What I don't understand is you bounce up and down but when I look at boogie woogie championship I see only the legs moving and the shoulders stay level!
Probably TMI, especially from a nonprofessional, sorry for the length, but I hope it's helpful: Good dancers don't really 'bounce'* although it might seem that way with energetic dances, like Samba. Persons who have even basic (individual) dance training for partner dancing learn that the upper body (above the waist) is kept still by both partners (with the exception of shoulder movement, like shimmying, 'shines' and the show-off moves you get to after basics). As you've noticed, the shoulders always stay level for both partners. That allows the 'connection' between partners, with the lead transmitting moves to their partner. When you practice, in front of a mirror, essential, you need to watch for this. (When you see competitive dancers move their shoulders, as with shimmying, you'll see they move them independently of the rest of their upper body, and when they're moving independently of their partner.) *I'm having a terrible time editing this, the screen has changed on me multiple times in an attempt to get me to sign up for a free trial. I can't do this one more time, so, quickly: bouncing is something to eliminate from your dancing, not something to practice and bring to it. I took classes from some top international competitors and, believe me, bouncing was NOT encouraged. Anyone can post videos here, it doesn't mean they're great instructors, even if they look decent to an untrained eye. You've at least picked up the difference with the top competitors, so you realize this. Relaxed lower legs with movement from the knees and a quiet upper body is fine. (Worse are people who think they are seeing bouncing and 'hop' to imitate it, while with a partner.) I can't tell you how many persons I saw who had virtually zip experience (like my own level) all of a sudden pronounce themselves instructors as salsa was starting to become 'hot'. Teachers of group classes don't have the time to go through what is really more important than the steps and timing these focus on. People come with various backgrounds to group classes to learn 'the dance' not 'how to dance' which some of the members have already had training in, and many instructors hope to pick up some private students from these classes. Without even dancing, stand near a partner and try keeping your arm resistance equal to that of your partner--not rigid or hard to move like arm wrestling :) It should be just enough that their forward movement moves your arm back. If your upper body is 'quiet' and your arms have the right resistance, your partner can easily direct your movement and your upper body will move independently. Watch the championships again and you'll see what I mean. It's the same for all partner dancing, although some dances, like Tango, have a slightly different 'frame'. I started dancing late in life, with salsa, and I was awful when I started. The better dancers wouldn't dance with me. It's like tennis, for those serious about it, even beginners (and there are more than a few narcissists). Dancers want someone who makes them look good and who improves their own dancing. (And, most dancers don't give a ra about looks, it's all about ability.) I finally asked the female dancer all the guys loved dancing with how she learned and took privates from her instructor, who she raved about. A few months later I overheard another newbie, who had refused to dance with me, tell his friend how lucky he was to dance with me. He hadn't recognized me and thought I was an instructor :) , If you enjoy this music, I'd really suggest a few lessons with a competent instructor--not someone who simply says they are. Check for creds. I've had 'devastating' damage to both shoulders from some MDs in OR, and the orthopod involved burst out laughing when I asked if I could still dance, after he told me how bad the damage was. (After I found out the etiology--too late to sue--well, he's lucky he's ....) Anyway, I came to this site because I decided to see what I can still do, and where I've moved to has a BW dance club. Life is too short not to dance. There seem to be enough knowledgeable dancers here who should be willing to help you out if you ask 'specific' questions. Again, I hope this was helpful.
@@emilyhops2566 The shag dance, which I believe is predecessor of buggy is danced in the way that upper part of the body is doing just small pulse. You are encouraged to not hop -- keep the shoulders up. This has the advantage of saving energy. What they are teaching here is Lindy hop. I guess it is to get some basics.
@@katecoe8322 In Lindy Hop it is encouraged to have bounce. I think they actually teaching Lindy on this lesson. Bounce helps with synchronisation between the partners. But still the hands should be kept "quiet" to introduce less noise into the connection and communication between the partners. I have also danced salsa a bit. Yes, in salsa there is no such bounce. I am not sure about the reasons.
@@jaryH3 There is a deliberate type of bounce which differs from what new dancers think of as ‘bouncing’ and appropriate use of this. The dancers in this video were bouncing inappropriately. The wrong type of bounce actually interferes with synchronicity and effective leads, or, in this case, the style of the dance. There’s a deliberate bounce to a step which isn’t the same as bouncing up and down as you dance, which is what a fair number of newbies do to mimic what they perceive watching the quick movements of jitterbug and similar dances. I’m in a super hurry so likely haven’t expressed this well.
The second step from the lead is incorrect. For proper momentum for the fellow, the first two steps from the lead should be step back, step back. Not, step back, step across.
It was at rock that swing and they called it Boogie Woogie, but it was beginners. they also did lindy hop but I chose the boogie woogie track because we Don't dance it in the uk.
Yeah, I know RTSF is a boogie-woogie-based festival, I was surprised after I have seen on that video. Then, Those moves may be basics of Lindy Hop and Boogie-Woogie. So, no problem :) Stay with dance Emboloe * ;)
Donig the rock step instead of a kick ball change (or a side rock step like in the explanation) and transfering the bounce to the torso is what makes you think that it is lindy hop, and that's fine, but if they dance to a fast song, they with supress both things cause they won't have time and it will make them use a lot of energy. Si yeah, that's good for begginers, cause they need to understand the concept of bounce and generating energy from the rock step.
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What I don't understand is you bounce up and down but when I look at boogie woogie championship I see only the legs moving and the shoulders stay level!
They seem to glide! Its all underneath them. I havent mastered that skill!!
Probably TMI, especially from a nonprofessional, sorry for the length, but I hope it's helpful:
Good dancers don't really 'bounce'* although it might seem that way with energetic dances, like Samba. Persons who have even basic (individual) dance training for partner dancing learn that the upper body (above the waist) is kept still by both partners (with the exception of shoulder movement, like shimmying, 'shines' and the show-off moves you get to after basics). As you've noticed, the shoulders always stay level for both partners. That allows the 'connection' between partners, with the lead transmitting moves to their partner. When you practice, in front of a mirror, essential, you need to watch for this. (When you see competitive dancers move their shoulders, as with shimmying, you'll see they move them independently of the rest of their upper body, and when they're moving independently of their partner.)
*I'm having a terrible time editing this, the screen has changed on me multiple times in an attempt to get me to sign up for a free trial. I can't do this one more time, so, quickly: bouncing is something to eliminate from your dancing, not something to practice and bring to it. I took classes from some top international competitors and, believe me, bouncing was NOT encouraged. Anyone can post videos here, it doesn't mean they're great instructors, even if they look decent to an untrained eye. You've at least picked up the difference with the top competitors, so you realize this. Relaxed lower legs with movement from the knees and a quiet upper body is fine. (Worse are people who think they are seeing bouncing and 'hop' to imitate it, while with a partner.) I can't tell you how many persons I saw who had virtually zip experience (like my own level) all of a sudden pronounce themselves instructors as salsa was starting to become 'hot'.
Teachers of group classes don't have the time to go through what is really more important than the steps and timing these focus on. People come with various backgrounds to group classes to learn 'the dance' not 'how to dance' which some of the members have already had training in, and many instructors hope to pick up some private students from these classes.
Without even dancing, stand near a partner and try keeping your arm resistance equal to that of your partner--not rigid or hard to move like arm wrestling :) It should be just enough that their forward movement moves your arm back. If your upper body is 'quiet' and your arms have the right resistance, your partner can easily direct your movement and your upper body will move independently. Watch the championships again and you'll see what I mean. It's the same for all partner dancing, although some dances, like Tango, have a slightly different 'frame'.
I started dancing late in life, with salsa, and I was awful when I started. The better dancers wouldn't dance with me. It's like tennis, for those serious about it, even beginners (and there are more than a few narcissists). Dancers want someone who makes them look good and who improves their own dancing. (And, most dancers don't give a ra about looks, it's all about ability.) I finally asked the female dancer all the guys loved dancing with how she learned and took privates from her instructor, who she raved about. A few months later I overheard another newbie, who had refused to dance with me, tell his friend how lucky he was to dance with me. He hadn't recognized me and thought I was an instructor :)
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If you enjoy this music, I'd really suggest a few lessons with a competent instructor--not someone who simply says they are. Check for creds. I've had 'devastating' damage to both shoulders from some MDs in OR, and the orthopod involved burst out laughing when I asked if I could still dance, after he told me how bad the damage was. (After I found out the etiology--too late to sue--well, he's lucky he's ....) Anyway, I came to this site because I decided to see what I can still do, and where I've moved to has a BW dance club. Life is too short not to dance.
There seem to be enough knowledgeable dancers here who should be willing to help you out if you ask 'specific' questions. Again, I hope this was helpful.
@@emilyhops2566 The shag dance, which I believe is predecessor of buggy is danced in the way that upper part of the body is doing just small pulse. You are encouraged to not hop -- keep the shoulders up. This has the advantage of saving energy. What they are teaching here is Lindy hop. I guess it is to get some basics.
@@katecoe8322 In Lindy Hop it is encouraged to have bounce. I think they actually teaching Lindy on this lesson. Bounce helps with synchronisation between the partners. But still the hands should be kept "quiet" to introduce less noise into the connection and communication between the partners.
I have also danced salsa a bit. Yes, in salsa there is no such bounce. I am not sure about the reasons.
@@jaryH3 There is a deliberate type of bounce which differs from what new dancers think of as ‘bouncing’ and appropriate use of this. The dancers in this video were bouncing inappropriately. The wrong type of bounce actually interferes with synchronicity and effective leads, or, in this case, the style of the dance.
There’s a deliberate bounce to a step which isn’t the same as bouncing up and down as you dance, which is what a fair number of newbies do to mimic what they perceive watching the quick movements of jitterbug and similar dances.
I’m in a super hurry so likely haven’t expressed this well.
The second step from the lead is incorrect. For proper momentum for the fellow, the first two steps from the lead should be step back, step back.
Not, step back, step across.
@pa wi You are right.
@@michaelfranke1254 It is correct as long as both partners feel good. Is it not?
ELA NÃO POSSUI A GINGA. OS MOVIMENTOS NÃO ESTÃO CERTOS. TÁ MUITO ROBOTIZADO. VEJAM O BÁSICO DEMONSTRADO PELA DUPLA SONDRE X TANYA.
This is the Boogie Woogie 8 count, also named JIve :)
wooow rilli..???
You 're right: "Boogie Woogie combine 8 and 6 counts" (Jive)
( it's o.k: you count to 6 dancing 8 steps)
Dance teacher here: Boogie Woogie and Jive are two completely different dances, both of which make use of both 6 count and 8 count rhythms
@@PukkarPukkar May could you suggest me a good tutorial for boogie woogie ? Thank you
It's not Boogie Woogie Dance, seems like Lindy hop basics.
It was at rock that swing and they called it Boogie Woogie, but it was beginners. they also did lindy hop but I chose the boogie woogie track because we Don't dance it in the uk.
Yeah, I know RTSF is a boogie-woogie-based festival, I was surprised after I have seen on that video. Then, Those moves may be basics of Lindy Hop and Boogie-Woogie. So, no problem :)
Stay with dance Emboloe * ;)
Donig the rock step instead of a kick ball change (or a side rock step like in the explanation) and transfering the bounce to the torso is what makes you think that it is lindy hop, and that's fine, but if they dance to a fast song, they with supress both things cause they won't have time and it will make them use a lot of energy.
Si yeah, that's good for begginers, cause they need to understand the concept of bounce and generating energy from the rock step.
kaan özdemir Yes this is Triple time Boogie Woogie. Boogie and Lindy are both Swing dances, they are pretty similar in some aspects
aaaah U`re a very professional BoWo Dancer. Hmmmm and Jessy & Kushi not. It`s really very interresting for me.... hahahahahaha
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