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Is this Monaco layout from Need For Speed better than the original?
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- Monaco has been featured in various video games, and it's always a joy when they take their own spin on the layout of the circuit. This layout presented is known as Riviera from Need For Speed - Shift 2: Unleashed; a high speed version of Monaco, which is a lot less technical than the original but sure is very fun to drive one.
Do you think this video game version of Monaco is better than the original layout?
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I don't know how faithful it is to the geography of the place (first half is obviously identical and I like it too), but THIS Monaco is just magnificient. Perfect for today's F1 cars, and yet challenging for drivers. It reminds me of Long Beach but even better.
long beach, but with 0 heavy braking zones, every single part of the track is fast and flowing, following would be a nightmare and overtaking harder than in the monaco we have now, atleast in my opinion, where are you meant to get alongside here? and the drs zones has been made alot less useful, and im not sure drs on that back "straight" would be all that safe lol, track looks insanely fun to hotlap though, like a rollercoaster
I have no way to go back and look at my play stats, but, I reckon I put about 50 hours into this track alone, it is just perfect. Long Beach + Monaco + a little bit of Brands Hatch = AMAZING.
Yea, until every car sky rocket through the air on the main straight 😅😂
If you go straight you end in a parking place with no exit 😅
I'm not entirely sure about the back straight, but on Google Maps it does seem to be actual roads in Monaco.
For those asking, these roads do not exist in real Montecarlo. Maybe in Porto Corsa
ok so...they got saint devote, beau rivage, massenet right.. and dare i say even the casino (( even if the layout is from the opposite side of the roundoabout/fountain. Mirabeau Haute, Hotel Hairpin and Mirabeau Bas are non existant, and .. the.. rest is .. mirrored...
@@ElMundoDeHadesOK from Mirabeau Haute onward it is pure sci-fi
@@championsreid7529 pretty much yea hhhahahaha
Up until he did a Rosberg it's very close, after that I don't know .
@Emiliano VR they would build on the real circuit if they could, imagine destroying existent buildings
Even in this video it looks just as fast and terrifying as it does on NFS. This is a really good layout for todays cars
NFS Porsche unleashed right ?
@@francismarfiuza7165 no NFS Shift
This would be idiotic, like oval racing
0:49 a single understeer or snap and we will see another Senna Imola incident here 💀
This layout reminds me of macau, it suites well for GT cars imo
That was just not an inchident, it's milechident.
Ive checked in google maps thoroughly, and after the F1 part (just before mirabeau) the track is completely faithful to real life, after that they used references and somehow followed the shape of some roads, but its completely impossible to have this layout in real life. Its a shame tho cause its a banger of a Layout
So it's not completely faithful to reallife, just use google street views to realise whats happening after the casino, or the way they connected road that doesnt connect or even ressemble their real life counterpart
@@Amauvy Do you know how to read?
Do you use the word completely correctly? @@sergiofletcher7567
I like it but would be insanely dangerous
Why? How is this more dangerous than the current layout?
@@jaromirr7720 Could you imagine hitting that wall at 0:49 after taking the corner? 320 kph in the concrete (or whatever hard material builds that)
@@jaromirr7720 The elevation changes, and lack of room to complete overtakes safely - there is a lot of fast, sweeping, flowing corners with not much room for error (literally walls around). It's an amazing track for hotlaps/time trial IMO, but imagine 20 of the world's best drivers trying to jockey for position in some of these sections (specifically sector 2 and then the beginning of sector 3)
Isn't the original dangerous already?
the original isn't nearly as fast as this layout. There's a lot of tight corners and a chicane after the tunnel which would be the longest section of the track, that definitely mitigates some of the risk. That said, street tracks are always gonna be more dangerous.
Just imagine a car catching air over that huge crest... absolut flyer
Seems very cool, but there would be several fatalities after a race with that speed in such tight corners with no runnoff. But looks like fun for sure
that wall at 0:49 is instant death lmao
it's like the baku wall
@r1zmy except in Baku, you're going much slower. If you fuck up in the Castle section of Baku, your race is likely over. You fuck up in this section of Monaco and your life is likely over fr
There's also NFS Porsche Unleashed in 2000 that had a monaco version (called Monte Carlo Circuit 1) which was close to the real layout
In Shift 2 also there is a track similar to the layout of the real Circuit of Monaco, but with no chicanes and with two long parallel straights connected by a hairpin in the place of La Rascasse
Ah yes the Riviera Monte Grande. The track is wide and can fit up to three cars, the Sainte Devote corner is a straight uphill curve, the Casino Square parking chicane, no Swimming Pole Chicane, and extended La Rascasse through the port.
@@hirokishinguji Nice depiction man! Very detailed
I like it. Nice elevation changes with some nice corners.
Και ποιος να ήξερε ότι το Μονακό μπορούσε να γίνει ακόμα πιο εντυπωσιακό
if it weren't for the insane logistics and setup time it takes to get a city layout ready, then yes, of course this would work. Many times they spoke about monaco having a "joker" lap with an additional part of the track to be mandatory used once per race, in order to facilitate overtaking, but this would be a go kart racetrack.
that downhill section on the backstraight is impossible, the first issue is its not even in Monaco, lol. The second issue is that the ground isnt like that, you'd have to completely redesign the landscape to make that work
@@amarokdcs1062 you are right. this is just daydreaming anyway. monaco will always be like its today. They should use smaller cars or sth like that. Race distance is different, protocols are different, might as well use different cars that offer more fun xD
Taking a Works Lamborghini Gallardo on this layout was insane, I can't imagine an F1 car there. Great video!
Bro this layout is insane 🤯.....it could be really good for F1.....really good idea👏👏👏
It would basically be the Jeddah of Monaco
They employed some artistic license, though. The roads don't connect like that in real life.
lol that exit of the tunnel would get some driver killed
@@Obi-WanKannabis saw that too there's a random intersection barrier piece sticking up and there is no runoff. Basically what everyone was complaining about Jeddah safety/Miami/Baku
I dunno how good this would actually be for F1. Following would be a nightmare and there would be almost no overtakes.
This layout is so good and looks like a massive roller coaster, with adrenalin and emotion.
I think this also was used in NFS Porsche Unleashed too.
More like straight copied from NFS:PU. Still a nice throwback from a very underlooked NFS game (or every game from 97-00 era) and there're five monaco layouts in a game itself.
@@nikitamedvedev4696people think NFS was about tuner culture since the start LOL. As if when they made Underground, 90% of the fanbase forgot the 97 - 02 era even existed
@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious my first ever NFS was HP, great game! i can't tell how many hours i've spent on it!
@@nikitamedvedev4696 TIL that NFS PU had this track. I played that game in PS1 and never hit that track tho.
@@FALL-LAFF-7477 I played the PC version and there are 5 layouts.
shift 2: unleashed my beloved
I love this Layout
There are other Monaco layouts in NFS Porsche... dude, game of childhood
Insane layout. Would love it if they ever do a double header on Monaco or just a layout swap.
That tunnel exit is an absolute death wall
Nice track, I love that descent before the tunnel, it's just amazing!!
I do think the old layout through Sainte Devote should be kept, just because the cars are arriving to this corner with much higher speeds now, and also it would allow for a better overtaking opportunity because of the braking zone
this is actually soo magnificent and even suits for the current type of cars
Thanks for the great video! I really studied it against the map, and just a couple of the roads aren't quite as reality which I think would make it unworkable. However, it is so close to real, I wish they could do this!
Can you make a Monaco track that will pass onto "Avenue de la quarantaine" until the end tunnel and back to the pit straight from the "Quai Antoine 1er". That will be great!
Looks great and certainly tackles so of the issues. For me it doesn't address overtaking though - can't see an obvious overtaking spot.
More places to pass. Would've been better in daylight. The night kind of made it feel claustrophobic but definitely faster than current layout.
WOAH, what an incredible circuit!
Love your videos, good job! NFS Shift 2 has awesome street layouts, like Riviera variations, Miami Bayside Run and London Whitehall Drive (do a video at this last one if possible).😉
But very important to say that this is not a possible layout. Monaco streets aren't this large and this "backstraight" downhill and tunnel are fictional.
This gigantic straight would be insane in Monaco, look at this descent man, it's unimaginable
with so many blind high speed corners it would be insanely dangerous
Yep, absolute death trap.
Did you guys discover what a street circuit is for the first time or something? Every single one of them (those on the calendar and otherwise) has blind corners, both high and low speed.
@@sulphurous2656 brother, look at Baku, look at Singapore, and then look at this. This is even deadlier than Macau and F1 don't race at Macau.
@@sulphurous2656 every street circuits (and permanent circuits) on the calendar have run off areas at the end of high speed sections so that drivers don't crash into a concrete wall at 320+kph. Don't try to be the smart guy when you have no clue how actual F1 tracks are made
@@blazi2293 Nobody said anything about runoffs.
I remember this layout, i played it on my xbox 360, great track. F1 should consider it!
I like this layout but for me something mixed would be perfect !!!
Nice video bro!!
0:38 I swear the car was gonna go airborne bruh
Omg! I played this game so much and was never able to conect this track to monaco.
Safety nightmare for drivers😂
This is insane.
i used to jam this game all the time back in the day
I think if it has a race in there, someone would be have a big crash lol, but nice work, i loved this circuit layout.
Great , i think it solved some insane overtaking problem
hope i get to try this someday
Test Drive: Ferrari Racing Legends was made by the same devs and it also includes this version.
Funnily enough that game also has bog-standard Monaco but it's ridiculously wide and has an extra straight at the end lmao
glad to see that someone remembers this great game
This layout is much better than original
Man, doing this track on night while using Helmet Cam, is scary.
Especially the downhill before the turn, have to turn pretty early, but not too much to clear the corner without going into the wall.
Interesting, esp. the big drop, but to dangerous.
well a wider track and that's always and adventaje for overtaking and more free traffic for qualy
This track gives me Shift 2 Unleashed PTSD because of how hard it actually is because of the game's physic and manovrability
Basically, input delay + ultra intense steering response. Neither makes the handling model more realistic nor makes it more fun
this too would be good for the fantasy season 2023-2024 than original monaco circuit
Looks creepy at night
I would say no since theres no heavy breaking zone but the width of the track does grant some chance to overtake via slip stream or maybe drs
This layout would surely make races more interesting, but that's too dangerous for the speed that the today f1 cars would get over there imo. With some adjustments would be fire tho🔥🔥
In 2029 is gonna be the 100th anniversary since the first Monaco's GP. They should make a night race for that occasion.
There's gonna have to be at least 2-3 chicanes on the back straight to slow things down, reminds me of the old Hockenheimring
While it looks cool, the G's of going over that hill is gonna be nauseating and that fullspeed chicane just after the tunnel is gonna kill somebody
That lemon-shaped track (that appeared in Shift 2 as well) also has deadly high-speed chicanes and no one ever went against it, sooooo...
@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious Enna Pergusa?
@@lotuwei yeah, that one. It reminds me of a lemon... for some reason
@@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious no one went against it probably because it was never designed for F1
@@lotuwei there's this factor too 😅
no tunnel no rascasse?
Well it actually has straights that are long enough so yeah it’s better
Looks fan-bleeding-tastic! That drop just before the tunnel is amazing!
from a pure recreation perspective, the devs did a really good job making the track- there's just enough bits from the real world to go "hang on, isn't this monaco?" but also have it be a completely unique layout
i looked it up at maps and its not possible to do it like that i believe. the south part exists but there is no such corner on the east end and the back route doesnt exist that way either... What i suggest is that after Casino normally youd follow av des spelungues to mirabeau but instead you turn into av de la madone into av the grande bretagne wich leads us all the way to Bd du larvotto wich leads us torwards portier and the tunnel
Porsche Unleashed had a handful of Monte Carlo layouts as well
The Cote d'Azur in Shift 2 Unleashed although geographically correct but to avoid the licensing issues with Monte Carlo, SMS made Monaco a fictional track by changing some track layouts and made it wider. Though in pCars the name is still fictional but almost as close as Monaco. I had a gameplay of that track in my channel.
By the way that track is called the Riviera Casino.
Oh verstapps got to drive it ! Neat!
2nd part of the track looks nothing like Monaco though
This track scared me to death when I was a kid 😂
amazing
Not bad, I love it so much
Me encanto el sonido del monoplaza
After watching this I'd definitely like to see a night race at monaco
From the beginning of the lap to 12 seconds in the lap it is very similar to real life (I think)
I was driving this version by track in Ferrari Racing Legends
Was the map directly downloaded with minor differences of course from NFS Porsche 2000? Looks very very similar :D
Damn this is incredible. I love that big dip in the middle of the track.
try NFS: Porsche 2000 layouts one day :D
And talking about this version of Monaco (Riviera), if they can bring the real life layout but extended, do you mind try it??? By extended i mean, instead of the La Rascasse harpin, it goes left onto a harpin and then come's to La Rascasse to finish the lap. Of course, ditching the swiming pool section witch is a pain in the ass and, it might be controversial, the nouvelle chicane and replace with a DRS section from the tunnel and the closest as a chicane it can be, that it doesn't need any braking, only full throttle on the DRS Zone until the braking zone to the swiming pool. Then the normal aproach to La Rascasse they can use it as a new entrance to the pits. Then the pit exit is a very disputable topic but i prefer it to return from the 2000s when they make a wall to divide in between the one who stays out and then who's exiting from the pits and make turn 1 a much easier turn
It's actually cool and it's waaaaaaaaaaay faster than the current one, but you have to be careful at the tunnel exit
Those S'es r terrifying
Larger and heavier cars or not, this looks like a joy to drive. But does this rendition actually line up with real world geometry?
I don't believe it does
I think the original Monaco track with night race will be super great race
Now.. if only we could *create* that back Straight sections...
Monaco is beautiful and incredibly challenging like it is. This circuit simply is something else. Furthermore Monaco is the only real slow circuit in F1, and a world championship should have a calendar as more various as possible.
The night setting made me feel it was a Monaco in Carmageddon or GTA: Vice City. It's a fun layout, but I miss the harbour stuff, and that would probably make it a no-go from the PoV of the race coordinators, as the harbour provides a lot of expensive mooring for rich race-goers.
hola Y acá estamos... excelente video está Genial muy bueno
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Could be a fun Mario kart Track lol :D ^^ Nice Drive :)
Is there a mod with the Monaco layout from NFS Porsche on PC?
they do it for the yachts which cost like 12k per ticket
let him cook....
instead of one overtaking spot theres zero :D epic win
to which ever track max goes he always goes purple and green sector
This confuses my brain so much like I can see the similarities and yet everything is misplaced and it throws me off
Sign me up
Can you do it at the Virgílio Távora International Circuit in Brazil?
Looks like macau, a fast track with no mergin for error and barriers waiting for you to make a mistake every corner.
Yeap. It's super fast and finally found a good spot to overtake 😆
FIA needs to see this
as a track it is better, but the real Monaco, with all of its prestige and history, can't ever really be replaced. It's up there with spa, Silverstone, Monza, and others. I'd like to keep the same track layout, but widened a little bit. We obviously can't do that, but I can still wish. What would you change with current Monaco to make it more drivable or better?
The problem isn't the track, it's the car.
I think this might be better than the original. Although it feels like a F1 Racer is diving through the alleyways behind the bulidings.