How They Caught The Golden State Killer

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  • čas přidán 29. 09. 2021
  • Your genetic code is probably already in a database, without you ever giving a sample or permission. This video is sponsored by Brilliant. The first 200 people to sign up via brilliant.org/veritasium get 20% off a yearly subscription.
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    A huge thanks to Paul Holes, Billy Jensen, Brett Williams, Dr Connie Bormans and Dr Doc Edge for being part of this video. Thanks to Verogen and Family Tree DNA for giving me access to film.
    Thanks to Sonya Pemberton, Joe Hanson, Raquel Nuno, CGP Grey, and numerous Patreon supporters for helpful feedback on an earlier version of this video.
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    References:
    Phillips, C. (2018). The Golden State Killer investigation and the nascent field of forensic genealogy. Forensic Science International: Genetics, 36, 186-188. -- ve42.co/Phillips2018
    Guerrini, C. J., Robinson, J. O., Petersen, D., & McGuire, A. L. (2018). Should police have access to genetic genealogy databases? Capturing the Golden State Killer and other criminals using a controversial new forensic technique. PLoS biology, 16(10), e2006906. -- ve42.co/Guerrini
    Ram, N., Guerrini, C. J., & McGuire, A. L. (2018). Genealogy databases and the future of criminal investigation. Science, 360(6393), 1078-1079. -- ve42.co/Ram2019
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    Executive Producer: Derek Muller
    Writer: Derek Muller
    Animators: Ivy Tello, Another Angle 3D Visuals
    SFX: Shaun Clifford
    Camerapeople: Derek Muller, Raquel Nuno, Shirley Dutoit, Emily Zhang
    Editor: Derek Muller
    Producers: Derek Muller, Casey Rentz, Petr Lebedev, Emily Zhang
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Komentáře • 21K

  • @tyranneous
    @tyranneous Před 2 lety +4

    I'm not worried about the DNA part, the bit I'm anxious about is the misuse of the police. It is

  • @_nemo
    @_nemo Před 2 lety +28

    Wow, that DuckDuckGo ending really hits a certain ironic spot.

  • @incorporealnuance
    @incorporealnuance Před 2 lety +5

    "he did everything he could to leave no trace"

  • @CREEmusic
    @CREEmusic Před rokem +3

    I love how the video ends on her not wanting her searches tracked while promoting everyone have their DNA tracked LOL. The problem has never been a system being used correctly, its always been its misuse.

  • @SevenGC89
    @SevenGC89 Před rokem +819

    I think the scariest part of the whole video was how he was involved with the taskforce actively working to catch him and I remember hearing the story of the guy in the group saying something to the effect of "If he ever came into my house I would kill him" or something to that effect and he was actually in the group listening to the whole thing and hit that dudes house shortly after. Pretty scary how you really never know what goes on behind closed doors of people you think you know.

  • @pedroscoponi4905
    @pedroscoponi4905 Před 2 lety +23

    The issue with me isn't so much whether my privacy outweighs the need to catch violent criminals, it's whether I can trust institutions to not abuse of the privacy we've given up. And you really, really can't - and as the video demonstrates, even if you distrust them to the point of not being willing to share information yourself, your privacy might still be intruded upon anyway. This is a really complex, kinda haunting thing to think about.

  • @mehwhyausername1
    @mehwhyausername1 Před 2 lety +9

    "My biggest concern is health insurance. If you have someone's DNA profile, and that gets into the wrong hands, or laws enacted, resulting in health insurance companies having access to knowing that this person has a proclivity to Parkinson's, then rates could skyrocket. This is a massive privacy issue."

  • @kartik_adhia
    @kartik_adhia Před rokem +1

    Her using duck duck go was the best part of this video.

  • @BM-jy6cb
    @BM-jy6cb Před rokem +1

    In the UK, the RIPA act was introduced "to counter terrorism". It wasn't long before local councils were using it to snoop on people who were using relative's addresses to get their kids into a decent school or even those putting their bins it for collection on the wrong day. When the National DNA database was set up, it was supposed to be for convicted criminals to prevent further offending. When Tony Bliar was later asked what proportion of the UK population he'd like to see on the database, he replied "the maximum possible". The police asked the general public in Croydon for their help catching a serial rapist by giving a DNA sample "simply to eliminate them from the investigation". All their DNA was immediately put on the national DNA database and the police refused to remove it after the investigation was closed. When COVID struck, police were given unprecedented powers "to protect the public". Almost immediately, stories broke about police using drones to identify people walking their dog in the middle of the countryside and videos appeared with police officers threatening people with arrest for letting their kids play in their front gardens. Do I trust current governments and state institutions? No. Do I trust future governments and institutions? Absolutely not!

  • @GaltJohn2008
    @GaltJohn2008 Před 2 lety +5

    My biggest problem with this is the enormous amount of DNA tracking and testing to find a criminal is OK, but death row inmates who get exonerated have to petition the court for years for a DNA test on existing samples to prove their innocence.

  • @thebigman8250

    That moment where the scientist said she was paranoid about privacy really hits. Insanely human moment.

  • @guyelisha1896
    @guyelisha1896 Před rokem +942

    The criminal himself, in this case, was a law enforcement officer. Thus, it is hard for us to trust them with our information...

  • @theondono
    @theondono Před 2 lety +4

    It’s curious to see everyone in the video talking as if data breaches are not a thing.

  • @rikuown
    @rikuown Před 2 lety +2

    Makes sense that he stopped when DNA testing came out being that he was a former police officer.

  • @charleysheets8142
    @charleysheets8142 Před rokem +461

    The 73% opt-in rate should be considered in context. When selecting your privacy setting, opting in is the first selection, the only one that’s green, and the explanatory text ends with “The operators of GEDmatch encourage everybody to select this option.”

  • @expomarker
    @expomarker Před rokem +110

    It was one day in 4th grade, it was just a regular school day for me and my brother. During recess we saw a few helicopters flying around our school, and we thought we were getting filmed, so of course we wave and said hi as all children would. A few years later we find out those helicopters weren't filming us, but instead the house of the Golden state killer. He lived in the same block as my house, my elementary school, and we never knew.

  • @ErikUden
    @ErikUden Před 2 lety +2

    “Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.”

  • @manojkulkarni4692
    @manojkulkarni4692 Před 2 lety +5

    The fact that it took two years (noticed the calendar) for you to collect the whole data shows the level of dedication and effort put into making a video informative. I like how you grew from making scientific explanation videos to making videos about how science actually helps the world.

  • @dizasteraz1691
    @dizasteraz1691 Před rokem +73

    That fact about deangelo being a police officer when he was doing the dirties was really quickly glossed over and brushed away...

  • @martind.799

    The problem as briefly mentionned in the video is that it is NOT just about improving public safety tracking criminals.