DRAG RACE!! BMW M2 COMPETITION v ALFA ROMEO 4C v LOTUS EXIGE 350 SPORT

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  • čas přidán 29. 11. 2018
  • Welcome back to the 888MF CZcams channel. In this video we put my Alfa 4C up against a BMW M2 Competition and a Lotus Exige 350 Sport. I hope you enjoy and feel free to like, subscribe and comment. There is some bonus footage at the end of the video!!
    To view the drag race of the Porsche 997 GT3 RS 4.0 v Ferrari 458 Speciale click on this link:
    • DRAG RACE!! 458 SPECIA...
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    Thanks to James, Dan and Stewart for participating
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  • @ZoneTelevision
    @ZoneTelevision Před 5 lety +227

    The 4C is one of the most underestimated cars of the decade. It’s hard to imagine that it beats its competitors as handily as it does. With a small tune and some different tires this car will a weapon of epic proportions against cars costing 3-4 times as much.

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +11

      I am already thinking about a new exhaust as I want to enjoy the car on long journeys and the standard exhaust isn't great at motorway speeds

    • @ZoneTelevision
      @ZoneTelevision Před 5 lety +3

      @@888mf4 If one could squeeze another 60 - 100 Bhp out of that motor (bigger injectors and/or a boost controller on the existing turbo) methinks wouldn't be impossible. They over-engineer these cars on purpose, at which point you're probably entering MClaren track time territory

    • @ZoneTelevision
      @ZoneTelevision Před 5 lety +11

      ZappoTan bigger tires, different rubber will solve the traction issues no problem. The mclaren 570 (for example) weighs nearly 1000 lbs more than the 4C. It’s 0-60 time is 3.2 ish seconds. As I say; another 100 bhp will easily put the 4C in Mclaren time territory. I’ll defy you to prove otherwise.

    • @CAR_NL
      @CAR_NL Před 5 lety +19

      I drive it with a tune (296hp and 400nm). Also with Yokohama semi slicks. 0-100 is 3,5 seconds. Straight line performance is equal to the gt3rs from last generation. Quarter mile is 11.7 seconds.
      All the stories about 300+hp 4C's not beating 12 seconds: bullshit! There are a lot of tuners just throwing numbers.

    • @TheLanceGTA
      @TheLanceGTA Před 5 lety +1

      Check the 3rd and 4th gear gaps it builds. I have the Giulietta QV with same engine and gearbox and the way the TcT gearbox bangs in the gears from 3rd onwards would explain why it opened those gaps!

  • @xxxraider9686
    @xxxraider9686 Před 5 lety +225

    The Lotus driver did this on purpose...launch lag and gear miss... every time!

    • @URLAMT
      @URLAMT Před 5 lety +26

      Sean Die yes the Lotus has a far better acceleration time

    • @mrnegrofly
      @mrnegrofly Před 5 lety +9

      Mi abuelita pasa mejor los cambios que el piloto del Lotus.

    • @Clarky006
      @Clarky006 Před 5 lety +25

      Agree! The Lotus was not pushed at all. It would of walked all over the Alpha 😂

    • @MV19
      @MV19 Před 4 lety

      @@URLAMT hahahahaha

    • @dominicjeanb2063
      @dominicjeanb2063 Před 4 lety +12

      EXACTLY... did he short shift everytime to let the 4c shine?

  • @HUMC5
    @HUMC5 Před 5 lety +102

    Lotus driver....hahahaha....

  • @charlesclement383
    @charlesclement383 Před 5 lety +111

    Shocked that the little Alfa 4C beat the BMW. That's the reason I am ordering one.

    • @alejandroarco3016
      @alejandroarco3016 Před 5 lety +4

      think twice man, alfa is not for everybody...I own a giulietta¡

    • @alamos8
      @alamos8 Před 5 lety +9

      Really that is the reason??? LOL

    • @joshua_s5178
      @joshua_s5178 Před 5 lety +1

      The BMW is much heavier !!

    • @elazotacunaos4752
      @elazotacunaos4752 Před 5 lety +5

      The only reason is a drag race?

    • @moham1287
      @moham1287 Před 5 lety +2

      M2 is a great fast street car. 4C is a carbon tub, automated manual, unassisted steering sports car - amazing on the track but not a great road car.

  • @NimaRaoofi
    @NimaRaoofi Před 5 lety +75

    Awesome! I own a 4C and I never understood how could some car reviewers call it a disappointment. It's good to see it being treated fairly on your channel.

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +9

      I think a lot of journalists were disappointed by the steering, which to be fair, is awful from the factory. However there is an easy fix and it only costs £450. Once that is done the car is transformed.

    • @Dolby109
      @Dolby109 Před 5 lety +3

      @@888mf4 And the lack of a manual transmission. I mean its supposed to be a "drivers" car.

    • @LeontariF1
      @LeontariF1 Před 5 lety +4

      Many of those reviewers are here in the US where these cars are 343lb heavier than in Europe. That's a lot considering it only deelops 237hp. In addition to that the car is very small, it feels very cramped inside and also most people find it difficult to name a 4 cylinder 1.75 liter turbo engine a supercar. The stereo they come with is like a $150 aftermarket unit they picked from the internet. Overall, it is a very nice sports car if it is your cup of tea

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +6

      @@LeontariF1 There is nothing cheap about the carbon fibre tub

    • @Dolby109
      @Dolby109 Před 5 lety

      @@888mf4 Where did Leontari say the word "cheap"?

  • @tomhinchcliffe6879
    @tomhinchcliffe6879 Před 5 lety +15

    Listen to how high that lotus revved in 1st gear and how much it started to pull on the C4... The lotus was short shifted in every gear after that to keep it behind 😴

  • @CanadianCaymanRS
    @CanadianCaymanRS Před 5 lety +25

    Great video. 4C is so underrated. I love mine. I dropped 250 lbs off the curb weight (took a lot of work) added a bespoke ecu tune, and worked on reducing drag, and it can now hit 160kph in about 8 seconds. I will be posting videos soon. Great car. Forza Alfa!!!

    • @RaffyUkon
      @RaffyUkon Před 5 lety

      That's sick mate! What is the 0-100kph time?

    • @a1ex02
      @a1ex02 Před 5 lety

      Wow

    • @charlesclement383
      @charlesclement383 Před 5 lety +1

      Looking forward to those videos of the 4C

    • @inSUBout
      @inSUBout Před 5 lety +1

      How did you drop the weigh?

    • @CanadianCaymanRS
      @CanadianCaymanRS Před 5 lety +3

      @@inSUBout a lot of work. technocraft t2 prepreg carbon seats with fixed aluminum mounts, the hood, rear clamshell and glass replaced with carbon, ditched all non essential interior trim including stereo airbags carbon doorcards and kickplate replaced the engine undertray with carbon fiber copy, lightweight battery, removed rear trunk, advan rsii wheels, nitron r3 coilovers, titanium downpipe and full exhaust, and the list goes on.... check out my insta account @alfaromeo4c_r for some pics of the build but its still a work in progress.

  • @LuisKsGameplay
    @LuisKsGameplay Před 5 lety +23

    Omg Danna did terrible launches
    On the other side, my respects to the "Stig" those launches on the manual M2 WOW

  • @RobertKarlBerta
    @RobertKarlBerta Před 5 lety +19

    Love my 2015 4C LE....and yes they are fast stock but with a few minor mods....wow. They also have proven to be pretty much bullet proof too.

    • @molotov2634
      @molotov2634 Před 5 lety

      What moda have you done to yours?

    • @RobertKarlBerta
      @RobertKarlBerta Před 5 lety +1

      @@molotov2634 ecu and suspension adjustment for more neg camber and better stickier tires...and most important... driving school (Bondurant)

  • @Nisalekanayake
    @Nisalekanayake Před 5 lety +2

    I love how you compared all the three BMWs first and also swapped the drivers around! Great choice of cars too! Great chemistry between you guys! You’ve got a new subscriber!

  • @lovecarsTV
    @lovecarsTV Před 5 lety +73

    Surprise results! that's why we love drag races!

    • @revecchia
      @revecchia Před 3 lety

      Surprise? 😭😭😭
      it has always been like this in history. ...
      How old are you 12 ??? Ajajajjahahah

  • @leegubbins3441
    @leegubbins3441 Před 5 lety +28

    Will you stop bigging up the 4c please.dont want people knowing what they are missing lol...its a beast of a car and very very underrated.
    Such a shame its often overlooked by the majority because and i quote "its an alfa itll break down"
    I own the 4c from the 5th gear review...great cars.

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +4

      hahaha. OK I will stop :)

    • @user-lk7zk3oc4y
      @user-lk7zk3oc4y Před 5 lety

      I have a 19 year old alfa 145 the only change it needs is the wheels

    • @xanthuumnihyr5319
      @xanthuumnihyr5319 Před 5 lety +1

      The lotus elise is better and cheaper than a 4C

  • @JimmyPtheman
    @JimmyPtheman Před 5 lety +9

    FINALLY!!! A driver that knows how to use launch control in a 4c. Long live the 4c.

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +2

      LC is so easy to use in the 4C

    • @user-jr8zf6ri3k
      @user-jr8zf6ri3k Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@888mf4Porque no empujaron al Exige?? Solo lo hicieron quedar mal, cambios cortos y lanzamiento tardío mal 👎 👎

  • @tighthams
    @tighthams Před 5 lety +11

    4C fights above its weight. Its HP is underrated. Low gearing gets it out of the hole quick. I think the M2 was coming on at the end as the 4C was running out of breath. Can't imagine what was wrong with the Lotus. Well done mate. I love my 4C too. I don't need to do 6K rpm clutch dumps now that I've seen you do them.

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +1

      Launch control in the 4C is epic and apparently doesn't kill the clutch.

    • @fernandofragoso4118
      @fernandofragoso4118 Před 5 lety +1

      Lotus has drag against it. Too much downforce. Not good for straight line. Without the wings it would be the fastest in straights.

    • @drewster0104
      @drewster0104 Před 3 lety +1

      Lotus would’ve won mate if it had a good driver

  • @Jon.Rogers
    @Jon.Rogers Před 2 lety +2

    That 4C really surprised me! lovely car with the performance to match.

  • @bradleywilkie159
    @bradleywilkie159 Před 5 lety +2

    Nice work. Decent improvement on the last drag where I moaned ;)
    Nice switch around of drives even if I was salty the exige short shifted and smashed a gear. :)
    Good work!!

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +1

      haha - glad you enjoyed this

  • @ryvoltz
    @ryvoltz Před 5 lety +3

    I got the impression the driver in the Exige wasn't even trying. First run flooded with early shifts. All the rest, I can't believe the Lotus can't win over the little Alfa (and I love the little Alfa) with a power difference of over 100bhp.

    • @user-jr8zf6ri3k
      @user-jr8zf6ri3k Před 10 měsíci

      Lanzamiento tardío y cambios de marcha cortos

  • @MartyHealthy
    @MartyHealthy Před 5 lety +31

    This is a great lesson for those who think Horse power is everything in a race it’s not. Good driver, tires and weight means a lot. My QV has beaten cars with twice they amount of Horse power then it’s own love these cars. And please stop talking about reliability, these new Alfa’s are solid comparing to the Alfa’s of old. Yes I did have minor computer glitches yes computer glitches easily fixed, no different from my old M3 engine issues or my buddies A6 problems just saying.

    • @charlesclement383
      @charlesclement383 Před 5 lety +3

      Minor glitches are nothing in a brand new car. I love Alfa.

    • @user-jf8gd3lv7q
      @user-jf8gd3lv7q Před 5 lety +6

      Martin C "This is a great lesson.... blablabla". No, it isn't at all! This video is so unbelievably stupid and fake that it makes me speechless how obvious this bogus is! Just totally bullshit!
      The BMW M2 Competition, despite having 410 hp and a DCT, seems so unbelievably slow in this "race", that it is very clear the idiot driver behind the wheel doesn't give full throttle! It's just a lying shit video full with bogus! Just look at the M2, how hesitant it accelerates after an even bad start but in "full swing"... and then suddenly after 100 meters or so, the Alfa Romeo activates its "afterburner" and is letting the M2 Competition behind it like nothing...??? With only 240 hp against a M2 Competion with 410 hp... Hahahahahahahaha! That's just completely unrealistic bullshit!
      Right from the start, after the M2 Competition only had a bad grip level on its place, then for a moment there's literally nothing more coming from its engine and transmission... it seems to having only something like 210 hp than 410 hp...LOL! How the fuck is this possible? A little Alfa Romeo 4C with only 240 hp should be so damn faster on a stupid straight than the BMW M2 Competition...? In this vidoe it looks just like it has 200 hp more than the M2...! Oh no... wait, it has 170 hp less... haha! Such an acceleration with only a small 240 hp 2 liter fourcylinder engine against a meaty 410 hp 3 liter inline sixcylinder car is just completely nonsense! Forget it!
      What a bunch of lying assholes! Perhaps this "drag race" was paid by Alfa Romeo UK... hmmm??

    • @user-jf8gd3lv7q
      @user-jf8gd3lv7q Před 5 lety

      Martin C "Just saying.... blablablabla". Please, shut the fuck up!
      Little Alfa fanboy, you are talking bullshit! An Alfa Romeo 4C still is a little crappy Italian car. This socalled "drag race" was faked! That's very clear if you'd watch this bullshit on video attentively! A much more sophisticated BMW double clutch transmission plus much more engine power should be so stupidly slow against this Alfa Romeo...??? Really?? Haha! Please, tell your lies to other people!

    • @blademanx
      @blademanx Před 5 lety +1

      @@user-jf8gd3lv7q my brothers mates alfa 4c dusted an RS3 with 400 bhp.....they yellow one is remapped to 280bhp. Your boring mans whip weighs 1500kg. 600 kg heavier than an alfa that gets to 60 in 4.5 seconds on paper....in real world its faster than a 135i remapped to 390bhp which is 4.3 seconds to 60 because of weight........Take it from me, unlike his last maclaren disaster video. This is believable because ive seen it in real life. RS3 is awd and gets to 60 just under 4 seconds...
      that means any figures quoted by manufacturers should be taken with a huge pinch of salt. The alfa acceleration figures quoted are bullshit and in real life its more around 4.1 seconds if its causing rs3 problems

    • @anonlincracing2484
      @anonlincracing2484 Před 5 lety +1

      The alfa got a jump on the lotus because the driver in the lotus was dog shit. Who drag races with the window down and he fucked a gear up on the second race reaction times again on these so called car enthusiasts are shocking.

  • @DKStone86
    @DKStone86 Před 4 lety +2

    I just rewatched the video and still am puzzled about the results. The following times are from "Sport Auto", a german magazine for sports cars which is famous for their tracktests on the Nordschleife:
    0-40 / 0-100 / 0-160 / 0-200 [km/h]
    1,6 / 5,0 / 11,8 / 20,3 [s] Alfa 4C (240PS)
    1,3 / 4,2 / 9,2 / 14,4 [s] Lotus Exige S (350PS)
    1,5 / 4,5 / 9,6 / 15,4 [s] BMW M2 Competition (410PS)

  • @stephencsmpbell3574
    @stephencsmpbell3574 Před 4 lety +2

    Why did the lotus short shift on the first run and then delay his launch on the second run?

  • @mawsleycarvaleting2706
    @mawsleycarvaleting2706 Před 5 lety +1

    Fantastic. Would love to see how much difference mine with 280bhp would be.

  • @TheCarGuysTV
    @TheCarGuysTV Před 5 lety

    Which airfield do you use?

    • @Nine9Three
      @Nine9Three Před 5 lety +1

      The car guys need a 4C!

    • @TheCarGuysTV
      @TheCarGuysTV Před 5 lety

      Is it easy to hire? - thinking about doing a special

  • @EugVR6
    @EugVR6 Před 5 lety +3

    Is that 4C standard?

  • @paultoone3678
    @paultoone3678 Před 5 lety +2

    The best comparison video yet on the various M2’s that little Alfa flies nice work 👍

  • @mrandersonbrumuk3765
    @mrandersonbrumuk3765 Před 5 lety +8

    Lotus drivers shit... poor reaction, poor gear change. The driver of the alfa should have drove the lotus in the 3rd race.

  • @StefABtv
    @StefABtv Před 5 lety +28

    *Cracking video this! Love that 4C :)*

  • @strongerandwiser2023
    @strongerandwiser2023 Před rokem

    I noticed the comp's rear wheels where tucked so its been lowered/running coil overs. What was the suspension setup on it ? Might explain why its launch was good everytime. I know from experience the stock m2 and the comp are pretty much bang on the same performance up to 60 mph and the quarter mile time is very close. I have a feeling that comp might have had some modifications done..

  • @CAR_NL
    @CAR_NL Před 5 lety +26

    My 4C with 296hp and 400nm does 0-100 in 3.5 seconds and quarter mile in 11.7 seconds. Absolutely destroys a lot of cars. See my channel for some vids!

    • @jeanpaulvissepo1863
      @jeanpaulvissepo1863 Před 5 lety

      Whats you channel?

    • @dukes9781
      @dukes9781 Před 4 lety

      Awesome times. Mine is going to have around 350-370hp soon. What mods do you have? Is that at the wheels?

    • @nds19951
      @nds19951 Před 4 lety

      DrJosh what mods are you gonna he doing to get that much out of yours? I’m looking into getting one

    • @memra777
      @memra777 Před 4 lety

      Noah currently full supersprint exhaust including high flow cat, Eurocompulsion intake, Eurocompulsion intercooler
      Hoses, custom tune. I must say changing the standard cat makes a big difference. Sound is amazing. Next step hybrid turbo and Eurocompulsion intercooler.

  • @Silentwitness1978
    @Silentwitness1978 Před 5 lety +2

    Great video.... Made even greater by the fact that "my car" won the day ha ha.

  • @dyhoevt
    @dyhoevt Před 5 lety

    Can you guys also do a rolling drag race? With the m2c and m2

  • @wolf5356
    @wolf5356 Před 5 lety

    Perfect video. Those m2 competition looks are killer though!

  • @TheLOL4DUDE
    @TheLOL4DUDE Před 5 lety +2

    The 4c hase the same 0-400 meters time of the 2005 Lamborghini gallardo. Yet it's always a surprise seeing a 1.7l inline 4 with 240bhp win against super monsters... it's the same engine of the Giulietta!!! LOL

  • @nickchatburn
    @nickchatburn Před 5 lety +8

    I reckon Alfa lied about the 4C performance and power... as every time I have been up against one on track... they have performed just like this. And have embarrassed way more expensive exotica.
    I was surprised how quick they were.

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +1

      Quattroruote timed a 4C using launch control doing 0 - 100km/h in only 4.2s!! And the cars exported to the US are 158kg heavier for extra safety requirements. I think they have slightly less power as well.

    • @alamos8
      @alamos8 Před 5 lety

      It is the sane engine as the Giulietta QV in the same state of tune and emissions standard for Europe.

    • @drewster0104
      @drewster0104 Před 3 lety

      Mate the lotus would’ve been up there but the driver was dead awful

  • @maxfrederick7703
    @maxfrederick7703 Před 5 lety +1

    Is the comp stock?

  • @jeffiles7953
    @jeffiles7953 Před 5 lety +13

    The girl's reaction times were awful.

  • @arturo2909
    @arturo2909 Před 5 lety +11

    I Love the Alfa Romeo 4c, I need it :P

  • @rdvideoclips
    @rdvideoclips Před 5 lety +44

    seems like the girl doesn't know how to drive a manual transmission.

    • @angrysocialjusticewarrior
      @angrysocialjusticewarrior Před 5 lety +2

      Did you just discriminate against her gender?

    • @LuisKsGameplay
      @LuisKsGameplay Před 5 lety +1

      @@angrysocialjusticewarrior AHAHAHAHA

    • @ribbles1699
      @ribbles1699 Před 5 lety

      Nah, she just bogged the launch and may not have realized the smoke was happening until it was too late. Understandable for even an intermediate driver with a totally unfamiliar clutch and power band that you don't have to pay so much attention to in the auto. She's a good sport and that's what counts.

    • @ajwhite765
      @ajwhite765 Před 5 lety

      She's a drifter lol. She knows how to drive. It just shows that launch control and a dct is a game changer. This is coming from a guy who only drives manuals. Gotta admit a dual clutch is quick and launch control is game over

    • @alessiofederici5966
      @alessiofederici5966 Před 4 lety

      Every idiot can Launch a dct/Automatic transmission.... Manuals Need sensibility!!!

  • @frankfargnoli4692
    @frankfargnoli4692 Před 5 lety +1

    Love the little 4C, very underrated. Nice video keep up the good work.

  • @abc20002koonrsr
    @abc20002koonrsr Před 5 lety

    I will keep an eye out for one , hope they depreciate as fast as they go

  • @davieman3443
    @davieman3443 Před 5 lety +1

    The Lotus has very tall gearing which is why it is slow out of the blocks and nothing to do with the driver. I am surprised how quick the 4C is in stock form as I personally did not find it that fast when I test drove one. That's why I remapped mine from alfaworks immediately after buying the car and it's a proper weapon 😁

  • @kneckel
    @kneckel Před 5 lety +8

    Genuinely surprised about the result... I thought the exige would have won... I wonder if they placed other drivers in the cars if the results would have been different?

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +1

      It took 4 hours to film this video and we could only start at 11am as that's when the rain stopped. There was only so much we could film. I thought drag racing three M2 cars and then two races against the 4C and the Exile would suffice, but some people are just never satisfied with the content

    • @kneckel
      @kneckel Před 5 lety +1

      @@888mf4Contrary to your statement, I'm not disappointed with the result, however, I'm just honestly surprised and wondered if the result would have been different as we all saw the result was different when y'all switched the drivers for the M2. I actually like your videos and wish they would come more frequently.

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +2

      @@kneckel Good to hear. Have two more videos going live before the end of the year.

    • @chumaxa
      @chumaxa Před 5 lety +7

      You mean ifthe guy had a shorter response time than 2 seconds, was not shorft shifting or missing gears ? Do not really mind the result, but clearly the Exige is not well driven ...

  • @bootneck401664
    @bootneck401664 Před 5 lety +10

    Girl thinks she can drive, Girl can’t drive 😂😂😂😂

  • @Kingdonnerkebab
    @Kingdonnerkebab Před 5 lety +41

    Well done the 4c. 😎😎

  • @williampowell9013
    @williampowell9013 Před 5 lety +5

    I’m sorry but that driving was so unfair! I’m not fussed about which car won or lost but it was so unfair. The M2’s all left the time and completely different times and some were where really late off the line or just spinning the rear wheels with no throttle control to redeem traction...with proper drivers the DCT should have beaten the manual and the lotus was short shifting and really badly like he was trying to go slowly 🤷‍♂️

  • @alfasnabb
    @alfasnabb Před 5 lety +7

    Love that the Alfa won. Concidering buying one myself.
    The lotus should have probably take this victory though with more skilled driver.
    About launch.. Maybe this car doesn't have it but all exige equipped with the race pack, have launch control (yes the manual version). Most cars in adds I've seen have had the race pack.
    Ref. wiki.seloc.org/a/Lotus_DPM

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +1

      Well the Lotus had two opportunities.....

    • @BlatentlyFakeName
      @BlatentlyFakeName Před 3 lety +2

      @@888mf4 The Lotus driver was terrible lol. Find someone with a reaction time who knows how to drive a manual (and pick the correct gears).

    • @user-jr8zf6ri3k
      @user-jr8zf6ri3k Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@BlatentlyFakeNameSus cambios de marchas como a 4 rpm, terrible ese piloto

  • @EdwardV20
    @EdwardV20 Před 5 lety

    Why can't I like this twice? Really loved the video Mark!

  • @0NetherCraft0
    @0NetherCraft0 Před 5 lety +1

    Why is the Lotus driver short shifting?

  • @goldmax3352
    @goldmax3352 Před 5 lety +1

    I have the same engine, it's in a Giulietta,
    I'm hoping soon it will be a 4C, I love the 4C

  • @dashcamtv1241
    @dashcamtv1241 Před 5 lety +43

    ALFA RULES...

  • @EngineerMontila
    @EngineerMontila Před 4 lety +2

    The race you came to see starts at 7:00 and it's not worth watching. The Exige driver can't launch or shift.

  • @xemnas959
    @xemnas959 Před 4 lety +1

    Short shifting in the Lotus just to show footage of the 4C and M2, might as well call it a camera car and film directly from behind.

  • @photosphotos
    @photosphotos Před 5 lety +4

    Was the lotus driving on his phone?
    He didn’t leave the line until the others had gone.
    The Lotus is 3.8 and the alpha 4.5 so how could it win?
    I’m thinking the videos was biased so the presenters car won a medal.
    I’d like to see the 4c again against the exige 350s without the driving reading a book or making a cup of tea.

    • @Anttihii
      @Anttihii Před 5 lety +1

      Alfa is 4.1s to 60 mph official, there is also one trick which let it go faster. "In race mode, with left foot on the brake pedal, if you pull the right shift paddle the engine will rev to 3500 rpm, but if you also pull the left paddle the engine will rev to 6000 rpm and 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) time will go down to 4.2 seconds"
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_4C

    • @photosphotos
      @photosphotos Před 5 lety +3

      Andys there is a launch mode on the exige in race mode.
      Like I said the lotus will and can beat the 4c on paper and in reality.
      The race was rigged because the lotus simply didn’t move and the driver was asleep.
      Let him re run the race, I have an exige 350s. Put his yellow 4c next to mine and we can see what genuinely happens when there’s some independent people both filming and driving.
      This topic isn’t even up for debate, the exige is simply quicker. It is what it is and if I were wrong ALL the car magazines and car industry would state it as fact to out sell each other’s products.

  • @quayshawndameron1349
    @quayshawndameron1349 Před 5 lety +2

    Poor Becky's reaction time was pretty bad lol

  • @davidbell1683
    @davidbell1683 Před 5 lety +14

    I genuinely thought the M2 competition would walk it, very surprised that the little 4c beat it and the Exige!!😄👍

    • @charlesclement383
      @charlesclement383 Před 5 lety +1

      Me too. I would have bought the 4C before the BMW any ways.

  • @MB-zt9eo
    @MB-zt9eo Před 5 lety +67

    Forza Alfa!!👍👍

  • @WestCoastSupercarsandClassics

    Oh yeah, well done guys! Mark, you're doing a great job as host, and I like your name too! (hint: I'm Mark as well)

  • @gamerclips1882
    @gamerclips1882 Před 5 lety +1

    The m2 comp smokes the other m2’s because the extra hp. You can see the manual m2 gets the jump because he can drive manual well plus the 100lbs diff and then the m2 comp pulls ahead because of that extra hp. I love my 2 series and will deff have a 235 next

  • @danwhitaker5168
    @danwhitaker5168 Před 5 lety +2

    I had no idea the 4C was that quick 😯 and queen B can't launch for shit.

  • @felytakeuchi1147
    @felytakeuchi1147 Před 5 lety

    That video quality. You deserve more views.

  • @stefanorabitti8898
    @stefanorabitti8898 Před 5 lety

    The 4C is full stock?

  • @katherinenguyen8044
    @katherinenguyen8044 Před 5 lety

    Did U use the 3K or 6K Launch control on the 4C? Awesome video and keep them coming🙌

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety

      Katherine Nguyen LC is at 3000rpm

  • @missemmawalsh
    @missemmawalsh Před 5 lety +21

    Gooooo the 4c!

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety

      Need to get you in the car soon!

    • @alphaboy1872
      @alphaboy1872 Před 5 lety

      I love my 4c.. but my neighbors dont. LoL

  • @petrosgaming8900
    @petrosgaming8900 Před 5 lety +2

    I Have a 4c exactly the same spec as the one in the video, but I got the akrpovic exhaust, feels like the fastest thing .

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety

      I bet that sounds good

  • @thomasgttd9063
    @thomasgttd9063 Před 5 lety +3

    what the hell is he doing with the lotus gearbox??? lollll

  • @ScottZ370
    @ScottZ370 Před 5 lety

    7:10 I don't think I have ever seen a camera angle that portrays speed as well as this one

  • @erick2good
    @erick2good Před 5 lety +1

    Nice lovely video, thanks.

  • @shanescarlife
    @shanescarlife Před 5 lety +3

    I was surprised the Exige didn't do better. But no matter, it looked like a fun time!

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +3

      It has a manual gearbox so can't get off the start as quickly as the 4C which has launch control

    • @shanescarlife
      @shanescarlife Před 5 lety

      @@888mf4 good point. I hadn't thought of that

    • @Chrissy-H
      @Chrissy-H Před 5 lety +4

      888MF 7:12 after a poor launch its clearly pulling on the 4C and the M2 in the gears. And then gets shortshifted down the rest of the runway and loses. Second race the driver misses third.

    • @user-jr8zf6ri3k
      @user-jr8zf6ri3k Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@888mf4Muy mal, el Lotus es una bestia, el 4C y el BMW no tenían oportunidad, ya un Exige 360 venció a un Mclaren 675lt, un 430 cup venció a un RS5 y Cayman

  • @danboshskipovsky2469
    @danboshskipovsky2469 Před 5 lety +18

    Alfa Romeo simply crazy!

    • @user-jr8zf6ri3k
      @user-jr8zf6ri3k Před 10 měsíci

      Loco esta el Lotus, lastima que lo dejaron ver mal

  • @LEBXLS
    @LEBXLS Před 5 lety +2

    Une vidéo/test très très intéressante merci.

  • @JoTokutora
    @JoTokutora Před 5 lety +3

    Was the 4c tuned?

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety +2

      It is a well known fact that the official figures from Alfa are conservative. Some owners have put their cars on a dyno and got 270bhp stock. Realistically it will run 0-60mph in under 4 seconds. Official times say 4.5 seconds. I think the weight advantage of the Alfa really helped it to get off the line quickly.

    • @JoTokutora
      @JoTokutora Před 5 lety

      @@888mf4 Interesting. Then again I own the USA model which is 375lbs heavier. Great video! Subscribed

    • @JoTokutora
      @JoTokutora Před 5 lety +1

      @@maxmuller4551 because the CArbon Fiber tube has been reinforced for accident collision, also the suspension was tweaked. Aircon, extra air bags, stock leather stitching in the interiors

    • @JoTokutora
      @JoTokutora Před 5 lety

      @@maxmuller4551 I think the software might have been tuned to account for the extra weight. I think.

  • @lipozor
    @lipozor Před 5 lety +1

    No rain?! Amazing...

  • @seigma5340
    @seigma5340 Před 5 lety +1

    LoL, that Lotus' driver granny shifting

    • @MrRandomTwat
      @MrRandomTwat Před 5 lety

      not double clutching like he should?

    • @MrRandomTwat
      @MrRandomTwat Před 4 lety

      @@maxmuller4551 bruh...boomer or a kid?

    • @MrRandomTwat
      @MrRandomTwat Před 4 lety

      @@maxmuller4551 czcams.com/video/pB-bN-RkJLM/video.html

  • @4gosselin
    @4gosselin Před 3 lety +2

    About 2 years late to this video, but I own both an 4C and an M2 Competition. Fact: Alfa is a more invigorating drive, sounds 1000 percent better than the S55 and turns more heads. M2 with stage 1 tune is a bit faster, solid daily driver, fun to drift but the design is a bit dated. Lets see what the next gen brings. What I love about Alfa is manual rack and the fact at any speed the car is just more exciting. BMW has no car in it's lineup that matches the experience of an Alfa 4C.

  • @alfafender
    @alfafender Před 5 lety +25

    Ha Ha Ha goodbye BMWs. Go 4C !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @kyrieharge427
      @kyrieharge427 Před 5 lety

      And the Lotus?

    • @dinopappous6639
      @dinopappous6639 Před 5 lety +2

      @Latvietis96 ...classic douscebag drinking the German Kool-Aid....FORZA ALFA BABY

    • @stefanodifranco1297
      @stefanodifranco1297 Před 5 lety

      @Latvietis96 What are you talking about,two different categories....

  • @curvetrcalinga
    @curvetrcalinga Před 5 lety +4

    Great video. My 4C is amazing when accelerating towards 110 mph. The TCT gears and ratio have been designed between 0 to 110 mph. After that it run out of juice. I have a 987.1 Cayman with RS350 package and it destroys it after 100 mph.

  • @grahamcrane83
    @grahamcrane83 Před 5 lety +2

    Was the Lotus driver asleep at the launch (both times)?? Also the in-car footage you can hear the driver mis the shift. Driver FAIILLLLL.

  • @johngraham8052
    @johngraham8052 Před 5 lety +3

    Think this video was heavily biased towards the Alfa given how they go to the bother of swapping the drivers for the Beemers (which took up most of this video) and then not the main race. The driver in the Exige clearly was trying not to win with the delayed start and shortshifting. Look how fast it was realing the BMW in at the end of the first race before the footage was cut indicates to me it could clearly have won with a better driver/actually trying. The power to weight of these cars would have them placed in the exact opposite order as the Exige has over 50hp/ton on the BMW and even more on the Alfa. Slightly suspect.

  • @alfo4c489
    @alfo4c489 Před 5 lety +1

    Well i raced against many many Exige V6 on trackdays... 9/10 dont have there power and run poorly.. My modified 4c is as fast as a tuned V6 Exige with +-380HP. I clocked my car 0-100 kph in 3,4s and 100-200 kph in 9,1s.. Thats 12,5s 0-200 kph on semi slicks with +-300hp .

  • @YellowCamaro85
    @YellowCamaro85 Před 5 lety

    What was wrong with with that Exige?

  • @tolishlap4705
    @tolishlap4705 Před 5 lety +8

    Alfa proved that you don't have to add huge horsepower to make a great car!!! Exactly the opposite from the American cars

    • @user-jr8zf6ri3k
      @user-jr8zf6ri3k Před 10 měsíci

      Pero el Lotus los aplasta, mira el lanzamiento y como tira cambios super cortos

  • @suprasupra718
    @suprasupra718 Před rokem

    Is that a stock 4c ?

  • @stefanodan1124
    @stefanodan1124 Před 5 lety +3

    Alfa Romeo....😍😎

  • @babyb360
    @babyb360 Před 3 lety

    Why does the guy in the lotus have his window down? I’m sure that effected it’s time here.

  • @jonathanstamp
    @jonathanstamp Před 5 lety +1

    Another great vid

  • @weiwei8899livemailtw
    @weiwei8899livemailtw Před 5 lety +4

    Alfa already said 0-100 @ 4.5s is conservative number.

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety

      Exactly. It is a well known fact that the official figures from Alfa are conservative. Some owners have put their cars on a dyno and got 270bhp stock. Realistically it will run 0-60mph in under 4 seconds. Official times say 4.5 seconds. I think the weight advantage of the Alfa really helped it to get off the line quickly.

    • @supercarsourcing7724
      @supercarsourcing7724 Před 5 lety

      Actual 0-60 on the 4C is 4.1@@888mf4 Tuned it will go sub 4 easy.

    • @supercarsourcing7724
      @supercarsourcing7724 Před 5 lety

      Great video though Mark and crew.

  • @alexferrari5801
    @alexferrari5801 Před 5 lety +84

    Bye Bye BMW and Lotus....Alfa is the Queen!!!

    • @hondacar
      @hondacar Před 5 lety +5

      The BMW was catching up to the Alfa and it would've easily passed it. Then it would've been bye, bye Alfa.The Alfa 4C is very fast but the M2 is 600kg heavier than the Alfa.

    • @cyrose1935
      @cyrose1935 Před 5 lety +8

      Here we fuckin go again... ..you fuckin lost, get over it for once FFS

    • @R53.charlie
      @R53.charlie Před 5 lety

      cy rose the thing that you don’t understand is, the 4c is a Fiat punto, and it’ll break down, and this is not in America so straight line performance is not the main part of driving, if I thought that I would have bought a gtr because they’re fast in a straight line and around corners, the m2 is built a LOT better than either of them, do you even know what lotus stands for! LOT UN SOLD, basically they’re just a bunch of light powerful cars that are built like Alfa romeos, or a jaguar xj220

    • @v1dCSGO
      @v1dCSGO Před 5 lety +8

      @@R53.charlie you're a fucking idiot honestly, germans can't make racing cars, you were losing your home championship (DTM) in the 90s to alfas (or puntos if you prefer). Racing is in Italian DNA and we all know how cornering is on German cars ;) fuck outta here

    • @charlesclement383
      @charlesclement383 Před 5 lety +4

      Alfa was always Queen,but for me it was KING.

  • @Silentwitness1978
    @Silentwitness1978 Před 5 lety +2

    They are stopping production of the 4C hardtop next year... If you want one get in now. They are undervalued at the moment I reckon.

  • @Drifty325i
    @Drifty325i Před 5 lety +2

    Yeah not sure what happened to the Lotus, these normally leave the 4C for dead. Sweet race though thanks!!

  • @Nine9Three
    @Nine9Three Před 5 lety +4

    Have you any upgrades from Alfaworks? Honestly surprised that the 4C did so well. The performante had a bit of a lead off the line. The 4C is indeed a junior supercar and an exotic. Let the naysayers squawk!

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety

      I noticed when looking back at the footage that the Lamborghini jumped the start....

  • @evansc3580
    @evansc3580 Před 5 lety +2

    Lotus has the best power to weight ratio, followed by the Alfa and then the BMW. The alfa and the BMW have electronic launch control systems and gearboxes. So the Lotus is harder to launch of the line. Driver also miss-shifted a gear. Theoretically, the Lotus can win.

    • @888mf4
      @888mf4  Před 5 lety

      The Lotus apparently has a short shift for 1st but like you say, theoretically. The Lotus had two opportunities and didn't come close. It is much easier to launch both the Alfa 4C and the BMW M2. So in the real world both are faster off the line.

    • @user-jr8zf6ri3k
      @user-jr8zf6ri3k Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@888mf4Simplemente lo dejaron ver mal, los Lotus tienes lanzamiento brutales

  • @liondufflebags8484
    @liondufflebags8484 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you guys for involving the Lotus, not a lot of drag content out there with those little cars, hope to see more of the Lotus brand in your future videos! 🤝

    • @user-jr8zf6ri3k
      @user-jr8zf6ri3k Před 10 měsíci +1

      Nisiquiera lo empujaron, ese Lotus aplasta a esos otros

  • @titor8017
    @titor8017 Před 5 lety +1

    Great video.

  • @Rascallucci
    @Rascallucci Před 5 lety

    That was a huge surprise!! I thought the M2 Competition was going to cream it easy.

  • @IndianaDoug
    @IndianaDoug Před 5 lety

    Power to weight ratio

  • @MavAuto-Pete
    @MavAuto-Pete Před 4 lety

    Think what we all have to learn from this we rely on the DSG auto too much makes us lazy.
    With the manual M2 I think if she sat up a bit higher in the seat and stop keep leaving it on the rev limiter all the while I think it would have kept up

    • @MavAuto-Pete
      @MavAuto-Pete Před 4 lety

      Come on for God's sake that guy in the Lotus got crap reaction time I'm and changed up way too early at three quarters of the way on the drag race and the Lotus should have won

  • @chain2001
    @chain2001 Před 5 lety +1

    That was a surprise!!!

  • @EduSanjuan777
    @EduSanjuan777 Před 5 lety

    How many horsepower in that 4c? Thats surely not stock.

  • @sidewaysfreak
    @sidewaysfreak Před 3 lety +1

    A comparison of drivers rather than cars

  • @joey7253
    @joey7253 Před 5 lety +5

    Wow the Alfa!

    • @user-jr8zf6ri3k
      @user-jr8zf6ri3k Před 10 měsíci

      Lo dejaron ganar, no es lo que parece, el Lotus lo aplasta fácil y el BMW lo logra vencer

  • @vincentrombourg4413
    @vincentrombourg4413 Před 4 lety

    Alfa s stock ?