Few Of Them Survived. Waffen SS Tanks In The Battles For Kharkov. The History Of the German Tanker.
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Today we are going to learn the story of adjutant of the 1st battalion of the Panzer Regiment "Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler", how they were preparing for the storming of Kharkov in early March 1943. In his memoirs, he describes in great detail the hard tank battles, which clearly demonstrate the technical superiority of the "Tiger" tank ...
#history #easternfront #worldwarII #technic #wehrmacht
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it's like listening to an Orc talk about attacking Minas Tirith
My grandfather was in this Unit (in the Instandsetzungskompanie), had to recover many tanks under dangerous conditions. I can not even imagine, what these times were like. He spoke of Charkow as very impressive city with its high rise buildings.
Some kind of luck to survive it and make a family
Great story Felix
Max Wünsche would get the German Cross in Gold for his actions in Kharkov, after the battle, and then the Knights Cross in Feb. 1943. In June of 1943, he was transferred to the New 12th SS HJ Division where he would be the Regimental Commander. Survived the war.
Amazing photos. Especially that one at 12:40 showing the maintenance crews tearing down the road wheel assembly on a Tiger I. I have seen a lot of photos, but never one showing that before.
Das waren wirkliche deutsche Soldaten, Ehre Ihrem Andenken.
Noch mehr Ehre den Russen! 👍👍👏👏
Technical Superiority didn't win this war, quantity and ease of maintenance, won this war.
That's right! The Germans had excellent tanks, but in the USSR they were made 10 times more. Have you noticed one interesting fact about Soviet tanks? They were manufactured from the factory with untreated welds! They didn't waste time on this little thing, they wanted to produce as many tanks as possible))
@louisgarno1309 Indeed, logistics is everything in warfare, since time immortal..
Because someone made the decision that the Luftwaffe didn’t need long range 4 or 6 engine bombers to destroy enemy industrial sites both in the USSR and in the USA .
@@JohnnyReb-tr2fsworse, the germans had no long range single engine fighters. If they did, they may have won the battle of Britain. Without England the US would not have invaded Europe and Germany would have been free to focus on the russians. Either they would have won or the French would be speaking Russian today.
Think this only worked because of the discrepancy in oil supply. If the German had more oil they probably would have made more tanks and been able to field bigger armies/capitalize on breakthroughs/more industry etc. oil was the reason the war was one with tanks being a footnote :)
Very true though, soviets correctly leveraged their raw materials, industry and man power due largely due to the oil advantage
Many, perhaps most, of these photos are little-known in the public domain. They are fascinating in sense they show the panzerwaffe hard a work, the gritty determination of the hard fought counter strike. You did a great montage with them alongside the diary entries.
Amazing selection of photos.
Congrats for your hard and good work! Happy New Year!
Those Tigers were a awesome Tank, and the Crews very talented and well trained. Love the Germans.
Onkel Horst, Pionier der LAH, gefallen im Februar 1943, in Minkovka, 40 km südwestlich von Charkow., im Alter von 19 Jahren.
how they made it across the eastern front is beyond me
I agree. The losses on both sides were simply monstrous.
my both grandpas where in service the whole campain untill 1945 with the Wehrmacht on the eastern front. Both served allready in WW1 aus very young soldiers on the eastern front.. One as a frontline medic. Injured two times. The other as a staff first lieutnenant of the 122th. east prussian division. I grew up with my grandpa who was the first lieutenent and tell you that thy where just very well trained and that they where very tough soldiers.
The photographs used in the video come from several different winters, many different places and many different units.
I didn't see even a single Tiger of LSSAH at Kharkov - which is supposed to be the subject of the video.
That's a shame because they all had the "black square" 5:40 where their ID number was painted.
It would be nice to see the things being talked about.
It's interesting that the journalist was given headphones. Panzers didn't have a spare headphone socket; he must have borrowed the gunner's set. He certainly didn't use the commander's set, and the loader didn't have any.
my father was there with the first und new Panther Tanks. They took out several T34 and anti tank guns and the Panther was with him till 1945 . Bye the way, the turrets of the T-tanks flew away already back in time….
Kursk defensive lines were kilometers deep. Zhukov was in charge. A book I found useful was by Martin Caidin. Title: 'The Tigers are Burning'. He interviewed people on both sides involved in Kursk. I don't know if it has been translated or not.
Is that the book that claims 70 Tigers were lost at Prokhorovka? 😂
@@lyndoncmp5751 no idea. I haven't read it in years. He did say he interviewed people who were there.
@@rutabagasteu
Well a lot of those old books are full of old incorrect data. I've a few of them myself.
that's a pretty good title
This is about Kharkov.
The Journalist "Fernau" was a famous one and even in postwar Germany.
Very,good pictures.
Nice recollection. I've read it Patrick Agte's book but it still good. Nice job of posting it.
Fantastic story... rich in details!
…Already the War was lost after the battle of Moscow ( Operation Tifun-Typhoon) ..That’s why “ Fritz Todt ( General Inspektor für das Deutschenstrassenwessen) got a heated argument with the Führer-befehlstand Ost Preußia “ Wolfschanze-Führerhauptquartier “ at the end of 1941-February of 1942 were he die in an Airplane “Accident “…
_"God is on the side with the heaviest artillery"_
Napoleon.
Ich bin immer wieder erstaunt, das uns Deutschen von anderen (Amerikanern) die Vergangenheit erklärt werden muß. Ob das objektiv sein kann? Wahrscheinlich so, wie die Nürnberger Prozesse.
Anybody who wants to throw the "Nuremberg Process" in your face is an ignorant lunatic. No sane American needs any explanation about WW II. Even Gen. Patton is reported to have said that America fought the wrong enemy, and that's actually true. The problem is that the victors write the history books. The divisive history is always, always written by members of the religion that agitated for the War and enabled the Soviet Union and spied for Russia.
Manchmal sind Ausländer heute fairer als die heutigen Bundesdeutschen unseren Soldaten gegenüber.
Can Germans be objective?
А что вам не ясно в нюрнбергском процессе ??? То что фашизм убил 27 миллионов русских людей ??? 4000 американских солдат , 2,500 английских солдат , вы разницу понимаете ??? Германия потеряла убитыми 19 миллионов солдат . Не забывайте уроки истории никогда вам непонятливым ещё Кайзер завещал не воевать против России но вам не имётся видимо , вы забыли русских казаков в 1814 году в Берлине и Париже ??? Аааа Наполеон тогда вместе с вами и всей Европой приходил к Москве и что ??? Получили по морде и в 1916 получали тоже но вам пропёрло что в России революция началась . А 1941 вы на что расчитывали??? Так опять русские в Берлине флаг свой над Рейхстагом водрузили !!! И теперь задумайтесь Русские всегда уходили после побед из германии а теперь вы лижите сапоги американским солдатам до сих пор с 1945 года хотя американцы не дошли до Берлина ни разу !!! Сегодня ваши танки опять против России воюют и думайте крепко вам что опять морду набить ??? И ведь мы повторим и в третий раз !!! Выходит короткая у вас память !!!
@@Dive2005you obviously cant
In 1943 the Ruski were making around 400 T34/85's per month, IL-2's (each capable of dropping 192 shaped charge bombs in a single pass) were being made at around twice that rate. The NAZI was doomed at that stage.
MC has been churning them out quickly.
Thank you - happy new year to you al all bro.
There were massive oil reserves under Rommel’s feet in Libya 😢
Unlocated and undrilled.
He didn't stay long enough to ever find out
Oil has to come out of the ground has to be separated from water. it's an emulsion. It's not that easy and it takes a lot of technical expertise
It would also have to hauled to port and then shipped to Germany to be refined.
thanks .
Quality Stuff ; Thank You for not using a bot . !
There was one tank for every 1,000 men
Amazing story 😮
Lend & Lease saved the Russians
In 1941, they were saved by courage and fortitude. Of course, there were supplies, but they were just beginning, they did not affect the outcome of the battle. And here's what's next... Operation Bagration went so brilliantly only because of the huge number of American trucks that the USSR was flooded with. In general, the assistance to the Soviet Union was enormous, but they saved themselves at the beginning of the war.
"Russians", or Soviets? Ukraine SSR was "Soviet", as were Belarus, et al.
No they were saved by the west who stabbed our Christian brothers in the back to save bolshevism
USSR was saved by the land lease and NKVD machine gun squads which were shooting Russian soldiers trying to retreat t@@MilitaryClubHISTORY
53% of munitions expended came from US. Would have been a short campaign otherwise.
Germany at that time seems always use tanks as spearhead. It works in the Blitzkrieg, but later in the war when enemy has well defended position, anti tank guns, etc, the very precious tanks sacrificed. Why didn't they use artillery to soften the enemy's defense? We don't talk Luftwaffe as their scarcity of planes is well understood.
Nice pictures
"...we changed the plan
we brought forward the battering ram "Werewolf" and mustered behind the enormous device pushing forward beneath the withering arrow fire and as we neared the gate,
we looked to the left and saw a Nazgul ripping trebuchets from the towers..."
Judging by first few photos and introducion, this is gonna be hell of a story. But Im a ww2 german tanks nerd. And WT germany mains player...
What is the title of this memoir?
What is the source you are quoting from? I don’t see it listed in your notes.
At 6:34 i see a tiger 1 E.
Do you know guys when it was on the front for the first time?
I mean E ? Was in karkhiv in march 1943 ? 🤔
They wasnet at kursk so these could be first examples of this
You're both right and wrong.
You're right to say that Tiger 6:34 didn't exist for Kharkov. The photo is from the following winter.
But you're wrong to think that "Tiger E" means "Tiger with a low cupola".
What's the name of the book you mentioning in begining?
Is this from Georg Isecke?
I could write a large book on all the tactical mistakes made by the Nazis leading to a major strategic defeat.
Overwhelming endless manpower defeated the German Military. Kill rate of 5 to 1...made no difference, still Soviet troops coming and it was the difference. T-34 Tanks in an endless stream., German Tanks shot out of Ammo.
Tiger tanks were nit siuted to boggy terrain
It was a very good tank. But it is worth understanding that the main weapon was the tank crew. Germany had excellent tank training.
They were stupidly first deployed to bogs of the Leningrad front and immediately lost, to be recoverd and analyzed by the Soviets
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547lead to the T34-85 and the IS1+2
Neither is your grammar…..
No tank is suited for boggy terrain, including the T-34.
The Soviets where saved by Winston Churchill, though indirectly. On the April 6th the German forces where forced into invading Greece because Churchill insisted his General's sent forces to reinforce the Greek army in its war with Italy even though the Greeks neither ask for or needed such help. Hitler and his General's then had to invade Greece to protect their flank. The result was the invasion of the Soviet Union had to be delayed until June 22nd. This time and the forces and logistics involved would be vitally missed when we consider how close the German army got to Moscow.
Most of shown tanks are no tiger tanks, they are Pz. lV tanks like the most of the German tanks in action only a few in origin Tiger I tanks. The pictures are wrong to the story. There are lot of allied reported stories about „tigers“, in there fear and respect of the origin tiger at last on the Normandie front , they reported Pz. lV as spotted Tiger tanks. Fairy tales…😂
Anyone else notice the faces on the tank turret at 7:48 ?
Muito bom,!
Obrigado! )))
Be interesting to know what book this comes from.
Seriously consider reading ur script SLOWER. It'll help visualize the verbiage
who is "Eidolf Hiddla" ?
Is this story from Otto Carins book,
" Tigers In The Mud "?
Otto Carius' unit was nowhere near Kharkov.
"PZ 4"? I guess that this is an AI bot? Whoever wrote the script wrote it in the slang language and the AI cannot distinguish "PZ Four" from "Panzzer 4"
Wrong...there are Tiger in the last day in Berlin...
Unsäglich traurig, wieviel wertvolle Leben ausgelöscht wurden.
Yep. Crazy.
Great video, just a little thing, Kharkov is pronounced Har-kov.
Thank you, I'm glad you liked the video. Only with your help can we become better. Thanks!
You cant tell its a (AI) computer voice lol just the way it pronounce Pee Zee Four, for the Panzer IV
@@warwarneverchanges4937not AI. The script said “Pz”
NOT in English. It's always pronounced kar-kov. Just like it's spelled. English my friend is the language of this website.
@@paulnichollsvoice Theres other un natural hickups aswell, anyhow Personally I enjoy it either way, just saying its a computer voice.
R.i.p men
German men, but not the
Russian ones? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
The Russians weren't very good fighters they were told karkov was going to get attacked and they still almost lost ....
But they sent back all germans to their country
😀😀😃😃😊😊
@robertomeneghetti6215 😂 they did. And impregnated their women too. 😂
👋👍💯🔝✅👏👏
Stop avec la traduction un 1 tanks avec des chenilles n’est pas 1 bidon mais 1 blindé ou 1 panzer
man sollte nicht durch den deutschen Titel suggerieren, dies sei ein Beitrag in deutscher Sprache, wenn er das nicht ist!
To thonk a country the size of idaho fought a many front war.and was WINNING- they trounced us for a while- beat the british (as usual)
The British stood against the Germans and we never were invaded as usual the Americans came late in 2 world wars against the Germans As usual. 11:53
Many many not know Hitler lost the Eastern front his generals original ly had all 3 army groups attacking Moscow in force...winter wouldn't have happened...instead Hitler was over confident split them all up in 3 separate fronts...Leningrad Moscow and Stalingrad ..tiger tanks impressive for sure...
How come it was a hard fight but the Tiger was superior?
If you watch enough of these videos, you’ll figure it out…
I agree technical things the didn’t win at this war
Soetwas muß ich mir nicht von einen Amerikaner erzählen lassen. Berichte von euren siegreichen Kriegen in Korea,Vietnam, Afghanistan usw.
Kurt Furnow
We should have sided with you against the red schweins. If only Hitler had been replaced by Admiral Durnits.
Diese glorreichen Erfolge dürfen nicht vergessen werden!
Bald gibt es eine Chance um es dem alten und neuen Feind zurück zu zahlen für diese schmachvolle Niederlage!
You guys do realize that this is not historic, right? It's German "pulp fiction" so to say....just saying.
I dunno... I'm very familiar with Panzers and none of this sounds wrong to me.
@@daveybyrden3936 Just because something doesn't sound wrong to you, it isn't right. I am German and I know these penny novels. You can buy them everywhere here. My Grandpa used to read them and I know this particular story.
@@rantanplan178 OK, so is there any detail here that doesn't agree with history? I'm thinking of the Sven Hassel books; he constantly makes mistakes when talking about Panzers, and he's careful to never name a location. Can you find problems in this account?
@@daveybyrden3936 I mean, do you want to forget that this is actual fiction someone pulled out of his ass, I mean, it's like asking me how much historic value is in the movie "the dirty dozen" or "saving private ryan" and that's the first issue, as it proclaims the story would be based on someone's personal story. Therefore, you can flush everything the protagonist judges and rates down the toilet. This also makes all conclusions drawn from "his experience" worthless. Wünsche was the commander for the 1st tank-regiment, not just a company commander. When it comes to the Tigers. Well, the majority of German tank forces at the time were still made out of PanzerIII and PanzerIV's. In fact, 1st SS only received 9 tiger tanks in total during the 3rd Charkov offensive. They were organized in the 13th heavy-tank company. Now, we don't hear about tons of tigers in this story. I also do appreciate the technical breakdowns of the majority of their tigers mentioned. Than again, this should already be a hint, how much the tiger wasn't "superior engineering". The tank forces had lots of problems with them, especially in the early days. While some of its kinks could be worked out during the war, some major ones were never fixed. Regardless, on the battlefield the tiger was an effective weapon. The "clear technical superiority" is debatable however, given that only 50% of all Tiger losses during WW2 were combat losses.
When it comes to the storming of Charkov, well, the fact that this is fiction already tells you, that this is not what actually happened. Besides that, it's been the last major success of German armed forces in the east. The 9 Tigers didn't make the difference on the grand scheme of things. Is it a nice story? I see why some like it. I also don't see anything about the mentioned tigers, which would be completely bollocks. The problem I have with this is the assumed historic context. Some may not realize this fault, and go around telling people that during Charkov, there were these two tigers doing destroying 56 anti-tank guns, together with the 1st, second and third company or something along the lines. This is a story and nothing more.
@@rantanplan178 The nine Tigers of 1st SS were organised as its 4th company during the Kharkov battle. Their turret numbers all began with "4". It was only later, in the spring of 1943, that the unit was renamed as the 13th company.
Can you point to anything tank-related in the story that's factually untrue? How do you know that it's only pulp fiction? When he spoke of a "black square" on the side of the Tiger's turret, for example, that's the kind of detail that speaks to him being there.
Too late too litte...
That's will be the same soon for the ukrainian army, sacrified for us interest. So sad.
The t34 was easier to produce
And could operate better in
All conditions
Kursk was the end of the german advance
Even in the ardenne offensive
Of dec44 the americans held
Their own against waffen ss!
They were able to keep them in the Ardennes due to a combination of factors. But it's worthy of respect anyway!
DieFahneHoch
Games of death. I prefer fishing, eating, and sleeping with my wife.
The Germans were better fighters. Better trained and better equipment. One German soldier was worth 5 Russian soldiers. Unfortunately on the ground there were 15 Russian soldiers for every German soldier.
Horseshit.
Second
LOL!
First
Try and actually watch the video.
SMH@Children
Who cares if you’re first? You boring bellend.
Third
I look at these photo's andn see the happy smiley faces and think, you've invaded other countries and killed thousands of their people, how can you smile and laugh for the camera.
Because when the pictures were taken things were going well for them. Things were so bad in many parts of Russia they were welcomed by the peasants as liberators… until they started stealing all the food raw materials and murdering civilians.
Russia almost single handedly won ww2 america came un at the very end if both and acted like america won the war. We had our part but russia paid the ultimate price....blood up to 20+ mil russian troops but up to 80 million russians died from 1940-1945
Russia only got in the war 6 mo earlier than us and just counting the resources on Germany's western front , Russia is lucky they weren't out of it before we got in it ! Just saying, logistics win wars ? ✌️🇺🇲. Go Navy.
@@johnking6252 wait what 6 months in the European theater? Better check that barbarosa date again entering the war in the Pacific has no effect on German Russian war. Russia may have not survived without America's land lease agreement this is arguably different then Russia paid with 20 million plus military personnel and some estimates go up to 80 million Russian lives in total and on June 96 1944 between June and August operation bagration Russian army completely wiped out Germans attack group center and had already battled back through Russia across Ukraine across kiev now we made it easier relieving the west front but who they had in the west wasn't hardened soldiers they was all on the eastern front fighting Russia. Majority of battles in WW2 happened in East Europe between Germany and Russia and was without a doubt the most brutal cut throat dehumanizing fights of the war. But after 1942 even Russia was mass producing its own equipment after relocating all of its industrial power to the. East which is arguably the one thing that saved Russia from total defeat. So yea I stand by my statement but if you have a version of how the Pacific war helped Russia in any way I'm all ears but Japan was asked by Germany to attack Russia in the east to relieve some pressure and Japan's response was after you take moskow, basically saying after you win we will and Hitler declared war on America after pearl harbor. They was in fact the worse alliance pact you could come up with, Germans themselves told Japan they was superior there wasn't much love lost between the 2 so don't see how that benefited anyone in the pacific
@@johnking6252 yes logistics win wars and we moved mountains then....today though we have problems moving sandboxes around with out leaving 83 billion dollars worth of equipment to our enemies who openly declare they will kill us all with a smile. Those logistics don't win wars unless your the one making the weapons.
@@republicoftexas4855 your scale is inappropriate then , worldwide, time , mass etc.... just a comment. ✌️
Stalin decimated his own military leadership in the 30’s because he was worried about a coup when he was starving most of the country with his collective program.
Fortunately Russia had a lot of land to trade and they kept retreating had Germany not broken the pact with Russia by attacking them and declaring war on America at the same time Russia would be much smaller today.
The allies were sending convoys of food immunizations vehicles aircraft by ship through the North Atlantic America & was transferring aircraft from Alaska to Russia.
This helped the Russians finally get their shit together to where they could go on the offensive.
*Kharkiv
Kyiv
Some of those riding troops were occasionally obliterated by a hit from a 152 mm gun.