I feel like the amount of work and ingredients you used in the bigger bricks doesn’t outweigh the plain paper smaller bricks. They only burned about 50% longer but judging between the two methods used to make them I would think the easiest would be the smaller bricks. And you would also be able to make more bricks in the same amount of time with also last time needed to dry them
Almost right. But its really annoying to feed the stove often, so i would say, there is a place for denser (not bigger) pieces. I also put some sawdust, and every kind of tiny pieces of cellulose waste, left over charcoal powder, whatever comes in the way, and make sense to enrich the fuel.
You don't seem to own a wood fire. Even burning softwood is a pain in the arse having to get up and feed the fire every 30 min. Call me lazy but I don't want to touch it more than every hour and 2-3 hours is better and achievable with decent size hardwood. I'd rather put in the time to make them bigger and last longer than get up all the time when I'm relaxing in front of the heater than be constantly fiddling with it.
@@glumpy10 You don't need to feed a wood stove every 30 minutes with softwood. I have a little wood stove for a tent and it's more like an hour once you get it going with bigger pieces of raw wood. I know people with larger wood stoves in their homes and they put wood in like every 4-5 hours. Personally, I'm not convinced of how practical these homemade bricks are for burn time, though they would be more practical for camping as they take up less space than regular firewood.
I think you created a superior Product! I have wondered about doing these but using Veg oil instead of water. The paper should break up in the oil although it may need a longer soak which shouldn't be a problem, you could press out the excess and the Veg oil would eventually skin and dry particularly in the sun and wind. Long as they stayed together they wouldn't need to dry out and the oil would add I calculate 2-3 Times the heat/ energy value of wood which would be the paper/ sawdust. They should work out far more powerful heat wise than solid timber given the energy density of oil to wood.
I like that thought! I think the trick to making that economical would be to find a source of free oil, that way if it takes 4-5 gallons your not having to buy it. maybe mix it in water first then when its a pulp dry it out a bit before switching to oil on the remix.
@@Bucket247 Would have never crossed my mind to buy it! I have literally got tens of thousands of litres for free over the years from restaurants, clubs, fish and chip shops etc. Thinking about it, Lard or chicken fat may be even better for this use. Once it cools it would dry and solidify all on it's own. Heat it to mix the paper, press it and let it cool and ready to use!
Just make them with water. That will reduce the mess and smell on long term storage. Soak them in oil few min before use. Also don't fill the stove with oil bricks couse oil got a lot of power :)
That's exactly what I'm looking for...fire starters!! Notice how fast the fire gets going. Lay some real wood on top of a couple of these in the fire pit and I'm thinking I'll build a nice, reliable fire. I simply suck at using kindling and I've got an entire cord of wood that I struggle to use.
Hmmm. The next video recommended by CZcams after this one is on making your own charcoal. I wonder what would happen if you converted your paper bricks to charcoal before using them. Would they behave like charcoal briquettes?
Never thought about that, interesting question. I haven’t seen anything on YT on that. I’m just now thinking about doing this stuff , not able to cut firewood anymore.
very interesting video. It would be an interesting experiment to see the same 3 bricks burning vs 3 fir logs burning and taking the temperature at 5 min intervals. graph the heat out put vs time
You said that your improved bricks were 40% bigger and as it turns out they burned 40% longer. Not sure it was worth the effort as technically there is no improvement. I did however prefer the burn of the larger bricks.
Your test was about size, smaller always burns faster. In order to be more fair, cause you were timing the event, weighing the bricks and putting an equal weight of both, irregardless of how many.
this and previous vid are both the best, A question or two. when these burn do they release flying ash into the air? What does the smoke smell like? wood or chemical or other smell? I don't want to annoy the neighbours... thanks!
I saw no ash at all in the air and to tell you the truth I didn't notice any smell at all. That's not to say there wasn't a smell but if there was i sure didn't notice one.
It would be interesting to know how hot they were burning. Would someone be able to boil water or cook a meal using the briquettes? No sawdust vs added sawdust. Please run such a burn test if you get a chance. Thank you.
@@babypower9582 Not really. Some flames produce too little energy to heat up water enough to bring it to a boil. Water is able to absorb a lot of energy (really, more than most metals), to heat up one degree, so you need a pretty hot flame to push it beyond 212 F/100 C.
@@a0flj0 it smells like paper so i don't cook with them but i use them to heat entire house so there is enough energy. Got a video if you wanna check .
That's a lot of work or a 54 minute burn time considering the materials needed as well as the toxins you're exposed to burning that type of printed waste (ink and plastics coated paper, etc..).
@@bashereddin1971 But if he uses 2 small ones in place of 1 big one, he's actually using more energy. With the bigger ones you only take out half as many, only have half as to put the pipes in and take out again, and there's half as many to move around multiple times.(to drying area, storage area, inside area for use, and trips to get twice as many to put in fireplace) The bigger ones are quite a bit more efficient to make labor wise.
Made a mixture of used, dried out coffee grounds with wood pellets and enough Gulf Wax to bind a 50/50 mix of both. packed into small waxed bathroom cups, leaving a bit of room at the top. These burn 20+ minutes and are great for camping! Not to be used to cook food directly of course, but excellent for heating water for drinks and dehydrated meals...
I like the idea of bigger denser brickettes...and the color crystals. Seems you doubled burn time via the addition of saw dust/flour and double pressing. How much does each brickette weigh approximately once dried? Usage and application seems good for patio fire pits where you now have on hand fuel and know burn time per 3 bricks, adding extra bricks as needed...through the party. Yes?
Hi, I got two question: First is: is it make more smoke than normal wood. And what do you think, adding leaves to the mixture would make any significant change to the texture, burning time or smoke?
You will need alot!!!! You need access to copious amounts of paper, and you should be pressing them out year round. They dry faster in the summer so thats my favorite time to press. Then store them dry, cover them from moisture.
Hi Gary, I personally don't use them for heat, I only burn them in the summer because they don't spark and pop like wood does. San Diego is dry and hot in the summer and I live in a rural fire hazard area. So wood burning is out...but i like a little ambience in my man cave and I have access to tons of shredded paper from work so they work perfectly for that. Plus I wouldn't know how to go about measuring the heat.
Probably a silly question but why not makw more holes then plug the bottoms of the holes and pour in some "volatile liquid"? Vegetable oil or lamp oil seem good candidates. Let them soak for another week or so soaking.
Frederick Wise I think thats a great idea! Maybe even use something that solidifies like candle wax that you could light but I like your idea as long as the liquid doesn’t evaporate over time if you don’t use the bricks for a yr or so. 👍🏻
@@Bucket247 Can you make them a size that will ALSO fit into a metal baking pan? THEN do the fossile fuel soak in the few hours (day or so - as determined by trial) before use, leave em in the in the pan until lighting them. Maybe you could adapt some of this guy's ideas. czcams.com/video/HulQ9vDYmXQ/video.html
@@Bucket247 Idea #2 I have not had to use this yet but.... I have put a "T" in the exhaust pipe for my furnace (It is capped now). Using an elbow to go down from the main chimney line (my T exits sideways not down yo get better draft) and a large metal "semi hemisphere" (remember the aluminum "sleds" kids had back in the 70's and 80's) cut a hole just a little smaller than the furnace pipe and fasten that aluminum 'shroud' under the elbow. do the burning below the shroud, let the chimney carry off fumes. You could even use the top of a old BBQ grill - AND its a good idea to have a CO2 detector handy. I intend to use charcoal brickettes, (probably also soak em in the furnace fuel oil.) This is too much hard work for a disabled old man. LOL During power outages judicious use could keep pipes from freezing and even do some cooking and making COFFEE!!!!!!!!! PS the greater the distance from your fire to the chimney the more pipe metal surface you will have to radiate the heat that goes up the pipe!!
The thing is bud. This is totally free heat. If you can get paper for free. The couple cents you spend in electric and water to make these, it costs was less than cutting, loading, splitting, and driving. This is something you could do in a basement for a few short hours. You can use scrap mail, bills, and newspaper. Paper towels and tissues. Plus if you use traditional wood you have sawdust to use as well. So you can load a few of these in there instead of loading all wood all the time.
You gotta have access to alot of paper!....and alot of time. I have to designate about a full day to punch out about 60 bricks with the small set up I have, if i were going off grid I’d weld up my own set up so i could punch out 10-15 bricks at a time as well as make them slightly larger. I took about a dozen of em camping last yr and was very impressed with how long they burned.
You can heat a house and cook only with those. BUT need to have some decent gear and a lot of paper. Also you can mix it with sawdust, dry grass, shreded leaves, coffe...whatever it burns . 1 paper : 2 sawdust + enough pressure will do the job. Once is dry you can add waste oil to them. That will give a nice power boost.
@@babypower9582 I’m thinking about playing around with this, I’m planning on using my 27 ton log splitter to do the compacting. With a couple modifications of course.
To much pissing about to make these, in less time you could cut up a dead tree and have much better burning times, most of that office paper has chemicals in it so it's not good to burn it, that's my feeling anyway. Cheers
No. Just no. Cutting down a tree is quite a chore. I don't expect you to know that because you've likely never done it. Also, wood needs to be split and seasoned. That takes a lot of effort and time. This is way better as a supplementary heat source. If you're using these to heat your home, then you shouldn't worry about the hot air since that's either sealed or being vented off.
varun009 I live off grid and I know the process for wood prep and seasoning. I use a saw bench and log splitter for prepping my wood, it also helps to have a wood heater that has a high efficiency so that the wood burns cleaner and hotter, I only burn wood under 16% moisture content.
Get a paper shredder and make your own "shreds". Hmmmm Does Kinkos sell or give away their 'scrap'? DONT USE COLORED PAPER OR MAGAZINES!!!!!!!! THE COLORED INKS GIVE OFF POISONOUS FUMES!!!!!! THE SMALL AMOUNT OF BLACK PRINT IS ENUF OF A HAZARD. LOL
LaRaine Barton but thats you... the world doesn’t revolve around La Raine. What about the guy that lives in India and doesn’t have trees but lots of paper filled trash cans? Maybe we could just send him over to your place where he can cut down a tree 🌲? Or.... maybe you could open your eyes to the rest of the world not living on LaRaines property.
Some people forgot they were watching newspapers and cardboard burning for over 10 seconds, which is the impressive part.
😆😆 True!
...the poor little guys had to lay down and have a nap at 20 minutes! LOL
You are AWESOME! Thank you for sharing this!
Just the video I was looking for. Thank you!
nice! burns about as long but maybe less hot than some hardwood. definitely worth the effort especially if large batch processing.
I feel like the amount of work and ingredients you used in the bigger bricks doesn’t outweigh the plain paper smaller bricks. They only burned about 50% longer but judging between the two methods used to make them I would think the easiest would be the smaller bricks. And you would also be able to make more bricks in the same amount of time with also last time needed to dry them
Almost right. But its really annoying to feed the stove often, so i would say, there is a place for denser (not bigger) pieces.
I also put some sawdust, and every kind of tiny pieces of cellulose waste, left over charcoal powder, whatever comes in the way, and make sense to enrich the fuel.
You don't seem to own a wood fire. Even burning softwood is a pain in the arse having to get up and feed the fire every 30 min. Call me lazy but I don't want to touch it more than every hour and 2-3 hours is better and achievable with decent size hardwood. I'd rather put in the time to make them bigger and last longer than get up all the time when I'm relaxing in front of the heater than be constantly fiddling with it.
@@glumpy10 then again, I seem to have to get up every 20 minutes to beer, so might as well chuck another brickit in the fire. :)
@@glumpy10 ...this is a really good point...those of us who don't rely on direct fire lose sight of the practical details :)
@@glumpy10 You don't need to feed a wood stove every 30 minutes with softwood. I have a little wood stove for a tent and it's more like an hour once you get it going with bigger pieces of raw wood. I know people with larger wood stoves in their homes and they put wood in like every 4-5 hours. Personally, I'm not convinced of how practical these homemade bricks are for burn time, though they would be more practical for camping as they take up less space than regular firewood.
I think you created a superior Product! I have wondered about doing these but using Veg oil instead of water. The paper should break up in the oil although it may need a longer soak which shouldn't be a problem, you could press out the excess and the Veg oil would eventually skin and dry particularly in the sun and wind. Long as they stayed together they wouldn't need to dry out and the oil would add I calculate 2-3 Times the heat/ energy value of wood which would be the paper/ sawdust. They should work out far more powerful heat wise than solid timber given the energy density of oil to wood.
I like that thought! I think the trick to making that economical would be to find a source of free oil, that way if it takes 4-5 gallons your not having to buy it. maybe mix it in water first then when its a pulp dry it out a bit before switching to oil on the remix.
@@Bucket247 Would have never crossed my mind to buy it! I have literally got tens of thousands of litres for free over the years from restaurants, clubs, fish and chip shops etc. Thinking about it, Lard or chicken fat may be even better for this use. Once it cools it would dry and solidify all on it's own. Heat it to mix the paper, press it and let it cool and ready to use!
Just make them with water. That will reduce the mess and smell on long term storage.
Soak them in oil few min before use.
Also don't fill the stove with oil bricks couse oil got a lot of power :)
Use the smaller ones as firefighters for the bigger ones!
That's exactly what I'm looking for...fire starters!! Notice how fast the fire gets going. Lay some real wood on top of a couple of these in the fire pit and I'm thinking I'll build a nice, reliable fire. I simply suck at using kindling and I've got an entire cord of wood that I struggle to use.
Hmmm. The next video recommended by CZcams after this one is on making your own charcoal.
I wonder what would happen if you converted your paper bricks to charcoal before using them.
Would they behave like charcoal briquettes?
Never thought about that, interesting question. I haven’t seen anything on YT on that. I’m just now thinking about doing this stuff , not able to cut firewood anymore.
very interesting video. It would be an interesting experiment to see the same 3 bricks burning vs 3 fir logs burning and taking the temperature at 5 min intervals. graph the heat out put vs time
You said that your improved bricks were 40% bigger and as it turns out they burned 40% longer. Not sure it was worth the effort as technically there is no improvement. I did however prefer the burn of the larger bricks.
Great job and excellent video. Thanks.
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Your test was about size, smaller always burns faster. In order to be more fair, cause you were timing the event, weighing the bricks and putting an equal weight of both, irregardless of how many.
Riding Mower irregardless isn’t actually a word...it’s...regardless
@@danakarloz5845 Or "irrespective".
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*irrspectgardless
this and previous vid are both the best,
A question or two. when these burn do they release flying ash into the air? What does the smoke smell like? wood or chemical or other smell? I don't want to annoy the neighbours... thanks!
I saw no ash at all in the air and to tell you the truth I didn't notice any smell at all. That's not to say there wasn't a smell but if there was i sure didn't notice one.
It would be interesting to know how hot they were burning. Would someone be able to boil water or cook a meal using the briquettes? No sawdust vs added sawdust. Please run such a burn test if you get a chance. Thank you.
Is a flame...it will burn and cook like any other flame :)
@@babypower9582 Not really. Some flames produce too little energy to heat up water enough to bring it to a boil. Water is able to absorb a lot of energy (really, more than most metals), to heat up one degree, so you need a pretty hot flame to push it beyond 212 F/100 C.
@@a0flj0 it smells like paper so i don't cook with them but i use them to heat entire house so there is enough energy. Got a video if you wanna check .
That's a lot of work or a 54 minute burn time considering the materials needed as well as the toxins you're exposed to burning that type of printed waste (ink and plastics coated paper, etc..).
They're 40% bigger but only burn a little over 33% longer.
I’m sure there are a multitude of variables that can in some instances get the numbers closer. Then again in some instances... farther.
perilous isms ............ you’re killing me with common sense!!!! 🤨
I’ll try to keep my faffing to a minimum! 👍🏻
@@bashereddin1971
But if he uses 2 small ones in place of 1 big one, he's actually using more energy. With the bigger ones you only take out half as many, only have half as to put the pipes in and take out again, and there's half as many to move around multiple times.(to drying area, storage area, inside area for use, and trips to get twice as many to put in fireplace)
The bigger ones are quite a bit more efficient to make labor wise.
(54-38)/38=0.42 42% longer burn
It's 42% longer and it looked to be a hotter, better quality flame.
Thanks for the video sir!
If the size ( length x breath x height ) was mentioned, would help people to make easily. Still good and informative vedio. Thanks so much.
I wonder if you could use some method of packing it into a tube shape to increase surface area.
I’ve seen ones done thru tubes, i like the idea!
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Yes you can :)
Nicely done, thank you
Just Red ....👍🏻
Try to mix in some wood pellets from a wood pellet stove I bet that would really last a long time!
Made a mixture of used, dried out coffee grounds with wood pellets and enough Gulf Wax to bind a 50/50 mix of both. packed into small waxed bathroom cups, leaving a bit of room at the top. These burn 20+ minutes and are great for camping! Not to be used to cook food directly of course, but excellent for heating water for drinks and dehydrated meals...
I've not found wood pellets to be very good in a normal stove, methinks they work best in a pellet stove, odd that!
I like the idea of bigger denser brickettes...and the color crystals. Seems you doubled burn time via the addition of saw dust/flour and double pressing. How much does each brickette weigh approximately once dried? Usage and application seems good for patio fire pits where you now have on hand fuel and know burn time per 3 bricks, adding extra bricks as needed...through the party. Yes?
Mine weigh usually between 13 and 15 oz each and they would be perfect for just what you described! 👍🏻👍🏻
Great if you consider you doubled the thickness you did get twice the burn time
Hi, I got two question: First is: is it make more smoke than normal wood. And what do you think, adding leaves to the mixture would make any significant change to the texture, burning time or smoke?
You have more , free , burning material.It is good
How many of these would you need to make to last through a winter? And is the 3 month trying time necessary? What do you do when it rains?
You will need alot!!!! You need access to copious amounts of paper, and you should be pressing them out year round. They dry faster in the summer so thats my favorite time to press. Then store them dry, cover them from moisture.
Pellet mod dump hopper, teg coupled to the stove and all you are left with is making pellets.
3 days to produce, 3 months to cure, 30 minutes to consume ;-)
It’s actually 4 hrs to produce and 2-3 weeks to cure.
You’re only comparing how fast bricks from each batch burn. That doesn’t tell us how much heat they produce. How about measuring that?
Hi Gary, I personally don't use them for heat, I only burn them in the summer because they don't spark and pop like wood does. San Diego is dry and hot in the summer and I live in a rural fire hazard area. So wood burning is out...but i like a little ambience in my man cave and I have access to tons of shredded paper from work so they work perfectly for that. Plus I wouldn't know how to go about measuring the heat.
Probably a silly question but why not makw more holes then plug the bottoms of the holes and pour in some "volatile liquid"? Vegetable oil or lamp oil seem good candidates. Let them soak for another week or so soaking.
Frederick Wise I think thats a great idea! Maybe even use something that solidifies like candle wax that you could light but I like your idea as long as the liquid doesn’t evaporate over time if you don’t use the bricks for a yr or so. 👍🏻
@@Bucket247 Can you make them a size that will ALSO fit into a metal baking pan? THEN do the fossile fuel soak in the few hours (day or so - as determined by trial) before use, leave em in the in the pan until lighting them.
Maybe you could adapt some of this guy's ideas.
czcams.com/video/HulQ9vDYmXQ/video.html
@@Bucket247 Idea #2 I have not had to use this yet but.... I have put a "T" in the exhaust pipe for my furnace (It is capped now). Using an elbow to go down from the main chimney line (my T exits sideways not down yo get better draft) and a large metal "semi hemisphere" (remember the aluminum "sleds" kids had back in the 70's and 80's) cut a hole just a little smaller than the furnace pipe and fasten that aluminum 'shroud' under the elbow. do the burning below the shroud, let the chimney carry off fumes.
You could even use the top of a old BBQ grill - AND its a good idea to have a CO2 detector handy.
I intend to use charcoal brickettes, (probably also soak em in the furnace fuel oil.)
This is too much hard work for a disabled old man. LOL
During power outages judicious use could keep pipes from freezing and even do some cooking and making COFFEE!!!!!!!!! PS the greater the distance from your fire to the
chimney the more pipe metal surface you will have to radiate the heat that goes up the pipe!!
Asked and answered! 👍
Indeed!👍🏻👍🏻
how tuff are they could you possible use them as a low quality building material?
Very good question.
im not loading the stove every 30 minutes
The thing is bud. This is totally free heat. If you can get paper for free. The couple cents you spend in electric and water to make these, it costs was less than cutting, loading, splitting, and driving. This is something you could do in a basement for a few short hours. You can use scrap mail, bills, and newspaper. Paper towels and tissues. Plus if you use traditional wood you have sawdust to use as well. So you can load a few of these in there instead of loading all wood all the time.
iM nOt lOaDiNG tHe sTovE eVeRy 30 mInuTeS. 😂
He's totally the "Then vs Now Dog" meme.
Impressive. But what kind of BTU's / heat are you getting out of them?
I can’t really answer that since I just use them for ambiance.
Fair enough.
But that would be something to know. I'm going off grid; by my definition, and am thinking about going this route for heat.
You gotta have access to alot of paper!....and alot of time. I have to designate about a full day to punch out about 60 bricks with the small set up I have, if i were going off grid I’d weld up my own set up so i could punch out 10-15 bricks at a time as well as make them slightly larger. I took about a dozen of em camping last yr and was very impressed with how long they burned.
You can heat a house and cook only with those.
BUT need to have some decent gear and a lot of paper. Also you can mix it with sawdust, dry grass, shreded leaves, coffe...whatever it burns . 1 paper : 2 sawdust + enough pressure will do the job. Once is dry you can add waste oil to them. That will give a nice power boost.
@@babypower9582 I’m thinking about playing around with this, I’m planning on using my 27 ton log splitter to do the compacting. With a couple modifications of course.
Thank you
that's what she said
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seaveiw just some tune off of the free ones offered on youtube.
Habi8805 I thought it fit the video pretty good, i liked it too!
That's what she said...
Cool!
its not that bigger is better, its the more compressed the better
Yes,...I'd agree with that!
for heat yes them a good idea, make a wood shed for the winter lol
way better music!!
To much pissing about to make these, in less time you could cut up a dead tree and have much better burning times, most of that office paper has chemicals in it so it's not good to burn it, that's my feeling anyway. Cheers
No. Just no. Cutting down a tree is quite a chore. I don't expect you to know that because you've likely never done it. Also, wood needs to be split and seasoned. That takes a lot of effort and time. This is way better as a supplementary heat source. If you're using these to heat your home, then you shouldn't worry about the hot air since that's either sealed or being vented off.
varun009 I live off grid and I know the process for wood prep and seasoning. I use a saw bench and log splitter for prepping my wood, it also helps to have a wood heater that has a high efficiency so that the wood burns cleaner and hotter, I only burn wood under 16% moisture content.
Get a paper shredder and make your own "shreds". Hmmmm Does Kinkos sell or give away their 'scrap'? DONT USE COLORED PAPER OR MAGAZINES!!!!!!!! THE COLORED INKS GIVE OFF POISONOUS FUMES!!!!!! THE SMALL AMOUNT OF BLACK PRINT IS ENUF OF A HAZARD. LOL
My husqvarna is more efficient. Y go through all that bs to make wood that can be cut in a half hour with a chain saw!
Your assuming everyone has access to wood...you know what happens when you assume.
@@Bucket247 we have 10 acres so ya we have trees down all the time
LaRaine Barton but thats you... the world doesn’t revolve around La Raine. What about the guy that lives in India and doesn’t have trees but lots of paper filled trash cans? Maybe we could just send him over to your place where he can cut down a tree 🌲? Or.... maybe you could open your eyes to the rest of the world not living on LaRaines property.
@@Bucket247 listen i don't give a shit about someone in India
Or you for that matter!
Nice ,Not worth my time . Maybe when I am 90 yrs old
....neither me nor you will ever make 90 my friend...