I'm happy this happened. We've had the very best QBs (Baker, Kyler, our current 5 stars) and we haven't won a semi-final. We need a defensive-minded coach so we can play some real D and run the damn ball. Defense still wins championships, see Georgia.
@@conservachick100 I agree 100%! Despite having a high powered offense (except this year) for past 6-7 years, it’s gotten OU nowhere with regard to National Champions. They need a great defense first!
WTF sums it up quite well! It is a shocker, but overall I actually feel like this is a blessing in disguise. Yes Lincoln is a bright mind and he has won a lot of games for us. But he also walked into a really good situation. He did not have to rebuild OU (which he will have to do at USC). I do not think we are necessarily better now than we were when he started. The culture has definately become a lot softer under him and I also think that many defenses are catching up to his scheme. Maybe his head was not always in the game due to all of this, but the offensive production has regressed. So far he has not shown me that he can adjust (in-game too). I am even glad that Grinch will most likely follow him, along with some of the other coaches too. This gives us a chance at a complete overhaul, which might be for the good in the long run. Especially with the SEC move coming!
Just think back to the game in Lawrence. You can't convince me they even had a game plan. The team was epically unfocused likely because their coach probably wasn't even physically present. He spent way too much time "recruiting for Ou" in California for that to be true. His story today is just him trying to save face. He didn't just decide today, he was waiting for the season to be over. His own personal worst case scenario would've been if his team went to a playoff and won. The man is a spider, spinning his lies at us like he did to every recruit he told he was here for the long haul. Personally, my loathing for who he turned out to be will never cool. I'm still bitter about that onside kick call at Oregon in 2006. I'm gonna be pissed about this a lot longer.
There’s a reason the sec teams are built the way they are. To compete with bama. They don’t build these high powered offenses, they stop em with defense. And they win their games. And they’re physical. Something Oklahoma has been lacking for a few years now.
We are in good hands with Stoops and Castiglione... They won't panic and neither should we. Lincoln simply announced to the world he isn't the brave man to lead this team into the SEC, so we've actually dodged a bullet even though it doesn't feel that way right now.
I don't buy the "SEC dominance" nonsense. OU would easily be the 2nd best team in the SEC East, or West right now. SEC recruiting is slimy & dirty & maybe Lincoln didn't want to get involved with that. OU isn't willing to lower academic standards to get certain kids in either
After the Baylor loss Lincoln took a "personal day" during midweek practice. He just said he had a family matter. Likely met with USC AD and that's when he knew he was gone.
I think he was gone the moment the fans started booing and chanting for Caleb. He didn't like his "genius" being questioned/challenged. His butt was hurt.
It's interesting because the OC at USC is Graham Harrell, who happens to be the first QB that Riley coached at Texas Tech. I'm sure he'd been buzzing in Riley's ear.
Just say it, Riley threw the season so he could recruit at USC before early signing day. His playcalling was pure suicide to OU, and he sacrificed Rattler and Caleb .
Seems ridiculous, except for the fact it makes a shitload of sense. It felt like a game that was only close because of athletes making big plays on offense and defense. He irrefutably sabotaged OUs recruiting. Just flat out, there is no way its a coincidence. Some of these guys bolted because they knew something his current team didnt know.
He's considered a top 5 coach because of the team he was handed. Basically any coach would've had similar success. Lincoln riley didn't get baker and Kyler drafted #1. Riley hasn't developed any QB's. Look at Rattler.
Riley was leaving OU before they went to SEC period. He was terrified of being exposed in the SEC. I'm just thankful he took that sorry assed DC with him. I would like a defensive minded coach going forward into the SEC. Brent Venables would a good hire in my opinion. He builds solid defenses, championship defenses at that. Hire a really good OC and go beat the rest of the SEC.
Venables was fired by OU so he might not come back. He got picked up at Clemson and led them to two national championships. We screwed the pooch before Riley ever came to Norman.
Recruits say they want to “play in the SEC” Find the right hire with tides to the league, that knows the times (social media, etc..) balanced staff that can be dedicated to recruiting, but knows how to develop. Might be seeing a few more 3 ⭐️ for a min. 🔑 Find a way to keep Demarco and you can still keep the west coast pipeline alive, while possibly opening up a new one with new HC
West coast pipeline is done. Riley is an excellent recruiter and let's be honest Southern Cal is just the better place to be lol. OU is in for a long couple of years
I love when people says this shit, like the scenery is any better in fucking Alabama, or Georgia. This kids don't give a shit about that. They care about $$ first and foremost now, and playing in spots that get them showcased, for potential NFL runs.
Hopefully most of the guys lincoln recruited aren't like him. Although, we all saw this year, this team didn't seem bought in too much, they were somewhat lucky to not be like 7 and 5. His offense looked shaky as hell this year. If he is a genius, not getting much out of highly recruited wrs and qbs makes me question that. Either he road Stoops' coattails as far as they'd take him then stole the towels, or he really wasn't doing his job. I mean shit, he spent tons of time recruiting for USC, why would he do more than the bare minimum? When you discover what you thought was healthy flesh was cancer all along, you have to get it all out and burn that shit.
Lincoln is young guy from a small town in Texas. He probably took Caitlin On recruiting trips to the coast and just liked it there. I was stationed at Los Alamitos so I understand the appeal. It’s hard to drive the PCH from LA to Malibu and not like it. He got starry eyed. USC probably started grooming him for this a long time ago. USC doubled the money and he knew OU wouldn’t match it. Simply put it was a Gold Rush move. My opinion is that Bob could commit to OU to stabilize the program keep Coach Bedenbaugh and groom his next replacement.
Yeah from my California experience, he may have fallen in love with the beautiful weather, huge recruiting pool, and had an easier schedule going forward..
I lie to avoid having people be mad at me when I'm still around for comeuppance too. I see something I like, then I tell everyone whatever it takes to keep them from calling me what I really am. Before I bolt at least. Families lie to each other all the time! That locker room was family!
Amen Teddy, Joe C is the man. Since his arrival at Oklahoma in April 1998, the school has won a total of 19 national championships in football (2000); softball (2000, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2021); men's golf (2017); men's gymnastics (2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018); and women's gymnastics (2014, 2016, 2017).
Lincoln peaked. A solid 2 loss team is what you get with Riley. Nothing more, nothing less. The players were consistently getting beat in the areas of aggression and physicality. Team regressed a little bit every year after he took over. OU will be set back for 2-3 years but we’ll be fine. USC can have him. He also does us the favor of taking Grinch with him.
I'm sad lincoln left because I was looking forward to that 2023 class but if he couldn't get the job done with the rosters he had he wasn't going to make it in the SEC. It's definitely going to be a couple year rebuild. We've had a great 21 year run.
That says alot about Lincoln Riley,going to the SEC was a challenge that he just couldn't accept. Knowing he couldn't compete with Nick Saban, Kirby Smart,even Ol' Miss(Kane Kiffin). He apparently wanted the easier schedule & to play UCLA, Washington, Oregon State. Out there he can be the man,in the SEC,he can be one of the men. He can make more money, which he would've received here @ OU. Basically he'll have an easier schedule. All I can say is good luck & good riddance,didn't even have the guts to tell anyone ahead of time. And waited until the last minute to pull the rug out from under everybody,even Joe Castiglione.Teddy & Gabe are right about the way he left,instead of finding out. By reading about it or hearing about from someone. Let's see how Riley handles USC & keep it going. Like Bob handled it here & handing it down to him. Well everyone knows the rest of the story....
@@dalesyang its not even about scarred its going. To. Be extremely difficult for. Any coach to win ten games consistently in the sec besides uga or bama cant blame. For getting out of dodge
I think this is good thing for the program. We have been stagnate for the last few years. We have not been competitive on the national level for the entire time he has been head coach.
We’ve had a soft program since Bob left and to me, that started with Lincoln. Him moving to LA makes perfect sense, no rain, no snow, sunny everyday, soft folks out there too. Teddy had my exact list but I added Urban Meyer. Like Matt Ruhle, how much does he love the NFL?
People fail to realize Cali is not what it used to be. The narratives we see are because people in their golden cuffs on the sports talkshows don't understand the American mindset and still think California is one of the best states in America. California used to be great, it's a cesspool now; particularly Southern California.
Couple things. You said Lincoln did a good job. I completely disagree. All of his success was built off of Bob’s recruits and him inheriting a perfect situation. Lincoln’s game managing cost us a title shot in 2017. I firmly believe Bob Stoops is the better coach and that Lincoln Riley got progressively worse each year. Also you said Oklahoma is going to be just fine. How? Basically every good coach in college football got extended so there isn’t anyone to hire. Not to mention him most likely taking OU staff with him, and some OU players. We also are going to have almost every single top recruit we had decommitt from us. Lincoln Riley imploded the OU program on his way out and completely disrespected the service Bob Stoops did him. I really don’t think OU will recover from this. That’s my honest opinion and it pains me to say it. Look are former blue bloods like Nebraska, USC, Miami, and Texas. All of them said they’d be fine and that their program is above regressing to that level. But they weren’t. This is fucking catastrophic. It fucking kills me to say it and be so pessimistic but I’ve seen so many other programs fall it seems to be only a matter of time til OU has fallen. Fuck Lincoln Riley, he is a straight up bitch.
So let me get this straight...he both didn't do a good job, and he just rode Stoops recruits (for five years, do you know how recruiting works?)...but this is unrecoverable and OU is screwed? Which is it? Either he's a bad coach and was just riding Stoops coat tails, or OU is devastated by losing a great coach that they can't replace. This is a stunning display of cognitive dissonance.
I truly believe the program can make a smooth transition with a good hire. In my opinion, Lane Kiffin and Josh Heupel could be GREAT fits. Their offenses are elite and know how to develop QBs. I know it sounds kind of crazy, 5 years ago I wouldn’t have felt that way about them lol it HAS to be someone with strong SEC TIES. Maybe, Mark Stoops? I would rather the two I previously mentioned.
His weird "that's between us" statement tells me it wasn't a positive vibe. You don't keep positive comments "between us". Riley screwed Stoops' own son over, I'm sure it's as personal as can be.
If I think about it, right when that decision was being finalized, was right when ou started to struggle. We could be undefeated rn and on the way to the playoffs if coaches minds were on coaching rather than leaving👎
Look in the Dictionary under: “Stand up Guy, admirable”. The definition: Bob Stoops. Good luck in the SEC and hope y’all get the Coach you’re looking for.
Judging by the offense this year, the recruits are the biggest loss by a mile. That and the fact his defenses were average at the very best, it may work out for the best. With the transfer portal being an option now, it's likely possible to use it as a stop gap to fix the bitch's mess and stabilize recruiting.
Riley and staff have been checked out all season. It really explains a lot about how the team performed this season. It sucks. So much wasted potential.
Riley acted like he had never seen the 8 man zone...in the 2nd half... almost every team they played this year used the 8 man zone.. you would think he figured it out by now
If only we had running backs... I guess the rules don't allow you to hand it off twice in a row. I think he wanted to go network before his hype came into focus for what it was. Not having an OC is an arrogant move to me, and it makes total sense now that he tore away the mask.
I've been positive all season long about our team. We were top 5 in recruiting for 22-23 seasons. Rome wasn't built in a day and I think Coach Riley is going to regret his decision in the next two years. If an analysis was done of Coach Saban and how long it took him to build up Alabama based on recruiting, I think you would see that it would be paying dividends in year 5 thru 10 of a coach's recruitment. All that aside, OU isn't just a good school for football based solely on who is the head coach We were an offensive powerhouse long before Riley arrived and we have had some outstanding defenses over the years also.. I welcome seeing us play in the SEC. I don't care if we get chili whomped for the first few years. We are going to come out much better for it based on competition there. I wanna play Top 10 teams all year long, every year. #BoomerSooner
It didn’t take Saban long at all. In 07 he had them at 7-6 I think, but by 08 they were competing with Florida for best team in the league, and therefore the country. He’s just a great fuckin coach.
Cost of living calculator says that $8,000,000 a year in Norman, Oklahoma, is equivalent to $13,400,000 a year in Los Angeles. In other words, he needs to make $13.4 million a year in LA to maintain the same lifestyle as he does in Norman. Good thing he wasn’t looking at Cal or Stanford (San Francisco Bay Area). He’d have to make $18.1 million a year. Basically, it’s the same amount of money. Thus, that’s not the driving force. *I’m under the assumption he was given $15 million a year for ten years. I think Hoover reported that.*
Love this podcast guys. Teddy I've always been a fan of you listen to you on the radio since you first started. Gabe I think you are a great fit anywhere you go. I have a bias towards you. I honestly think the team you guys have during OU game days is the best it's ever been. I know there's a lot more that goes on behind the scenes but Toby Teddy and Gabe you guys do a phenomenal job bouncing off each other the chemistry is ridiculous. And Gabe I do not know how you know every penalty is about to be called before it's called I love it it's like you have eyes everywhere
you guys are the most rational sooners fans. Okstate is trying to lose on big stage to sooners by handing out 3 TOs. But sooners failed to use those opportunities.
Thank God for Bob Stoops. A real role model. I'd love to have him back. I'm too young to remember much of Switzer, but Stoops will always be the man to me. I don't agree with his politics necessarily but I still respect him as much as I possibly could.
I definitely understand him taking a job for more money and even the SEC reason. Its a job and nobody expected him to be here forever. But it was 100% the way he did it. The day after losing to our in state rival, after deceiving everyone the night before telling lies of omission, right before SIGNING DAY, taking the assistants and maybe QBs with him, not talking to the team till his hand was forced all with ONE game left in the season. A bowl game no less. Couldn't he have wrapped up the season and left the program in the post season in a respectful tactful way?
Proof that it was going down before bedlam - Jason Kersey tweeted the quote from Lincoln “let me stop you there. I’m not going to be the next coach at LSU. Next question.” Well, I was browsing Twitter late Saturday night and saw Raleek Brown retweet that quote and wrote 😈🤫. So Lincoln had already talked to some of his recruits. I’m sure to check and see if they’d be interested in going with him. I liked Lincoln and honestly understand if he wants to coach somewhere else. Just hate how it all went down and the fact he had to lie about it after the fact. Like you guys said, it was very deceiving when he said the LSU quote instead of just saying something along the lines of “I don’t want to talk about that right now bc we just finished playing.”
Why wouldn't he go to USC? If the goal is to win the NC, then his odds to accomplish that are much higher through the PAC-12 than through the SEC. The fact that USC was able to land Lincoln Riley of all people just goes to show which job is more highly thought of. The only reason USC is bad at the moment is because Clay Helton was in charge for six years.
Lincoln Riley at press conference after OSU: "All of us are trying to make this place better, make this program better, and so you don't do that without working together conversing with each other, and so of course we're going to continue to do that but we work well together and we're going to keep working well together." 12 hours later: see ya, I'm outta here.
This a great day, Sooners. Lincoln has talent and intelligence as an OC - although he rarely knew how to go for the kill in big games. He is a really smart nerd with a clipboard, not a leader of men. He is not a Champion. We were getting further from winning a semifinal game under him every year. Would love to hear the guys talk more about what they saw change in the team culture under Lincoln.
It got worse every year guys doing stupid shit like bookie then all the kids getting in trouble and dismissed over ridiculous stuff... didn't happen with Bob
I KNEW Rileys play calling was too vanilla vs past years he was SAVING his good stuff for USC instead of giving our boys the best shot at winning only calling shotgun plays over and over and over.. When you go to Ou to coach you are there to retire not pick up and leave bcuz you cant cut it.. BOOO to you Riley and i hope you have nothing but 7 win seasons at Usc
I got to say I’m a bit taken aback by the OU fans reaction. Chris Beard told us he was “home” when he came to Tech. Never listen to the lies those coaches tell. It’s all money. Y’all are about to go into the snake pit. And Lincoln knew it.
Lincoln is one of the biggest snakes there is my guy. He knew the entire season, probably even before the season, this was his last year. But instead of being a man, and going to AD and just saying "Hey I don't want to coach in the SEC" Therfore giving OU, a program that has paid him, a shit ton of money, time to prepare. Like finding a new HC, salvaging some recruiting. He chooses to not say anything, not give his best efforts to the his players, because his mind isn't on the team. And still recruit guys to go to OU, knowing he isn't staying. To then do that bullshit, and say he isn't going to LSU, making seem like he's staying, to like 10 hours later say he's going to USC. And to take like a whole 3 minutes to tell his players about it. Lincoln Riley is a cowardly, fraudulent, hypocrite.
Here’s the thing. We have bob in the short term. If we could convince him to stay for a little bit we would be ok to spend a couple years finding the guy we really want
Don't be surprised to see Spencer Rattler end up at USC. Spencer was Riley's first QB recruit. I got the feeling Lincoln never really wanted to pull Spencer, but I feel the OU boosters put so much pressure on him to play Caleb, plus the game with TX was going so poorly he was almost forced into putting in Caleb. I don't know really what it is but I've always felt Lincoln and Spencer had a special bond. This is all just my opinion, but I will not be surprised if Spencer ends up at USC.
Absolutely and then top that off he ran down Caleb virtually the entire time after he was the starter. I don't see Caleb leaving but I think Rattler knew thie was comwhivh is why he stuck around bet he announces his transfer in the next week.
I disagree with everyone saying the team has regressed under Lincoln. Last 3 seasons under Bob were 8-5, 11-2 (playoff appearance) then started 1-2 and finished 11-2 with no playoff appearance. Lincoln made the playoffs first 3 years on the job, OU fans trying to cope by saying it’s a good thing he’s gone
I agree but Lincoln never won the big one so maybe it will be better in the long run but the way things are happening I think we just lost about 5 years of progress with how the recruiting classes are falling apart and how guys are transferring.
Two years of recruits, gone. Program set back at least 6 to 5 years. We had our coaches, staff, and players completely ripped off by one individual. It's taking the entire future of a football program and stamping a different logo on it all. He has torn down what took 23 years for Bob and Castiglione to build.
Riley is a great offensive mind but far from the best when it comes to in game play calling. He made a lot of questionable calls during big games. He also abandoned the run and we have always been a historic RB school! I’m es he was a good coach but he did not bring a Championship to Norman! We Will Be Just Fine! Boomer Sooner!
Legacy? His name is poison now. If I had memorabilia I'd shred and burn the shit. He'll that's his M O, that'd make his signature more valuable after all.
This wasn’t USC vs OU this was the P12 vs OU. The whole P12 needs this to work. This is their ticket back into the CFB playoff. He’s the king in the West.
The LSU job could be filled… LSU was being selective Napier and Kiffin wanted and want the LSU job. Aranda would’ve taken it. LSU missed on the Whales… they need to settle soon or it’s gonna be bad.
I think you nailed it. AND everyone has a right to earn the best living they can in the environment they choose for their family and enjoy all the fruits that are available. LA weather or OK weather....no brainer except crappy politics in LA.
Harder to get much further away from the SEC than USC. USC still gonna probably have to beat the SEC to win the natty though so with Lincoln’s style of play USC probably won’t have any more success than OU had against the SEC under his leadership. OU should go old school and build the line of scrimmage, run the ball, play action and play defense then y’all will be in a better position to be able to finish the job when you get the opportunity; which is never gonna happen with Lincoln regardless of where he’s coaching. The only hope Lincoln/ USC will have is if the REAL football teams eliminate each other because he’s already shown his style can’t get it done. Is Lincoln likely to change his style? Probably not.
The irony here is, if we'd won the conference this would've screwed us even harder. Maybe if they'd made a playoff we could've sighed some recruits before the weasel sprung his plot.
Watching this now in the spring of 2024…after Brent Venables beat a CFP Texas team and got OU to 10-2 and USC just finished 7-5 with a whimper…the grass isn’t always greener! Wish TBOW all the best in Big 10 play this season lol
This game was designed for OU to lose from the beginning no telling how far in advance, the season had to come to an early end for Riley so he could make his way to USC and get started with the new job, with national signing day in a few weeks USC needs to have a coach in place now not a coach thats still coaching in the post season.
Well, not practicing special teams all year will do that for ya. Makes me wonder what we really lost except for some players, recruits and a shitton of clout chasing.
In regards to Karma, do you think that you just got done dirty or do you think that OU is reaping for the blindside to the B12? First time watcher and great podcast, btw.
I’m a diehard OU alum living in LA. One thing you guys are getting a bit wrong is that the SC fans aren’t as serious about their team as OU fans. That’s flat out wrong. The SC fans are as die hard as we are. The difference is, LA county has about 4x the population as the state of OK, and the fan base is pulling from that population. There definitely is more to do in So Cal than OK, so it may appear there’s not as much interest in college football, but again, not true. It’s just a much smaller percentage.
The title of this podcast should be, “What prompted Lincoln Riley to leave?” They spent 2 hours talking in circles to say, “He’s a bitch!” You can tell they want to say it as well.
Lifetime OU fan & OU alumn here. If you think there is karma then it was due for OU (and Texas). They have screwed the Big 12 more than once over money. I'm having doubts about leaving the Big 12. I'm not going to miss overrated and untrustworthy Riley. Hopefully long run this all works out for the Sooners.
Ikard and Lehman what do you think about a screen pass on 3rd down on the 25? DB's and WR's were headed to the end zone. Heavy pass rush by the D. Stogner crossing taking a LB. I am thinking first down and maybe a TD.
Riley lost the fire somewhere during the season. Rather than compete for a title now he took a rebuilding job. He had some great pieces coming together for next year.
Personnelly I don't think he moved out there for just the living reasons. He will get paid double the money, but he will pay double or even triple on cost of living, restrictions, and taxes than he would have in Oklahoma. Sure better view (ocean front/land) and better weather but there is a reason so many people left California and headed to Nevada or the Midwest area. I think it has to do with OU going to the SEC. I'm sure he will do fine and I appreciate all that he has done for Oklahoma and wish the best, but damn it hurts to know that he will also be taking some of our good future recruits.
I don’t have an issue with Riley leaving. I’ve always had that in the back of my mind. Admittedly, he’s going to a place that suits him better in many ways. We’ll be fine. Yes we might have another setback but The University of Oklahoma Football will be back on top. Crimson and cream. The cream always rises to the top.
I hope Oklahoma gets back to playing good defense (as we did most of this yr) and running the ball. I think the team has been soft the last few seasons and lacks a killer instinct.
It's strange watching this 4 months after LR left. They don't even mention anything about Bob Stoops stepping in for recruiting and to coach the bowl game. (Of course no one knew what bowl or what the opponent is yet). But now, April 12th, so much has changed and OU is in a MUCH better space. BV has infused the fan base, the culture, and the players with his energy and new staff. We are starting to understand also how poor some aspects of the football program were under Reilly. This hire is exactly what OU needed. At this point no one is upset anymore that he's gone. We actually feel blessed that he is gone. We were a good team, now we are primed to becoming GREAT!
Don't let recent history fool you, USC is a better job. The ceiling is higher than in Oklahoma. USC is one of the few programs that is always a few years from a national title if led the right way. USC is in a talent-rich region and will be an almost lock in the expanded playoffs. OU is about to be lost in the crowd in the SEC.
could be wrong about the PI but when I watched that play in slo-mo it really looked like the WR was pulling that arm of the defender , but it think it is easily going the other way just how i looked at the body motion looked more like the WR trying to sale contact cause the DB really only moved his arms when he put his hands up in the air lol idk still was a great night of football
I'm happy this happened. We've had the very best QBs (Baker, Kyler, our current 5 stars) and we haven't won a semi-final. We need a defensive-minded coach so we can play some real D and run the damn ball. Defense still wins championships, see Georgia.
I agree. After I went through the five stages of grief during the last 24 hours, I started to realize this might be the best thing for OU. #BOOMER
@@conservachick100 I agree 100%! Despite having a high powered offense (except this year) for past 6-7 years, it’s gotten OU nowhere with regard to National Champions. They need a great defense first!
@@notdeadyet3929 Yes...especially for the SEC move!!
Brent Venables please come home
In hindsight, thinking about how the offense & special teams have played, Riley checked out in September.
It's only sour grapes if the thing you lost isn't exposed as a clout chasing liar in the process. Knowing what we know now, good riddance ya puke.
AGREED 👊🏿
Facts!!! Something seemed off about this team all year. An we see why now he wasn't focused on us all year an it showed.
Yes sir, maybe even sooner.
Also easy to see he had zero reason to win Bedlam and play in the championship game. I feel bad for the athletes.
WTF sums it up quite well! It is a shocker, but overall I actually feel like this is a blessing in disguise. Yes Lincoln is a bright mind and he has won a lot of games for us. But he also walked into a really good situation. He did not have to rebuild OU (which he will have to do at USC). I do not think we are necessarily better now than we were when he started. The culture has definately become a lot softer under him and I also think that many defenses are catching up to his scheme. Maybe his head was not always in the game due to all of this, but the offensive production has regressed. So far he has not shown me that he can adjust (in-game too). I am even glad that Grinch will most likely follow him, along with some of the other coaches too. This gives us a chance at a complete overhaul, which might be for the good in the long run. Especially with the SEC move coming!
Just think back to the game in Lawrence. You can't convince me they even had a game plan. The team was epically unfocused likely because their coach probably wasn't even physically present. He spent way too much time "recruiting for Ou" in California for that to be true. His story today is just him trying to save face. He didn't just decide today, he was waiting for the season to be over. His own personal worst case scenario would've been if his team went to a playoff and won. The man is a spider, spinning his lies at us like he did to every recruit he told he was here for the long haul. Personally, my loathing for who he turned out to be will never cool. I'm still bitter about that onside kick call at Oregon in 2006. I'm gonna be pissed about this a lot longer.
There’s a reason the sec teams are built the way they are. To compete with bama. They don’t build these high powered offenses, they stop em with defense. And they win their games. And they’re physical. Something Oklahoma has been lacking for a few years now.
We are in good hands with Stoops and Castiglione... They won't panic and neither should we. Lincoln simply announced to the world he isn't the brave man to lead this team into the SEC, so we've actually dodged a bullet even though it doesn't feel that way right now.
You are bleeding recruits lmao. You guys got set back 6 years dummy
@@Bucktit1029 it'll be okay little guy
I don't buy the "SEC dominance" nonsense. OU would easily be the 2nd best team in the SEC East, or West right now. SEC recruiting is slimy & dirty & maybe Lincoln didn't want to get involved with that. OU isn't willing to lower academic standards to get certain kids in either
@@dweez4703 we have the NIL now so it should be less slimy?
thank you for saying this I (WE) needed to hear it.
If you really look deep... Defenses have figured out Lincolns play calling styles and tendencies.
Without a doubt. Big time. Not a surprise. You only stay ahead so long. Got to keep evolving or line up with all 5 stars
I think he quit trying to win because he wanted out…..
Stayed up late just for this. Thank you, guys.
I'll take Luke Fickell.
After the Baylor loss Lincoln took a "personal day" during midweek practice. He just said he had a family matter. Likely met with USC AD and that's when he knew he was gone.
But the liar said he didn't know he was leaving until Sunday morning. Why on earth wouldn't you believe him?! Oh right... that.
I think he was gone the moment the fans started booing and chanting for Caleb. He didn't like his "genius" being questioned/challenged. His butt was hurt.
Personal day might have been LSU swinging and missing.
It's interesting because the OC at USC is Graham Harrell, who happens to be the first QB that Riley coached at Texas Tech. I'm sure he'd been buzzing in Riley's ear.
Just say it, Riley threw the season so he could recruit at USC before early signing day. His playcalling was pure suicide to OU, and he sacrificed Rattler and Caleb .
And I'll never understand ericgray returning kicks when Mims and Mario were both healthy
Seems ridiculous, except for the fact it makes a shitload of sense. It felt like a game that was only close because of athletes making big plays on offense and defense.
He irrefutably sabotaged OUs recruiting. Just flat out, there is no way its a coincidence. Some of these guys bolted because they knew something his current team didnt know.
@@johnl5350 Yeah it was also close because the players wanted to win without realizing that Lincoln didn't want to win.
I bet stoops is regretting handing keys to him.
I know I'm regretting that right now and I'm sure you are too. But hey, this team almost won the conference without a head coach.
He's considered a top 5 coach because of the team he was handed. Basically any coach would've had similar success. Lincoln riley didn't get baker and Kyler drafted #1. Riley hasn't developed any QB's. Look at Rattler.
Thats a valid point. Jalen hurts was already a stud
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I coached ball for 39 years. Workin the camp day Lehman got offered. You guys are THE BEST. NO bullshit. No speculation. Keep it up.
Riley was leaving OU before they went to SEC period. He was terrified of being exposed in the SEC. I'm just thankful he took that sorry assed DC with him. I would like a defensive minded coach going forward into the SEC. Brent Venables would a good hire in my opinion. He builds solid defenses, championship defenses at that. Hire a really good OC and go beat the rest of the SEC.
Venables was fired by OU so he might not come back. He got picked up at Clemson and led them to two national championships. We screwed the pooch before Riley ever came to Norman.
Recruits say they want to “play in the SEC”
Find the right hire with tides to the league, that knows the times (social media, etc..) balanced staff that can be dedicated to recruiting, but knows how to develop. Might be seeing a few more 3 ⭐️ for a min.
🔑 Find a way to keep Demarco and you can still keep the west coast pipeline alive, while possibly opening up a new one with new HC
West coast pipeline is done. Riley is an excellent recruiter and let's be honest Southern Cal is just the better place to be lol. OU is in for a long couple of years
I love when people says this shit, like the scenery is any better in fucking Alabama, or Georgia.
This kids don't give a shit about that. They care about $$ first and foremost now, and playing in spots that get them showcased, for potential NFL runs.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed DeMarco Murray keeps his job or is promoted within the program.
Demarco isn't leaving
Hopefully most of the guys lincoln recruited aren't like him. Although, we all saw this year, this team didn't seem bought in too much, they were somewhat lucky to not be like 7 and 5. His offense looked shaky as hell this year. If he is a genius, not getting much out of highly recruited wrs and qbs makes me question that. Either he road Stoops' coattails as far as they'd take him then stole the towels, or he really wasn't doing his job.
I mean shit, he spent tons of time recruiting for USC, why would he do more than the bare minimum? When you discover what you thought was healthy flesh was cancer all along, you have to get it all out and burn that shit.
Lincoln is young guy from a small town in Texas. He probably took Caitlin On recruiting trips to the coast and just liked it there. I was stationed at Los Alamitos so I understand the appeal. It’s hard to drive the PCH from LA to Malibu and not like it. He got starry eyed.
USC probably started grooming him for this a long time ago. USC doubled the money and he knew OU wouldn’t match it. Simply put it was a Gold Rush move.
My opinion is that Bob could commit to OU to stabilize the program keep Coach Bedenbaugh and groom his next replacement.
Yeah from my California experience, he may have fallen in love with the beautiful weather, huge recruiting pool, and had an easier schedule going forward..
I lie to avoid having people be mad at me when I'm still around for comeuppance too. I see something I like, then I tell everyone whatever it takes to keep them from calling me what I really am. Before I bolt at least. Families lie to each other all the time! That locker room was family!
This comment right here is real life. Do not underestimate a wife saying I’m ready to move. Especially, when a husband can get a raise.
Amen Teddy, Joe C is the man. Since his arrival at Oklahoma in April 1998, the school has won a total of 19 national championships in football (2000); softball (2000, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2021); men's golf (2017); men's gymnastics (2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018); and women's gymnastics (2014, 2016, 2017).
@Timmy Pruitt So a school should only have football and basketball?
Did you see the play calling in the second half. He pulled a Kevin Durant
Man get outta my head lol I said the same thing he quit on his team 3 games ago probably longer than that.
Kiffin is a HARD NO ! Teddy is dead on. Kiffin is a CLOWN 🤡
Lincoln peaked. A solid 2 loss team is what you get with Riley. Nothing more, nothing less. The players were consistently getting beat in the areas of aggression and physicality. Team regressed a little bit every year after he took over. OU will be set back for 2-3 years but we’ll be fine. USC can have him. He also does us the favor of taking Grinch with him.
I'm sad lincoln left because I was looking forward to that 2023 class but if he couldn't get the job done with the rosters he had he wasn't going to make it in the SEC. It's definitely going to be a couple year rebuild. We've had a great 21 year run.
He likely really re ruined them to USC from the beginning. I wish them all the worst.
He was never recruiting them for us anyways sure he planned on taking them with him the entire time
The best part is that we still have Bob Stoops around and he will have a hand in helping choose the next coach.
That says alot about Lincoln Riley,going to the SEC was a challenge that he just couldn't accept. Knowing he couldn't compete with Nick Saban, Kirby Smart,even Ol' Miss(Kane Kiffin). He apparently wanted the easier schedule & to play UCLA, Washington, Oregon State. Out there he can be the man,in the SEC,he can be one of the men. He can make more money, which he would've received here @ OU. Basically he'll have an easier schedule. All I can say is good luck & good riddance,didn't even have the guts to tell anyone ahead of time. And waited until the last minute to pull the rug out from under everybody,even Joe Castiglione.Teddy & Gabe are right about the way he left,instead of finding out. By reading about it or hearing about from someone. Let's see how Riley handles USC & keep it going. Like Bob handled it here & handing it down to him. Well everyone knows the rest of the story....
@@dalesyang its not even about scarred its going. To. Be extremely difficult for. Any coach to win ten games consistently in the sec besides uga or bama cant blame. For getting out of dodge
Brent Venables! Pay him any amount it takes!
Zach Kittley as Offensive Coordinator and QB's Coach.
I prefer Grinch to go away.
Grinch is going with Riley to USC
I want Brent Venables too..
I think this is good thing for the program. We have been stagnate for the last few years. We have not been competitive on the national level for the entire time he has been head coach.
At least we have you two guys staying with us, that takes the sting out of it
What guys? I know Alex Grinch is going to USC with him..
@@405boy4 dude, I'm talking about the two guys on the screen, Teddy and Gabe 😂 come on!
Caleb did great for not having a coach this whole time. When your HC/OC/QB coach if house hunting all season, he doesn't have much time for ya.
As a Sooners fan I thank you for all of your hard work! Boomer Sooner 🙏🏽👑✊🏽
Kevin Durant has now been replaced as Most Hated Former Oklahoma Sports Figure.
We’ve had a soft program since Bob left and to me, that started with Lincoln. Him moving to LA makes perfect sense, no rain, no snow, sunny everyday, soft folks out there too. Teddy had my exact list but I added Urban Meyer. Like Matt Ruhle, how much does he love the NFL?
soft is an understatement they would get embarrassingly demolished in their CFP appearances
Agreed on the soft part man wet TP soft……
Urban Meyer would be a complete disaster.
@@mikesparks6368 It would be a complete win.
People fail to realize Cali is not what it used to be. The narratives we see are because people in their golden cuffs on the sports talkshows don't understand the American mindset and still think California is one of the best states in America. California used to be great, it's a cesspool now; particularly Southern California.
teddy nailed it! joe c. is the one we need to keep!
Couple things. You said Lincoln did a good job. I completely disagree. All of his success was built off of Bob’s recruits and him inheriting a perfect situation. Lincoln’s game managing cost us a title shot in 2017. I firmly believe Bob Stoops is the better coach and that Lincoln Riley got progressively worse each year. Also you said Oklahoma is going to be just fine. How? Basically every good coach in college football got extended so there isn’t anyone to hire. Not to mention him most likely taking OU staff with him, and some OU players. We also are going to have almost every single top recruit we had decommitt from us. Lincoln Riley imploded the OU program on his way out and completely disrespected the service Bob Stoops did him. I really don’t think OU will recover from this. That’s my honest opinion and it pains me to say it. Look are former blue bloods like Nebraska, USC, Miami, and Texas. All of them said they’d be fine and that their program is above regressing to that level. But they weren’t. This is fucking catastrophic. It fucking kills me to say it and be so pessimistic but I’ve seen so many other programs fall it seems to be only a matter of time til OU has fallen. Fuck Lincoln Riley, he is a straight up bitch.
So let me get this straight...he both didn't do a good job, and he just rode Stoops recruits (for five years, do you know how recruiting works?)...but this is unrecoverable and OU is screwed? Which is it? Either he's a bad coach and was just riding Stoops coat tails, or OU is devastated by losing a great coach that they can't replace. This is a stunning display of cognitive dissonance.
I truly believe the program can make a smooth transition with a good hire. In my opinion, Lane Kiffin and Josh Heupel could be GREAT fits. Their offenses are elite and know how to develop QBs. I know it sounds kind of crazy, 5 years ago I wouldn’t have felt that way about them lol it HAS to be someone with strong SEC TIES. Maybe, Mark Stoops? I would rather the two I previously mentioned.
In the end he won exactly one game he probably shouldn't have won and lost a handful the he should have won
@@HB-tf5mv lane Kiffin is a terrible hire. Especially for the culture at OU. I like the other two though.
@@pdxholmes Let the guy grieve in peace man 😂
BRING BACK BOB. Bob only stepped down cuz Lincoln had other HC offers.. He's probably more pissed than anyone.
His weird "that's between us" statement tells me it wasn't a positive vibe. You don't keep positive comments "between us". Riley screwed Stoops' own son over, I'm sure it's as personal as can be.
If I think about it, right when that decision was being finalized, was right when ou started to struggle. We could be undefeated rn and on the way to the playoffs if coaches minds were on coaching rather than leaving👎
I refuse to believe that Lincoln didn't tank the season in order to get to USC for early signing period.
Best part of this decision is we won't have to listen to him say "We're close"
Look in the Dictionary under: “Stand up Guy, admirable”. The definition: Bob Stoops. Good luck in the SEC and hope y’all get the Coach you’re looking for.
Judging by the offense this year, the recruits are the biggest loss by a mile. That and the fact his defenses were average at the very best, it may work out for the best. With the transfer portal being an option now, it's likely possible to use it as a stop gap to fix the bitch's mess and stabilize recruiting.
Riley and staff have been checked out all season. It really explains a lot about how the team performed this season. It sucks. So much wasted potential.
Riley acted like he had never seen the 8 man zone...in the 2nd half... almost every team they played this year used the 8 man zone.. you would think he figured it out by now
If only we had running backs... I guess the rules don't allow you to hand it off twice in a row. I think he wanted to go network before his hype came into focus for what it was. Not having an OC is an arrogant move to me, and it makes total sense now that he tore away the mask.
Can't we just get Gabe and Teddy to do the jobs? Let's get a chant going!!! Let's go Gabe and Teddy let's go!!!
I've been positive all season long about our team. We were top 5 in recruiting for 22-23 seasons. Rome wasn't built in a day and I think Coach Riley is going to regret his decision in the next two years. If an analysis was done of Coach Saban and how long it took him to build up Alabama based on recruiting, I think you would see that it would be paying dividends in year 5 thru 10 of a coach's recruitment. All that aside, OU isn't just a good school for football based solely on who is the head coach We were an offensive powerhouse long before Riley arrived and we have had some outstanding defenses over the years also.. I welcome seeing us play in the SEC. I don't care if we get chili whomped for the first few years. We are going to come out much better for it based on competition there. I wanna play Top 10 teams all year long, every year. #BoomerSooner
Lmao your program is legit collapsing atm.
We used to play top 5 teams every year long before Rioey arrived and we were tougher for it!
It didn’t take Saban long at all. In 07 he had them at 7-6 I think, but by 08 they were competing with Florida for best team in the league, and therefore the country. He’s just a great fuckin coach.
Lincoln sold the house, emptied the bank account, and took the dog. I could tell somethin was off just from watchin games.
Cost of living calculator says that $8,000,000 a year in Norman, Oklahoma, is equivalent to $13,400,000 a year in Los Angeles. In other words, he needs to make $13.4 million a year in LA to maintain the same lifestyle as he does in Norman. Good thing he wasn’t looking at Cal or Stanford (San Francisco Bay Area). He’d have to make $18.1 million a year.
Basically, it’s the same amount of money. Thus, that’s not the driving force. *I’m under the assumption he was given $15 million a year for ten years. I think Hoover reported that.*
Don't forget that Oklahoma is run by sane people, too. That alone is worth staying for.
I wonder if he got USC to agree to pay the crazy California state income tax (12.3%?).
Love this podcast guys. Teddy I've always been a fan of you listen to you on the radio since you first started. Gabe I think you are a great fit anywhere you go. I have a bias towards you. I honestly think the team you guys have during OU game days is the best it's ever been. I know there's a lot more that goes on behind the scenes but Toby Teddy and Gabe you guys do a phenomenal job bouncing off each other the chemistry is ridiculous. And Gabe I do not know how you know every penalty is about to be called before it's called I love it it's like you have eyes everywhere
Not an Oklahoma fan, but I really believe the Sooners can do better than Riley.
I wouldn't mind if you guys would come coach at Oklahoma 🙂
Chad Morris is looking.
His time is over. Defenses caught up to his offense. Give us Bob for a season or two, and let it happen naturally. We don’t have to panic.
you guys are the most rational sooners fans. Okstate is trying to lose on big stage to sooners by handing out 3 TOs. But sooners failed to use those opportunities.
Thank God for Bob Stoops. A real role model. I'd love to have him back. I'm too young to remember much of Switzer, but Stoops will always be the man to me. I don't agree with his politics necessarily but I still respect him as much as I possibly could.
I definitely understand him taking a job for more money and even the SEC reason. Its a job and nobody expected him to be here forever. But it was 100% the way he did it. The day after losing to our in state rival, after deceiving everyone the night before telling lies of omission, right before SIGNING DAY, taking the assistants and maybe QBs with him, not talking to the team till his hand was forced all with ONE game left in the season. A bowl game no less. Couldn't he have wrapped up the season and left the program in the post season in a respectful tactful way?
The best analysis I've seen so far.
Yes!! That's exactly it.
Simmons, Bedenbaugh and Grinch are going to USC.
👏🏻
Proof that it was going down before bedlam - Jason Kersey tweeted the quote from Lincoln “let me stop you there. I’m not going to be the next coach at LSU. Next question.” Well, I was browsing Twitter late Saturday night and saw Raleek Brown retweet that quote and wrote 😈🤫. So Lincoln had already talked to some of his recruits. I’m sure to check and see if they’d be interested in going with him. I liked Lincoln and honestly understand if he wants to coach somewhere else. Just hate how it all went down and the fact he had to lie about it after the fact. Like you guys said, it was very deceiving when he said the LSU quote instead of just saying something along the lines of “I don’t want to talk about that right now bc we just finished playing.”
Probably won't happen but I would love to see venables back
Why would Brent come back to a mess? Clemson is a nice place to be.
@@ncm-jl3nu money. Seems to be the silver lining. And clemson isn't as shiny of a job as it once was.
That would be my #1 choice
@@ncm-jl3nu he won't be the head coach at Clemson anytime soon and Venables has a good relationship with JC
Venables landed in Oklahoma today. That is Fact Checked.
Thanks for the 21st birthday shoutout guys, it was a fun one. Definitely a birthday (and podcast) I won’t forget.
Why wouldn't he go to USC? If the goal is to win the NC, then his odds to accomplish that are much higher through the PAC-12 than through the SEC.
The fact that USC was able to land Lincoln Riley of all people just goes to show which job is more highly thought of. The only reason USC is bad at the moment is because Clay Helton was in charge for six years.
Exactly!
Lincoln Riley at press conference after OSU: "All of us are trying to make this place better, make this program better, and so you don't do that without working together conversing with each other, and so of course we're going to continue to do that but we work well together and we're going to keep working well together." 12 hours later: see ya, I'm outta here.
This a great day, Sooners. Lincoln has talent and intelligence as an OC - although he rarely knew how to go for the kill in big games. He is a really smart nerd with a clipboard, not a leader of men. He is not a Champion. We were getting further from winning a semifinal game under him every year.
Would love to hear the guys talk more about what they saw change in the team culture under Lincoln.
It got worse every year guys doing stupid shit like bookie then all the kids getting in trouble and dismissed over ridiculous stuff... didn't happen with Bob
I KNEW Rileys play calling was too vanilla vs past years he was SAVING his good stuff for USC instead of giving our boys the best shot at winning only calling shotgun plays over and over and over.. When you go to Ou to coach you are there to retire not pick up and leave bcuz you cant cut it.. BOOO to you Riley and i hope you have nothing but 7 win seasons at Usc
Riley wasn't saving his good stuff for USC, he just doesn't have much good stuff. He can't hack it in the SEC and he knows it.
I got to say I’m a bit taken aback by the OU fans reaction. Chris Beard told us he was “home” when he came to Tech. Never listen to the lies those coaches tell. It’s all money. Y’all are about to go into the snake pit. And Lincoln knew it.
Lincoln is one of the biggest snakes there is my guy.
He knew the entire season, probably even before the season, this was his last year.
But instead of being a man, and going to AD and just saying "Hey I don't want to coach in the SEC"
Therfore giving OU, a program that has paid him, a shit ton of money, time to prepare. Like finding a new HC, salvaging some recruiting.
He chooses to not say anything, not give his best efforts to the his players, because his mind isn't on the team. And still recruit guys to go to OU, knowing he isn't staying.
To then do that bullshit, and say he isn't going to LSU, making seem like he's staying, to like 10 hours later say he's going to USC.
And to take like a whole 3 minutes to tell his players about it.
Lincoln Riley is a cowardly, fraudulent, hypocrite.
I don’t think LR would have ever won #8 for OU. He was just too soft on the players and they always underachieved because of it.
The number of Gabe crazy eyes on this episode is off the chart.
Yes thank you for keeping us updated
OU DAILY REPORTS: Dennis Simmons, Bill bedenbaugh, Alex Grinch are going with him to USC.
Bye
defense has been trash, the whole program gets embarrassed in any CFP appearance so
Those are literally three hardcore OU fans want fired
1-2 in championship November and then he quits the next day. Strong character. If you are associated with USC, can you believe a word he says to you?
Man you guys are the best
Here’s the thing. We have bob in the short term. If we could convince him to stay for a little bit we would be ok to spend a couple years finding the guy we really want
Brent venibles landed in oklahoma today. Fact checked
@@lesterakalezer9891 That would fit Castiglione's M.O., and I will take him. I also like Luke Fickell.
@@lesterakalezer9891 Bleacher Report is already saying it is a done deal.
@@patrickquibodeaux4438 I would have tbought they would have took the time to go through a handful of people.
@@lesterakalezer9891 source. I know he was in Oklahoma but is it in writing yet?
Don't be surprised to see Spencer Rattler end up at USC. Spencer was Riley's first QB recruit. I got the feeling Lincoln never really wanted to pull Spencer, but I feel the OU boosters put so much pressure on him to play Caleb, plus the game with TX was going so poorly he was almost forced into putting in Caleb. I don't know really what it is but I've always felt Lincoln and Spencer had a special bond. This is all just my opinion, but I will not be surprised if Spencer ends up at USC.
Absolutely and then top that off he ran down Caleb virtually the entire time after he was the starter. I don't see Caleb leaving but I think Rattler knew thie was comwhivh is why he stuck around bet he announces his transfer in the next week.
I disagree with everyone saying the team has regressed under Lincoln. Last 3 seasons under Bob were 8-5, 11-2 (playoff appearance) then started 1-2 and finished 11-2 with no playoff appearance. Lincoln made the playoffs first 3 years on the job, OU fans trying to cope by saying it’s a good thing he’s gone
I agree but Lincoln never won the big one so maybe it will be better in the long run but the way things are happening I think we just lost about 5 years of progress with how the recruiting classes are falling apart and how guys are transferring.
Two years of recruits, gone. Program set back at least 6 to 5 years. We had our coaches, staff, and players completely ripped off by one individual. It's taking the entire future of a football program and stamping a different logo on it all. He has torn down what took 23 years for Bob and Castiglione to build.
no way it is a 5-6 year step back
First thing I thought when I heard this was "Well, the Bedlam game officials just got let off the hot seat."
Riley is a great offensive mind but far from the best when it comes to in game play calling. He made a lot of questionable calls during big games. He also abandoned the run and we have always been a historic RB school! I’m es he was a good coach but he did not bring a Championship to Norman! We Will Be Just Fine! Boomer Sooner!
Ya and let's put Eric gray back to return kicks while Marvin Mims qnd Mario Williams are both healthy? Hmm 🤔 ya horrible idea that lost us the game
Legacy? His name is poison now. If I had memorabilia I'd shred and burn the shit. He'll that's his M O, that'd make his signature more valuable after all.
We got BAMBOOZLED!
You mean like the way the big 12 got bamboozled? Traitors beget traitors. You reap what you sow.
This wasn’t USC vs OU this was the P12 vs OU.
The whole P12 needs this to work. This is their ticket back into the CFB playoff.
He’s the king in the West.
The LSU job could be filled…
LSU was being selective Napier and Kiffin wanted and want the LSU job.
Aranda would’ve taken it.
LSU missed on the Whales… they need to settle soon or it’s gonna be bad.
I think you nailed it. AND everyone has a right to earn the best living they can in the environment they choose for their family and enjoy all the fruits that are available. LA weather or OK weather....no brainer except crappy politics in LA.
"better call from a burner phone" I fell out of my chair!!
Harder to get much further away from the SEC than USC. USC still gonna probably have to beat the SEC to win the natty though so with Lincoln’s style of play USC probably won’t have any more success than OU had against the SEC under his leadership. OU should go old school and build the line of scrimmage, run the ball, play action and play defense then y’all will be in a better position to be able to finish the job when you get the opportunity; which is never gonna happen with Lincoln regardless of where he’s coaching. The only hope Lincoln/ USC will have is if the REAL football teams eliminate each other because he’s already shown his style can’t get it done. Is Lincoln likely to change his style? Probably not.
The irony here is, if we'd won the conference this would've screwed us even harder. Maybe if they'd made a playoff we could've sighed some recruits before the weasel sprung his plot.
Watching this now in the spring of 2024…after Brent Venables beat a CFP Texas team and got OU to 10-2 and USC just finished 7-5 with a whimper…the grass isn’t always greener! Wish TBOW all the best in Big 10 play this season lol
Any truth to the rumor that Demarco yelled at LR during the team meeting?
I haven’t heard anything about this, but I hope it’s true.
This game was designed for OU to lose from the beginning no telling how far in advance, the season had to come to an early end for Riley so he could make his way to USC and get started with the new job, with national signing day in a few weeks USC needs to have a coach in place now not a coach thats still coaching in the post season.
Well, not practicing special teams all year will do that for ya. Makes me wonder what we really lost except for some players, recruits and a shitton of clout chasing.
Agreed. He threw a couple games to get out of here as early as possible.
In regards to Karma, do you think that you just got done dirty or do you think that OU is reaping for the blindside to the B12?
First time watcher and great podcast, btw.
Oh boy this episode is going to be a good one.
I’m a diehard OU alum living in LA. One thing you guys are getting a bit wrong is that the SC fans aren’t as serious about their team as OU fans. That’s flat out wrong. The SC fans are as die hard as we are. The difference is, LA county has about 4x the population as the state of OK, and the fan base is pulling from that population. There definitely is more to do in So Cal than OK, so it may appear there’s not as much interest in college football, but again, not true. It’s just a much smaller percentage.
riley may have cost OU a shot at the playoffs.
The title of this podcast should be, “What prompted Lincoln Riley to leave?”
They spent 2 hours talking in circles to say, “He’s a bitch!” You can tell they want to say it as well.
Also, I hope Joe C talks to Dan Lanning. That’s a name that intrigues me.
Same.
Amen Lanning Brady Bienemy my top 3
Lifetime OU fan & OU alumn here. If you think there is karma then it was due for OU (and Texas). They have screwed the Big 12 more than once over money. I'm having doubts about leaving the Big 12. I'm not going to miss overrated and untrustworthy Riley. Hopefully long run this all works out for the Sooners.
Ikard and Lehman what do you think about a screen pass on 3rd down on the 25? DB's and WR's were headed to the end zone. Heavy pass rush by the D. Stogner crossing taking a LB. I am thinking first down and maybe a TD.
Teddy Lehman, from a lifetime OU fan please coach some or all of the Defense please and thank you brother.
Riley lost the fire somewhere during the season. Rather than compete for a title now he took a rebuilding job. He had some great pieces coming together for next year.
Lincoln can take a swan dive off a very high cliff. Guy just screwed this program worse than any coach in history
Personnelly I don't think he moved out there for just the living reasons. He will get paid double the money, but he will pay double or even triple on cost of living, restrictions, and taxes than he would have in Oklahoma. Sure better view (ocean front/land) and better weather but there is a reason so many people left California and headed to Nevada or the Midwest area. I think it has to do with OU going to the SEC. I'm sure he will do fine and I appreciate all that he has done for Oklahoma and wish the best, but damn it hurts to know that he will also be taking some of our good future recruits.
I don’t have an issue with Riley leaving. I’ve always had that in the back of my mind. Admittedly, he’s going to a place that suits him better in many ways.
We’ll be fine. Yes we might have another setback but The University of Oklahoma Football will be back on top. Crimson and cream. The cream always rises to the top.
21 years.....
@@DontDrinkthatstuff lol Nice troll account name.
I hope Oklahoma gets back to playing good defense (as we did most of this yr) and running the ball. I think the team has been soft the last few seasons and lacks a killer instinct.
Good point, look at Georgia this year, great defense run the ball.
As a Ohio state fan I feel the same right now with osu. I’m hoping its just a one year thing.
@@Isaac121 OSU is a well coached team at least, and doesn't fold easily.
Boys... the PI at end no call...ridiculous. anyways.... hope we go after Dabo and bring back venerable with him. Or kellen Moore 🤞🙏
It's strange watching this 4 months after LR left. They don't even mention anything about Bob Stoops stepping in for recruiting and to coach the bowl game. (Of course no one knew what bowl or what the opponent is yet). But now, April 12th, so much has changed and OU is in a MUCH better space. BV has infused the fan base, the culture, and the players with his energy and new staff. We are starting to understand also how poor some aspects of the football program were under Reilly. This hire is exactly what OU needed. At this point no one is upset anymore that he's gone. We actually feel blessed that he is gone. We were a good team, now we are primed to becoming GREAT!
Probably because this was recorded the Sunday night after bedlam Saturday and things were still happening in real time.
I think that Gundy got wind before the game. He was so relaxed, there was something just not right
Don't let recent history fool you, USC is a better job. The ceiling is higher than in Oklahoma. USC is one of the few programs that is always a few years from a national title if led the right way. USC is in a talent-rich region and will be an almost lock in the expanded playoffs. OU is about to be lost in the crowd in the SEC.
I feel like saben would be the only trade off I'm just heartbroken and lied to OU FOR LIFE
could be wrong about the PI but when I watched that play in slo-mo it really looked like the WR was pulling that arm of the defender , but it think it is easily going the other way just how i looked at the body motion looked more like the WR trying to sale contact cause the DB really only moved his arms when he put his hands up in the air lol idk still was a great night of football