because it hurts very badly and you can't move very much. I used to lay down flat on my back and rotate my body, leaving the arm still, it wold pop back in and feel great. I finally reached a point where it would pop out when waking up in the morning to stretch and had to have surgery. Now, I'm 60 y/o and it's worn out and have arthritis in the joint. Hope you never experience the feeling.
@@unknownhomesteader318 Oh no, I have never done this to myself. However I have an uncle this happened to when he was alone hunting. He had to fix it himself. I think when it happened he was in his late 70's but he did it. That has always been on the back of my mind. I was only asking in case it does happen to me or someone else I come across who needs help. It doesn't sound real bad but It's not fun either. I like that you can repair yourself if you know what you are doing. Thanks for the input. Every little bit helps.
Thank God I've seen this Video just a couple of months before i dislocated my shoulder in training, i quickly did the same move and it popped right back in. Just stay calm and let everything loose while doing it. Its still important to see a doc after that, the lebrum tears almost every time the shoulder pops out and a surgery for young active people is recommended. Thanks for putting out this amazing video
Similar to how I've put mine back in place a few times
That one is going in the first aid bank!
Dr Sheehan
I did this by accident once when I fell. Dislocated my shoulder but bent over to pick up my wallet and popped it back in. Problem is that my shoulder had a crack in it and popping it back in made it worse (corkscrew fracture I think they said), so have someone check it out even after you pop it back in.
Was the relocation painful? How bad was the fracture in terms of pain, I'm just curious. I've never broke a bone but I'm heavy enough that tripping properly could probably break or fracture my arm if I landed on it wrong(~270+), I'm very careful with my steps and footing because the cost of medical care would probably hurt way worse than the actual fracture.
@Potatotenkopf I live in Australia so didn't cost me anything... it felt like an intense stinging pain when it dislocated... it felt better when it popped back in but later it was an all over body ache starting from my shoulder... intensity kind of like if you get lightly tapped in the balls...it aches but you can work through it... I actually went back to work for an hour before deciding I needed to go to the hospital. Took about six to eight months to heal and still flares up from time to time.
@@Potatotenkopf instant relief when the shoulder is relocated in its socket… but when the dislocation initially happens the pain is excruciating.. feels like someone is touching your exposed nerve😮
Thank you so fucking much for posting this video
Watching this right now in the car with a minor annoying dislocation on the shoulder 😢😂
Sheenah
Very cool
Did he pull against his toes or just hold that position? Kinda hard to tell. Pretty cool either way
This looks like a fix for Posterior dislocation correct? What about Anterior dislocation? Please clarify so people don’t use this technic incorrectly!
Yeah typically an anterior dislocation would be rotated outward so you want to apply more rotational force to put it back in but this could still work for an anterior dislocation in some cases with a bit of modification to the technique
Działa wystawiłem bark na crossie i wstawiłem tym sposobem
Me at 4 yo suddenly got consciousness
I put mine in with a street sign lethal weapon style
No need for amy techniques, right now is my second time relocating it all by myself hahaha after dislocating it trying some push ups where u jump or whatever... kinda felt like it was not ready for that shock lol
did the old school way count down from three pop it in followed with a slap to the face
Yess
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I wish the guy's black hat wasnt Fing blocking the view!! Damn it! Current watching with a dislocated shoulder lol
I wish I had watched this before spending 45 minutes in a car and 7 hours in a waiting room. Does this work in both/all cases, where the shoulder is either in front or behind the joint?
only front
😢😣😣
I just done mine today after falling off the dirt scooters on got up with both hands I felt a pop on my right shoulder. Medical said they couldn’t find anything to put back in. But I do have immense stiffness and can’t really raise it much.
Any idea shoulder friends 😂 is it normal
Makes me wanna dislocate my shoulder right now and try
No you don’t 😂😂
what did he do? it was covered.
Perghhhhh really cool
I could not hear with all the background noise. How did he do it?
Relocated my shoulder about 4 times using this video 😂
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Had to pop my knee back I place once... wasn’t pretty with my leg pointing sideways.
Ask Rohit Sharma 😎🤣🤣💪🏼
Holy crap it worked.
A few seconds ago I think I dislocated my shoulder, I was moving it and I could hear the bones scraping each other, but now since I tried this. I no longer it it, yippee!
It's work 😄 l take live test it's work 💪
Wow
Ouch
I got mine back in by grabbing my wrist and pulling my arm in front of me
Too bad my er doc didnt know what he was doing and just moved my arm all over the place 3 times and couldn't get it, then sedated me and ripped me all up.
This hurt looking at it
I’m went to the hospital and they charged 3200$ I feel like an idiot
😅🤣
It works oh my god 😢😢😢😢😢🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😂😂😂
I can pop out and pop in my shoulder at will T_T I'm weird asf
Having your shoulder pop back in is orgasmic....one moment everything is wrong with the universe...the next moment all is well.
Usually holding something heavy in my hand and walking around a while will pop mine back in. Had to do this well over 50 times now.
Skinny had me nervous watching this 😬
Ouch