The Hanging Gardens of Babylon: The Ancient World’s Missing Wonder
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Source/Further reading:
National Geographic, were the Hanging Gardens really at Babylon? www.nationalgeographic.com/hi...
Independent, Nineveh’s gardens: www.independent.co.uk/news/sc...
World History, overview: www.worldhistory.org/Hanging_...
Overview of the Seven Wonders: www.worldhistory.org/The_Seve...
Britannica, overview: www.britannica.com/place/Hang...
History, the Hanging Gardens of Nineveh: www.history.com/news/hanging-...
BBC, article on Babylon itself: www.bbc.com/culture/article/2...
History Extra, Babylon overview: www.historyextra.com/period/a...
Britannica, Robert Koldewey: www.britannica.com/biography/...
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Simons Business Blaze personality seems to be spreading out further and further from the Blazement like Danny spilling a Freybentos pie into the Blazement dirt (soon to be available for sale along with Rotten Turtle).
I'm not too happy about the amount of profanity you use in this episode. I watch this with my kids.
Could the hanging gardens be a metaphor. To all satan's religions he has set up. And hanging gardens is its name because it is not a permanent fixture in the sky because these kingdom's are built on lies and can fall. Because trees are in gardens and trees can mean teachings and false teachings fall at the feet of the truth
I think you mean After death common era is just super stupid
Don't say it was aliens, it was definitely King Koopa. He used gold coins to fund the project and Nebbie was his good friend. Evil tyrants seem to get on pretty well
Future historians will be arguing about the true location of the Olive Gardens.
The times of endless breadsticks will be praised for eternity!!
They would be looking for places that have olive trees...what if the gardens were just a food place the whole time
@@jkee9760 A ludicrous proposition!
Now, I’m hungry….
@@jkee9760 The Amazing Salad Bar of Babylon
The Hanging Beard of Simon Whistler
😂
That's the real wonder
I hope he does beard ornaments for the holidays.
😄
@@johnreese1584 I think he'd do it on BusinessBlaze
The evidence suggesting the hanging gardens being in Nineveh sounds pretty damning. I'm convinced.
I mean.. man literally said he did that. Nebuchadnezzar definitely would’ve been stroking himself while his scribes chiselled the story of his gardens
Glad he's covered this finally. I'm reading "The Mystery of the Hanging Garden of Babylon" by Stephanie Dalley. It's pretty much her life work that pushes for the Hanging Gardens being in Nineveh.
@@roycefruciano5418 the confusion of location of the gardens is because of the Assyrian conquering of Babylon in 689 B.C. Following the takeover, Nineveh was referred to as the “New Babylon
Same. I’m going to call it the Hanging Gardens of Nineveh and encourage everyone else to do so too.
Nineveh? Oh, Nineveh... No! Nineveh is where I draw the line!
I bet we'd have more of an idea if the library of Alexandria didn't go up.
That library would likely be well preserved underground and off limits to most, similar to what we see in Rome.
Up? Don't you mean down? It's submerged, along with most of what was the city of Alexandria, off the coast of Egypt in the Mediterranean Sea.
...in flames.
@@PaulVandersypen up in flames when Julius Caesar burned it......
@@kevmasengale6903 Ah yes. Nobody can say Alexandria didn't have an eventful existence LOL.
Maybe the real Hanging Gardens were the friends we made along the way.
i feel that.
Oohh stop it you silly sod
Ahhh, the One Piece
Raxxla
Haha
Just imagine a thousands of kilometers trip, in ancient times, just to arrive and be told "the hanging gardens of wut!?"
Just as bad as, "wrong Babylon, dude, you took a wrong turn."
There’s a great documentary with Dr. Dalley showing how water was moved to Nineveh and palm trees were used as the screws. Definitely worth watching.
Link?
That’s interesting because I have found information saying that they were most likely in Nineveh and not Babylonia.
@@GioDennis He gave you enough info to find it on your own.
@@bigviel3298 on repeat with this comment. Be an adult and search it up
@@GioDennis I watched it on pbs, it was I believe an episode of secrets of the dead
The idea that there was another city going by the same name is so simple that it's impressive it took so long for someone to think of it. I mean, we literally have a bunch of examples of that nowadays, it's not that far fetched.
Considering how many towns and villages here are called Neustadt (literal translation would be "new town") because they typically were new when they were founded, it isn't too weird that they did something similar back then.
This is best, especially when I recall Alexander the Great naming multiple places “Alexandria”
My mind immediately jumped to the fact that the Romans moved their capital to Constantinople, yet continued to refer to themselves as Romans. Or the many Alexandrias that were named for Alexander the Great.
@@SSPspazmoving to Constantinople didnt change the fact that most of Greece had been heavily romanized
@@nicholasbrown668 that’s a complete non sequitur. How does this have anything to do with my comment? My point was that if we had a very incomplete historical record of the Byzantine Empire, we’d be equally confused because they kept calling themselves Romans long after Rome fell.
1:25 - Chapter 1 - Things to be seen
4:25 - Chapter 2 - The gardens of eden
7:50 - Chapter 3 - A glimpse of paradise
10:40 - Mid roll ads
12:10 - Chapter 4 - Deconstructing eden
15:50 - Chapter 5 - Paradise lost
18:45 - Chapter 6 - Paradise found ?
Legendary!
Milton proud
@@Michallote Good answer
Thank you ser
bless u bro.
I remember doing a history project on this in 6th grade. It was probably one of those most interesting things I remember in school and made me realize my love for history and mysteries.
let me request a video on Persepolis. The Persian capital was designed to impress visiting satraps and featured underground aquaducts to make it seem like theyd miraculously found, or manufactured, water in the desert.
Here’s what rubs me the wrong way with the HGoB: saying it was impossible to be a thing, as the engineering and resources necessary is just not possible. But how many times has the same statement been used for those wonders we *do* have evidence and knowledge of? How many times have people marveled and wondered “Oi, how were the crystal skulls made? How’s ancient societies make stone and boulders perfectly spherical with modern equipment?” Maybe we need to realize we know fuck-all instead of outright-poopooing such things. There’s a difference between a scientist saying “We don’t have any current proof or understanding” as opposed to “Yeah, it’s impossible for that to be a thing”.
Simon I think your videos made me love CZcams documentaries. Everyday I watch at 1-2 videos just learning about random stuff. If I go a week without watching it feels like I skipped out on school and that's not a good feeling. I always wanted to learn more about the hanging gardens of Babylon and here I am!
I can’t even remember to water my only hanging plant on porch so I’m easily impressed
I was always struck by the fact that not only are the pyramids the outstandingly obvious inclusion and the only one still extant, they were also the only ones already really ancient in Philo's time, already 2000 years old. That's durability. Although the lighthouse, new in Philo's time, survived in working order into the middle ages, so about 1600 years. That's pretty good.
The pyramids are likely a lot older than the current accepted timeline
Simon, for the love of god, could you slow down: I’m trying to binge your channels, but as soon as I finish one and move onto another, you post another channel.
it's clones. Simon clones.
There is roughly a 5% chance any given video contains an unexpected Simon Whistler 😂
@@SquiddyHiggenbottom very true
BOOP! I'm aware this comment thread is a few months old, but Simon made another new channel a couple days ago - Into the Shadows
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Four minutes in and we still haven’t reached any point, this guy can really Babylon...
BARA BOOM BOOM DIIIISSHHHH
@@SkagulTV it's buh dum tsss
It’s ‘bada boommm … tish’
Badda badda budda budda booda booda tsh tsh tsh tssssshhhhh. Budda tsh.
I would love to hear more of the original ancient 7 Wonders of the world and also some Stolen Or Missing ancient artifacts and destroyed structures.
Last time I was this early, Hammurabi didn't era skip me with eurekas
Haha
Ill bet last time your comment was just as lame.
@@nastybastardatlive shut up
Come on, what's wrong with sub 100 planes? Perfectly balanced.
When you did your episode of the colossus of Rhodes. I googled the 7 ancient wonders of the world and this one was the one I was most interested in!
Glad he got a video out for you! 😊
Damn, it seems like all that time playing Civilization has finally payed off.
"Turned it up to 11" is my favorite phrase that nobody gets. Thank you.
Nobody? Think again.
Sennacherib allows himself the briefest of smiles before shouting, "GET OFF MY LAWN!"
A servant: But Sire, this is not a lawn, it a garden from downstairs.
Sennacherib: Shut up or you are fired.
I swear Simon needs a channel to talk about all of his other channels.
What I dearly love about this channel is you point out the glaring differences between what has been said and what is actual fact. Nothing is more frustrating than watching a video on ancient history only to have the narrative tell you that the sole purpose of the peoples was to build massive structures to bury someone in or to satisfy their need to have happy chakras.
More Babylonian History!!
Also Obligatory Semiramis (Fate) reference!!
Wilt MAH MAN good very good
Assyrian history
@@CollinY818 yes but in the Fate Grand Order game her Noble Phantasm (Special Attack) is called “The Hanging Gardens of Babylon”
I was looking for Fate comment.
And I am satisfied.
@@wilt3051 the confusion of location of the gardens is because of the Assyrian conquering of Babylon in 689 B.C. Following the takeover, Nineveh was referred to as the “New Babylon
Hanging could have been a mistranslation. Floating perhaps? Like the floating chinampas gardens in the Americas. Seems more plausible-floating in the river. The topic of Chinampas coincidently would make a great side project/geographics video
A buddy referred me to this channel. I'm somewhat of a history buff, and thoroughly enjoy these videos. And I find your voice soothing for some reason. Excellent works, Mr. Whistler. Excellent works.
Be careful Sir. If you like history and the sound of Simon's voice..the man has 6 or 7 channels and is good at what he does and can be funny. I thought I'd catch a video or two over 2 years ago. 🤔
@@botodd4679 Honestly, those are rabbit holes I wouldn't mind tumbling down.
@@erickhill8707 Business Blaze ;)
@@EvanRustMakes Will give it a go later this afternoon. Good looking out.
SO many good channels that Simon runs. My favorites are this and Biographics, but I've also become addicted to the Casual Criminalist (and am trying to keep myself from falling down any more of his rabbit holes).
I really like this channel,
Spend too much time binging this lol
he is a very professional and well presented man who is not at all crazy.
not like that blaze boy....
@@emmiannon1266 I just started watching CC so I get that reference.
You bing this channel?
Good keep watching and get that knowledge. It's cool to see how many people watch these informational videos rather than sit on tiktok wasting away and destroying their attention span.
Same.
If I could go back in time, I’d go back and see the gardens, I can’t imagine how beautiful they would be.
Ah yes the noble phantasm of the assassin of red reina semiramis de asiria.
she is the statue of liberty, no?
Ah yes, I've found my people
Simon forgot to mention the flying and the beam shooting. 0/10
Ah yes lover of a Japanese yorokobeing priest amakusa shiro
@@nightwyrm4354 Flying and beam shooting, what in the world are you talking about?
Koldeway is the Archeologist that discovered the remains of the hanging gardens with a hydraulic mechanism like a pump to pull water from Euphrates.
I too once thought I discovered Babylon, but it turned out it was just Deep Space Nine... :P
I tip my nonexistent hat to you.
😆 It's Babylon 5.
Lol
Next should be the Parthenon or the Temple of Zeus
On your channel?
Temple of Zeus would be cool!
I feel like I've heard Simon talk about the Parthenon before. If not here on this channel, check his channel Megaprojects
Thanks for doing the gardens. I’ve always been interested in them but have never been able to find a really great video on them. Definitely my favorite ancient wonder.
Amazing video Simon and team, you all have taught me SO much about history and I thank y'all for it
I’m so glad he decided to cover more ancient wonders
In modern Greek, "themata" means subjects (to talk about)
Makes sense. Themata … themes … topics
This was super interesting. I'm an alt Babylon convert.
the confusion of location of the gardens is because of the Assyrian conquering of Babylon in 689 B.C. Following the takeover, Nineveh was referred to as the “New Babylon
I’m alt Right.
Macedonia was also called Babylon at one point. And in the book of Revelation in the Bible Babylon is mentioned even at the end times. Babylon could just be a term used to describe a massive indestructable city thus there could be many cities nicknamed Babylon.
I didn't know that, it's really interesting!
I literally cannot stop watching Simon Whistlers videos help me I’m hopelessly addicted
Me too
I’ve waited so long for this one, thanks Simon!
Excellent work. I love that I actually learn new information from your vids. Thank you!
Perfectly timed with my break 💖
Little known fact: Philo was this first creator to make a clickbait list to help him get Curiosity Stream sales.
I honestly have been waiting for this video for a long time!! Thanks
This is my favorite episode so far on this excellent channel. Loved knowing more about the famous gardens, going to look up Dr. Daley's documentary.
Iraqi Polymath Al Jahiz once stated:
يذهب الحكيم وتبقى كتبه، ويذهب العقل ويبقى أثره.
"The wise goes, his books remain, the mind goes, and its effect on people remains"
I can see that perforated bricks would have a great benefit to the hanging gardens. Obviously not in any structural capacity, but rather to allow water to flow onward and downward, encouraging further garden growth cascading downwards with the trickling/ seeping water. Modern irrigation has its own version. Only time will tell if it’s more durable than previous incarnates of earlier water systems, like the Roman aquaducts etc etc etc ( extra etc’s, because... romans)
Oh my. I've hoped for this video and even requested this previously.
Cheers!
That final description almost brought a tear to my eye.
Its always the first wonder I make in Civ
So you built a garden full of lies ;_; ? How could you Dylan.
I remember this wonder was buildable in Civilization 3 on PS1 (probably still there in the modern version of that game series lol)… it was part of the Ancient Wonders, gave you a big boost in happiness and cleanliness! While another one, the Great Lighthouse, made it so the very first ships you had could leave the coast! Great power up for the ancient world! Plus may have given ships an additional space to move, or that was some other wonder 🤪
I really liked that game, inspired me to be more interested in history! Was already inspired by my grandpa who collects civil war items! History has always been very cool and makes me think, what will this planet look like in another 1000 years 😉🤓
It still is buildable in Civ 5 and Civ 6.
@@troybaxter awesome 🤟😝
I just discovered your channel, and you deserve way more attention. Great videos man.
Interesting and, as ever, beautifully put. many thanks
I like when Simon speaks slow enough to actually catch what he's saying on this channel lol 😆
Nineveh, of course. Those old timers were using an out of date GPS map. Makes sense.
the confusion of location of the gardens is because of the Assyrian conquering of Babylon in 689 B.C. Following the takeover, Nineveh was referred to as the “New Babylon
By far one of my favorite ancient structures to learn about thank you!
I've watched a number of your videos but this is by far the sassiest. I love it
Fingers crossed that this mystery is resolved in our lifetime. There is so much wonder about our past left to be uncovered. We history buffs would love nothing more than a time machine to see into the distant past and find the answers to all those ancient mysteries.
Does that mean the babylonians got the last laugh, having inherited the memory of the gardens after the name of their city was taken from them?
No because whilst babylonians are long gone as an identity, the Assyrians are still alive and exist in many areas of the world.
Well Done!! Amazing information - well presented!!!
Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.
These videos are so well researched. Kudos to Simon Whistler and his team. Amazing job y’all
Just built this in my civ 6 game. Culture victory babyyyy
Thank you so very much for making this video! It’s fantastical done!!!
I suggested this topic a while back. Glad you made it. Liked it.
16:30 can we just take a moment to appreciate what a badass photo this is
Great video. Proves that most of the “history” we know is inaccurate or biased. If Archimedes screws existed before Archimedes was born then how did he get credited with inventing them? 🤔🧐
A thing can be independently invented, Archamides is recorded as having invented the screw because he probably did simply much later, and likely he and others didn't know of the screws that had previously been invented by someone else.
If he independently invented the screws and popularized them, then its obvious that he would be credited because for all he and most other people knew he did.
Similar to the history of the printing press. Invented in China first. But completely separately invented in Europe, where it really solidified it's place.
yay i’ve been waiting for this
absolutely fascinating! Thank you for this video!
It's a really neat conclusion. Although I was under the impression that Ninevah was so totally destroyed that almost nothing was left standing. Hard to imagine a garden surviving the fires that reportedly consumed it all. Maybe my historys off.
I always assumed the real gardens were just a bunch of potted plants on the various levels of the old babylon ziggurat
Great video - really interesting!
Awesome video. You saved me a lot of time and for that I am eternally grateful. Thank you good man. Thank you very much.
I would like to visit Iraq with my camera, Babylon, Ur.... but it's so hard now☹
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Irena!
It is a mess but I hope at some point the Middle East will stabilize.
@@alexs5744 Hopefully
It will never stabilise that’s just the truth. The area has too much importance for there to be peace.
Considering that Babylon was what people called the general area around both Nineveh and the city of Babylon itself, this makes perfect sense. Think New York; it's both a city and a state. You could tell someone you're going to New York, but be heading for Buffalo, NY. I find it funny that people back then would give cities like Nineveh a second name that already belongs to another. That's like being in Miami and saying you're going to West Miami when you're actually heading for Houston or Los Angeles.
Part of it comes from what the ruler was doing in Nineveh. According to one atlas of The Levant that I have*, during the reign of the Babylonian Empire, the city of Nineveh was officially called Babylon when the King was there for official business for more than a month. This tradition was adopted by the Medo-Persians who also called it Sousa when the King was there on vacation. Sousa was the name of the capital(?) of Media, North-Northeast of the city of Babylon, and had the official vacation home of the King.
*I came across some errors in the atlas serious enough to make me question its reliability, but those were few enough to warrant a high degree of confidence. So, take that second paragraph with a small grain of salt, and clarification and correction is invited.
Ok so I've looked everywhere for something on the Cuban Missile crisis. I could get a quick go around about it anywhere (already have.) But I was shocked to not see anything on Geographics, or Biographics. I need Simon to explain so I can feel like I was there.
Check out Timeghost History, cover it day by day
great ending to an awesome video. great work.
Americans attribute random quotes to Mark Twain. interesting that British peeps use Wilde
Americans use Wilde and Lincoln too.
@@owenshebbeare2999 Well yes, and Einstein all the time too, as Im sure the Brits dont just quote Wilde but also other people often as well, but we are speaking more in simplistic general terms here and not creating an exhaustive list of all quoted people. I remember reading somewhere that the two people in America that quotes are most readily attributed to and often mistakenly attributed to because everyone likes to attribute quotes to them are Einstein and Twain...Simon used Wilde, which is a literary reference, so I chose to also just cite one person, which was also a literary reference...Twain
@@owenshebbeare2999 don’t believe everything you read on the internet -Mahatma Ghandi.
Geographics? More like Mythographics! Amirite? Amirite? Haha. Haha... I'll show myself out.
Simon, if Mythographics is your next channel, i want a slice of that capitalist pig beard money, fact boi.
😂😂
David Childress, is that you???
@@jaspersmith5748 Yes, Simon is the reincarnated David Childress, telling us alternate histories like the Hanging Gardens existing! Haha
Man simon im glad you have so mamy channels so many more videos for me to watch
Thanks for posting nice vid
Awesome! Thank you for making a video on The Hanging Garden!
From years of learning archaeology, I can say that some ancient reports did love to exaggerate their stuff. That, and coupled with no-longer-living witnesses, makes historical conjectures much more interesting & exciting for our modern interpretation. Things that were written as a mindblowing invention mankind had never seen before, could probably be a normal feat for our modern society; but since we can never see from ancient world perspectives, our minds possibly project their achievements as something extraordinarily mythical :D
Yes. Except the pyramid is just as grand as it was described. They didn't exaggerate that one...
Its fun to wonder about these things, while making the distinction between implausible and impossible.
That is basically the core of reading ancient texts, there is a true core, but exaggerated and blown out of proportion with time. Especially for heroic tales.
The battle of thermopylae wasn't 300 Spartans against two million Persians. It was more like 7000 Greeks (pus auxiliaries to get the number closer to 11000) against 200000 Persians.
But what sounds more impressive, fighting a battle 18:1 or fighting a battle 6000:1? Still an impressive feat, but wouldn't it be more impressive of the enemies would be even more.
The gardens were obviously impressive to travelling greeks at the time, but with each person telling the story, it becomes bigger.
This is BS. The Pyramids are still standing and speak for themselves. The temple of Artemis although little remains, was almost as big as the largest churches that still amaze everyone, and it was entirely in marble. The Great Lighthouse was standing and functioning until the middle ages, before the barbaric arabs trasnformed it into a fortress (still standing today). The Colossus laid on the ground in pieces for centuries after collapsing due to an earthquake, its pieces were still there in the 16th century. Everyone witnessed the size of these structures for centuries. The Mausoleum of Alicarnassos consists nowadays of just the basement, but it is large indeed and it's the model for equal sized, rarely bigger, mausoleums since then.
Logic wants that the Hanging Gardens were just as impressive.
Plus the building height was limited to basically 10 stories well into the XIX century for technical reasons, and european cities kept it as a maximum well into the XX century (Le Corbusier complains precisely about that in his idiotic Plan Voisin's relation).
So these structures (not to mention those still standing such as the Colosseum or Pantheon or Hagia Sofia etc) were impressive throughout history, not to mention their artistic and cultural value was not merely in their size
"Fall of the Tower of Babylon" hmmm, a good earthquake could have caused the fall of the hanging gardens due to the irrigation system causing a failur ein the structure itself. Egyptians and Romans and Balkan Sea villages utilized iron rods within stone and bricks to keep them together and to move them in place.
"Look how high I can hang my plants!"
- Some Guy in Babylon Probably
Glad I found your channel!
There's no doubt at all Nebuchadnezzar had more than enough fancy screws in his gardens, he was supposed to have built them for his wife (and he did have ten children we know of.)
Fancy "screws" indeed...🤔😜👍
All Simon's channels getting incrementally more Business Blazey and I dig that!
I did find this interesting, thank you Simon.
So fascinating!
Theres a beautiful garden near Denver, called the botannical gardens. Many cities have them. I suggest you have a look. The Hanging Gardens of Babylon may be a myth, or lost to the sands of time, but there are incredible gardens today your whole family can enjoy. I don't represent any of them, but I see them in decline and it saddens me.
Maybe the real hanging gardens were the friends we made along the way 😔🤚🏻
Brilliant video.
12:35 you say that as if it's a bad thing. It's glorious.
Fun fact: there are also no historical accounts of Jesus from the time he lived and all the records/stories we have are from decades after his supposed death.
the hanging gardens was most likely in Nineveh and not Babylon, good old Herodetus making up stories about places he's never visited
he said in the video that Herodotus didn’t say anything about the hanging gardens when he was describing Babylon
@@johnnysmall the thing is good ol' Neb2 wife was pining for the fjords of Norway, no she was born in northern Iran and misse something called the flower mountain, and good ol' Neb2 's city was Niniveh and not Babylon
@@Flum666 what?
@@johnnysmall 'pining for the fjords of norway' is from a Monty Python skit
@@Flum666 nice.
I'm a master gardener consultant by trade. I had a wonderful time including details about the Hanging Gardens in my sales presentation for a wall garden installation recently!
11:19 ok that commercial is one of the best! It's way better described than even the video - and we're talking 7 world wonders here!