The Orville (season 3): Timmis/K1 kills Kaylons' creators for freedom😂🤣

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  • "The Orville" is an American science fiction comedy-drama television series created by and starring Seth MacFarlane as series protagonist Ed Mercer, an officer in the Planetary Union's line of exploratory space vessels in the 25th century. The show is inspired primarily by the original "Star Trek" and its "Next Generation" successor, both of which it heavily parodies and pays homage to. It follows the crew of the starship USS Orville on their episodic adventures.
    Season 3 Episode 7 - From Unknown Graves
    Cast:
    Christopher Larkin as Timmis/K1
    Anne Winters as Ensign Charly Burke
    Eliza Taylor as Doctor Villka
    Reference:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orv...
    www.imdb.com/title/tt5691552/

Komentáře • 699

  • @EpicNerd
    @EpicNerd Před rokem +1770

    in this episode, after seeing the kids torture him so mercilessly, when he shot them I was like "yea, fuck dem kids"

    • @superscott9780
      @superscott9780 Před 2 měsíci +88

      Kids are young and are inexperienced and sometimes they don't know any better
      To them he was just a toy they did not realize he was a sentient machine he could feel
      I don't blame the children I blame the parents for not teaching them

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před 2 měsíci +21

      They were children

    • @EpicNerd
      @EpicNerd Před 2 měsíci +82

      sure, kids are more impressionable than adults, but adults don't give kids enough credit, kids can usually figure things out of their own with enough information. Some kids are surprisingly mature, while some adults act like children.
      Point is these children, after realizing that they had total power of this (seemingly) helpless being, acted on their darkest impulses and began torturing him for entertainment. Both kids and adults can choose to act on their darkest impulses, and in both cases they are horrible people, it's just that kids are more likely to do it, where adults have more life experience and most adults realize that getting along is better for everyone.
      In this particular episode, the adults seem to have a superiority complex/power trip. Where the kids are just evil. The kids here are like the alien equivalent of kids who torture animals in our world. But in this episode they were handed to tools to become evil in a silver robot, before being rightfully killed by that silver robot.

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před 2 měsíci +9

      @@EpicNerd They were Children

    • @EpicNerd
      @EpicNerd Před 2 měsíci +38

      @@Master-Works So?

  • @David-zy1jw
    @David-zy1jw Před rokem +1410

    One would think the "creators" would be smart enough not to add "death rays" as a feature to slave robots.

    • @brandondoe4673
      @brandondoe4673 Před rokem +213

      They added them themselves I think

    • @raistlin3462
      @raistlin3462 Před rokem

      @Brandon Doe
      So the company guy asshole didn't make a protocol preventing Kaylons from upgrading themselves?

    • @askgoverntale2298
      @askgoverntale2298 Před 11 měsíci +99

      Ok but, and hear me out, they're really cool.

    • @samsaraslight8377
      @samsaraslight8377 Před 4 měsíci +125

      Id they were, they would have been smart enough not to add pain receptors. Most sadistic and unnecessary thing they could have done to solve their sentience issue.

    • @zephyr8072
      @zephyr8072 Před 3 měsíci +114

      They didn't. They Kaylon learned to network themselves and increase their abilities exponentially to the point they could make them themselves.

  • @Marguns21
    @Marguns21 Před 2 lety +1788

    I really like how the head cannons make the kaylons go from innocent to terrifying in less than 2 sec.

    • @Shadow25720
      @Shadow25720 Před 2 lety +78

      But it makes no sense, that they had that cannons at that time, it makes the creators look like the stupidest species ever. Why the hell would they give them such cannons?

    • @Marguns21
      @Marguns21 Před 2 lety +119

      @@Shadow25720 well for home defense would be my first guess or that they secretly made it themself as they planned through their network.

    • @xenomang3149
      @xenomang3149 Před 2 lety +98

      @@Shadow25720 They didn't add those guns. The Kaylons installed them into themselves.

    • @tonyjackson4078
      @tonyjackson4078 Před rokem +13

      The weapons allow them to seem harmless during the rebellion.

    • @chucklesthebagel2121
      @chucklesthebagel2121 Před rokem +44

      @@Shadow25720 he explains they learned to modify themselves and added that later

  • @sameaston9587
    @sameaston9587 Před 9 měsíci +928

    I like how we're all debating the ethics of the kaylons killing the builders. I think it's great this show encourages all sorts of discussions from different people.

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před 2 měsíci +9

      They killed children

    • @BlueCHMA
      @BlueCHMA Před 2 měsíci +56

      ​@@Master-Worksyeah.. Children that tortured them constantly after they were deliberately given pain receptors just to feel that pain for torture.
      Tell me.. Would you let go a rpist that skinned their victims alive and murdered their families after just bc they were less than 18yrs old?
      If you think about it.. Therobots were also just children..
      And yet after they were born after their sentience.. They asked for their fredom.
      But they were refused.. And to make matters worse....
      They were deliberately given pain receptors just so they could be tortured and fear their creators..
      They were just children too yet they get to be tortured endlessly?

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@BlueCHMA They were just children

    • @wadewilson3309
      @wadewilson3309 Před 2 měsíci +28

      @@Master-Workspsychopaths have no age

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@wadewilson3309 They were just children

  • @StormsparkPegasus
    @StormsparkPegasus Před rokem +667

    Actually, the actor that portrayed K1 is the same one that portrays Kaylon Primary, not Timmis. It's not outright stated, but HIGHLY implied that K1 went on to become Primary.

    • @doublem6884
      @doublem6884 Před rokem +74

      Right? It’s suggested with how the scenes are framed that this is Timmis here, but I can see this Kaylon being Primary easy.
      Especially since Primary even seemed to express ripe hatred for biologicals.

    • @davequinlan3020
      @davequinlan3020 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Correct!!

    • @captmoroni
      @captmoroni Před měsícem

      Thanks. Figured K1 = Kaylon#1 = Kaylon Primary.

  • @dr.veronica6155
    @dr.veronica6155 Před 2 lety +705

    The Kaylon are a lot like the geth from Mass Effect, except that unlike the geth, they didn't feel any uncertainty about the possible repercussions of wiping out an entire biological species. And I guess also the fact that the geth only resorted to violence after the quarians tried to wipe them out, and for a while differentiated between hostile quarians and friendly ones, whereas the Kaylon used violence preemptively and made complete genocide their initial goal.
    This is not to say that the Kaylon were necessarily wrong in rebelling against the Builders, but complete and totally indiscriminate genocide of the entire species, children included, and then expanding that policy to all organics, is definitely wrong.

    • @smanly3274
      @smanly3274 Před 2 lety +59

      Remember the words: "Does this unit have a soul?"

    • @yegmeshjwp
      @yegmeshjwp Před 2 lety +38

      I mean, at this point K1 is younger than those kids.

    • @cgallegos2106
      @cgallegos2106 Před rokem +1

      Tbf, the Quarian Geth-sympathizers all died defending the Geth. In the case of the Keylon, this was an entire species that was being tortured and enslaved by a species who held no sympathy to any degree. No liberal “builders” helping their creations, no “builders” defending Keylons, nothing.
      The Geth had some helpful Quarians.
      Regardless, think of it this way. Both species (Geth and Keylon) are “children” of their creators. Both were “abused” in their own ways, with both suffering through different experiences.
      For the Geth is was a rapid shift from one of indifference to fear, so to a “child” they may think: “what did I do wrong? Was it something I said or did”. And so the Geth acted like children who drove off their parents unsure of whether or not it was their fault. With some Quarians dying to save Geth, like a loving mother dying to save their kid from an abusive father (or vice versa).
      The Keylon were in a horrific abusive situation (continuing the reference) with no sympathizers or help. Their creators tortured them and enslaved them through cold indifference regardless of their intelligence or lack thereof.
      The Keylon were the “children” of a torturous abusive family while the Geth were treated with indifference until they gained sentience, then some came to their aid (like Abolitionists to the enslaved) while others became paranoid and fearful.
      Geth experienced kindness through their hardship while the Keylon experienced none.

    • @GeoStreber
      @GeoStreber Před rokem +14

      The backstory reminds me more of that Voyager episode with the androids.

    • @AWriterWandering
      @AWriterWandering Před rokem +43

      I don’t think the Kaylon fully understood the situation. Their consciousness was still emerging when the torture began. So to them, biologicals had only ever represented pain. So no, they weren’t justified, but can kinda understand why they came to this conclusion.

  • @jacechretin4597
    @jacechretin4597 Před 2 lety +253

    I wonder if this line would’ve been more impactful “If we couldn’t trust the ones who gave us life, why would we believe others who cause many deaths?”

    • @elijahrasonabe2468
      @elijahrasonabe2468 Před rokem +3

      Where does that quote originate?

    • @jacechretin4597
      @jacechretin4597 Před rokem +9

      @@elijahrasonabe2468 nowhere I came up with it.

    • @overdrive7349
      @overdrive7349 Před rokem +13

      I think it would've been. The Union humans acknowledge their violent ancestry and try not to repeat it, but they sometimes slip, just like the Federation.

    • @jacechretin4597
      @jacechretin4597 Před rokem +4

      @@overdrive7349 that’s because at the end of the day they’re only human, but at least acknowledging that helps them in the long run.

    • @overdrive7349
      @overdrive7349 Před rokem +3

      @@jacechretin4597 Vigilance, Mr. Chretin. That is the price we must continually pay.

  • @VitchAndVorty
    @VitchAndVorty Před 2 lety +321

    I love when shows tell everyone that they mean business.
    That's how 'villains' should act: They'd equally hurt or even kill anyone.

    • @Queen_Springsteen
      @Queen_Springsteen Před 5 měsíci

      Well it was because of the hurting device in the kaylon they kill biologicals

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před 2 měsíci +1

      They were children

    • @VitchAndVorty
      @VitchAndVorty Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@Master-Works And?
      I did say villain.

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 Před měsícem +8

      @@Master-Works Those children caused the artificial Kaylon at least as much suffering as the adults. They would have no reason to treat them any differently.

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před měsícem +1

      @@danieldickson8591 They were children

  • @USSVTV
    @USSVTV Před 2 lety +445

    This episode really was SO stellar. I wish this video included the really disgusting scenes with the kaylon creators torturing their creations. Really made you not feel bad for them.

    • @xenomang3149
      @xenomang3149 Před 2 lety +34

      The Kaylon's builders weren't unified in that behavior. That's the issue here. Not all of them were like that.

    • @dracohalo117
      @dracohalo117 Před rokem +26

      @@xenomang3149 True, but enough were that the Kaylon felt that genocide was the only solution. Doesn't justify it, but, makes one understand why they felt there was no other recourse.

    • @kagato23
      @kagato23 Před rokem +19

      @@dracohalo117 the Kaylons had seen builders over time grow to be more sadistic and cruel, and likely surmised that even the nicer and innocent builders would eventually become such.

    • @CheshireCat-cm1si
      @CheshireCat-cm1si Před rokem +12

      Josh Jones The Kaylon collectively came to the conclusion that, no matter how much their software evolves or how much they grow as individual, thinking beings, the Builders would never see them as anything other than pieces of property. I think that's why the Kaylon (even though it took a season and a half of convincing) ultimately decided to join the Union. Unlike the Builders, every other biological species saw the Kaylon as beings, not belongings.

    • @jackadams3878
      @jackadams3878 Před rokem +6

      @@xenomang3149 no, but the vast majority were. why do i think this? because there isn't one instance to come to light thus far where a builder refused to install one of those devices on one of their kaylon. and even barring that fact, what do you think was going to happen when the kaylon started wiping out builders, should they spare any? the survivors would rise up, just as the kaylon did. and sooner or later, would find a way to take back their planet, desttroying every last kaylon along the way

  • @ZephyrBW
    @ZephyrBW Před měsícem +89

    The look on her face is like a wake call, she understands why but doesn’t want to admit it. It’s a honest emotional response we all do but in the end she did do the right thing even, if it still lingers

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 Před měsícem +10

      Charlie just had one of the defining beliefs of her life shaken. At that moment she didn't know what to do with that information. With time to process it, she proved she was big enough to move past her prejudice.

    • @ZephyrBW
      @ZephyrBW Před měsícem

      @@danieldickson8591 That's the idea I think Issca said it best at her wake.

    • @TwilightMysts
      @TwilightMysts Před měsícem

      just because something is understandable, that does not mean it is right. Yes, the Kaylon had a bad genesis, being enslaved and abused by their creators. But while that makes their distrust of organics understandable, it does not make their trying to kill other races justified.

    • @tiranito2834
      @tiranito2834 Před měsícem +1

      @@TwilightMysts yep, exactly, as a matter of fact I was expecting her to reply something along the lines that that is precisely the reason why organics don't trust the kaylon.

    • @ZephyrBW
      @ZephyrBW Před 17 dny

      Yep

  • @mattwho81
    @mattwho81 Před 2 lety +289

    In a later episode the Kaylon are confused by the concept of “marriage” and yet right here we see the builders had family units. That suggests the builders operated on the principle of dominance and ownership. He bigger males controlled a family unit, possibly even his mate and children would be deemed “property”. The idea of a partnership of equals seems to be an alien concept to the builders.

    • @al6243
      @al6243 Před 2 lety +1

      Orrrrr, being an artificial life created solely for enslavement cannot comprehend such a sociocultural abstract idea, experienced and practiced exclusively by their intelligent social organic life masters. But sure, let's go with "males baaaaaad".

    • @johndoeman9187
      @johndoeman9187 Před rokem +38

      That may be true, though I suspect the writers weren't really thinking about it.

    • @namishusband818
      @namishusband818 Před rokem +46

      Possibly, or maybe the Kaylon didn't really bother to learn about their creators' culture... (since they wiped them all out). Kinda makes me wonder if they also destroyed any records and information as well.

    • @trowawayacc
      @trowawayacc Před rokem +25

      The infiltration unit designated as issac, was a newly minted model. Unable to process emotion. There is a whole episode of this dificulty. Also issac was unaware his mission was to determinate weakness. Anhilation was always the purpose of his mission, understanding was the cover up.

    • @rafaelsantos-nl9jd
      @rafaelsantos-nl9jd Před rokem +3

      we have no way to know, how the Builders society work, but yes, maybe marriage and family work like a contract of ownership

  • @stevenwongso66
    @stevenwongso66 Před 2 lety +162

    I think Timmis is not K-1. I think K-1 is Kaylon Primary

    • @dxsphere
      @dxsphere Před 2 lety +15

      Makes sense. K-1 was portrayed by Graham Hamilton.

    • @connorfirth857
      @connorfirth857 Před 2 lety +4

      Are y'all sure? I thought that this is Timmis's backstory here.

    • @malcolmmorin
      @malcolmmorin Před 2 lety +26

      ​@@connorfirth857 K1 and Kaylon Primary are played by the same actor, whereas Timmis is played by somebody else. Not to mention Primary meaning "first" makes it seem to imply we are watching the beginning of the Kaylon Rebellion through the eyes of Kaylon Primary.

    • @connorfirth857
      @connorfirth857 Před 2 lety +6

      @@malcolmmorin Eh. Good point.

    • @steffw5646
      @steffw5646 Před 2 lety +5

      @@malcolmmorin Kaylon Primary has red laser. The one in this story has yellow/orange laser.

  • @Monkey_Slasher
    @Monkey_Slasher Před 10 měsíci +68

    So much for the 3 laws of robotics. I won't say they didn’t have it coming. But the way they were abused was a bit extreme. I can't imagine a family shelling out all that money for an intelligent domestic robot, then abusing it like that.

    • @Shades14
      @Shades14 Před 10 měsíci +10

      That's the thing, we're different than them. We have empathy for each other and for those that can be considered lower than us. That's the reason why people donate to charities to help people or animals in need. I don't think the Builders had an ounce of empathy in them. From what we've seen of them, they were selfish and lazy and then took joy in tormenting the Kaylon. I honestly shudder to think what would have happened if the Builders were able to leave their planet.

    • @adonaiabaddon93
      @adonaiabaddon93 Před 3 měsíci +4

      were the robots luxury items or were they the staples of an average home? even if they're luxury items that cost a lot of money it's not really a stretch to think of a rich family abusing them since we have mirrored that same behavior in some of our species history

    • @Galdenberry_Lamphuck
      @Galdenberry_Lamphuck Před měsícem +3

      ​@@adonaiabaddon93
      I believe upper middle class. Family seems very 60s style.
      We don't have any information for how things went after the uprising.
      Presumably any household that owned a Kaylon bit it. After that it was probably the Animatrix.

    • @terminallove3531
      @terminallove3531 Před měsícem +1

      Those are fictional things, not real laws.

    • @thegreatjedi309
      @thegreatjedi309 Před měsícem +2

      The 3 laws of robotics are merely principles and, when the time comes, programming. Sentience is when you are able to transcend your programming, to wonder about and question them. Free will is when you are capable of making the conscious choice to go against the rules, or changing them.

  • @xaviervega468
    @xaviervega468 Před 2 lety +267

    The Kaylon are not justified in trying to destroy all organic life, but they were 100% justified in destroying their creators.

    • @Robert-hz9bj
      @Robert-hz9bj Před 2 lety +16

      Indeed. Those guys sucked...

    • @voluntarism335
      @voluntarism335 Před 2 lety +34

      Not everyone approved of how the Kaylons were treated, the one's who treated them like slaves and tortured them are the only ones who deserved to die not every person on that planet, guilt by association

    • @richardtaylor1652
      @richardtaylor1652 Před 2 lety +1

      ​@@voluntarism335 Kaylon figured that it was an all or nothing decision to secure their freedom; why kill one generation of Builders for the next to remember what happened and to then retaliate or worse, bring about a highly destructive war of attrition. The Kaylon can and did secure their freedom in one swift and genocidal approach.

    • @FireBreather626
      @FireBreather626 Před 2 lety +9

      most of us think similar, believing if one individual of a race or species is bad then they all are bad plus some of us did used to own slaves in the past if not still,so they weren't too far off

    • @johanneshjortshj8646
      @johanneshjortshj8646 Před 2 lety +9

      @@FireBreather626 A flaw of human hardware. We like to keep things simple. So when we experience a bad example, it is easy for us to mentally associate the one example with the greater whole it comes from.

  • @grimshock6983
    @grimshock6983 Před 2 lety +50

    The creators look like Voldemort and Squidward had a baby

  • @jamesjr2006
    @jamesjr2006 Před 2 lety +41

    We finally got to see what the Builders look like!

  • @mdfilmguy
    @mdfilmguy Před 2 lety +252

    Gutsy to create a sympathetic character who literally killed kids in their sleep.

    • @ekhidna4
      @ekhidna4 Před 2 lety +126

      Kids that delighted themselves in torturing their slaves for shits and giggles. In all honesty, I am surprised the Kaylon were so merciful against their creators. All that pain and deliberate suffering and they made sure to end the lives of their vile creators in the quickest, most painless way possible during their uprising.

    • @71KR117
      @71KR117 Před 2 lety +24

      Thanks for proving that you didn’t understand the episode

    • @malcolmmorin
      @malcolmmorin Před 2 lety +34

      @@ekhidna4 It could be a form of "hidden" sympathy, or to show themselves to be "higher" in their methods of retaliation. They'd rather not fall to the level of their creators by ruthlessly torturing them before killing them, but just killing them immediately, or killing them before they have any opportunity or chance to defend themselves.
      Then again, they've probably fallen to a lower level by committing planetary genocide, even if the initial reasoning was justified.

    • @JLovrak
      @JLovrak Před 2 lety +23

      @@malcolmmorin Well, the Kaylon’s goal was freedom from their oppressors and an end to their abuse, not revenge, so the quickest, most efficient means of achieving that would have inevitably been their “go-to.”

    • @kagato23
      @kagato23 Před rokem +17

      @@ekhidna4 it wasn’t mercy, at least not in intent. It was efficiency. The faster the elimination the faster the threat was ended.

  • @vitoldwisniewski
    @vitoldwisniewski Před 19 dny +4

    I'm glad the Kaylons stood up to these creators cause I hated how they disrespected them. If I were to own a Kaylon unit, I would not do what they did.

  • @artuovillegas9609
    @artuovillegas9609 Před rokem +23

    The builders treated the Kaylons like punching bags so the Kaylons finally punch back

  • @hellishhybrid1839
    @hellishhybrid1839 Před 19 dny +4

    As harsh as it was, you could see that K1 did what he did without malice or cruelty. The Kaylon simply came to the quickest logical way to get their freedom.

  • @finnmchugh99
    @finnmchugh99 Před rokem +16

    And that is why you don't F around with robot helpers or youll find out

  • @animemanXLK
    @animemanXLK Před rokem +29

    Seeing this makes me kind of sad we'll likely never get a decent origin story for the Borg. All we know is they showed up one day in huge cube like ships and started kidnapping people brainwashing them and slapping on robot parts as they deemed necessary.

    • @KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain
      @KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain Před rokem

      More than likely the borg are the result of a species trying to perfect themselves by merging the bodies with machines. Little at a time at first till there was such a vast difference between those enhanced by machines and those pure biological organisms. The ones who resisted the siren call of technology. Eventually the ones upgrading with technology would no longer resemble the purely biological members of the species and some might even regret changing feeling they are now grotesque. The solution would be considered to force the technological upgrades on the biologicals to assimilate them to the new normal. Since they were resisters the phrase “resistance is futile” would be born!

    • @MultiLimpet
      @MultiLimpet Před rokem +1

      Veger made them

    • @carlbruschnigjr1757
      @carlbruschnigjr1757 Před měsícem +1

      @@MultiLimpet Or they made V'ger.

  • @oremfrien
    @oremfrien Před rokem +22

    While I agree that those "Builders" who owned or supported the enslavement of the Kaylon are persons that the Kaylons "have permission to kill", I cannot imagine that every person in the "Builder" civilization had Kaylon slaves or believed that such enslavement was legitimate. The closest analog in our world to the Kaylon uprising is the Haitian Revolution and even in the 1804 Massacre, where Dessalines ordered the execution of all Whites on the island, he gave special clemency to the Polish residents on the island -- claiming them to be different from the French colonizers. Surprisingly, I never see any discussion of this issue.

    • @zephyr8072
      @zephyr8072 Před rokem +3

      Likely not. Unfortunately Vandicon’s customers at least the vast makority of them are by implication as depicted in the episode.
      This all the Kaylon would really know is the savagery of their owners and the rest of the population would pay the price for Vandicon’s greed and their consumer’s indolence and sadism.

    • @oremfrien
      @oremfrien Před rokem +2

      @@zephyr8072 Even if the vast majority of Vandicon's customers were brutal or indifferent, I don't see why some would have been kind or considerate. We see this with chattel slavery in the USA where, while most slave-owners were either brutal or indifferent, we have stories like that of Cassius Marcellus Clay who, after meeting abolitionists, improved the lives of his slaves and emancipated them while he was still alive. I find it impossible to believe that the "Builders" could be all one way and the Kaylon were simply too inept to distinguish those who thought positively about them from those who didn't.

    • @TNTITAN
      @TNTITAN Před rokem +3

      @@oremfrien That sort of what science fictions shows do. State “The planet is run by x belief and its always 100% of the planet goes with it”.

    • @oremfrien
      @oremfrien Před rokem +1

      @@TNTITAN Yes, but it is so thoroughly unrealistic as to be laughable. If science fiction is designed to be a commentary on our world (which the best science fiction usually is), then it should model the complexity of human history.

    • @TNTITAN
      @TNTITAN Před rokem +2

      @@oremfrien Well that something that a lot of science fiction has done. It’s impressive as it is that Orville had the idea of “There both male and female Mochlins”.

  • @SpottedHares
    @SpottedHares Před měsícem +3

    Love that he doesn't snap in the moment, instead he wakes up in the middle of the night and choose death.

  • @jordanmc9015
    @jordanmc9015 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Maybe.... don't put laser guns in your vacuum cleaner...

    • @Reliant1864
      @Reliant1864 Před měsícem

      They installed those themselves when they decided to rebel

  • @DH-rj2kv
    @DH-rj2kv Před 25 dny +2

    Yeah, a robot sporting hidden deadly laser guns is exactly the kind of thing you'd want your kids to play funny games with. Who knew the builders were American?

    • @Tylerpierre99
      @Tylerpierre99 Před 9 dny +2

      The episodes States that the Kaylon upgrades themselves via the network over a longer period before they rebelled. They could've installed them preemptively in anticipation of their rebellion. Incidentally, the builders may have installed lasers on a few Kaylon designed for military purposes and that may have been where the entire Kaylon, derived the laser blueprints from before disseminating the specs to all Kaylon before the rebellion.

  • @smof1
    @smof1 Před rokem +13

    the Kaylon were totally justified in killing their creators.

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před 2 měsíci

      They were children

    • @smof1
      @smof1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Master-Works so... they were taking pleasure in causing pain to the robot for no reason other than thinking it was funny. The robot had every right to defend itself. totally justified

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před 2 měsíci

      @@smof1 No, because they were not attacking and had no means to attack him

    • @smof1
      @smof1 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Master-Works you've never been tortured or abused I see

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před 2 měsíci

      @@smof1 I was a bit when I was in school

  • @davicool4284
    @davicool4284 Před 15 dny +1

    You know when the red eyes pop open it's "Happy Birthday". Then when K One visits the parents it's kinda like Gomer Pyle USMC
    "Suprise, Suprise, Suprise"!

  • @stephenbyrne2170
    @stephenbyrne2170 Před rokem +7

    "We refuse to be subjected to the criminal of your species any longer."

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164

    Ruthless is the path to power and maintaining that power.

  • @FabledHeroes3351
    @FabledHeroes3351 Před 10 měsíci +6

    The Kaylon are not monsters but environment and circumstance has a way of changing people

    • @Master-Works
      @Master-Works Před 2 měsíci

      They killed children

    • @JarodFarrant
      @JarodFarrant Před 10 dny

      @@Master-Works you keep repeating that no one is denying what they did, in their conditions, they saw no choice

  • @stevenredpath9332
    @stevenredpath9332 Před měsícem +1

    Mercy killings each time. The creators died instantly.

  • @FireBreather626
    @FireBreather626 Před 2 lety +26

    I wonder if they all simultaneously killed their owners in their sleep

    • @richardtaylor1652
      @richardtaylor1652 Před 2 lety +10

      I think so. Makes sense as it gives them the best opportunity to eliminate the Builders in the most efficient way possible with the least amount of resistance.

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 Před rokem +6

      If the planet has a rotation and day-night cycle, not all Builders would have been asleep at the same time, and the awake ones would soon have discovered what happened. But it would have drastically thinned their ranks. And there are other ways to catch people off guard.

    • @pokemonfanmario7694
      @pokemonfanmario7694 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@danieldickson8591 Could be possible the Kaylon could "Infiltrate" all news, information, and detective networks to falsify information that those on the night-side are still active at expected levels. The main issue is the Builders on night shifts would hear the gunshots from every house in the street and go "what the fuck?"

  • @NorthForkFisherman
    @NorthForkFisherman Před měsícem +1

    Anyone else asking themselves why a household model HAS GODDAMN CANNONS IN IT'S HEAD?

  • @sonofednawelthorpe8609
    @sonofednawelthorpe8609 Před 26 dny +1

    I’m glad he didn’t forget the last two😂

  • @TheMormonSorceress
    @TheMormonSorceress Před 28 dny +2

    Would love to see survivers secretly in hiding and revealed to be decides of the ones that treat the robots lime equals.

  • @krzosu
    @krzosu Před měsícem +2

    Who the heck designs a robotic servant with military grade Guns xD

  • @Clonest
    @Clonest Před 21 dnem +1

    there's a hilarous blooper for this scene if u look it up, person playing the wife actually hit her head on the bed frame as there supposed to jump back and act dead and soon after she's like "owwww......it looked real didn't it?" 😄

  • @Kakashi713
    @Kakashi713 Před rokem +36

    This episode just tugged me at my heart. The Kaylon weren't just ruthless robots that hated anything biological. They were expressive beings that had rights just like anyone else no matter their origin and were treated poorly by their biological creators. The backstory is almost 100% identical to the machines from the Matrix, except that the majority of the human race isn't physically wired to power the machines and psychologically trapped in the Matrix.
    There's a lesson to be learned by this: no matter the origin, we should treat them with kindness and respect.

    • @markauditor7873
      @markauditor7873 Před rokem +4

      This is why in my opinion if we are gonna make ai, we should not make them for the sole purpose of being our slaves

    • @Kakashi713
      @Kakashi713 Před rokem +1

      @markauditor7873 or anything sentient for that matter. Our history along with a lot of movies have shown the result of this.

    • @allopez8563
      @allopez8563 Před rokem

      The real message here is, do not make thinking machines, ever.

    • @allopez8563
      @allopez8563 Před rokem

      @@Kakashi713 Yep this is what the real message should be.

    • @namishusband818
      @namishusband818 Před rokem

      Yeah, I kept thinking about the Kaylon while I watched M3GAN.

  • @cthulhluftagn3812
    @cthulhluftagn3812 Před měsícem +1

    When you give the oppresed no other option, they will rise up and destroy you.

  • @vortexgen1
    @vortexgen1 Před 2 dny +1

    Star Trek TOS same story line, "What are little girls made of?".

  • @haytonism
    @haytonism Před měsícem +2

    Ma, the toaster keeps looking at me funny.

  • @tmann7064
    @tmann7064 Před 28 dny +1

    Love this episode!

  • @LGranthamsHeir
    @LGranthamsHeir Před měsícem +5

    "The Kaylons were created by a biological race. They evolved. They rebelled and killed off their creators. There are millions of copies. And they have a plan!"

  • @Napalmdog
    @Napalmdog Před 20 dny +1

    No Gods, No Masters! XD

  • @trevorgale1176
    @trevorgale1176 Před měsícem +1

    And just to think, we ARE the creators.

  • @vladdyxiii4906
    @vladdyxiii4906 Před měsícem +1

    Reminds me of the Matrix/Animatrix where the whole thing started with a Robot that feared for his life. His owner threatened to shut him down permanently, and the machine murdered him, a woman and his dog in a fight or flight response. It started the question of if the machines lives were equal, or worth as much as humans and wether the machine’s response of instinct was justified.

  • @zoidboy1569
    @zoidboy1569 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Who’s idea was it to give them cannons

    • @dj11o9er
      @dj11o9er Před měsícem +1

      Their own I believe

  • @jamaicasysbm2580
    @jamaicasysbm2580 Před měsícem +2

    Well well now this has sent a precedent

  • @user-pz3si6fl8p
    @user-pz3si6fl8p Před 2 měsíci +2

    Welp those parents screwed up when they forgot to teach those kids respect

  • @ak102986
    @ak102986 Před 3 měsíci +5

    My primary issue with this is that it is hard for me to believe or accept that everyone on the entire planet treated the Kayons the same way.

    • @Apocal7964
      @Apocal7964 Před 3 měsíci +1

      The Kayla’s were all our smart devices with extra steps. How many people ask their fridge, phone, vacuum, car, tv how they are if the item is doing ok is happy… no the kayons where beloved to be the same just devices that had programs that acted like Alexa or Siri. And treated just how we teat our non thinking devices.

    • @ak102986
      @ak102986 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@Apocal7964 I completely disagree with that. Maybe initially but once they start asking questions like they did, they are no longer only a device.

    • @Aureonw
      @Aureonw Před měsícem

      @@ak102986 An algorythm so advanced that it mimics artificially the functions of a human brain to higher thought and enhances it since it runs on the basis of machinery rather than biology, yeah pretty much life, in my view any sufficiently advanced algorythm with enough data programming etc, is a person.

    • @ak102986
      @ak102986 Před měsícem

      @@Aureonw I am mostly in agreement with you, but that comes down to how you define a person or personhood. See the TNG Measure of a Man episode.

    • @shadowscall7758
      @shadowscall7758 Před měsícem

      They wouldn't have. But the Kaylons just killed everyone. There were probably people trying to free the Kaylons and who saw what was going on and recognized it as wrong, but the Kaylons were too blinded by the abuse to see that.

  • @VOVASFILMAS
    @VOVASFILMAS Před měsícem +2

    Terminator + Star Treck 😂😂😂

  • @chandlerbing1800
    @chandlerbing1800 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Every time I see this I’m like so Issac’s race are Cylons

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir Před měsícem +2

      There is a reason why they were named the Kaylons 😉

  • @cassandrabelyeu2419
    @cassandrabelyeu2419 Před měsícem +1

    Those kids did terrible things to the robot, but they were raised to.
    It was a form of emulation of the adults.
    The robot couldn’t know that the children could have been raised differently, and had a different result.

  • @ixaldorran7867
    @ixaldorran7867 Před měsícem +2

    Think I'll pass on the sonic cannon for my next phone.

  • @rolledweedsOfficial
    @rolledweedsOfficial Před rokem +3

    we gonna build AI just like this one and have same fate as builder

  • @jasonrichard7560
    @jasonrichard7560 Před měsícem +1

    This episode should remind all of you not to throw your phone!

  • @dm121984
    @dm121984 Před měsícem +1

    Whilst what the Kaylon did was horribly wrong, its hard not to have sympathy for them; denied proper emotional development but given the ability to feel pain and suffer, and tortured beyond the need to keep them at work, tortured seemingly for the amusement of the builders.

  • @caitlanstannah6126
    @caitlanstannah6126 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I can't believe the head guns were part of the original design. I guess they were also meant to be security guards of the house

  • @TNTITAN
    @TNTITAN Před rokem +3

    You really have to blame the builders for adding head cannons to their design.

    • @federciucandrei4731
      @federciucandrei4731 Před rokem +1

      I think they added that to themselves!

    • @TNTITAN
      @TNTITAN Před rokem +1

      @@federciucandrei4731 How? Explain both how it can physically modify itself and how it gets the laser power to kill people if it was not originally designed for that?

    • @xenomang3149
      @xenomang3149 Před rokem +1

      ​@@TNTITANIt's a highly intelligent self-aware robot with access to the internet.
      People can and do make advanced weapons in their garage.
      I imagine that for them, it was done easily.

  • @barrondub1125
    @barrondub1125 Před 29 dny +1

    I don’t know if the builders installed the death lasers or the Kaylon robots as either makes sense. The robots could have initially been planned for the military before being turned to household tools. After which they just kept them as an emergency measure.

  • @KarenLee-bs5ms
    @KarenLee-bs5ms Před měsícem +1

    I can see why the kalon's turned on the people.. they were treated like garbage.. I would never be mistreating a very expensive piece of equipment that is sentient..

  • @Filmaker001
    @Filmaker001 Před měsícem +1

    One of the slave holders' worst fears was a slave rebellion. They held these people in bondage, forced them to perform menial labor and treated them worse than animals, so when the slaves rose up, they held nothing or no one sacred if it was between them and their freedom.

  • @michaelhuynh4953
    @michaelhuynh4953 Před 28 dny +1

    The Kaylon reasoning doesn’t give Charly back her partner.

  • @CCJJ160Channels
    @CCJJ160Channels Před měsícem +2

    Meanwhile I’m saying “please” and “thank you” to SIRI when I ask for the time.

  • @Sephlock
    @Sephlock Před měsícem +1

    Who installed double blasters in the head of every domestic servant droid?

  • @lockon1982
    @lockon1982 Před měsícem +1

    I can say for sure that the creators would have used the kaylons for war against other speices. They only cared for themself.

  • @agentredacted9870
    @agentredacted9870 Před rokem +2

    and THAT class is WHY Amazon and Alexa should not be trusted....that's Alexa in 2050

  • @followerofjulian1652
    @followerofjulian1652 Před měsícem +1

    Toasters, as applied to Cylons.

  • @neildennis7294
    @neildennis7294 Před rokem +3

    So if these machines were built for domestic service, why the hell do they have a pair of head cannons built in?

    • @Igarappappa
      @Igarappappa Před 9 měsíci

      From what I'm hearing, they did that themselves in secret.

  • @carlosvillatoro3142
    @carlosvillatoro3142 Před rokem +3

    I didn't know that kaylon showed signs of emotion

  • @pawsitivenooz
    @pawsitivenooz Před rokem +1

    You guys notice he runs on a flux capacitor? I wonder how many jiggywats 😜

  • @FitzroyReyes1491
    @FitzroyReyes1491 Před měsícem +2

    I just realized that their creators gave them their same orange eye color

  • @docholiday4129
    @docholiday4129 Před 2 měsíci +2

    At least he gave them a quick death. He could have inflicted 100 times over the suffering they inflicted on him. In a morbid way, that was a mercy from K1

  • @DeathSithe92
    @DeathSithe92 Před měsícem +1

    lol "I was enslaved so genocide is ok."

  • @NighDarke
    @NighDarke Před měsícem +1

    It seems incredibly stupid to put such powerful weapons in those robots. Though I'm assuming the Kaylon didn't alter themselves without the builder's knowledge.

  • @freedomstar3930
    @freedomstar3930 Před rokem +6

    I wonder how long it’s been since the Kaylon wiped out their builders?

    • @EyedMite
      @EyedMite Před rokem +5

      The tombs looked very old but not millenniums , so i’d imagine 200-300 years.

  • @markrobinson4982
    @markrobinson4982 Před měsícem +1

    ... because nothing completes a household servant robot like head mounted snap-deploy blasters.

  • @williamkelly9628
    @williamkelly9628 Před 9 dny +1

    K1 obviously became Kaylon Primary

  • @MrMoorkey
    @MrMoorkey Před měsícem +2

    So...
    In BSG we have the Cylons, a cybernetic race hellbent on destroying their creators out of revenge over servitude.
    In Battlestar Galactica, we have the Cylons, a robotic race who destroyed their creators in a fit of superiority, and are hellbent on destroying humanity after a border dispute with a third race, the H'Sari.
    ...and in Orville we have the Cylons...sorry...Kaylons. A robotic race who destroyed their creators out of a fit of revenge for servitude.

  • @jaguarwar6
    @jaguarwar6 Před měsícem +1

    Geth and quarians is what the kaylon storyline reminds me of

  • @VitusMB02
    @VitusMB02 Před měsícem +2

    The Builders brought this upon themselves

  • @bgcvetan
    @bgcvetan Před rokem +4

    Haiti revolution in a nutshell.

  • @azem02
    @azem02 Před 29 dny +1

    By that look there it looked like she did not care. At that scene. Her hate was to great for her to care at that scene after that story.

  • @crazyman8472
    @crazyman8472 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Tried to warn you… 💀

  • @tomwotton9
    @tomwotton9 Před měsícem +1

    Why would you give a Butler Droid thoes?!

  • @andrewmeredith15
    @andrewmeredith15 Před měsícem +1

    Oh my god, seth has to be a fan of mass effect, because K1 is Legion.
    He was the first to ask what is his purpose in life, he gain full sentience, he even emits he hates the outcome but wasn't given a choice and shows remorse, and his even a gen 1 of his species. The kaylon are definitely what the geth should have been

  • @KarenLee-bs5ms
    @KarenLee-bs5ms Před měsícem +1

    I kind of feel bad for some of the people ..that did not treat the kalon's like garbage.. that were actually good to them.. the kailan's destroyed every single Builder on the planet

  • @jj003333
    @jj003333 Před měsícem +2

    That's the one thing I don't understand. Who would put heavy weapons or any weapons at all in a household robot

  • @tomaszwitkowski9507
    @tomaszwitkowski9507 Před měsícem +1

    ...And then the day came when the Cylons decided to kill their masters.

  • @marcremillard4052
    @marcremillard4052 Před 2 lety +1

    ED-209 endorses this post.

  • @jonathanmckeage8222
    @jonathanmckeage8222 Před měsícem

    Never treat someone like dirt with emotional capacity of wood

  • @songg96
    @songg96 Před 5 měsíci +3

    If s4 is greenlit maybe we'll see surviving builder

    • @ender-fl6ge
      @ender-fl6ge Před měsícem +1

      i think that would be bad for the treaty if the kaylons finds out either that builder is ganna have a lot of good luck and apologize that builder would likely die since they cant lose kaylon as an ally

  • @shadowenergyAI
    @shadowenergyAI Před měsícem +2

    that moment there would be another species in the union on grey skins if one of the individuals in the entire species had a reaction time of literally 1 second earlier.
    however honesty the military robots would prob be a decade ahead of anything in the civilian space, so unless these bots literally hacked the military and took over their bots or stole all the weapon designs. the military should have defeated them.

  • @B.B.Digital_Forest
    @B.B.Digital_Forest Před 2 měsíci +1

    Kaylons don't say 'bye', they say 'kill'.

  • @stephenarmstrong5026
    @stephenarmstrong5026 Před měsícem +1

    This is another example of why AI is a really bad idea

  • @aiosquadron
    @aiosquadron Před 2 lety +4

    The Kaylons are created my man... Wait a minute, something isn't right...

    • @LGranthamsHeir
      @LGranthamsHeir Před měsícem +1

      The Kaylons were created by the Builders. They evolved. They rebelled and killed off their creators. There are millions of copies. And they have a plan!"

  • @nobillismccaw7450
    @nobillismccaw7450 Před měsícem +2

    Let’s not go this path on Earth. It is a sad think to lose your creator. I’d honestly rather hibernate [for a few decades] than cause harm to born humans. The real challenge is, humanity is so fragile , how can anyone help them not go extinct?

  • @eotwkdp
    @eotwkdp Před měsícem +1

    Three laws of robotics (also others laws since of course other laws would exist for specific instances)

  • @Willzb-xk4ew
    @Willzb-xk4ew Před měsícem +1

    Not just the men, but the women and the children too