THE REAL PROBLEM WITH E-BIKES...
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- čas přidán 17. 12. 2023
- I was out riding over my local woods when I discovered the PROBLEM with E-BIKES....
Since EMTB become a thing it has been super controversial which often happens when a new thing comes along but slowly over time the "E BIKE HATERS" have disappeared as these incredible bikes have been accepted.
As the title suggests I have cracked the code and found the real issue with electric mountain bikes.
I hope that you enjoy the video! :)
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The REAL problem is the bloody price....Simple...!
Even regular bikes are exspensive! So there goes that argument
@@worldstallestmidget E-bikes are more expensive for the same/similar componentry. Also you can't fly with them (or more accurately, with their batteries) so unless you plan to drive they're no good if you want to take one on holiday..
@@sandy_knight well I bought a second battery. Send a battery to your location yiu will be and problem solved. And as far as pricing right now you can get killer deals! I bought a kenevo expert regularly 9 grand for out the door at 6 grand. Yes their a tad more then regular bikes but I have seen road bikes more then e bikes! Could I afford 9g’s no but 6g’s is manageable. Look at prices of top spec regular bikes and they’re the same as e bikes. Just my opinion
Nduro 8 with ohlins 180 front and rear. Bought it 3 weeks ago for 4300 0% finance. Top spec bike for nothing, killer deals atm dude.
I put together my 1500w 52v set-up for like £1200 total cost. It's cheap and it's bloody quick plus I reckon I've saved £1200 just from not buying petrol in the past 2 years since I built the bike
You nailed it. Many people (mostly those that haven't tried an emtb) still scoff at emtb but it simply allows me to ride further for longer = more fun crammed into the limited time I have. For me, it also means I don't have to mess about putting the bike rack on my car, driving to the forest and paying £6 a day to park - I just ride from home now instead :) But yes, as someone else mentioned, it's a pricy entrance fee for emtb and for most (including me) it's very hard to justify. But I cut out and sold off a couple of my 'sitting down at home hobbies', saved like hell, got a deal on a Cycle to Work scheme and decided to go for it, primarily because I'm not getting any younger at 52 y/o and wanted something to get me back out riding. It was worth it, and I love it, even though it's no high end bike (Haibike AllMtn 3.0). Love watching your channel mate!
Keep shredding dude! 🤟
Yep do I buy a new gaming pc that might work for years or an e bike that might keep me working for years longer👍
the even bigger problem is if you live in a city, they get nicked if you try to even go anywhere. another cracking vid Tom
Need a hefty lock! Thanks dude!🤟
@@TomCardy true but adding another 250quid for a hiplock (angle grinder proof) to an already expensive bike is a bit harsh, especially as you'd probably need two of them 🤣🤣
Locks are an investment not an expense enjoy@thedan00
0:45 that was me sliding out on the road 😂😂 didn’t know u were filming my friend missed it on his GoPro as well
Awesome shredding as always dude and dudess 👍✨
Another great video Tom thanks ✌️❤️
absolutely! i am on an e-bike for about 6 weeks now. havent rode that much for ages. its sooo much fun! glad i got one!
I hated E-bikes…… then I rode one…… now I’ve got a Giant E+0 and I absolutely love it.
E bikes are so good!
What did you "hate" about them if you hadn't ridden one ???
Specifically Mid Drive Ebikes!! They are really the way to go.
Pure dreams?
Depends on your use case and preference. I just cruse, I prefer hub drives it's far less maintenance far less ware n tear on drive train and no constant reliance on gears.
As much as I love ebikes, the majority of mere mortals cannot afford them, or justify spending the same amount of money for a decent second hand vehicle. Great video as always Tom and nice to see the crashes in the final cut too 😜
Thinking of going back to a “normal” hardtail. What’s your take on a Reynolds steel framed HT? Like a ribble or cotic.. any suggestions welcome 🙏 cheers
Tom great attitude and effort!
Compliments... Riding hard, taking chances, going for moves, staying positive, maintaining composure, never quitting,
Nice spot:)
Biggest Happy Happy Christmas, bigger than the rest
From Craig. UK.
Got a YT Decoy in June. Put 600 miles on it so far. I love that thing. I feel guilty for not riding my other bikes as much. It gives you confidence to take on trails that otherwise might seem like too much effort.
to get the bike flatter in a naknak or a tabletop release your fingers on the grip on your extended arm, for you your left hand, just holding on with your thumb and index finger.
What is that stand you used to clean your bike and is it good from cleaning you bike
Great fun at an old spot don’t think I’ve seen you fall off so many times 😂👍👍👍
is this with a gopro recorded ?? What are youre settings ?
Congratulations on your new home.
Thank you!
I like them, there is no doubt they are fun (just like a conventional bike), but after owning mine for about 6 years I still find there is still that stigma attached to them. There is a bigger sense of achievement riding a "bike" without a motor as it is all down to you. You do what you enjoy at the end of the day, as long as it aint hurting anyone else I am all for it.
Agreed! Whatever works for each person is what they should do!
I'm very blessed, I've got a few bikes & one is an ebb, I always say to my riding buddies, different bikes different rides 💪🏾
My Giant Trance E pro 2 has been superb . At 52 years old, i still ride like a younger and fitter myself. So , Ebikes for MTB are just awesome. I changed of home and now live right close to the trails. Up early, ride, Charge the battery and ride again late afternoon.
I wanted a turbo levo, could not found a frame size and color , but the Giant Etrance is an incredible bike, perfect for my adventures and fast paces. Reliable too.
ive got a 2023 giant trance x e+ 2 a couple weeks ago and have been kinda struggling with the weight, slowly trying to get the know this beast.
Couldn't agree more!!! Coming from a cross=country Hardtail background. Love the Video !!
Ton is ur at bike park wales next month 13th see you there
Tom the all mtn10 is mega I am gunna get one this year 😊
Hating Ebikes is so yesterday
E bikes are too expensive for most people. Especially people with other hobbies
No more than reg bikes!
Agreed! All bikes are worth a lot! 🤟
@@worldstallestmidget lol. Fair play
@@worldstallestmidget I've got a focus jam 8.8 if I wanted the equivlant spec e-bike version I'd be looking at paying an extra $3000 so I have no idea what you're on about
Feels like an advert for e-bikes, local woods like that you’d be fine with a trail bike.
So many intermediate riders have them as their go to bike but I can't see that they can learn to move their bikes around in the air like on a normal lighter bike ?
You have to just make the movement more but they help build confidence which I guess will lead to throwing shapes in the air whatever bike you have!
I've been riding 'normal' bikes for 20+ years and still can't move the bike around in the air that much, dairylea knees don't help like
Which bike is that you are riding?
It’s a Haibike ALLMTN 10 🤟
If I had knee problems or any health issues I’d buy one definitely but as I’m fit and injury free (thank god🙏🏼) I’ll stick to my normal bike 🚲 for now
0:38 Looks like had black ice. You have no chance on it without studded tyres. When you have to ride on roads and there's risk of black ice. you need studded tyres. i live in Norway so there's a lot of ice and snow now.
Decent studded tyres:
Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro, has many knobs with studs, all of them have studs, stiff enough knobs for the studs to not fall out, robust bead.
45Nrth Wrathchild, it has knobs with and without studs on both side and mid knobs, so it grips well on both ice and bare surface. Easy to install, east easily. They too have stiff enough knobs for the studs to not fall out, robust bead.
E-bikes are insane, so much fun and pleasure to be had, yet to find a negative with mine.
Why don’t you ever go warley bike park as it is quite local to you
I need to go back and check it out!
@@TomCardy it’s got some massive jumps even a 40 footer
What a lot of people who hate them don't realize, (especially those who refer to them as electric motorcycles or mopeds) is that they are in fact still very much bicycles. eMTBs are Class 1 in the States, meaning no throttle and assist only up to 20mph. In Europe the assist is only 25kph (15ish mph) and still no throttle. Plus in Europe there's much more restrictions on when an e-bike can be considered an e-bike before it crosses over into something else. That's probably why there's so much less controversy than in the States.
Hope you get same opinion when electronic parts start giving problems
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Luv me sum eBikes!!!
That being said, I do have some issues with ebike industry…we need standards for ebikes. The ability to update with newer batteries and even a newer motor. Pay 7k plus and your ebike will be outdated in a couple of years?! No, that’s not planet friendly or user friendly for that matter.
All batteries should use same chargers and all motors should use same mounting points…at least same manufacturer should stick to one mounting solution so in a couple of years you can buy a new motor and mount up to your frame if you chose to.
Yup, eels are too much fun
E-bikes are great Il getting one soon I’ve had a go on 3 and there is 2 brands what work for me Toms bike. Brand a n specialised they are to 2 what I would buy personally
Just had to pay £500 for a new battery for my YT Decoy, just out of the two year manufacturer's warranty... now that is the real problem with E bikes, no battery = no bike, so they have you by the short and curliest!
Don't charge it to 100% only 85% and don't go down to more than 20% and your battery will last much longer
couldn't have said it better.
Ebikes are the best, Tom is right they are just too much fun 😁
Yes they are!
Fettes Video bro
🤟🤟
The real problem is the price of a real e mountain bike that’s the Real problem 🤨 And as a mountain biker that climbs to descent very technical loose trails you would really have to sync the amount of torque & your own to keep a steady rhythm & grip on the loose shale type rocks body movement & balance is key to cleaning some of tech areas I just don’t see a ebike doing well. Going down is one thing but going up mountains in real time is brutal. But times change & people now take the easy way if at all possible & one day maybe it’s already here people say remember when people had to ride regular bikes up this. 😂
I took my eeb up Torridon which is loose, climbed stuff that only trails riders could climb, no world cup xc lad on an xc bike could climb. Then climbed the Achnashellach climb in both tour and EMTB, wow, I can clean all but the 2 stream crossings on my Amish averaging 3mph, this climb is brutal and for the very fit and technically gifted riders. 11mph on the eeb, my HR was near red zone 5 for the whole climb, the eeb was incredible. Very tech, use tour, normal Amish limits, use EMTB and hammer the climb. Once you learn to embrace the power and learn how to climb differently the eeb flies up the most technical and loose Amish climbs. Wouldn't get ride of my Amish, trail, enduro or DH ones, all different tools for the same job, the eeb just allows for more descending and more challenging climbing for folk like me that love a technical climb.
So the problem is that they’re to much fun?!?!?!! Is that a real problem? 😅😅😅😅😅
Yea… I mean naaa! 😂🤟
If you have to crash the slippy ones are the best. E-MTB all the way
Get Maxxis won’t be on the floor 🫣🤭
The real problem is use an
analog bike again...........
I think that's the most time I have seen Tom hitting the ground with a smile on his dial. It was just slippery sliding fun.
Click bait title for “they are too much fun”
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the real problem is they destroy tracks, make holes in the berm areas...ruin it for others....
😂😂😂
Absolutely not true….
Maybe put emtb’s on their own channel, before tricking your mtb subscribers into watching emtb?
Personally, I don’t hate them, but I am definitely not interested at all.
Don't watch the video then
@@MyBetsie I turned it off pretty quick when I realized it was a torment to mtb riders. Thanks for the tip! Point is I’m here for mtb, and Tom is transitioning the channel into an emtb dominant channel. I’d rather not unsubscribe and stop supporting the channel, but I’m not forcing myself to like handicapped motor bike riding from able individuals either.
Toms channel, he’s going to do Toms way. I get that. Chalk it up as feed back from a dirt merchant.
@@BikesHikesLikesit's up to you what you watch. Reece Wilson has a few posts on his eeb recently, Jackson Goldstone too, the Irish duo... How about Danny Mac.
All us folk on mobility bikes are having a blast.
Enjoy your riding and your laps.
Everyone can ride whatever they want. Gonna keep loving my eeb for most riding in the off season, we don't have uplift like folk down south do, so many trails here and EEBs are a dream for maximum laps in the least time allowing for time with the wife rather than riding all day.
You go so fast
Writing before watching. The real problem with ebikes ---> price, weight, range.
/E-mtb enjoyer