Learn Rapier IV. - First Guard

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • Part IV. of my new video series about fencing with the symbol of the renaissance - the rapier, according to the teachings of Salvator Fabris and other masters.
    The four guards in rapier correspond to four hand positions. So when we say 'first guard' or 'first position' the palm of the rapier hand should be turned outside. Altough the guard seems nice, it is not heavily used in single rapier due to the fact that it lefts us quite open and also the reach is not the farthest. If we’d like to use is, it is recommended to extend the arm fully forward in front of the head, which - without practice - may get a bit tiring.
    Rapier: Regenyei standard rapier and Regenyei cuphilt rapier
    Blade: 110 cm (43.3")
    Weight: 2.38lbs
    Music: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Konzert Fur Flaute, Harfe Und Orchester (K. 299) - Allegro

Komentáře • 58

  • @siliconjim2554
    @siliconjim2554 Před 5 lety +6

    Came here for the fencing, stayed here for the music...and the fencing.

  • @StarBoundFables
    @StarBoundFables Před 6 měsíci +1

    Awesome lesson, thanks Martin!

  • @rodrigolobo8471
    @rodrigolobo8471 Před 5 lety +9

    Ótimo! As técnicas de combate com rapieiras são as mais lindas da esgrima.

  • @adrianhoti8130
    @adrianhoti8130 Před 6 lety +7

    Such a beautiful art and deadly. The leg work i amazing. Keep up with the videos.

  • @themastermason1
    @themastermason1 Před 7 lety +5

    As a left-hander, I feel that the first guard is of better use to whenever one fights someone of the opposite handedness. While I do not have a very long history of fencing (1 semester of epee) I found that since your swords are on the same side you do not have to cross your body to engage the opponent's sword. Therefore the first and second guards become useful in single rapier.

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 7 lety +5

      Hi Scott! You're on the right track - in general, the first and the second guard are best when fighting a leftie (and vice versa). They give you an immediate strong opposition and are harder to parry.

    • @themastermason1
      @themastermason1 Před 7 lety +4

      Hi Martin, thanks. Watching Roland Warzecha's videos on "Becoming A Better Swordfighter" and the like were instrumental in discovering this and actually performing well in that semester of epee. The instructor couldn't teach me as exactly as everyone else since the terminology confused me and everything had to be reversed.

  • @adamjohn12
    @adamjohn12 Před 8 lety +2

    Using the prima guard to thrust and counter your opponents guard reminds me of your explanation of using right ochs in longsword to do the same. Excellent as always!

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 8 lety +2

      Thanks! In rapier the seconda is more suitable for similar purposes as right ochs in longsword, but in the demostrated situation, in the bind, the high prima finds the target easier in the vertical direction

  • @tiagodacruz2484
    @tiagodacruz2484 Před 5 lety +2

    Loved your videos.
    But I believe it is important to differentiate between first position and first guard. A guard, at least as I understand it, is a hand position in which you able to defend a line. A position doesn't have to defend a line but is good for moving into attack or defence.
    Of course different masters and systems have different nomenclatures and I am not terribly familiarized with your system's names. As I leaned them you have 8 hand positions (each with 2 to 4 main variations) that allow you to protect your whole body, the guard positions, being that the first is on your unarmed side just as you get your sword out of its scabbard. They are still taught in modern fencing, although I have documental evidence that they go back, with the same names here in Portugal, to, at least, the 1500's.
    Other positions, like the one you where calling the first, which seems a non defensive variation of second, do vary a lot from system to system. But are a different beast. 😀
    I'm curious, though, to know if the system you share here makes such differentiation.
    Thank you for your work. Keep it up. 😀

  • @arpioisme
    @arpioisme Před 8 lety +4

    i found this series also expanding my interpretation on sidesword fencing, especially the late bolognese like viggiani and dall'agocchie, thank you

  • @user-cn4wy1kk1x
    @user-cn4wy1kk1x Před 2 lety +1

    You look very professional!

  • @theoskyblue7633
    @theoskyblue7633 Před 8 lety +1

    Holy smokes you are fast,that's so nice of you and thanks for the lessons!

  • @lyingcat9022
    @lyingcat9022 Před 3 lety

    4 years, 17k views and STILL no dislikes! Bravo!

  • @questonickevalido
    @questonickevalido Před 8 lety +1

    Excellent work! Looking forward to see it complete :)

  • @ArthurHerbst
    @ArthurHerbst Před 7 lety

    Rapier fencing is so beautiful...
    Nice video!

  • @charlesdavis161
    @charlesdavis161 Před 8 lety

    need more videos. keep up the good work.

  • @jmagus
    @jmagus Před 8 lety

    Nice video! clear and well edited.

  • @seamusinmusic
    @seamusinmusic Před 8 lety

    This is really great.

  • @KilnFirelink
    @KilnFirelink Před 8 lety +6

    Nice video, scholagladiatoria did a video sending me this way so hopefully you get more subs from it and keep up the good work.

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 8 lety +5

      Thank you! Yeah I noticed quite some grow during the night :)

    • @SibylleLeon
      @SibylleLeon Před 8 lety +1

      Same here! Great channel, I'm glad I checked it out :-)

  • @kiselevmx
    @kiselevmx Před 8 lety

    You're great, we want more videos)

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 8 lety

      Thanks! As soon as I will be able there'll be a next one! In the last two weeks there were some obstructions

  • @user-oe3di1yc8y
    @user-oe3di1yc8y Před 8 lety

    Good lesson!!!

  • @christopheclugston
    @christopheclugston Před 4 lety +1

    You make it easy compared to what we had to do to learn 23 years ago

  • @amandahammond2691
    @amandahammond2691 Před 8 lety +3

    I'm researching Fabris' style for use in SCA rapier here in the US and have found these videos to be super helpful! How often are you planning on doing them?

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 8 lety +1

      Hi Mandy! Thanks!
      The original plan is once in every two weeks so if everything goes well this weekend we should have a new one

    • @amandahammond2691
      @amandahammond2691 Před 8 lety +1

      Outstanding! Glad to hear! I was pointed to Fabris' because I have some spacial reasoning and physical issues and was told that I may find Fabris to be more suited to my personal situation. Thus far, I agree wholeheartedly! It's a lot more comfortable to stand and move in those positions (and it does look good ;) ), and I'm understanding where my point is a lot better, too. I've only been researching this and trying it out for a few hours and I'm finding it more and more comfortable.

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 8 lety +2

      It's a great book. I've read and translated quite a number of manuals and I must say Fabris' book, the way he's describing and depicting things is trully very special. The man knew his business and also how to put the theory together.
      Good luck in your studies and practice!

    • @amandahammond2691
      @amandahammond2691 Před 8 lety

      Thanks!

  • @brandonfarfan1978
    @brandonfarfan1978 Před 5 lety

    Interesting.😃

  • @themodernmusketeer877
    @themodernmusketeer877 Před 2 lety

    I've been doing bolognese sidesword for about two years now, and it doesn't look like this would be too difficult to learn having that baseline to start with

  • @jessecollins3652
    @jessecollins3652 Před 5 lety

    Normally when I fence Rapier I use Godinho’s vulgar style but recently sparing in Rapier and Dagger. I wasn’t nearly as experienced in this style so I said “fuck it I’ll use what I learned on CZcams”. I always lunged from 1st position and it worked beautifully.

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 5 lety

      First position is one of the hardest to defend :)

  • @Mr-Tibbster
    @Mr-Tibbster Před 7 lety +1

    Do you have any advice on guards if you are a left handed swordsman? Will it change the dynamics significantly?

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 7 lety +2

      Hi! It will definitely change a few things mainly the opposing guards. E.g. your strong guard on the opponent's inside is seconda and on the outside quarta etc. Most of the tricks will work for you but you just have to adjust the side. Righthanders tend to have issues with lefthanders which is your advantage :)

  • @path0gen786
    @path0gen786 Před 6 měsíci

    Where do you find a practice rapier like that? Looks amazing!

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 6 měsíci +1

      We were using Regenyei rapiers in the vid.

  • @antonbaranovskiy7083
    @antonbaranovskiy7083 Před 8 lety

    Very interesting and useful! Your explanations are realy easy to remember. What kind of rapier are you using? Who made it?

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 8 lety

      Thanks Anton!
      The rapiers were made by Péter Regenyei:
      Regenyei standard rapier and Regenyei cuphilt rapier
      Blade: 110 cm (43.3")
      Weight: 2.38lbs (ca 1100-1200g)

    • @antonbaranovskiy7083
      @antonbaranovskiy7083 Před 8 lety

      Do you know something about rapiers made by such armouries as "Kovex-Ars", "Fabri Armorum", "Armory Marek"? Are they good for the training/sparring purposes? Mayby if you dont know, you may advise me some forums where I can ask this question?

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 8 lety

      Haven't handled their rapiers, but I did handle their swords are they are considered "junk" in here. There are at the cheap end, the finish is bad and they are usually extremely heavy. If you check the Kovex-Ars rapiers - the weight they list at 114cm is 1,5kg! My rapier is 127cm and weighs approx. 1,1kg.
      So, if a few extra € aren't a problem, I would rather recommend Peter Regenyei, Marco Danelli etc

    • @antonbaranovskiy7083
      @antonbaranovskiy7083 Před 8 lety

      And where do you get rapier blunt tips? I have seen in internet only darkwood armory tips. (Here in Ukraine people just weld metal tips to the hanwei blades, and it seems quite disgusting to me)

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 8 lety

      All of our rapiers have folded tips. Usually we just put some tape around and some additional cloth on it. Some people use coins :)

  • @DoctahDizzle
    @DoctahDizzle Před 7 lety +1

    Why is the hand used to guard? I'm very new to HEMA.

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 7 lety +6

      Hi Doctor D!
      The off hand is used to guard and deflect possible targets for two reasons - you're trying to make some use of it besides being another target :) and most importantly - from a life saving perspective it's better to have your arm pierced or wounded than for example your neck :)
      The rapier masters were often showing use of various things to protect you besides the weapon itself - most prominent being the dagger, the cape or even a lantern.

    • @DoctahDizzle
      @DoctahDizzle Před 7 lety

      Martin Fabian Thank you very much! :D

  • @rossginn5333
    @rossginn5333 Před 5 lety

    Im very interested in learning rapier techniques but have not invested in any equipment or education. Do you have any suggestions on how a fresh duelist should begin his or her development?

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 5 lety +2

      Hello Ross! It's relatively easy. There are some sources you can start reading yourself. I'd suggest looking at wiktenauer.com for a general overview and searching for books like Venetian Rapier (by Tom Leoni, Giganti), Salvator Fabris or Capo Ferro. Last of the named can be found as a free PDF. Rest is finding someone you could practice with the basics. Cheapest ist getting some sticks, economy is buying sports fencing epees but the regular way is getting a pair of rapiers. Price can vary from 200-400€ per piece. Masks for starters can be found on Ebay or bought from specialized companies like Allstar, PBT, Leon Paul etc. Good luck :)

    • @rossginn5333
      @rossginn5333 Před 5 lety +1

      @@MartinFabian Thank you so much for the advice. I'll get to my studies now :-) I really enjoy your channel and keep up the good work.

  • @daxmafesi
    @daxmafesi Před 5 lety

    Where can I buy these practice rapiers?

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 5 lety

      Hello Dax! The ones I use in that particular video were made by Peter Regenyei from regenyei.com/.

  • @jesush7662
    @jesush7662 Před 4 lety

    A lot of cutting for a thrusting weapon XD

    • @MartinFabian
      @MartinFabian  Před 4 lety +2

      A lot of assumptions for a super large group of weapons :)
      To paraphrase Giganti: In a brawl most men cut anyways.