History of WWI Primer 029*: Japanese "Arisaka" Type 30 Documentary
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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China's Small Arms of the 2nd Sino-Japanese War
Bin Shih & Stanley Zielinksi
Historical Dictionary of the Russo-Japanese War
Rotem Kowner
The Early Arisakas
Francis C. Allan , Doss H. White, Dr. Standley Zielinksi
Japanese Contract Rifles
Doss H. White , Francis C. Allen
The Arisaka Rifle
Bill Harriman
British Secondary Small Arms 1914 - 1919 Vol. 1
A. O. Edwards
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The subtle warm tones of the C&Rsenal cello primes my ears for Othias' sweet words :)
Henry, will you ever shoot an Othais gun?
@@LadyAnuB we actually shot a Russian contract Winchester 1895 and it was a horrible experience, we’d actually also talked about doing more stuff together too
@@9HoleReviews I be checking out that video then
@@9HoleReviews the secret to shooting a m1895 is chewing cocaine gum before you shoot.
Does that Finnish licorice do the same? Saw all the kids were into it M39 vid….
Sitting up rocking my newborn to sleep and a primer drops. Now we’re watching it as a father/daughter duo… life is good.
I remember those days👍👍 enjoy them.
Those days go fast! Enjoy these times. My 6 year old just climbed in bed and is watching with me!
Well this is aggressively wholesome 😌
Take good care (I know you will) of her. Last week I got to meet my one and only G Daughter. She lives in Australia and is 3.
@@samiam619 my granddaughter is three,she just like her mom,therfore likes outdoors,and etc. God bless from 🇨🇦
4:50
Honjo→本庄道三(Honjo dousan). He was the Chief of Rifle factory in Tokyo arsenal at rank of captain so maybe he wasn't civilian. Honjo cooperated with Arisaka(He was director of Tokyo arsenal at that time.) to make the next rifle a box magazine placed in the center of the gun instead of a tubular magazine. And they prototyped 6mm, 6.5mm and 7mm rifles, and as a result 6.5mm was the best.
Miyata→宮田太郎(Miyata taro). He was also the Chief of the Rifle Factory in Tokyo arsenal, but He was the successor to Honjo. At the same time, Nambu Kijiro was assigned to the Rifle Factory. Miyata is very proficient in mass production technology, and his scientific policy has increased the type 30rifle production from 150 per day to 400 per day.
Nambu kijiro said in his biography :The Type 30 rifle was completed by the hard work and ingenuity of Arisaka, Honjo, and Miyata.
sorry poor English.
Excellent English. Thanks for the information.
@@paulmanson253 Thanks!
Adding my thanks, arigato gozaimas. Sorry for the even worse Japanese
The tree part was awesome. I was just waiting for “the Larch”.
No 21. The Larch!
My apologies. No 1, The Larch
I just have to give you full props for finding a way to work in a wholly appropriate Monty Python reference into a documentary about a japanese gun.
That, my friend, is S tier content.
I see you recognized that reference from a really long ways away.
Thank you for posting, I was going to say something similar but you said it better.
Best bedtime stories ever, you both do incredible work. Thanks for working to preserve history for the masses.
Goodnight fren
Glad to see you guys are fans of Monty Python. The Larch.
国内だと無可動実銃しかないからなぁ…
国外でも可動個体が大事に使われ続けてるの見ると嬉しくなる。感謝ァ…
Ridiculous, you can't just assume the penguins will behave, not to mention the logistical issues with the elephant.
Surprisingly, the Korean Empire also adopted it as their standard issue rifle on December 28th, 1900 to replace the old Berdan Rifle and Remington Rolling Blocks. During that time, the Japanese company which sold the Type 30 rifle to Korean Empire suggested that they’ll send the blueprints and machine tools to produce the rifle and provide engineers as well. The Imperial Army of Korea liked this rifle with such of good offer and they want to get a license to produce it. However, the ministers who were Pro Russian disagree to adapt the Type 30 and the adaptation and license of Type 30 were delayed until 1903 to 1904. The arsenal was built in Yongsan from 1904 to 1905 and the production of the Type 30 Arisaka rifle under the license at the Yongsan Arsenal from 1905 to 1907. According to the record, the Yongsan Arsenal can produce 10 rifles and 3000 cartridges in the year and they produce one thousand five hundred rifles in total in the Month however someone claims that they produce more than three to five thousand.
But unfortunately, the Yongsan Arsenal shut down in 1907 when the Imperial Army of Korea has dismissed by Japan and so, the machine tools have been scrapped since the arsenal closed.
I didn't know that, but it makes sense considering where Korea was headed at the time, politically.
@@peteranderson037 Yeah and not just the political & diplomatic reasons, The company that sold the right to produce the Type 30 also suggests that they can send the engineers, and give the blueprints and machine tools for free.
But unfortunately, there are no documents that how many rifle are produced and no remain of Korean Empire made Type 30 rifle… 😢😢😢
I wanted to rewatch this video to learn how the Japanese dealt with using beechwood for their rifle stocks and you just happened to post the updated version, thank you for all your hard work!
I was wondering what type of wood was used. Looks like black walnut.
@@wesmcgee1648 The Japanese used both Japanese Beech and Japanese Walnut.
Kinda made me curious.
In europe both wallnut and beech were widely used for rifle stocks.
Is the wood of the european genuses (geni?) better for this purpose than the asian ones?
@@Bird_Dog00 I've heard it's not as hard as those.
Hi Othais, Mr.Allan and I collaboratively revised the Manchu Arisaka research in his 2022 revised The Early Arisakas book. Both 29 and 31 rifle are the same with full handguard and Mauser tangent sight. Only a small number of rifles using Type 30 hand guard and sight, which seems to replace damaged guns caused by transportation. And there is a 32 year rifle as well. We include good details of Guangxu rifles and carbines history.
Book name pretty please, Different Mark asks
@@Darious-_Milsurp_Mark The Early Arisakas, 2022 revised edition.
The Japanese guns were some of the more interesting for me due to things unique to them like the low-quality wood for their stocks, so it's nice to see this one expanded on. The associated Monty Python reference is just the icing on the cake!
_Number 3, the Larch. The Larch._
This is what popped into my mind as soon as he showed the first card.
Shame they didn't use Larix kaempferi so that No.3 could have been Japanese Larch
I do enjoy how it goes from Type 30, to , in British use, a whole paragraph for a name.
Let's go, almost 2am and yet will gladly watch this updated video on the beautiful Arisaka rifle
Nearly 11pm on the west coast and this is the perfect thing to play as I get ready for bed
Arisakas, Mausers, Springfields, SMLE, seems like the best rifle designs come after a war that someone wins despite having worse rifles than their opponents.
General: Of course, your excellency, our victory was assured.
[closes door]
General: Oh my god we SHOULD NOT HAVE WON THAT
Admiral: [just sobbing in a corner]
Drach. That was a pleasant surprise.
Never would have expected Monty Python references! Awesome!
The slideshow about trees literally made laugh out loud. This is my support comment.
24:18 I like Mae's antenna. It keeps her in close touch with Galactic Authority.
Hey it’s Mark…thanks for the thanks. You know you can hold on to the carbine a few months if you want? Mae shoot it to your hearts desire.
It looks like you got to test out the vent holes in the receiver and bolt. Check out the video at 24:40. Ruptured case?
Othais and 29 other dudes armed with Type 30 Rifles, demonstrating How Not To Be Seen by hiding in a bush while firing.
I do love how willing and wanting you are to update your episodes
Fact, Japanese men averaged 5 feet 4 when this rifle was issued. It was designed for shorter and smaller individuals.
"My glasses... Were creepier."
Well I'm glad you're the first to say that because I didn't want to.
the tree slideshow was an unexpected treat.
I have a carbine version of one of these and that little bugger has some bite to it. A buddy of mine has an amazingly clean full length rifle with original sling. Both have mums, no import markings. Supposedly they were war bring backs from a relative. I lucked out so hard finding those at an estate sale.
Another rifle that we do not see everyday in it's original configuration ! Thanks for saving our history.
I'm glad to find you returning to the Arisakas, I've always found them fascinating ! I hope you are able to cover the Murata someday, it seems like a fascinating rifle that is rarely covered in the west
Something to “go to sleep to” and then I can’t stop watching
I love the Arisaka and seeing you lot revisit this episode is a treat.
According to the book “Shots fired in anger: a rifleman’s view of the battle of Guadalcanal” by Lt. Col John B. George, the cleaning rod with brass tip, sadly missing here, was the tool used by the Japanese Imperial Army for depressing the firing pin during bolt disassembly.
I just watched this one earlier today. I'm going down the entire list again, I just finished up the carcano episode, thank goodness that I didn't get too far down the list before having to go back up!
Just picked one of these up! I absolutely love it and I’m glad to see more content on CZcams if it. Especially high quality content like this!
Great video. Thank you for making these brilliant content.
you and Mae are great presenters, thanks a lot! Also, the animations are just an added gift to the viewers, a great segment.
thank you for all that you do. you guys are the best
The slides of the trees made me chuckle 👌
Always entertaining 🤘
I recently picked up a vz58 and I’m really liking it, y’all mentioned it in you q&a’s which put it on my radar :) thanks for the recommendation.
The dedication is mimdblowing man
Cant say how excited i was to see another video drop
I had this in the background for my 2nd watch and noticed that the song playing when Mae shoots the carbine also appeared in Girls und Panzer, a pair of characters sing it when marching through the snow trying to scout out positions.
It's "Yuki no shingun" (The snowy march). A well known Japanese patriotic song.
I aspire to be as well remembered by history as Mr. Honjo.
Excited to see that Drach is making an appearance!
Dear Othias, thanks again for another fascinating show. One detail: Walnut, beech and judas are all fairly hard, dense and heavy. The problem with chipping comes from brittle characteristics having to do with the weak lignin between fibers and their orientation. You dealt with that on the rifle with the pieces glued up on one stock. In fact, walnut is perhaps the most common wood used in firearms, certainly with high quality ones. Several walnuts are not actually that, so common names in the wood market are tricky. Beech is common on planes and saw handles. Judas is lesser known to us but described as a hard furniture and tool wood. With any wood, burl is frequently used because there is not so much a single direction that the fibers take, rather they are are curled around each other. Keep 'em comin'!
thank you for this latest instalment of your awsomnes
Awesome Video!
So Drach is left handed. Without C&Rsenal I would never have known.
Me neither and I've ben subscribed to his channel for years.
Looked rather akward working the bolt with the left hand tough...
The fourth round blew gas out of the chamber 24:38
Nice catch. Good thing it has proper gas handling.
Loved the arisaka series and also this is the closest I have ever come to a premier.
And just in case Othias or Mae is reading, when will the browning pistol series continue?
Love the show!
Historic rifles and Monty Python references. Superb. :)
yuki no shingun aka the snow march nice
Case head failures in semi rimmed, rimmed, and belted magnums are just as destructive as rimless.
You can even see the vent holes in use at the 2nd from last round fired
Great video, my only comment would be that No. 1 will always be “The … Larch, the … Larch.”
Ah the Monty Python tree bit cracked me up. Sad that The Larch doesn't grow in Japan though.
love your videos
Thanks!
The Monty Python reference was pure gold!!!! 😂😂😂😂
the larch. *the* larch, Thee larch
I’m so impressed with your content that I became a subscriber.
Thank you for reminding me of Patreon. I've had a hard time, some time back, and had to cancel all subscriptions.
Just re-subbed! Always enjoyed these hour long video projects. Have a little appreciation! :)
Hello!, I also suggest that once the comb cartridges have been inserted in their feeding compartment, DO NOT remove the plate by pulling it with your fingers, as you can cut yourself. To do this, slightly push the latch and let it be the one to remove the plate and not your fingers. A greeting from Spain!.
Hola!, Te sugiero también que una vez introducidos los cartuchos del peine en su compartimento de alimentación, NO retires la chapa tirando de ella con los dedos, pues te puedes cortar. Para ello, empuja ligeramente el cerrojo y que sea él quien saque la chapa y no tus dedos. Un saludo desde España!.
24:37 gas venting works
Excellent update and general video, as usual.
As a question: are we aware that the top view in the carbine overview poster (25:45) is backwards?
wooooo new WW1 primer lets GOOOO
thank you for the great content and thank you to the people that give money so they can continue. i can hardly even pay the bills so sadly i cannot give as much as i would like to.
The most misidentified rifle in US shops. I've seen them listed as all sorts of stuff, including "Chinese army rifle"
Nice history lesson 👍
I just found out I have one. Thanks for the help.
18:50 The entire stock problem would have been for naught had the Japanese had the Larch. The Larch.
I love this channel.
and has fueled my gun hunts now that I can buy some.
currently wanting a lever gun.
thinking .45 colt. or .30-30
I am loving the monty python reference!
The great part for Mae is the short stock and light recoil. Finally a little sympathy for Mae!!! 😊
There's one of these at my uncle's gun shop right now. Matching with mum. Thinking about picking it up. Just bought an Eddystone m1917, so I need to chill out for a little while LOL.
I can send you ramen noodle recipes.
The unexpected lesson in "How to recognize different types of trees from quite a long way away" made me very happy.
Nice video.
Two of my fave CZcamsrs, each tend to do half a century long videos, will have crossover huh? Cool! :)
3:55 I sincerely apologise for coming off as too nitpicky, but Emperor Meiji was in fact born in 1852. His REIGN lasted from 1867 up til his death in 1912.
There are very few presenters to whom I can listen to such mechanical tedium for such long periods. Nonetheless this chanel imbues me with that little extra nudge of confidence when the inevitable firearms mechanics topics arise at the range or a party gone terrifically wrong. Another great job!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Great video! Not blaming the shooter or gun, but still had a good laugh at 25:10.
wow that bolt...that was complicated
The reason you sometimes experience sticking in the operation of the bolt is, as you noted, because of pressure applied to the bolt from the bolt handle. This pressure is the result of improper bolt operation on the part of the shooter. I am 70 years old and learned to operate a bolt action when I was 10.
Try this experiment. To prove my point draw an inverted "L" on a piece of paper with the short part going from right to left about 1", than moving strait back towards you about 3". Put a pencil between your thumb and index finger or thumb, index, and middle fingers and leave about 1 inch between your fingers and the pencil point. Put the point of the pencil on the far right point of the short leg of the "L". Now, WITHOUT STOPPING, in one smooth motion as fast or as slow as you like, trace the "L". Did your pencil follow the lines of the "L" perfectly? NO, you can't do it without stopping. Try it again, and again, 10 times in total. Look at your pencil lines, I'll bet they don't even match the lines you drew before.
I have watch many shooters, all much younger than me, operate the bolts using their thumb and index fingers or their thumb, index, and middle fingers. This would seem to give the shooter more control of the bolt's operation but that is just an illusion. You can't operate the bolt outside of the actions designed line of travel nor would the ability to do so be desirable. All you are doing is applying force to the bolt AGAINST your rifle's designed line of travel in an uneven and undesirable way. That can cause sticking. Your brain and your control of an object in your fingers would have to be perfect WITHOUT the rifle's action correcting your errors for the bolt to operate smoothly with even pressure, and you just can't do it. It may seem like you can and are are but you are not. Look at the "L" to see proof of what I am saying.
Try it at a moderate speed at first and then faster. The only time I have seen the thumb with index finger used successfully as part of "correct" bolt operation is when using the British Army's "Mad Minute". BUT (And this is a BIG but.) it takes a lot of practice (And ammo to practice with.). Watch these 2 videos and you'll see what I mean. czcams.com/video/FF6EH3Srrwc/video.html czcams.com/video/hibb5eX58hI/video.html
So we have to wait a bit for the episode on the Martini-Henry? Has Rob @ britishmuzzleloaders approved the content for this episode?
I have a couple of those to loan too….
On top of the Gewehr 1888, the Chinese were also using small numbers of the Mannlicher M1888 and M1890 at the time. There's also a possibility that the Remington-Lee was used in the First Sino-Japanese War as well, as it had been purchased and used in the Sino-French War.
Does that rack of rifles in the background make anyone else start to drooling ?
Comment for the algorithm. I actually already watched the prerelease on Utreon, but I don't mind giving it another go. If the ammo was actually available, I would enjoy having one of these myself.
Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina
It’s a great day!
how can you be at war with no "war were declared"?????
I said that too
No 7 The Larch, The Larch.
Go Drach!
The Lee Enfield has a gas escape system. The exit hole is on the left front of the receiver.
Nice
Is there a type 99 arisaka vid coming soon? If not, would you need one to use and if so I have a really nice example of a 6th series Nagoya arsenal type 99 if needed.
18:50 number 4 the larch.... THE LARCH...
No Larch ??? 😝. I had a huge grin when you reviewed the three trees available for stocks.
12:27 which prevents it from being able to reach the primer of the cartridge
I almost expected The Larch in the tree lineup.
6,5mm most be the best rifle kaliber ever made. Take a look at the 6,5x55. 120years old and still rocking
6.5 x 50mm Japanese is a very nice round, to, but 6.5 x 55mm Scandinavian, is pretty much a lead laser.
@@ScottRuggels yes if you look at the modern 6,5x47 and 6,5creedmoor they are pretty mutch a balestic kopies of the 6,5x55
Slight over pressure or poor seal on shot #4? Saw some gas leakage from the bolt that didn’t happen the other four shots.
Have you done a vid on the Turkish k98 ?