思春期で悶々とするキヨマサは誰も止められない【東山動物園】2023/09/22 金曜日
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名古屋市にある東山動植物園で撮影したニシローランドゴリラのシャバーニ一家です。
この日はキヨマサが興奮気味でドラミングをしたりネネにちょっかいを出したりと興奮気味。
お昼ご飯も待ち遠しい。
キヨマサとネネが交尾しているようなシーンがありますが､現地に毎日調査研究に来ている京都大学の先生はポーズだけだから大丈夫だと言ってました。
年頃となりキヨマサもよくアニーにちょっかいを出しますが､ポーズだけで挿入はしていないとの確認を取っています。
2023/09/22 Friday
The Shabani family of western lowland gorillas photographed at Higashiyama Zoo and Botanical Garden in Nagoya.
On this day, Kiyomasa was very excited, drumming and making fun of Nene.
I can't wait for lunch.
There is a scene where Kiyomasa and Nene appear to be mating, but a professor from Kyoto University who comes to the scene every day to conduct research said it was okay because it was just a pose.
Now that she's around that age, Kiyomasa often makes fun of Annie, but she confirms that she's only posing and not inserting herself.
#Gorilla #Shabani #シャバーニ
2023/09/22 金曜日
名古屋市にある東山動植物園で撮影したニシローランドゴリラのシャバーニ一家です。
この日はキヨマサが興奮気味でドラミングをしたりネネにちょっかいを出したりと興奮気味。
お昼ご飯も待ち遠しい。
キヨマサとネネが交尾しているようなシーンがありますが､現地に毎日調査研究に来ている京都大学の先生はポーズだけだから大丈夫だと言ってました。
年頃となりキヨマサもよくアニーにちょっかいを出しますが､ポーズだけで挿入はしていないとの確認を取っています。
2023/09/22 Friday
The Shabani family of western lowland gorillas photographed at Higashiyama Zoo and Botanical Garden in Nagoya.
On this day, Kiyomasa was very excited, drumming and making fun of Nene.
I can't wait for lunch.
There is a scene where Kiyomasa and Nene appear to be mating, but a professor from Kyoto University who comes to the scene every day to conduct research said it was okay because it was just a pose.
Now that she's around that age, Kiyomasa often makes fun of Annie, but she confirms that she's only posing and not inserting herself.
#Gorilla #Shabani #シャバーニ #東山動植物園 #東山動物園 #大猩猩 #고릴라 #गोरिल्ला #горилла #বনমানুষ
It’s so sad that Japan didn’t have a proper breeding plan in place. Their disregard has resulted in all the gorillas in Japan being too closely related. Gorillas reaching sexual maturity have no potential mates to create new troops. So these young and upcoming gorillas will mate with whoever is available and willing to mate. Father, mother, granny, daughter, son, brother, sister, granddaughter, grandson, will seek gratification with whoever is available to them. You are correct, they aren’t humans. But that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be treated humanely. Boy haven’t humans totally failed these creatures?? They deserve better, a much better and more fulfilling life than we dumb humans have given them!! Hopefully Japanese zoos will manage birth control better than they have everything else!!!
Thank You for commenting on what most of us is thinking to. You detailed and emphasized exactly what is Really happening in these zoo's. Thanks once again, take Care.
That’s more than a pose,, he’s got hips moving
He was 100% having sex with His Mother 😡
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
Eu so fico pensando o que acontece quando não está sendo filmado 🤦♀️ Kiyomasa tem que sair, depois pode ter outra briga familiar. E bem apenas queria que shabani não fosse muito sensível, porque todos eles aproveitam da bondade dele. Shabani e o gorila mais carinhoso, respeitoso e romântico que eu conheço. Concerteza se nene e Kiyomasa tivesse oumbi como líder já era... eles tem muita sorte!!
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
@@Mr.Gori_1996 I'm sure this professor is right. We often forget they are animals and live within a whole different kingdom. I'm sure the zoo wouldn't allow something that would harm them in any way.
He is a romantic for sure!😊
@@Mr.Gori_1996Annie e muito paciente mesmo adoro ela ❤. Espero que so seja posar mesmo...
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If I was able to travel and got to go see the Shabani troop I’d be like the kids yelling SHABANI I LOVE YOU 💕!!
I wish they could live in the wild.
I'm sorry for making you feel uncomfortable. Hello, Gorilla Japan ☆ Thank you for your support of the Japanese Gorilla Channel.
6:45 That is Definitely Not a Pose.
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
That's a lot of hip movement for a pose
It’s called sex
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
I love how the video poster gives us the thoughts from the gorilla expert as if it's okay. No one thinks is Kiyo is actually mating for real. He's humping her because he's going through natural gorilla hormones and urges. The point why people are upset, is because this type of behavior WILL eventually get him in a fight with his much larger father. It exactly what happens in the wild when the blackback is caught doing this by the Silverback. They fight, and the smaller of the two leaves. Here that can't happen, he's stuck in a cage which means both Kiyo and Shabani are in serious danger because the zoo is too crappy to recognize what every other zoo in the Western world does and WHY separating them is so important. Trying to make excuses and not saying something against this behavior to the zoo officials is wrong. Every zoo in Japan treats their gorillas like this and I'm starting to realize it's perhaps something in the Japanese culture that is seriously wrong with your lack of sympathy and awareness towards animal cruelty. Not that it's surprising with how other Asian countries treat animals but just disapponting to see that Japan and it's people not more evolved than this. You keep visiting this terrible zoo and giving them money so they can continue. Until your people stand up, and admit there is a problem it will continue and you're contributing it. And a last note, less barbaric people find incest of any kind disgusting to watch. Animals or not. Glad you get your views though.
You are right and I don’t think they have any plans how to avoid those situations. I like you thought the Japanese were a little more sophisticated than some others Asia countries were they eat animals and treating them so badly. But unfortunately they have this way where animals aren’t that special like we think they are. I sent money to the Kyoto zoo but seems too they are not improving idem.
Thank you for your comments and opinions. I apologize for making you feel uncomfortable.
@@stevemorris6790
Thank you for your comments and opinions. I apologize for making you feel uncomfortable.
@lizzyyork & @stevemorris6790 Would you please take your anti Asian bias and your divisive we vs. they differentiation and get lost? For good!
@@stevemorris6790Это очень хорошо, что Вы помогаете зоопаркам. Но мне кажется, что надо писать петиции, запрещающие зоопаркам в Японии содержать животных, особенно - гоминоидов. Такое безнравственное отношение к ним прикрывается научными домыслами, которые не соответствуют действительности. Мы видим, что самка находится в позе для спаривания и сын ничего не имитирует, а именно - спаривается со своей матерью. Пусть этот профессор расскажет, в каком возрасте в Европе взрослых детей забирают из семьи. Такого безобразия, как в Японии нигде нет. И почему этот профессор не объяснит, по какой причине самки не спариваются с Шабани, а с удовольствием подставляют свой зад для молодого самца и какую роль в этом играет Нене. Это или полное незнание поведения горилл в природе, а скорее всего, такими объяснениями прикрывают бездеятельность зоопарков и нежелание (невозможность) менять ситуацию. Я против содержания животных в зоопарках, но то что творят с нашими ближайшими родственниками в Японии - это безнравственно и противно. Я прошу прощения, что не пишу на английском языке. К сожалению, я плохо им владею.
He’s like meet me later when no cameras and you can have it all
8:32 For a few seconds I thought that was Shabani. Kiyo is growing fast! ❤
Kiyomasa is starting to look more and more like Shabani.
Самки предпочитают Киемаса.Шабани там никого уже.
A pose? hahahahahahahaha ok then lol
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
Wow, Kiyomasa mating with his mother. No wonder Shabani is mad at him all the time
Yes He was having sex with His Mother and Yes it’s going to end up in a Huge Fight one day 😡
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
Let's not forget gorillas are not human.
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
I feel sorry for these young gorillas.
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
Look how Kiyo has grown and he's mating with his mother.🙄🙄🤦😮🫣😱
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
@@Mr.Gori_1996у вас там всё нормально 😮! Деньги рулят.
@@Mr.Gori_1996ARE YOU INTENTIONALLY LYING OR STUPID?
Sono annoiati e tristi 🤔😟
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
Not “Posing”. They are mating.
100% !!! 😡
@nancyjohnson5868
I'm sorry for making you feel uncomfortable.
@@nancyjohnson5868 posing? Something definitely has been “lost in translation”!
@@Mr.Gori_1996Might as well just show what happens. They are captive animals with no healthy or normal outlet for their hormones. I doubt that gorillas prefer to mate with their relatives in the wild.
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Call it what you want but Kiyomasa is a M-Fr. I was glad to see him playing with his dad etc but that last little stir up is concerning. How Nene and Ai team with Kiyomasa. I wish Shabani would baptize them with his immense power and inflict pain and fear to restore his authority. 🦍
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
キヨマサとネネが交尾しているようなシーンがありますが､現地に毎日調査研究に来ている京都大学の先生はポーズだけだから大丈夫だと言ってました。
年頃となりキヨマサもよくアニーにちょっかいを出しますが､ポーズだけで挿入はしていないとの確認を取っています。
There is a scene where Kiyomasa and Nene appear to be mating, but a professor from Kyoto University who comes to the scene every day to conduct research said it was okay because it was just a pose.
Now that she's around that age, Kiyomasa often makes fun of Annie, but she confirms that she's only posing and not inserting herself.
#東山動植物園
Posing?? For what the cute visitor picture of the gorillas??? 🙄🙄 You believe that total ridiculousness over your own eyes?? You can’t possibly be that gullible and naive can you?? LOOK YOU COULDN’T WIPE THE SMILE OFF HIS FACE!!! That is the most ridiculous statement I’ve heard in a long, long time!!! It defies all logic and common sense!! It’s no wonder Japan was thrown out of WAZA if your supposed “experts” were speaking nonsense like that!!
ARE YOU CRAZY OR DRINKING THE KOOL-AID OR SMOKING SOMETHING!!!
To my knowledge their natural habitats don’t have leeks, lettuce, cabbages, peppers, chestnuts, strawberries, corn on the cob, onions, etc al. Forest greenery is natural for them. They are not human even though many of us love & admire them.
コメントありがとう御座います。
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Kiyo needs to find a better pose... 🤪
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
I thought that the Silverback was the only one that could have sex with his wives. I thought that Nene was retired from having sex with her husband. Now Kiyomasa is having sex with his mom Nene. Ai doesn't seem to be interested in sex with Shabani. What if Ai gets caught with her brother Kiyomasa?
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
They are animals not humans so this type of thing happens especially in Captivity. In the Wild they leave the family to find a mate. Also He’s still a Very Young male who Maybe copying his father. But this is natural behavior, I’m sure they have birth control they give Annie and the others . Poor Nene looks so frail. I hope she is ok. Love them all ❤
Its all fun and games until the silverback sees!! For whatever reason Japanese zoos think this is ok....weird!
Шабани всё давно видел , Шабани осёл!.Если бы Шабани гонял сына,то может тогда Киемаса и отсилили бы.Но,увы, Шабани это маникен уже.😢😢😢
@@djporter9434 yes and if Silverback sees then he could Really hurt his Son. Silverback’s Kill other males in the wild including the female in some cases. Seen many Documentaries on them. Good thing they aren’t Chimpanzees ! Things wouldn’t end so well. Just hope this Gorilla family can live peacefully without anything detrimental happening
Во!жарит старушку сыночек!😮😂😂😂 Где клоун 🤡 Шабани?Танцы танцует дурачок.
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.
Why does the Momotaro family eat better than this group? Isn't this zoo in Tokyo with more resources than Kyoto Zoo.
They don’t. This zoo provides more fruit, vegetables and fruits!
Everyone has different opinions about the zoo’s. The Shabani’s are fed well and will actually leave food sometimes. And sometimes they will willingly share with each other.
I agree. I feel like Momotaro's troop eat more nature shrubs and stems rather than fruit which is a good thing. I can definitely see a difference on condition between the two groups. Momotaro groups just seem healthier and happier in my view.
@@GypsyTarot , they aren’t! Could you please use your cognitive intelligence for once ? I know you like the Momotoro troop but facts are facts and you don’t have the right to create your own facts . Shabani troop is more healthy with black fur that shines versus grey dull fur of Genki and Kintaro plus tumor in Genki , terrible teeth on her etc etc . Aí Shabani wife is one the most beautiful female gorilla in the world and nene although older than Genki has a beautiful black fur that shines and matter of fact Momotoro troop tummies are full of gas because the terrible food they eat and it’s not your opinion because even for Japanese primates specialists the Kyoto zoo is considered one the worst in Japan based in facts so grown up !
@@GypsyTarot , and by the way Shabani troop just don’t eat fruits but a big diverse menu with vegetables and legumes and you must be one of few ones that saying the Momotoro troop eats better and looks better than Shabani! If was the truth the zoo would ask for money and idem the videographer.
人間から丸見えは
落ち着かないようおもえて、ゴリラが可哀想😢
もう少し草むらを増やしたり木陰になる木を植えて自然に近い感じにして上げたいです。
コメントありがとう御座います😊📝
野生のゴリラの群れをみると草むらの中に居ますからね。
Respectfully At what age do gorilla males no longer see their mother as such but a potential mating partner?
in the wild it's silverback's job to make sure that nobody mates with his females so naturally young blackbacks leave the troop
DISGUSTING !
Thank you for your comments and points. A professor at Kyoto University, a leading gorilla researcher who comes to the site every day to conduct research, said it was all about posing. Now that Kiyomasa is old enough, he often picks on Annie, but she says it's okay.