Hive Fleet KRAKEN & the Second Tyrannic War | Warhammer 40k Lore
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- Two hundred years after the first discovery of the Tyranids, a second major Hive Fleet hit the Imperium. But Hive Fleet Kraken was a lot harder to defeat than Behemoth had been, because its roots were spread ahead of it by cults lurking in the darkness across the Eastern Fringe.
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I hope I'm not the only one who saw the old codex map of Kraken's advance including 'Graia, Factory World'...I knew I remembered the name from somewhere when playing Space Marine...so we're going back to Graia in Space Marine 2 then, I guess
You go back there in Boltgun!
Graia is a forgeworld now and is one of the playable subfactions for admech on the tabletop. They are known for their stubbornness, which with all these invasions they clearly need.
@@Seruvius 'mi' lord I know your toaster collection is vast and cumbersome, but why not move it to Mars?'
6:32 ‘they threw aside their robes and revealed themselves’ - oh my 😮
It's how they steal your jeans.
I like how this video is 1 hour old and op comment was made 5 days ago. Some chaos magic I smell here. This needs Inquisition to be investigated.
Slaanesh is pleased.
@@ReadyAimFire_ patreon magic ;)
Weird start to porn buuuuut ok
Important that the "Lamenter's entire chapter" is like 300ish marines following Badab and they were also forbidden to rebuild during their penitent crusade.
I feel like this kind of lore - around stuff like the Lamenters, is what we're losing since 7th ed. GW seem to want to keep it to the big picture narrative and not dig into the interesting stuff going on in the background
Per the 8th edition Blood Angels codex, the Lamenters were out of contact for many years, but not "lost", as they are said to have prevailed (8th edition Blood Angels codex). Plus as of the most recent lore, their numbers have been reinforced by Primaris marines. Also, during the time they were fighting Kraken, there was one ornery Lamenter dreadnaught that was with the Deathguard.
@@paulyg405 More or less I agree. Unfortunately, the more popular the setting becomes, the more they feel they have to be epic in scale
@@PrimetimeDthe deathwatch, not deathguard. No lamenter would ever join nurgle, they are too pure.
@@paulyg405and now 11 months later the lamenters got a book
There's a fun bit in one of the Ciaphas Cain novels, where it's mentioned that the connection between Tyranids and Genestealers had been suggested quite early on by certain members of the Ordo Xenos. This suggestion was dismissed by higher ranked officials. Officials that were ultimately proven wrong. Amberely Vail's annotation is essentially "A more petty person would say 'I told you so'"
“And this one will; I told you so”
Given the short stories of Inquisitor Kryptman way back in White Dwarfs 130 and 131 7in Summer 1990 that hearlded the release of ADVANCED SPACE CRUSADE! which introduced Hive Fleet Kraken and Tyranids as they pretty much are now with Tyranid Warriors, Carnifexes and Genestealers.
Versus mostly just proto-Termagants and Zoats in the 1E Rogue Trader Rulebook which described Ultramarines vs Hive Fleet Behemoth back in 1987.
I could make the dubious claim that Kraken arriving was the first narrative progressing event in 40K.
I'm still getting uesed to the way Ian says Tyranids 😂
It's technically correct but sounds wrong!
@@pajnolan4459 Right! xD
@@pajnolan4459the best kind of correct! 😂
@@HistoritorJimaldus oh absolutely!
FUCK
WHY DID YOU BRING IT TO MY ATTENTION??!?!?
First video on 40K I ever watched was Templin Institute's one on the Nids. I was hooked since then. A creeping, parasitic threat larger than all the other put together. True terror surrounding the entire galaxy.
Reminded me of The Flood I loved and was scared of as a kid, and I love them now all the years later. So glad 10th edition is giving them a chance to shine.
Man I LOVE THIS CHANNEL - everytime I see a video up I jump on it, and it's one of the only channels I actively come back to to see if you've uploaded yet, love the vibe and the setup (even if it is green screen atm lol.) Favourite Warhammer CZcamsr for sure
The Ichar IV campaign in in White Dwarf is one of my first WH memories!
Mine too! I started right around that time. I remember the articles about the Scythes of the Emperor and the Giant's Coffin.
The tyranids are the most interesting and terrifying faction in 40k, imo. When I started to play the game, I forwent them for my gaming buddy, followed by a decade of narrative scenarios and cinematic moments, that I still remember fondly. Genestealers rampaging through my Raven Guard‘s backlines, stopped by a heroic and fatal intervention by their captain. Venerable dreadnoughts being torn limb from limb while their living brothers were swarmed by gaunts, all becoming biomass at the end.
I rarely won against them, but every game lost also included so many cool moments, that grew my affection for the Tyranids.
Necrons used to be almost as terrifying in 4th edition. With their revamp they turned into a kingdom straight out of some cheesy medieval sitcom.
I like Tyranids precisely for the sheer terror they evoke, so I tried more than once to run them as my second army (my first one being the Ultramarines), only giving up when I realized the logistical nightmare they are (to me at least), expecially when fielding and removing them from the field ^^".
I was planning to replace them with Necrons (my second favorite secondary army), expecially after putting my hands on the old 3e Codex and its beautiful lore. However, when I read about how they changed the Necrons' lore, I gave up on them too. I get that probably they were filling the same niche of the Nids back in the days (cosmic horror looming on the galaxy), but today they look pretty much Khemri in space and with even more bickering among the dinasties, which is a shame to me.
So, I'm left with the choice between an army that I love but which I can't handle well from a logistical point of view and another one far more manageable but for which I still have to find something really good in its lore.
This is exactly the summary I’ve been looking for!
Thai-Ranids
Thai-Fighters
Thai-Rannosaurus Rex
Whatever did Thailand do to draw all this ire?
👔
5:29 love that classic Rogue Trader art.
Loved the video! Such a enjoyable way to catch up on modern events.
Love your videos! Can't stop hearing TAIranids and BEYhemoth though, when its really TYRanids and BeHEEmoth ;)
In second edition Space Hulk it said that the Blood Angels were the first Space Marine chapter to encounter the genestealer threat on a space hulk. That might make for interesting video at some point. Also I know that in very old lore the Deathwing Terminators of the Dark Angels have their own history tied to the genestealers too
Thank you for making this video. Very concise and informative. Really fascinating to learn the Tyranid lore, I thought they were a background noise like the Orks in the universe not a recent appearance. Keep up the good work.
We're pronouncing it Tie-ran-ids until moral improves!
Is that morale or moraaaaal?
I swear I could literally watch his videos all day😁
Thank you for continuing to make these lore videos. binging through all your other ones too
Love your videos bro
Excellent video. I love seeing old maps & codex art get used again.
I believe that the only way the Nids can get pushed back is by the necrons
I look forward to the sequel.
Good old Yriel could use a new model!
Really enjoying this series!
Tierenids look at me we are not the same
Really love lore delivered coherently with no worries about the presenter being a na... fas... problematic individual.
Another great video as always!
So many names of places and characters from my childhood!
Also dont forget that the scyths of the Emperor were also infected with the gene stealer kiss as well and still affects some marines in that chapter
Another great videos !👍
I think tyrannical wars are my favorite conflicts in the 40K universe
Nice video thanks 👍
Why do the Tyrannids vaguely resemble the Yuuzhan vong from old star Wars?
Great video thanks
What do you think the newest hive fleet will get named? Hive Fleet Big Fish?
Hive Fleet THIS BIG, I swear!
Unfortunately, given current GW naming conventions, it's more likely to be BIGFISHOLAX. More copywriteable.
@@ArbitorIanLeBiathan ;)
Oooh, I googled "big fish of myth" and first hit was 'Bahamut" which I think would be genuinely usable.
Isn't Bahamut and Behemoth the same reference?
Always Entertaining ... ✌️💚
Iyanden was both large and populous by Eldar standards. You include a picture of the text saying so during this very video.
Cassius discovered the genestealer cult long before Hive Fleet Behemoth arrived.
4:40 - Apparently the role of Inquisitor Agmar is being played by John Goodman?
I wonder if there is going to be a Simurgh Fleet in the future
Has there ever been an explanation as to how the tyranids survive and cross the vast distances of intergalactic space? Presumably they would not be able to use the warp because there would not be sufficient psychic energy in those spaces.
Hive Fleets are a biomass. they are large and spore sized masses, like a wave...
They also use the collected psyche of their Genestealer cults as a beacon to navigate through the void
they don't use the warp, they travel slower than light speed. so your question is a good one, if the distances between galaxies are approx 2.5 million light years (between milky way and Andromeda as an example) they would need to consume their own biomass or go into stasis or something. And it also makes you wonder how they could have seen the Pharos beacon or the Astronomicon from those distances. There's a great old short story called 'Hive Fleet Horror' that digs into some of the tyranid questions. Now with all that nerding out of the way, the TLDR is that none of it makes any sense :P
Weird? The comments are from 6 days ago. But the upload is only 10 minutes ago :/
patreon i think?
Time dilation of the Shadow in the warps manifestation!!
If you'd like to see these videos six days ago.... *opens time-travelling trenchcoat of dodgy patreon links*
Is that John Goodman at 4:44?
First I think? Somehow found this in your playlist😊
Love the video as always but not gonna lie, the 'Tie' ranid thing slowly broke my brain. Never heard it pronounced that way before.
I'm just looking forward to the new lore and the idea the tire nids can HATE.
Ugh, I really dislike that personally. There was a great quote in one of the old books from Inquisitor Agmar:
"The more I learn about these aliens, the more I come to understand what drives them, the more I hate them. I hate them for what they are and for what they may one day become. I hate them not because they hate us but because they are incapable of good, honest, human hatred."
Insect lunch fleet 2
They could use Inmate "4474-A-*RIDDICK*"!!
**nods gravely**
I'll show myself out...
Bay-hay-moth??? I thought it was Bah-He-Moth?? Tie-ra-nids?? Tir-ra-nids?? What is going on??
dang Bri' 'ish and their weird English English. smh.
Ian is on a green screen. I suspect he is actually on a Space Hulk
Tyranid is only named after a planet in universe, in reality some creator liked the portmanteau of Tyrant and nid, a common word ending with n taxonomy, especially bees. So just as one might say tyrannical with a softer I sound, one might say it with a harder I sound. The in-universe name is clearly a retroformation to make it work.
Yeah, this is what I think. The original (as far as I remember) was as you say Tyrant. But of course, that was in the days before audiobooks and youtube, so nobody actually knew. And at some point the trend became 'tirranid', EVEN THOUGH they're led by, say, Hive Tyrants.
@@ArbitorIan hive TYRANT has nothing to do with tyranids, the same way you have hive guards, tyrant guards and tyranid primes, they are all named after their behavior within the swarm, and the old concept that the leaders (hive tyrants) act their will upon mindless swarms, like a tyrant imposing its will upon those below.
This stems from the old lore vision of the tyranids, the same way necrons, that have not been fully fleshed out into the modern times.
Back in the day, the spotlight only shinned on the imperium, space marines and their characters, orks, necrons, nids, they were all just cannon fodder to prop the imperium, pay no mind to those xenos.
@@ArbitorIan "EVEN THOUGH they're led by, say, Hive Tyrants"
Henceforth those shall be known as Hive Tirrants, just to make it fit :)
Wouldn't surprise me. Skaven comes from Scavenger so the convention fits
@@ArbitorIan not having English as a first language I always said "tye-ranid" precisely because they are led by Hive Tyrants so I assumed the name Tyranid basically meant "small tyrant" or "related to a tyrant"
I'm old enough that I still haven't forgiven GW for rolling Genestealers into the Tyranid lore. Also making Dark Angels Green. And bring back native american deathwing!
Hunger is the only reason
The eldar population in the current setting can’t be more than 10 million cause I’ve heard too many retelling’s of eldar slaughters and they don’t appear to reproduce especially quickly even under the stress of endangerment
Poor elves have performance anxiety?
Ironic
it's almost like they´re the tragically dying race of the 40k
Worst of all the Hive fleets was Hive Fleets Jerry.
Jerry was a different kind of Hive Fleet..."special" was the least offensive term.
Yes, they were the "special needs" fleet- they clumsily swarmed into each system, making everyone feel bad about killing them. Some chapter of Ultramarine even tried to show them how to rip and tear at the defenses, but it was all a big mess, really.
In the end, the Imperium seeded three small systems to Hive Fleet Jerry and told them that they'd routed the Emperor's forces, gave the Swarmlord a blue ribbon and a hug and departed the planet.
I wish the 10e Tyranids were a different hive fleet. Getting tired of “Leviathan - Again!”
Leviathan
Leviiathan
Leviiiathan
Levivathan
Levvathan
Teer-an-ids, bro. Teer-an-ids.
You know nothing
@daveeol1987 Well formed argument.
@@jeffblye7913 bro you know nothing bro
@daveeol1987 That's better, but still doesn't quite make any kind of rational point pertinent to the pronunciation of Teer-an-ids.
@@jeffblye7913 do you correct everyone who say tomato the wrong way in such a condescending way aswell?
So happy to hear somone else finally saying Tyranids correctly! 😊
See? *looks around the comments section*
SEEE?
How on the big E' holy light is this correct? Even GW made a video to address the correct pronunciantion of multiple things (including tyranids).
@@MagralhoPT what do some guys in 2023 know about the origional pronunciation..... thats right nothing
@@daveeol1987 what is your comment meant to say? Cant tell if its a tirade against what pronunciation, care to elaborate?
I just use the lattest GW info as the most up to date and correct source of info, after all, they are the creators.
@@MagralhoPT are they the original creators?
BUGS
So relieved someone else says TIE-ranids. I slowly started saying TEA-ranids but nah, Tyranids!
I gotta say, Hive Fleet Kraken doesn't have one of the best paint schemes. The red chitin and warm flesh tones just don't look as great as Leviathan with purple chitin and cool pale flesh tones. Levithan flesh can have shades of red, pink and purple.
Hmm. I've got too much Tyranid paint schemes on the brain, I'm thinking of how to paint the Leviathan box.
Yea, Kraken paint scheme is so lame...
Your pronunciation of Tyranids (TEAR-rin-Nids) was a bit distracting, but otherwise riveting narrative. Thank you! 🤙🏼😎
Its not diatracting, its WRONG and infuriating.
@@MagralhoPT 👍
I've always pronounced it the same as Ian does, like "Tyrant". I can see doing it like "Tyranny" as an acceptable alternative, but I have no idea why people get so annoyed about it.
@@johnnybigbones4955 its fine that you have no idea why people are upset. Gw confirmed the correct pronunciation (and its not the initial one in this video) so, lets all just get along and do it right from now on
@@MagralhoPT haha pronunciation nazi
4 genestealer cultists downvoted.
comment for the comment god!
Your outro music is too loud and the volume is too high. No one trying to fall asleep will watch your channel this way.
Gotta love all the nerds in the comment section who thinks there's a single way to pronounce thing😁
0:00 tyranids is not pronounced this way! Say it properly!
I bet you aren't even the real swarmlord!
@@ArbitorIan ehe ofc Im not! Im just a dude...
@@ArbitorIan Looking forward for your covering of the 4th tyrannic war! (With proper addressing the faction)