The perfect drag racing video. Each car is announced with identical stats. Skips the burnout and staging and gets right to the launch. Ends with ET and MPH. Subscribed.
The same the 69 rr also had an AMC rebel machine for sale and I tried put past the ole man he wasnt havin none of..its the price of the car when you 18 got cash...lol..its the fucking insurance..lol..he was correct about bout that..n pulled a fast with insurance guy...to " insure the 75..lol
Factory performance, very competitive to the point of reaction time reflex. 60 ft times must have been interesting to see. All that torque wrapped in sculptured metal.. breathing air making fire.
THISE WERE INCREDIBLE DAYS! I bought my FIRST car in 83, it was a 70 Dodge Challenger 383 4 speed, I paid 400 dollars for it. My second & third cars were bought in 84 , 71 Buick GS 350 4 speed (150.00 paid) and a 72 Dodge Charger 400 4 speed, I paid 375.00 and a set of Cragar ss wheels for it. In the summer of 84, I installed more clutch kits then most men will in their life times. That was you could walk into a salvage yard and pull a BBC, BB Mopar, and pay 75.00 for it.
In most of the cases I see here they would drop a second with headers slicks and tune which would be more realistic. Most of these cars are straight off the street. With pansy ass traction control etc these cars surely feel fast when you are under 14 second quarter..... imo. Now a days you need to be a video game type to be a good driver at the drag strip rather than nailing your shift point and powershifting.
@@ztwntyn8 agreed. Those days is where people actually built their own cars. These days, it's built by shops. Different times, different skills. Not all though. But most.
Great to see these old stockers run! I got my license in 66, these were the cars around then. You would blow through the 7.50 or 7.75 stock rear tires in about 1,000 miles then go to a Chevron station and get some 9.00 Atlas Bucron soft synthetic rubber tires. If you had those and a 4 speed, any muscle car of the 60s should run under 15 seconds without low gears or speed equipment, provided you were willing to fry the clutch.
I love that there is footage like this available so I can show some people what these original era muscle cars actually ran in their time period. Many people only see the modified versions of these types of drivetrains in today’s world and equate that into them running that originally and that’s just not the case. I can’t even count how many times I’ve debated with people that today’s base model pony/muscle cars are by and large faster than the top of the line original pony/muscle cars that were sold. Today the likes of vehicles like an EcoBoost Mustang, 2.0T Camaro, etc will outperform the baddest muscle of yesteryear despite being massively outgunned as far as engine size and power production.
This is what we did back in the 70s and 80s. We cruised the wheels off on the weekends and raced on Sunday's....after we raced on the back roads at midnight!
Loved it!! Awesome video as I grew up during these times so this was just one big memory!! I have a 71 LS5 4 spd coupe Vette and figured it would run @14. Crazy thing is back then we always said no replacement for displacement. Doesn’t work well today as many passenger cars can run circles around these classic muscle cars.
I think some of these engines must have a higher lift cam and possibly port work - those low 13 sec times are much faster than factory specs- those 426 hemi cars were flyin- back then low 13 sec 1/4 mile time was really dam fast - shoot it’s still pretty quick today- that 428 cougar was hauling ass - great video- I was a teenager in the 80s and a hot GTO Judge ruled the streets in my small town-
Mino's F'bird was a light, no option rare '68 RA II and built to be a NHRA stocker. I know the car well. Not at all the same as these mostly stock street cars shown here.
Jim Mino's Ram Air II 400 was a beast! He did every trick in the book to make that 400 run 12s in the Pure Showroom Stock classes. He massaged the heads quite a bit, valve jobs, porting, polishing, extrude honed the intake and also parasitic drag tricks, weight saving tricks. He did it all lol.
Blue printed Bird perhaps, it was a marvel. That Black 421 tri-power Catalina 2+2 Sport Coupe, was a stand out also. I owned an Aquia Marine colored one, 4 speed w/close ratio Muncie, 3.90 safety track, once you set the progressive linkage to optimum you could show off and fry a new clutch just power shifting. I got so fast it sounded like a 4 speed auto it would slip. outer two carbs would come on and overwhelmed the brakes and suspension. Had to back up the motor mounts with chains. Wore the counter gear bearing out prematurely. Just outstanding torque.
Sub'd your channel because of the video time capsule... My former 2+2 Catalina was ordered by a young man out of Bowie Md. Soon after it was delivered his number came up in draft for Vietnam. He didn't make it from there. I found it down a long dirt road, under the big blue fur, resting with the frame on the ground , three inches of pine needles... So your paying respect to those muscle cars that some service veterans may have owned.. that didn't return.
@@nedaCFilms Not so - Jim's RA II was stock - no port and polished heads etc. all proven in the tear down after beating that 1969 Hemi Roadrunner for the Big Block Class Championship at The 1987 Super Car Showdown :)
@@1Bandit455 right here is an article from 1989 that breaks down the “NHRA blueprinted” engine specs www.motortrend.com/features/fireflight-november-1989-982-1410-44-1/
When GM was going through bankruptcy, their original proposal was to keep Pontiac as a niche performance brand. But the government said no. GM had a choice of keeping Pontiac or Buick. Buick won out because of their high sales overseas. It came down to profit in the end. GM still owns the trademark and rights to Pontiac so there could be a chance that Pontiac comes back, but don’t hold your breath.
@@CamaroAmx You can thank the Obama regime for that. He put the American auto industry into bankruptcy with astronomical oil prices which his epa caused by not allowing us to use our own oil therefore causing gas to be $4.00 a gallon, giving the foreign gas sippers the advantage because nobody could afford to drive performance cars or SUVS anymore. Then he so graciously offered them a "bailout" in exchange for the privilege of gutting their companies. GM lost Pontiac and Oldsmobile, Ford lost Mercury, and Chrysler lost Plymouth thanks to this moron telling them how to balance their budget when he couldn't balance his own checkbook. No we have his shoeshine boy about to do the same thing all over again. Say goodbye to your Hellcats, LS1s, and Cobra Mustangs
@@mikeadcock1592 except for the fact that the automakers were hurting while bush was in office and asked for government loans 3 months before Obama took office.
@@CamaroAmx Ah, Presidents Obama saved the car industry after the Bush recession just like President Bidden is saving this economy after the trump recession.
@@carolbates6886 ah yes. because the current presidents political affiliation is the only thing that can effect the entire economy of the US and majority of the world. thats as dumb as people the blame the president for gas prices.
The orange 1970 GTO Judge near the end, very similar to the car actor Warren Oates drove in the movie “Two Lane Blacktop.” Millions of dollars of rare muscle cars in terms of today’s market value.
I was actively building hemi's during that time...and it would break your heart to know that the 'muscle car mags' and the OEMs (as well as the dealerships) were doing ALL THEY COULD to 'get people to crush those old gas guzzlers'...the 'new muscle' was Dodge Rampages and IROC-Z's...heartbreaking to look back at all that carnage, now...
Now this is the most realistic drag racing of factory stock cars I have seen. As you can see almost every Factory stock car was very close in quarter mile time with the kind of rubber they were working with back then. Bone stock like these cars are usually comes down to the better driver. This is where I think a lot of BS came from about Factory cars. Most anybody who had one of these cars that raced on the street had taller gears better carburetion better camshaft they were no longer Factory stock. Also add to the fact that a lot of drag racing on the streets was from light to light. A lot of people didn't believe me back in the day I had a 1970 302 2 barrel single exhaust Mustang all that was done to it it was tuned on an oscilloscope Advanced curve in the distributor, bigger radiator, and bigger Jets and some trickery to the two-barrel carburetor. I would race some well-known 13-second cars and either keep up with them or beat them by a fender. No one would believe me they had to see engine for themselves after every race. So I finally put a sticker between the two tail lights that read 302? Me and my auto shop teacher who was a professional drag racer with a 400 Firebird help do some of the trickery I believe that's why the car was so fast for what it was. I have to thank him for that. Friday and Saturday nights you Cruise looking for girls. Then go to the local McDonald's on Telegraph Road and watch the big boys race for big money. I'm talking some of these cars came fresh from Detroit Dragway. I saw Many with wheels up in the air. The best of times.🇺🇸👍
Was even a rare sight back in 1987 lol. These cars were always locked away in garages and only came out for Concours event car shows. Although speaking of "Concours", some of these cars (including the Daytona) were running the "Concours class" that day which is more strict than "Pure Stock" class.
Like it or not, this was how it really was back in 1987 Face it guys with no such thing as legal sticky street tires and such. NOTICE: ... as a whole, the Buick GS Stage 1 cars DOMINATED. This website of Street Muscle never features these fine underdog SLEEPERS. The GS Stage 1.
A rare RAII " ... I was there when he raced it at Salem in Ohio. A fully built blueprinted NHRA so-called "stocker". Nothing like the other street cars that raced back then As a whole. the Buick GS's DOMINATED. . .
Man, I was THERE in Ohio. That fine little 'bird was admitted to be an "NHRA Stocker". That's a big difference beyond being factory stock. Esp. the CAMSHAFT for any "NHRA STOCK" car. I remember a valve cover coming off. Yes! This was no NHRA race so no complete teardown could be demanded or was really necessary. This was indeed a fully prepped NHRA Stocker and it arrived on a TRAILER. That being a first year for this event, many other cars like ALL of the Buicks there were driven in. Still, Mino is to be commended for a fine running NHRA Stocker. Those RA ii 'birds were very light, too. Mino's car, of course) had no power options, was radio deleted and such as that. But that was legal and ok. Most of the other entrants just came with their street machines that year. So they were humorously disadvantaged. .... Larry Rose @@1Bandit455
Those were the days....the smells, the sounds, the people, the atmosphere........the actual work/love/pride that went into that, was America in it's finest hour.....Nowadays.... it's a joke...... give me money, because you're rich, and I'll build you a rocket car.....that will dust everything.......sickening........ Please keep the American bad ass cars/heritage/way of life alive,...
Put headers on that chevetteeee...shift kit it's light that's key 🔑 start light buildaround that make it a sleeper it will surprise alot folks lol 😆 😆 lol
Thumbs Up ! I redid that mustang comment so your reply went away, Sorry about that bud. Anyway Thumbs Up on this video also. Peace and have a good day now.
@@jts9120 "Not very often" you even find a Buick GS Stage 1 on the drag strip compared to the myriad of Mopars always present. Was such, often it becomes matter of attrition.
In 1987 my pop refused to let buy a 67 gt 350 and a 69 r.r...and 2000 grand then was alot dough for a 20 year old car..the real reason was apparent after he took for 12.3 second " test drive:...I remeber wher told me to this day.." kid i dont wanna bury you..too much car for you...lol..he was right...I still got a a nice tame automatic 440 car..a 75 cordoba..and I loved it. Lol sometimes dads are right bout some stuff..lol
When I was 16 I saw a white and black Mach 1 in Circuit City parking lot and Hey Mistered the guy. He said he would sell it to me for what I had in my pocket. It was a survivor. Fella was old as dirt. I had 600ish on me and my Dad said no. He said I’d kill myself lol
Remember these tracks have no prep...It's like racing in a parking lot or road,zero traction...plus skinny tires of the day etc...Most cars are 2 seconds off what they could run..
Awesome. Except for a few of them, this is a lot more representative of how these cars actually ran stock verses the "pure stock" drag races of today. A lot of very rare cars here... how often do you see a basically stock Charger Daytona running the 1/4 lol. Would like to have bought all of them back in 87, they'd be worth a fortune today!
When it comes down to the 426 HEMI, 454 LS6 and 455 Stage 1 engines, it all depends on model, options and driver usually. All 3 of these engines can beat the other on any given day.
I have a feeling some of these would be a bit faster with some tuning and/or a gear change. My first car was a 1978 Camaro, and that ran 14.3 with 3.73 in the 10 bolt.
Some of these cars were running a "concours class" and some a "pure stock class" and had strict factory showroom stock inspections, especially the concours cars. Many of them were show cars. Keep in mind that this was filmed 30+yrs ago
@@nedaCFilms I understand, it is probably also a lot of them that maybe not even is that interested in or trying to go that fast, just like today. More about the cruising and just driving it. They dont even know what their ignition timing is. I think sometimes maybe those kind of people have more fun in the end though.
This shows you how much cars really improved over the last 50+ years. Modern day muscle cars with similar big ci. motors average 1/4 mile within the 10 second range. 2018 Dodge Demon holds a 9.65 second track record in stock trim! A modern day Honda Civic Type R runs 13.6 seconds and the engine is almost 1/4 size of a big 426 hemi! And some modern cars can hit well over 200mph top speed where the old schools only had enough gear to top out at 120mph.
Yeah Jim knew every little secret there was. The heads had a serious valve job done as well as porting, polishing and extrude honing of heads, intake and whatever else he could do to gain the edge.
I'm curious where this even took place. I heard the name of one of the drivers was Tom Kelley. So, I'm curious if that's the same Tom Kelley who owns dealerships currently in Fort Wayne Indiana.
@@nedaCFilms I asked because I hear a lot of people say the GS stage 1 was the Hemi killer, but by watching this video, I wouldn't say that's 100% accurate. And I love the GS stage 1s and the Hemi.
13 and 12 second 1/4 miles out of 50+ year old cars was fast as hell lol. Keep in mind the majority of these cars were running “Concours Class” - 100% Showroom Stock.
They made anywhere from 10% to 40% less power than they were rated for. The majority of American cars had gross horsepower rating compared to net horsepower, which we use now. Because of that, a lot of muscle cars had 50 - 100 horsepower less than they said.
Sloppy suspensions and bias ply tires are mostly the blame. You gotta get the power to the ground. Gearing could come into play as well. “Net” ratings began in 1972, meaning all accessories/belts hooked up; a roughly 20% power loss on paper. A 375 horse engine would now rate 300 horse.
@@jts9120 Oh, and by the way, you didn't see the entire video here. It was cut short. And the saddle brown 1970 GS was a real Stage 1. The owner is from Edinboro, PA. It runs like a Stage 1 should, although he sandbagged a few times at this event.
Only 3 Buicks there. MANY Mopars. If this video had gone to the end, you''d seen that the Buick GS's posted the quickest times overall. I was there. @@jts9120
@@stacydornan9765 Really? You saw 37 of them? Converted 427 Nova from 396's'? Pls. tell us more. Like where? And they were sent where for "upgrades"? To whom? So the cars were nowhere near factory stock as these were. BTW, nowadays, documentation is everything.
@@LR-my2di I'm in London Ontario Canada car was appraised at 13500 in 1986,said it was one of 27 ever built,was a 4spd but it was removed by previous owner to race automatic was installed
@@stacydornan9765 Ok Stacy ... but my questions were not answered as to who did what you claimed to so many of these Nova 396's (and where all of those 396's ended up). There is absolutely "zero" documentation that I can find on this, and I've owned 7 big block Novas and been into these Novas since 1969. One was a rare '69 Yenko 427 Nova, but that is not a factory car like the ones in this video. Neither is any other 427 Nova. BTW, when my Yenko was stock, but with Hooker headers that came with the Yenko conversion, I still had big trouble outrunning those heavier GS Buicks like those you see here in this video.
You need to slow down the narration just bit since your already giving the time before they finish you have time slow down so we can hear you more clearly
This is the best dragracing film I have found on CZcams in a long time. Great camera angles, information thanks for posting
At least they dont have all those idiots walking around on the track at the starting line .
Good content, even if it's 240p resolution 🙃
The perfect drag racing video. Each car is announced with identical stats. Skips the burnout and staging and gets right to the launch. Ends with ET and MPH. Subscribed.
Virgil is the best!
Think of the money these cars are worth today! Dudes racing a freekin talledega, hemis, and Shelby's!
And in today's dollar I couldnt afford of those cars..the 69 and 67..hell even a nice 75 doba is kind pricey too..lol
The same the 69 rr also had an AMC rebel machine for sale and I tried put past the ole man he wasnt havin none of..its the price of the car when you 18 got cash...lol..its the fucking insurance..lol..he was correct about bout that..n pulled a fast with insurance guy...to " insure the 75..lol
I wonder how many of them are still out there and in good condition
Not to mention a couple SD 455 cars including an ultra rare formula firebird!
I wonder how much they would sell for in 87.
Those 426 Hemis are absolutely insane!
All the Chevy and Ford loyalist wondering why they were always losing back then... I was a Buick/Ponitac/Olds 455 guy myself...
lol, bah schemi-buscemi the real badasses here are the orange a12 bee, firebird 400 ram 2 and that t-37 455
Didn't Firebird lay down the lowest time?
Best video of old muscle cars racing I've ever seen!
Hump DAY!!!
Great announcer, speaks clearly and gives all the info😮
Virgil is a legend! ❤
Now that's the kind of drag racing I grew up with.
Yeah bud, it sure was a great time to be a part of.
Factory performance, very competitive to the point of reaction time reflex. 60 ft times must have been interesting to see. All that torque wrapped in sculptured metal.. breathing air making fire.
Back in the day there was a muscle car at every stop light or stop sign. Fun times!!!!!!
THISE WERE INCREDIBLE DAYS!
I bought my FIRST car in 83, it was a 70 Dodge Challenger 383 4 speed, I paid 400 dollars for it.
My second & third cars were bought in 84 , 71 Buick GS 350 4 speed (150.00 paid) and a 72 Dodge Charger 400 4 speed, I paid 375.00 and a set of Cragar ss wheels for it. In the summer of 84, I installed more clutch kits then most men will in their life times. That was you could walk into a salvage yard and pull a BBC, BB Mopar, and pay 75.00 for it.
To think that was FAST back then. Either way.... love it.
In most of the cases I see here they would drop a second with headers slicks and tune which would be more realistic. Most of these cars are straight off the street. With pansy ass traction control etc these cars surely feel fast when you are under 14 second quarter..... imo. Now a days you need to be a video game type to be a good driver at the drag strip rather than nailing your shift point and powershifting.
@@ztwntyn8 agreed. Those days is where people actually built their own cars. These days, it's built by shops. Different times, different skills. Not all though. But most.
A lot of these cars were running a concours class and had to be 100% factory showroom stock
Still fast tho
It wasn’t fast back then it’s a super stock class
This is really cool. All old school muscle cars doing their thing. Sweet!👍
Great to see these old stockers run! I got my license in 66, these were the cars around then. You would blow through the 7.50 or 7.75 stock rear tires in about 1,000 miles then go to a Chevron station and get some 9.00 Atlas Bucron soft synthetic rubber tires. If you had those and a 4 speed, any muscle car of the 60s should run under 15 seconds without low gears or speed equipment, provided you were willing to fry the clutch.
Yes sir, tires, clutch and brakes.. collateral consumables... Lol
That track was like fly paper...
This is my dads video from the 80s haven’t seen it since I was a kid love hearing his voice in it. still have the original tapes his company made :)
Virgil is the best❤️
I love that there is footage like this available so I can show some people what these original era muscle cars actually ran in their time period. Many people only see the modified versions of these types of drivetrains in today’s world and equate that into them running that originally and that’s just not the case. I can’t even count how many times I’ve debated with people that today’s base model pony/muscle cars are by and large faster than the top of the line original pony/muscle cars that were sold. Today the likes of vehicles like an EcoBoost Mustang, 2.0T Camaro, etc will outperform the baddest muscle of yesteryear despite being massively outgunned as far as engine size and power production.
This is what we did back in the 70s and 80s. We cruised the wheels off on the weekends and raced on Sunday's....after we raced on the back roads at midnight!
They were amazing times...
Still stalk the backroads in my modern muscle car
I love those cougar eliminators
Loved it!! Awesome video as I grew up during these times so this was just one big memory!! I have a 71 LS5 4 spd coupe Vette and figured it would run @14. Crazy thing is back then we always said no replacement for displacement. Doesn’t work well today as many passenger cars can run circles around these classic muscle cars.
You'd probably be mid 13's if it hooks...
I think some of these engines must have a higher lift cam and possibly port work - those low 13 sec times are much faster than factory specs- those 426 hemi cars were flyin- back then low 13 sec 1/4 mile time was really dam fast - shoot it’s still pretty quick today- that 428 cougar was hauling ass - great video- I was a teenager in the 80s and a hot GTO Judge ruled the streets in my small town-
Great video , cool to see these cars running from back in the day, I was 9 in 1987 and was mad about muscle cars these cars were only 17 years old
Dan Jensen and his T37 have been a legendary Pontiac team for a long long time.
Where has this channel been all my life? I love this.
Thanks!
That '68 Firebird really kicked some ass!
Jim Mino and his Ram-Air Firebird were both legends in the ‘80s!
Where has this channel been all my life? I love this.. So much iron to get down that track. Love it!.
Thanks so much bud! Be sure to subscribe, there’s literally 100s of videos from the ‘80s and ‘90s on the channel!
So many of these names I used to read about in Muscle Car Review. That Mino bird was fast as hell.
Mino's F'bird was a light, no option rare '68 RA II and built to be a NHRA stocker. I know the car well. Not at all the same as these mostly stock street cars shown here.
At 3144 lbs. and no options, it should have been! ... Larry Rose
Nothing like that 68 Firebird!
Jim Mino's Ram Air II 400 was a beast! He did every trick in the book to make that 400 run 12s in the Pure Showroom Stock classes. He massaged the heads quite a bit, valve jobs, porting, polishing, extrude honed the intake and also parasitic drag tricks, weight saving tricks. He did it all lol.
Blue printed Bird perhaps, it was a marvel.
That Black 421 tri-power Catalina 2+2 Sport Coupe, was a stand out also. I owned an Aquia Marine colored one, 4 speed w/close ratio Muncie, 3.90 safety track, once you set the progressive linkage to optimum you could show off and fry a new clutch just power shifting. I got so fast it sounded like a 4 speed auto it would slip. outer two carbs would come on and overwhelmed the brakes and suspension. Had to back up the motor mounts with chains. Wore the counter gear bearing out prematurely.
Just outstanding torque.
Sub'd your channel because of the video time capsule... My former 2+2 Catalina was ordered by a young man out of Bowie Md. Soon after it was delivered his number came up in draft for Vietnam. He didn't make it from there. I found it down a long dirt road, under the big blue fur, resting with the frame on the ground , three inches of pine needles... So your paying respect to those muscle cars that some service veterans may have owned.. that didn't return.
@@nedaCFilms Not so - Jim's RA II was stock - no port and polished heads etc. all proven in the tear down after beating that 1969 Hemi Roadrunner for the Big Block Class Championship at The 1987 Super Car Showdown :)
@@1Bandit455 right here is an article from 1989 that breaks down the “NHRA blueprinted” engine specs www.motortrend.com/features/fireflight-november-1989-982-1410-44-1/
love old school racing.....ain't nothing like it..
Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed it.
Thank you
I remember this racing back then it was on hot rod or another magazine 33 years ago sure time fly fast
Awesome video!!! Looking forward to seeing more!
We've uploaded a bunch more Muscle Car Drags (1987) videos!
The REAL thing!! Thanks for posting!! We want more, we want more!!...
There’s many more on the channel #MuscleCarTimeMachine
Thanks
COOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!! Im Loving it!!!!
Thanks!
Great video
I wish they could bring back Pontiac
When GM was going through bankruptcy, their original proposal was to keep Pontiac as a niche performance brand. But the government said no. GM had a choice of keeping Pontiac or Buick. Buick won out because of their high sales overseas. It came down to profit in the end. GM still owns the trademark and rights to Pontiac so there could be a chance that Pontiac comes back, but don’t hold your breath.
@@CamaroAmx You can thank the Obama regime for that. He put the American auto industry into bankruptcy with astronomical oil prices which his epa caused by not allowing us to use our own oil therefore causing gas to be $4.00 a gallon, giving the foreign gas sippers the advantage because nobody could afford to drive performance cars or SUVS anymore. Then he so graciously offered them a "bailout" in exchange for the privilege of gutting their companies. GM lost Pontiac and Oldsmobile, Ford lost Mercury, and Chrysler lost Plymouth thanks to this moron telling them how to balance their budget when he couldn't balance his own checkbook. No we have his shoeshine boy about to do the same thing all over again. Say goodbye to your Hellcats, LS1s, and Cobra Mustangs
@@mikeadcock1592 except for the fact that the automakers were hurting while bush was in office and asked for government loans 3 months before Obama took office.
@@CamaroAmx Ah, Presidents Obama saved the car industry after the Bush recession just like President Bidden is saving this economy after the trump recession.
@@carolbates6886 ah yes. because the current presidents political affiliation is the only thing that can effect the entire economy of the US and majority of the world. thats as dumb as people the blame the president for gas prices.
Best looking cars ever produced
Really enjoyed watching this.
There’s a bunch more on the channel bud.
Funny how people dressed back then. Great video...thanks
We didn’t know any better back then lol.
True fact@@nedaCFilms
The orange 1970 GTO Judge near the end, very similar to the car actor Warren Oates drove in the movie “Two Lane Blacktop.” Millions of dollars of rare muscle cars in terms of today’s market value.
I was actively building hemi's during that time...and it would break your heart to know that the 'muscle car mags' and the OEMs (as well as the dealerships) were doing ALL THEY COULD to 'get people to crush those old gas guzzlers'...the 'new muscle' was Dodge Rampages and IROC-Z's...heartbreaking to look back at all that carnage, now...
Love the 454 Vette.
This is some cool racing. Dammed cool
So much iron to get down that track. Love it!
The grand sports are fast the power of the Buick 455s win a lot of drags
Now this is the most realistic drag racing of factory stock cars I have seen. As you can see almost every Factory stock car was very close in quarter mile time with the kind of rubber they were working with back then. Bone stock like these cars are usually comes down to the better driver. This is where I think a lot of BS came from about Factory cars. Most anybody who had one of these cars that raced on the street had taller gears better carburetion better camshaft they were no longer Factory stock. Also add to the fact that a lot of drag racing on the streets was from light to light. A lot of people didn't believe me back in the day I had a 1970 302 2 barrel single exhaust Mustang all that was done to it it was tuned on an oscilloscope Advanced curve in the distributor, bigger radiator, and bigger Jets and some trickery to the two-barrel carburetor. I would race some well-known 13-second cars and either keep up with them or beat them by a fender. No one would believe me they had to see engine for themselves after every race. So I finally put a sticker between the two tail lights that read 302?
Me and my auto shop teacher who was a professional drag racer with a 400 Firebird help do some of the trickery I believe that's why the car was so fast for what it was. I have to thank him for that.
Friday and Saturday nights you Cruise looking for girls. Then go to the local McDonald's on Telegraph Road and watch the big boys race for big money.
I'm talking some of these cars came fresh from Detroit Dragway. I saw Many with wheels up in the air. The best of times.🇺🇸👍
ngl this is the first time I've ever seen a Daytona on the quarter mile
Was even a rare sight back in 1987 lol. These cars were always locked away in garages and only came out for Concours event car shows.
Although speaking of "Concours", some of these cars (including the Daytona) were running the "Concours class" that day which is more strict than "Pure Stock" class.
@@nedaCFilms And it's a good thing too! Now they actually handle and stop too!
@@nedaCFilmsI know that 69 Grand Prix with the 428 can do a lot better than that but that Buick was not stock at all
That manual Hemi Charger is absolutely amazing.
Like it or not, this was how it really was back in 1987 Face it guys with no such thing as legal sticky street tires and such. NOTICE: ... as a whole, the Buick GS Stage 1 cars DOMINATED. This website of Street Muscle never features these fine underdog SLEEPERS. The GS Stage 1.
..would be awseome if they showed the burnouts..
Awesome
I still can’t believe how fast these cars were back in the day. Mods aside..
12.4? That’s fast now…
Yes sir, and 50+ years ago that was stupid fast lol.
@@nedaCFilms exaaaaactly !!
A lot of these races were won by the driver. Didn't see many cars win without getting the hole shot.
Jim Mino’s 68 Firebird was badass
crazy fast.. 12 sec car
A rare RAII " ... I was there when he raced it at Salem in Ohio. A fully built blueprinted NHRA so-called "stocker". Nothing like the other street cars that raced back then As a whole. the Buick GS's DOMINATED. . .
There's no way a mostly stock firebird is running those numbers on street tires.
@@LR-my2di Bull - Jims RAII Was stock Street legal went through a tear down after His Championship Win in 1987- NUFF SAID
Man, I was THERE in Ohio. That fine little 'bird was admitted to be an "NHRA Stocker". That's a big difference beyond being factory stock. Esp. the CAMSHAFT for any "NHRA STOCK" car. I remember a valve cover coming off. Yes! This was no NHRA race so no complete teardown could be demanded or was really necessary.
This was indeed a fully prepped NHRA Stocker and it arrived on a TRAILER. That being a first year for this event, many other cars like ALL of the Buicks there were driven in. Still, Mino is to be commended for a fine running NHRA Stocker.
Those RA ii 'birds were very light, too. Mino's car, of course) had no power options, was radio deleted and such as that. But that was legal and ok. Most of the other entrants just came with their street machines that year. So they were humorously disadvantaged. .... Larry Rose
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I think o recognize this track . Quaker City in Ohio?
had a 1974 trans am red mild cam 400cu in 1987
The '74 models were always my favorite.
Those were the days....the smells, the sounds, the people, the atmosphere........the actual work/love/pride that went into that, was America in it's finest hour.....Nowadays.... it's a joke...... give me money, because you're rich, and I'll build you a rocket car.....that will dust everything.......sickening........
Please keep the American bad ass cars/heritage/way of life alive,...
Damn . . @ 0:21 . . . Cougar 428 made short work of the Chevelle 😊
That Cougar Eliminator was one of the faster cars there that day. It was a beast.
I'm entering my 1976 Chevette soon. It's cranking over 90 hp with some torgue. 👋
👀See you at the races 👁️
Put headers on that chevetteeee...shift kit it's light that's key 🔑 start light buildaround that make it a sleeper it will surprise alot folks lol 😆 😆 lol
I'll bring my 72 Vega 4 speed. 89hp/127ft lbs. See you there lol!
Wish I was there and then.
Jim Mino is Godlike...
@@plumbbob3778 he was brilliant!
I had a 68 Chevelle 396 / 375. 4sp. 456 gear, ate alot of ford cj
@@user-bj3zz4ul7z oh I bet that thing was an absolute terror in stoplight to stoplight street action with those 4.56 gears!
Thumbs Up ! I redid that mustang comment so your reply went away, Sorry about that bud. Anyway Thumbs Up on this video also. Peace and have a good day now.
Dam.
How time has change by technology.
Yep, most of these cars are over 50ys old.
That LS5 Vette was sandbagging..lolol
Gotta love a Hemi Auto!
Yup ... and gotta love when a underdog Buick GS Stage 1 takes one down.
@@LR-my2di Not very often
@@jts9120 "Not very often" you even find a Buick GS Stage 1 on the drag strip compared to the myriad of Mopars always present. Was such, often it becomes matter of attrition.
Bring back THIS! BAM! nations problems fixed..
Amazing Torino Talladega!
In 1987 my pop refused to let buy a 67 gt 350 and a 69 r.r...and 2000 grand then was alot dough for a 20 year old car..the real reason was apparent after he took for 12.3 second " test drive:...I remeber wher told me to this day.." kid i dont wanna bury you..too much car for you...lol..he was right...I still got a a nice tame automatic 440 car..a 75 cordoba..and I loved it. Lol sometimes dads are right bout some stuff..lol
When I was 16 I saw a white and black Mach 1 in Circuit City parking lot and Hey Mistered the guy. He said he would sell it to me for what I had in my pocket. It was a survivor. Fella was old as dirt. I had 600ish on me and my Dad said no. He said I’d kill myself lol
Remember these tracks have no prep...It's like racing in a parking lot or road,zero traction...plus skinny tires of the day etc...Most cars are 2 seconds off what they could run..
Many of these cars are running “concours class” 100% factory stock.
Awesome. Except for a few of them, this is a lot more representative of how these cars actually ran stock verses the "pure stock" drag races of today. A lot of very rare cars here... how often do you see a basically stock Charger Daytona running the 1/4 lol. Would like to have bought all of them back in 87, they'd be worth a fortune today!
These could likely the last guys to drive them like they were meant to be driven. Bet all of them are trailer queens nie
I watched a 68 Roadrunner Hemi beat a 70 Buick 455 stage 1, and a 69 Hemi Charger beat a 70 Buick GTS stage 1
When it comes down to the 426 HEMI, 454 LS6 and 455 Stage 1 engines, it all depends on model, options and driver usually. All 3 of these engines can beat the other on any given day.
Hemis on the romp!
The times the 426 automatic cars were tuning were the best in this vid.
U wish ,they were running high 13s to high 14s,the Buicks were kicking there ass
@@camclarke9952 I love BOP but sorry you see what you see. I was looking at the times and I saw what I saw. You know the HEMI rules. Sarcasm
@@srt8rocketship241 stage 1 rules hemi is slow.
I have a feeling some of these would be a bit faster with some tuning and/or a gear change.
My first car was a 1978 Camaro, and that ran 14.3 with 3.73 in the 10 bolt.
Some of these cars were running a "concours class" and some a "pure stock class" and had strict factory showroom stock inspections, especially the concours cars. Many of them were show cars. Keep in mind that this was filmed 30+yrs ago
@@nedaCFilms I understand, it is probably also a lot of them that maybe not even is that interested in or trying to go that fast, just like today. More about the cruising and just driving it. They dont even know what their ignition timing is. I think sometimes maybe those kind of people have more fun in the end though.
0:21 428 CJ Cougar Eliminator >
Yeah, they were bad b*tches!
that eliminator is far from stock,they were slow from factory,watch a 428 lighter mustang a true slug..
What no grand national just kidding easy now.hear those big blocks yeh baby
that black cougar is a killer
That Cougar Eliminator is an absolute beast! One of my favorites for sure. That Ram Air II Firebird is a show too.
This shows you how much cars really improved over the last 50+ years. Modern day muscle cars with similar big ci. motors average 1/4 mile within the 10 second range. 2018 Dodge Demon holds a 9.65 second track record in stock trim! A modern day Honda Civic Type R runs 13.6 seconds and the engine is almost 1/4 size of a big 426 hemi! And some modern cars can hit well over 200mph top speed where the old schools only had enough gear to top out at 120mph.
The Demon and Civic Type R are force fed. You omitted those pertinent facts.
Im not saying that Firebird is cheating because I dont know what the rules were. But thats a far from a stock car that most appear to be running.
Yeah Jim knew every little secret there was. The heads had a serious valve job done as well as porting, polishing and extrude honing of heads, intake and whatever else he could do to gain the edge.
I'm curious where this even took place. I heard the name of one of the drivers was Tom Kelley. So, I'm curious if that's the same Tom Kelley who owns dealerships currently in Fort Wayne Indiana.
Probably is the same fella. There's a few names that went on to be quite popular drag racers.
@@nedaCFilms It’s a fair possibility
What I wouldn't give to have those old hemis
Does anyone know what the regulations were on what modifications were permitted during these races?
Most were concours class, 100% showroom stock with crappy tires lol
@@nedaCFilms I asked because I hear a lot of people say the GS stage 1 was the Hemi killer, but by watching this video, I wouldn't say that's 100% accurate. And I love the GS stage 1s and the Hemi.
I wonder are these cars still around today?
Almost all and are still owned by these guys too, most of them still race them in stock and stock appearing events.
I wanna say that '73 trans am 455 sd is still around till this day, there wasn't a whole lot of them.
Before rich people fucked it up. Like all sports. Court side at a Lakers game is something a regular dude can't do anymore.
What do chevy fans do ?gather up all the few times that they beat a Mopar in stock class and save it in their archives ?? I think so
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5:05 is this track on a downhill slope?
I’m sure it’s just an optical illusion from the camera angle
I wonder were all these cars are today
I thought the same thing
Most probably don't own them anymore
Best video I’ve seen in a long time but that corvette has no place there. These are muscle cars. Not 2 seat sports cars. Unfair advantage
Lmao Seriously stupid comment .have you ever been in the back seat of a shitstang?not much of one.
@@ryangulley2051 still has a backseat though moron. You just made my point for me. Now go back to living in your moms basement.
Some of these drivers are really bad. That makes a huge difference.
Concours class cars. Probably afraid to hurt them. They were $$$$$ even in ‘80s
Not sure what track this was but a downhill grade does make for better ET I bet lol
Most of these are capable of much faster times. Shows how much the best performance is dependent on a good driver for these older cars
I had a doggy stock Ls1 Camaro 6 speed that ran 13.20s @108mph.
There was a auto publisher in 2001 that ran a 12.89 in a completely stock LS1 Camaro.
@@nedaCFilms I remember seeing that also, to throw salt on the wound it was a Ford Magazine that ran those numbers...ha
@@nedaCFilms Ha! So they claimed.
Slooooow.
13 and 12 second 1/4 miles out of 50+ year old cars was fast as hell lol. Keep in mind the majority of these cars were running “Concours Class” - 100% Showroom Stock.
@@nedaCFilms lots of 14s and 15s. Being an old guy i know how they run. Today theycare slow. Cool but slow.
Its wierd how these cars had so much power but were so slow In the quarter. My sn95 cobra makes like 350 and on street tires I'm mid 12s.
They made anywhere from 10% to 40% less power than they were rated for. The majority of American cars had gross horsepower rating compared to net horsepower, which we use now. Because of that, a lot of muscle cars had 50 - 100 horsepower less than they said.
Sloppy suspensions and bias ply tires are mostly the blame. You gotta get the power to the ground. Gearing could come into play as well.
“Net” ratings began in 1972, meaning all accessories/belts hooked up; a roughly 20% power loss on paper. A 375 horse engine would now rate 300 horse.
@@Lucille69caddy Times weren't much different with drag radials.
@@joshjlmgproductions3313 “Not much” is still different. Every little bit helps.
@@joshjlmgproductions3313bring it to the pure stock muscle drags,u'll be out first round.
That Catalina was bad. My dad got hit by a cement truck in one and tore it in 2 pieces.
1:32 Sheesh! That launch tho
Yes, what a holeshot!!!
Mopar or no car, that hemi will shimi.
Until the underdog Buicks dance on by.
@@LR-my2di I only saw one Buick win over all the Mopars.
@@jts9120 Oh, and by the way, you didn't see the entire video here. It was cut short. And the saddle brown 1970 GS was a real Stage 1. The owner is from Edinboro, PA. It runs like a Stage 1 should, although he sandbagged a few times at this event.
Only 3 Buicks there. MANY Mopars. If this video had gone to the end, you''d seen that the Buick GS's posted the quickest times overall. I was there. @@jts9120
Wish I had my 69427 NOVA SS THERE it would run low 12s as is
"As is"? No Nova was built with a 427.
@@LR-my2di Saw 37 of them with 396 were sent for upgrades to a 427,believe mine is one of only maybe 10 to be left around
@@stacydornan9765 Really? You saw 37 of them? Converted 427 Nova from 396's'? Pls. tell us more. Like where? And they were sent where for "upgrades"? To whom? So the cars were nowhere near factory stock as these were. BTW, nowadays, documentation is everything.
@@LR-my2di I'm in London Ontario Canada car was appraised at 13500 in 1986,said it was one of 27 ever built,was a 4spd but it was removed by previous owner to race automatic was installed
@@stacydornan9765 Ok Stacy ... but my questions were not answered as to who did what you claimed to so many of these Nova 396's (and where all of those 396's ended up). There is absolutely "zero" documentation that I can find on this, and I've owned 7 big block Novas and been into these Novas since 1969. One was a rare '69 Yenko 427 Nova, but that is not a factory car like the ones in this video. Neither is any other 427 Nova. BTW, when my Yenko was stock, but with Hooker headers that came with the Yenko conversion, I still had big trouble outrunning those heavier GS Buicks like those you see here in this video.
Those are real American muscle cars they don't make them like that anymore just saying
Yes sir and no sir lol.
newer cars are 1000% better..quicker and last longer than these old rust buckets
14.84 in the SS 396...what people think was fast wouldn't beat a Honda Accord of today
True but these cars are worth 50 times your rice burner.
@@rockyjonesspacecadet7089 not for much longer...when electric takes over they are shredded...sell if you have one
@@andrefecteau True..I have a 69 R/T I seldom drive and kicked around the idea.
@@rockyjonesspacecadet7089 and much cooler
True but Honda accords do not look cool ,or sound cool on the street or the strip
You need to slow down the narration just bit since your already giving the time before they finish you have time slow down so we can hear you more clearly
Are you serious? This is like 50 year old footage