Forgotten Football Grounds | The Old Den

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  • Forgotten Football Grounds | The Old Den
    Today I do a video on The Old Den. The former home ground of Millwall from 1910-1993.
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  • @MekoUnknown
    @MekoUnknown Před rokem +22

    Gone, but to those who were there, never forgotten. It was one of a kind.

  • @rockyhudson3346
    @rockyhudson3346 Před rokem +5

    Spent many a Saturday afternoon at the Old Den back in the early 70s. When I went back for a holiday in 89 I was there again. Millwall were playing Liverpool in a midweek 1st Division match in April. Great night..Liverpool won 2-1. Big crowd.. over 22,000. I've been living in Brisbane, Australia for the last 40 years. Still follow the Lions !!!

  • @Ttvgetbottied
    @Ttvgetbottied Před rokem +8

    As a millwall supporter I love the club and the fans and the stadium

  • @alannoles760
    @alannoles760 Před rokem +8

    The old den would never be forgotten

  • @petervarty5637
    @petervarty5637 Před rokem +9

    Went to school next to the Old Den. I moved from one end of Cold Blow Lane to the other. Went to my first game only to see them lose there unbeaten run V Plymouth in the 1960s . Took my Son's to the New Den when we were crap and Billy Bonds !!! was Boss.... Now looking forward to taking my Grandsons one day. Millwall is in our blood. Great Video thank you

  • @keithlancaster8682
    @keithlancaster8682 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Childhood memories come back there.. Thank you!!! Great video

  • @normancallaghan1750
    @normancallaghan1750 Před rokem +11

    Excellent video and history, well done. I enjoy all your "Forgotten Football Grounds".

  • @stevenmoore5976
    @stevenmoore5976 Před rokem +8

    Lots of memories but probably the best belongs to my wife. She was eight months' pregnant and we actually sat down (the only time, I'm a considerate bloke) for a game against Ipswich in 1987. She went to the lav at half time and was just sitting down to releive her bladder when a small window above her head opened and a shovel full of horse shit landed at her feet. We were never sure if this was an ancient fertility rite or just an assumption that no sane woman would ever use the karzi where they dumped the crap from the police horses. We won 2-0.

  • @michaelh2791
    @michaelh2791 Před rokem +3

    I still miss the old home.

  • @tonykelly1679
    @tonykelly1679 Před rokem +7

    I went to every home game that season with my uncle at the old den as a 12 year old.
    To say it was eye opener was a under statement that season has never left me as a Millwall fan.
    I would do anything to go back to them days now but times move on unfortunately. 😢 🦁

  • @markpitts8936
    @markpitts8936 Před rokem +13

    Went there as a 16 year old with Chelsea in 1976. A right eye opener. Was glad to get home. Went in a pre season friendly too in 1980 which was almost as bad. Think it just shades Upton Park as the worst place to go as an away fan in those days.

    • @lefthookcitycentral3918
      @lefthookcitycentral3918 Před rokem +9

      Was there that day, with a handful of Mitcham Chelsea, we stood in the halfway, and I kept my trap shut. I remember seeing the main Chelsea mob surrounded behind the goal to our left. A certain Chelsea face of the time was well up for it tho. Old bill formed a thin blue line. Before the game, Millwall properly steamed into Chelsea at the train station. Another time, I went to Millwall Wolves, and only 1 Wolves fan turned up, he jumped up when Wolves hit the bar, and someone ran across the pitch and gave him a dig. All a long time ago now brother

    • @BARRY-et3jl
      @BARRY-et3jl Před rokem +5

      i was there day,just turned 13 and went with couple mates,got the 21 bus from ferrier estate othher side of lewisham into new cross,it wasn;t the best of days for you lot but for us it was great! the 3-0 win was unreal and what went on in the ground was mad,in them days there was no fences and you could walk all round the ground back then,didnt need tickets,just turned up and payed at turnstile,it was 4 bob to get in(22p) we started off in iderton rd end,there was millwall everywhere and i dont remember your lot being mobbed up in that end or singing but more spread about,as for the cold blow lane end it was just going off it seemed,i give chelsea there due mark,there the only club in my time going millwall thats had a go at taking CBL,,what i can remember was a first mob of your lot got into cold blow,it was kicking off and you lot were getting abit off hiding and splitting up,so loads of you lot ended up running onto the pitch. towards the ilderton road but when you got there you had millwall all in that end,i all ways remember i was stood at back of stand and there was woman about 25 yr old chelsea fan and she wad screaming/sobbing her eyes out with all what was going on and back up the cold blow lane it all went again,another firm of your boys got into the cbl,same thing again we were just to strong for your lot that day,i dont remember chelsea being run onto the pitch that time but i think like the first go you got all split up as mob,but like i said fair play to your lot that day and giving it a go,......at least at stamford bridge you got a draw and we ended up being put onto the pitch at the shed!

  • @pete6645
    @pete6645 Před rokem +5

    I went to the Old Den a few times towards the end of its life and despite its fearsome reputation it was always a ground I enjoyed going to. Great view of the pitch and an amazing atmosphere.
    Suggestion for an old ground to do a film about in future: Somerton Park (Newport County). Thanks.

    • @db0800
      @db0800 Před 11 měsíci

      With the speedway track around the side.

  • @Mark12106
    @Mark12106 Před rokem +5

    Great Video Mate, Stood in the cold blow lane from 76 to closure, It’s never been the same since, Keep the videos coming

  • @SE16Proud
    @SE16Proud Před 7 měsíci +2

    It.ll never be Forgotten.👍 🦁🦁

  • @davidpriestley666
    @davidpriestley666 Před rokem +8

    Very very intimidating ground which used to give us the edge over most teams and it was extremely dicey around the ground aswell 👍👍👍

  • @MichaelLynch1
    @MichaelLynch1 Před rokem +13

    Went there so many times from late 60's to late 80's , as a youngsters my dad and uncles took me there and bunked us over the wall to the right of the turnstiles , must been at over 50 games there, was the most fiercest fans at that time, The Den was a Fortress and Cauldron if Noise
    Millwall Forever 💙

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +5

      Judging by the win loss record it was a fortress.

    • @nmsoppz1672
      @nmsoppz1672 Před 6 měsíci

      He comes from Amsterdam and he fucking hates West ham
      Millllllllll

  • @robertkinner6532
    @robertkinner6532 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The only thing is it will never be forgotten 👊🏻🦁🦁🦁

  • @dianaday4819
    @dianaday4819 Před rokem +5

    Great coverage & story of the old Den 👍 1st went there in Oct 1968, 14500 fans that day, made more noise than the 63000 at Arsenal a few weeks earlier v Man Utd. Millwall is still a working man/woman club no airs or graces, new stadium but same intimidating atmosphere. Been to many of the old closed stadiums & am ticking off the New ones.

  • @terencerees4969
    @terencerees4969 Před rokem +2

    Thoroughly enjoyed your video. Thank you

  • @jonathonbrett-qn1ic
    @jonathonbrett-qn1ic Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great episode love millwall
    Thank you

  • @Lee1978R
    @Lee1978R Před rokem +6

    It was a shithole but I loved going as a kid.. it was so intimidating to the opposition. I used to stand in the North stand. The noise there was unbelievable.

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting

    • @davidjones6778
      @davidjones6778 Před rokem

      Worrow Lee: Baggies fan here. You say it was a shithole, BUT I found when I travelled in the 1970's that grounds that "looked" shitholes were in fact the best as regards home support. I miss those days. Always knew when it was going to be rough when the police at these places had motor bike helmets instead of the flat peaked caps. That was always a warning that it was gong to be rough!!!!

  • @beverleyyoung3895
    @beverleyyoung3895 Před rokem +2

    Great commentary brought it all back.

  • @RichardBrown7k
    @RichardBrown7k Před rokem +3

    Located on Cold Blow Lane, and as it was in a kind of small valley when conditions were right there could be a sharp icy wind blowing right across the pitch, something the Millwall players knew exactly how to exploit to their advantage.
    I am prepared to swear that back in the day when you could just turn up and pay at the gate at almost any football league match in London, I was standing on the terrace behind the goal, directly behind Keith Weller, who was standing practically on the goal line a few yards from the goal itself, he jumped up for a cross (or corner kick)and headed the ball forward into the wind, which was gusting so hard that it turned the ball back to score a goal.

    • @michaelharrison3602
      @michaelharrison3602 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I remember turning up at the old den and paying half a crown 2s/6d (12and a half new pence post decimal) at the turnstiles not a prawn sandwich or skinny latte in sight just loads of meat pies and bovril back then football was a working class game with working class fans not like today's footie fans with their camera phones and silly designer logos politely sipping machines and minding their language 😂

    • @michaelharrison3602
      @michaelharrison3602 Před 2 měsíci

      Sorry that should have read "machiattos" not machines fucking technology 😂

  • @20username09
    @20username09 Před rokem +3

    Great video, I was a nipper when my Dad took me to the last few homes games of the last season there. A stand out memory of the stadium will always be the rivers of piss running out of the old toilets. Would love to go back despite this haha

  • @karlbracey4969
    @karlbracey4969 Před 7 měsíci +1

    When I lived in Lewisham I am a Millwall fan so used to go in Cold Blow Lane loved that ground cmon wall coyl 🦁 💙 Miiiiii Miiiiii

  • @garybartholomew6500
    @garybartholomew6500 Před 2 měsíci

    Proper old school ground great atmosphere coyl

  • @jaykee7962
    @jaykee7962 Před rokem +4

    great memories thanks 👍
    .

  • @nmsoppz1672
    @nmsoppz1672 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Our old ground🦁

  • @chrisbaker7136
    @chrisbaker7136 Před rokem +5

    Looked like a proper football ground

  • @terryosullivan2620
    @terryosullivan2620 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I remember going to the old Den in september 1990, Millwall v Sheffield Wedensday. Because their wers a few Irish lads on both teams. Halftime i went to get a cuppa behind the goal ,and copper saw a guy he knew from Wesg Ham ,and pulled him up and said your a long way from home searched him and found about10 tickets on him for Milkwall end . Millwall were playing @home to the Irons 2 weeks later Eagle eyed copoer down Cold blow lane. But great ground.

  • @Isleofskye
    @Isleofskye Před rokem +3

    Extraordinary contrast between those halcyon days from my debut in 1961/62 to that last day in 1993 and NOW.,and I missed 6 Home matches and went to 85 different grounds and around 1,770 matches in total(including NON -Millwall games). ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT. Even the serried ranks of 5,000 made a real noise and with nearly everyone standing on top of the pitch, including half the Away End with their fans tucked into a corner it was THE most intimidating place that I went to with Upton Park not far behind. NOW> In our ALL SEATER(ASS) SANITISED, SOULLESS,(relatively) SILENT Ground with openings at each corner for the noise to escape.,NO COMPARISON though the toilets are better now.😁

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +2

      It seems a common theme that everyone loves the old grounds as opposed to the new ones.

    • @lilywhite1083
      @lilywhite1083 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yes, I remember having to wade into the gents at the back of the half-way!

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před 4 měsíci

      @@lilywhite1083 All part of the experience but spot on:)

  • @andrewwilkins629
    @andrewwilkins629 Před rokem +1

    Magnificent

  • @lelionbleu6431
    @lelionbleu6431 Před rokem +2

    Great video with a decent content of our History.
    To this day I still believe we was sold out, going from a freehhold to a Leasehold, which has lately given us all cause for concern!!

  • @jameswilson4861
    @jameswilson4861 Před rokem +3

    The only advantage that the New Den has over the old one are the facilities especially the khazis but other than that the original Den was far superior when it came to atmosphere and intimidation.🦁🦁🦁

  • @IAMPLEDGE
    @IAMPLEDGE Před 2 měsíci

    There will be very few people who went to the Den and have forgotten it. Either they would have been too young to register a single visit, or they will have some sort of dementia. For the rest of us it remains unforgettable.

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před 2 měsíci

      It's more of a clickbait title than anything. Thanks for watching.

  • @johnnysmith486
    @johnnysmith486 Před rokem +2

    Top Video

  • @davidpope1489
    @davidpope1489 Před rokem +3

    First went to the den in 1947 my dad gave me

  • @kenclarke7624
    @kenclarke7624 Před rokem

    All my family went to the old den i was 7 years old went to ilderton school often bunked in over the railway lines with my mates best days of my life

  • @anthonymitchell5767
    @anthonymitchell5767 Před 11 dny

    I loved that place

  • @andyleighton4970
    @andyleighton4970 Před rokem +1

    I used to go during the '70's with my Dad, 3 Uncles and one of my Cousins.

  • @rivet4431
    @rivet4431 Před rokem +3

    Of all the stadiums ever.this is the one I most regret not visiting. From a exeter city fan. Cockney walkers.

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +1

      I don't think Exeter City would have ever gotten the chance to play Millwall in the past unless it were in the cups.

    • @millwallholdings
      @millwallholdings Před rokem +3

      @@historyoffootball87 No infact played Exeter quite a few times League and Cup Good video Will put this up on a wall site

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +1

      @@millwallholdings According to one website, they have played three times in the FA Cup, a few times in the old third division but there is large gaps in between some of the games. Like from 1984-2009 there were no matches at all.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před rokem

      I visited Exeter City with Millwall and The Ref was a local bloke, literally.:)
      Memorable day. On the way we got held up by The "Holy Trinity" of a Milk Float then a Tractor and then a Hearse and were 3/0 down at Half Time when we arrived.
      We got back to 4/4 when the "impartial" Ref gave The Grecians a Home Town Penalty and we lost 5/4. lol

    • @lilywhite1083
      @lilywhite1083 Před 4 měsíci

      I saw Millwall beat Exeter 5-1 at The Den in about 1980.

  • @brianrose4299
    @brianrose4299 Před rokem +1

    great video keep it up hope you get lots of likes and subs coyl milllllllllllllll

  • @lil1885nc
    @lil1885nc Před rokem +3

    The plaque from the estate was nicked a couple years ago

  • @DrMadv1be
    @DrMadv1be Před rokem

    In the last game at The Den against Bristol Rovers, they must have got through about 30 balls as whenever they were hoofed into the crowd, they never returned. There was a significant wait towards the end of the match when someone must have been sent off to get some more from the wherever they stored them.

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +1

      I saw highlights of the game on CZcams, some terrible defending from Millwall.

    • @DrMadv1be
      @DrMadv1be Před rokem +1

      @@historyoffootball87 It wasn't the best spectacle for the last game more's the pity.

  • @Isleofskye
    @Isleofskye Před rokem +3

    Are you trying to make a 68-year-old fan cry because you're almost succeeding? lol it was OUR shit hole and opponents hated it. The atmosphere when playing a significant match under Floodlights was described by Kevin McCarthy, Top Football Writer as better than Barcelona's and was very intimidating where you had fans, literally, by the pitch on all 4 sides. Wonderful, memorable days from seeing Millwall win an F A Cup Replay 2/0 against Johnny Haynes and Top Tier team: Fulham in front of 31,000. Could not get a ticket in The Cup in 168 when 41,000 saw us draw 0/0 with Spurs and 73,000 turned up at White Hart Lane and by all reports 15,000 were locked outside. Missed 6 games from 1961/62 to the closure in 1993 and miss it every match.

  • @user-bt9po4kz1b
    @user-bt9po4kz1b Před 3 měsíci

    Great info what part of the n e are you from the way you say old is unusual

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před 3 měsíci

      I live near Middlesbrough but over the other side of the river in County Durham.

  • @dennisesplin3285
    @dennisesplin3285 Před rokem +1

    I remember Cold Blow Lane. It was exactly that. Bloody cold. Great story. Do Deepdale. Oldest ground still on the same site. Home of PNE Ist Champions.

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +1

      I thought Bramall Lane was the oldest continous professional football ground in the world?.

    • @dennisesplin3285
      @dennisesplin3285 Před rokem +1

      @@historyoffootball87 Thanks. Both clubs evolved from cricket grounds. I will bow to your expertise. I have North End professional from 1878 with Blades 1889. Unless you know differently.

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +1

      @@dennisesplin3285 According to what I know, its a contested claim. PNE say they have the oldest, SU say they are the oldest.

    • @dennisesplin3285
      @dennisesplin3285 Před rokem +1

      @@historyoffootball87 I agree. Curiously I understand a relation played for Sheffield United... Bird. Unfortunatly we have no record of this.

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +1

      @@dennisesplin3285 It's a bit like on my Rugby League channel, although I haven't done a video on it, there are two clubs who claim they are the oldest club.

  • @bigupyourself
    @bigupyourself Před rokem +1

    For a couple of seasons I've been wanting to play Millwall but it was looking like they could come up but now looks like we are going down.

  • @7kingkev
    @7kingkev Před 4 měsíci

    Great video , I’d like to know where the person doing the video comes from as there’s a mixture of about 4 north east accents and a bit of yokshire thrown in for good measure in his vocabulary 😂

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Cheers, thanks for watching. I live in a town close to Middlesbrough.

  • @barryh.4220
    @barryh.4220 Před rokem +2

    Went there following Man City, it was never the best place to visit .... it was 'different' though!

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for watching the video and commenting

    • @Overkill2008
      @Overkill2008 Před rokem +1

      You lot were a pain in the arse back then yk that 😂😂😂

    • @peterpowell8827
      @peterpowell8827 Před rokem +1

      Great pubs nearby though. Well for us millwall fans

    • @guddlom7655
      @guddlom7655 Před 10 měsíci

      Although I used to watch a few Mollwall away games with Millwall mate of mine I was there with Man city on December 87 City wo. 0-1, and we were kept in the ground for I think nearly a hour after the game had finished, then Heaviley escorted escorted back to our coaches, was a really intimidating atmosphere.

  • @user-yn9ot9ff4q
    @user-yn9ot9ff4q Před 3 měsíci +1

    When football grounds were proper

  • @davidspear9790
    @davidspear9790 Před rokem +1

    I can only guess that that random section of less than half covered seating was meant to be a start to converting it to all seater before abandoning the idea. Looks weird.

    • @historyoffootball87
      @historyoffootball87  Před rokem +1

      It does look a bit weird to be fair.

    • @Beejay950
      @Beejay950 Před rokem +6

      If I'm remembering this correctly, that small, covered section was for the 'Junior Lions' where the kids and their parents could sit or stand.

    • @dianaday4819
      @dianaday4819 Před rokem +1

      As someone else pointed out this was the family enclosure and the starting point of the Junior Lions. A section of the Dockets stand at the New Den has been provided for families at reduced rates, many pre match activities are provided too.

    • @nrich73
      @nrich73 Před rokem +1

      @@dianaday4819 Before this area was created, the Junior Lions section was in the main stand, the forecourt area next to CBL end to be precise.

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před rokem +1

      It was a Family Mini Stand and stopped the habit of fans, like me, moving from one end or more, latterly, side of the ground to the other at half time.

  • @lenharris6095
    @lenharris6095 Před 18 dny

    Villa fan here, i went to the old Den twice in the 70's, i remember this guy saying when we get to the ground, everyone stick together. We did not have to wait to get to the ground, there was around 2,000 Millwall lunatics waiting outside the station for us, well the police came along and managed to removed them, and escorted us to the ground. This was first visit to Millwall i was only 17, when we got in the ground, i thought ,i wish i would have stayed at home, it was absolutely frightening, it did not matter where you was in the ground there was Millwall lunatics everywhere. I kept thinking what are we going to do after the game, how are we going to get to the train station, but we managed to get there with a police escort, with Millwall fans running along side ,giving us the i going to cut you up sign. I even went there the next year, i thought am i going crazy, but it was a bit better this time ,because we could not even get out off the station, because of the thousands of Millwall nutters outside to welcome us. But when i look back now, i think i am glad i went, it is something i will never forget. I have never been to the new Den, but it looks a bit lame, to the Old Den, i see you still get the old nutters in there 50' and 60.s , at the games, i wonder how many off them were,on the cold blown lane end in the 70's.

  • @pauljackson4278
    @pauljackson4278 Před rokem +4

    Coyl milllll

  • @WobblinJawSports
    @WobblinJawSports Před rokem +2

    History of Football is sponsored by Catley's Car Lot.

  • @paulhill5166
    @paulhill5166 Před rokem +1

    Layer road pls

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 Před rokem

    What language was that?

  • @darrenbatstone2656
    @darrenbatstone2656 Před rokem +1

    I11

  • @TheHullmet
    @TheHullmet Před rokem +2

    Went once, it was a shit hole. New ground built for the future and so much better

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye Před rokem +1

      Yes, nut it was OUR shit hole and opponents hated it. The atmosphere when playing a significant match under Floodlights was described by Kevin McCarthy,Top Football Writer as better than Barcelona's and was very intimidating where you had fans, literally, by the pitch on all 4 sides. Wonderful, memorable days from seeing Millwall win an F A Cup Replay 2/0 against Johnny Haynes and Yop Tier team: Fulham in front of 31,000. Could not get a ticket in The Cup in 168 when 41,000 saw us draw 0/0 with Spurs and 73,000 turned up at White Hart Lane and byy all reports 15,000 were locked outside. Missed 6 games from 1961/62 yo the closure in 1993 and mis it every match.

    • @TheHullmet
      @TheHullmet Před rokem +1

      @@Isleofskye Nah it was a dump. No one cared, that's all mush fed to the masses. Keep getting your balls massaged sheepy sheep

  • @millwallnutter4736
    @millwallnutter4736 Před rokem +1

    Brilliant pal thanks 😊 👍

  • @jamisbillson4872
    @jamisbillson4872 Před rokem +3

    Disgusting how owners who usually aren’t fans and some wouldn’t even know where the club is on a map can decide to leave our old traditional grounds for shit new stadiums.