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@@mknote You mean from terrible to just bad? People keep making these comments after WG wrecks something and ‘not as bad as before’ is nowhere near as good as something the player base liked or tolerated. Subs trash what was a surface ship game, so slight adjustments are useless.
See, WG has definitely opened new horizons for G pressers. Pressing G while playing piano? Nah. Pressing G while relaxing with a woman? Also nah. Pressing G while countering a sub? HELL YEAH
everyone knows that cruisers are completely OP against subs and CVs - thats why there are so many of them in game. Perhaps that is why they introduced dds that are in fact cruisers - cunning game design
Still, my best death from subs was using Daring. Near the cap, prepare for kiting. Suddenly spotted by subs, hydro already On, I spotted the DD, using DC ubtil the very end, the torps was homing so close, there are no gap, knowing the homing was until 240m. Near 1 km, activate DCP and kiting away to dodge the no gap torp. Then got pinged again by subs, the torps were homing at the last moment and I died. 100% HP was gone. That sure was broken
Elbing torps are actually busted because you don’t expect them to be there. It’s like when a hospital in the US sends you a bill 12 months after your stay, you don’t expect it or think you dodged it or it was never launched and suddenly *-BLAM-* sunk just when you thought you were safe
WG: we noticed that you like pressing "G" on your keyboard, so want to give the chance to do it more! Everyone: So that was a fucking lie... Me: Only thing am "pressing" its uninstall...
For even more fun, i hear that WG will be introducing ICBMs into the game. Even more fun than CVs, players will need able to nuke other players on different maps!
@@droidmotorola3884 tried it, but it "magically" reapperead for some reason In all seriousness. The only thing that glued me to this "game", was my clan, nice and funny people, where you can make even a loss into a fun experience. Unfortunatly our Leader took a brake, so after that the only thing was to go into my German CVs and hunt Russian ships. And sometimes play some german BBs. But after my PC didnt worked anymore, I realized that its just feels great to not play it anymore. Like Im free.
Getting crosspinged on a DD by a sub-division is also very funny... had this a few times. In a DD: no chance... your repair Party is so fast over, and they just continue pinging you. Was very funny...
Id say that Elbing actually makes sense in what she was designed to be Is a scout cruiser, with good torps and punchy guns Nor a DD or a proper CL I am happy with the result
i have tried grinding to tier 10 because i thought it was gonna be so much fun but once i got to tier 7 in every line i just gave up the matchmaking hit me hard...
Fire/minute is pretty bad, the and the HE does no damage. You lose a ton of damage if you try to start a fire instead of shooting AP. You might just shoot a T10 BB for minutes and get no fires, and even if you get one, it might be DCP'd instantly. It is more or less worthless. The AP pen and angles are so good, you can get away with shooting it at everything anytime.
The soviets tested rocket assist on their post ww2 tanks to avoid getting stuck in mud. The next patch will have rocket assist russian subs to keep them from getting stuck in water.
I'm soooooo agree with yours stands... WOWs is not playable with 2 subs, 4 DDs, a CV in every game... neither from DD, sub, CV point of view in my opinion... needed a limit to their number in MM...
The whole German Anti-Cruiser DD line is trash. Just because Flamu can put lipstick on a pig and make it look good is evidence of Flamu's talent, not that the Elbing is good in the hands of the average WOWS Potatoes. German DD in general are the lease popular DDs in the game. I wonder why.....
I don't know dude, they seem fine to me. You just have to remember that they are not DDs but CLs with a smoke and without a citadel who take up a DD slot and you'll be fine.
Subs are getting changed, we'll see tomorrow how much they really will change. Ideally removed from randoms, but we know that's never happening.
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You see Flamu, you can go underwater like a Submarine too. The thing is you can only do it once a game though.
Flamu one question is it possible to show your ship skills what you use ?
The changes do at least look to be a step in the right direction.
@@mknote You mean from terrible to just bad? People keep making these comments after WG wrecks something and ‘not as bad as before’ is nowhere near as good as something the player base liked or tolerated. Subs trash what was a surface ship game, so slight adjustments are useless.
truly this is the absolute pinnacle of game design
you are joking right?
Pinnacle indeed, truly his name was “pricked down” on the list of the classes ‘who may not be harmed’.
See Flamu. Your biggest issue was the lack of any G pressing. Our spreadsheet shows us that pressing G is the greatest joy a man can experience.
See, WG has definitely opened new horizons for G pressers.
Pressing G while playing piano? Nah.
Pressing G while relaxing with a woman? Also nah.
Pressing G while countering a sub? HELL YEAH
everyone knows that cruisers are completely OP against subs and CVs - thats why there are so many of them in game. Perhaps that is why they introduced dds that are in fact cruisers - cunning game design
Still, my best death from subs was using Daring.
Near the cap, prepare for kiting.
Suddenly spotted by subs, hydro already On, I spotted the DD, using DC ubtil the very end, the torps was homing so close, there are no gap, knowing the homing was until 240m.
Near 1 km, activate DCP and kiting away to dodge the no gap torp.
Then got pinged again by subs, the torps were homing at the last moment and I died.
100% HP was gone.
That sure was broken
Been there. Beyond frustrating.
Elbing torps are actually busted because you don’t expect them to be there. It’s like when a hospital in the US sends you a bill 12 months after your stay, you don’t expect it or think you dodged it or it was never launched and suddenly *-BLAM-* sunk just when you thought you were safe
At the end Elbing wasn't that bad after all
u have to play more than 30 games to really know
Turns out buffing a ship makes it better, who knew. Also Elbing is still a shit DD, but a decent ship.
He never said it was gonna be bad, he said that it was going to be taking up a DD slot while not able to fulfill any DD role
@@alessiobubbles5345 Meanwhile pro Elbing players: Torpedoes go brrr!
Wargambling just showed you that you didn't buy enough lootboxes. Then you'd have won.
"Holy shit, what are those missiles?" *LMAO*
I fucking howled when the Halland torps went screaming by those sea mine torps of Elbing 🤣
when the sub uses the ping to mark you, it should be visible for anyone as well, since the ping gives away its position
Yup, it's definitely possible to have less fun playing the "fun and engaging" mechanics. If the spreadsheet wasn't full of shit, it would say so.
17:20 Spreadsheet is correct comrade. Flamu was simply experiencing "overfun"
Now, go to gulag.
When the spreadsheet tells you it's fun and engaging, it's fun and engaging. Therefore CV + 2 Subs is triple the fun.
"let's punish all the cruisers" hahahaha golden
lol, I love seeing the Halland Torps buzz by other torps...even if they are made of marshmallows....
This replay just showcased why I uninstalled the game...
same here
Thank God we have people standing together. I Uninstalled as well.
i uninstalled when they did the cv rework lol, how long ago was that? i can't remember.
i accidentally uninstalled recently but i havent reinstalled so what does that tell you...
I just set up a new OS. WoWs is the only game that didn't make it back in.
The goddam underwater and flying potatoes giving everyone the fun they so desperately needed...
WG: we noticed that you like pressing "G" on your keyboard, so want to give the chance to do it more!
Everyone: So that was a fucking lie...
Me: Only thing am "pressing" its uninstall...
But as he never got to hit G in this game, fun was not had! Had he hit G even once, it would have been a fungasm.
Sub spotting mechanics is so much fun
I just had an idea how about smoke penalty only applies when sub is surfaced
@@seeskabel4561 or remove it like they should do with cv's
For even more fun, i hear that WG will be introducing ICBMs into the game. Even more fun than CVs, players will need able to nuke other players on different maps!
There cruiser is right there, in the 7th slot on the left side team
16:37 someone save Flamu, he's having too much fun!
Yeah - That's why I like F.Schultz. You get that t9 CV and Sub MM sweetspot 👌
I also enjoyed that level of fun 2 days ago when I was playing Stalingrad. 🤐
My personal favorite joke are Light Cruisers with depth charges instead of ASW planes.
The only way to kill subs with DG CL is to maneuver aggressively and hope you can ram it… So much fun.
Good thing about having a not working PC:
I cant play WoWs
Have you considered uninstalling? It worked for me
@@droidmotorola3884 tried it, but it "magically" reapperead for some reason
In all seriousness. The only thing that glued me to this "game", was my clan, nice and funny people, where you can make even a loss into a fun experience. Unfortunatly our Leader took a brake, so after that the only thing was to go into my German CVs and hunt Russian ships. And sometimes play some german BBs. But after my PC didnt worked anymore, I realized that its just feels great to not play it anymore. Like Im free.
@@VeteranMercer3426 that's not very healthy but I I respect that. My clan required me to log in often or they'd kick you out.
They kicked me out.
@@droidmotorola3884 yikes
FUN AND ENGAGING!
I've got so many curved torps subs and the not OP cvs in the same battle... so much fun man.
Getting crosspinged on a DD by a sub-division is also very funny... had this a few times. In a DD: no chance... your repair Party is so fast over, and they just continue pinging you. Was very funny...
Overmatch everywhere. Similar concealment to battleships. Perma spotted by CV. Subs. Strange that there are so few cruisers left.
Ngl, that cross torp at 16:52 was pretty sick
Holy cow! The friendly carrier died to fire damage! Is there an achievement for that? Is it even legal?!
its literally cruiser in disguise
Id say that Elbing actually makes sense in what she was designed to be Is a scout cruiser, with good torps and punchy guns Nor a DD or a proper CL I am happy with the result
Sub left ,cv right...they call it the fun Sandwich
Oh boy those cruisers really got their punishment!
I am looking forward to this.
i have tried grinding to tier 10 because i thought it was gonna be so much fun but once i got to tier 7 in every line i just gave up the matchmaking hit me hard...
That is some hellish MM
If I play that position on the NA server, battleships and cruisers will hideout at A like a bunch of scared kittens huddled together.
Spreadsheet says it was loads of fun!
Elbing's great. Been trying range mod on it for a laugh and it's decent, but, reload is probably better.
You are the Cruiser !
I LOVE PRESSING G
No cruisers?
Legends: First time?
Just checked the spreadsheet and switching games is almost as fun and engaging as subs and carriers. _Almost_
On the otherside i had a game earlier today with only 1 BB and 2 subs on each side, very odd MM WG has
Matchmaking at its best.
Flamu having fun? What world is this?😆
Are the HE so worthless even for setting fires? With that accuracy you can snipe the bow and stern
The HE on Elbing is terrible
Fire/minute is pretty bad, the and the HE does no damage. You lose a ton of damage if you try to start a fire instead of shooting AP. You might just shoot a T10 BB for minutes and get no fires, and even if you get one, it might be DCP'd instantly. It is more or less worthless. The AP pen and angles are so good, you can get away with shooting it at everything anytime.
In this state of the game, is Kleber worth grinding for, i am up to T-8 and would like to know is it worth my time?
Its a good line fast ships no smoke there not bad stats say there doing ok I can see why just get everything just take your time.
It's so fun listening to Flamu bitch about his game at 250K damage.
CV players have to know that nobody but them and WH likes them. They gotta know.
*sees title* "huh? flamu and fun?" *sees the team composition* Well I can't say I'm surprised
i really liked the part where you were punished for doing anything that wasnt camping island or back of map kiting
why does he click 20 times for every salvo?
Heyy Flamu. Can u pls make a video on all of your graphical settings ? Would be much appreciated. Love ur vids, have great day :)
Cruisers be like: fk this sh*t, im out
Wargaming should trademark the word "Fun" since they seem to be the authority on it.
i mean yeah 250k damage game must be indeed fun huh
I thought i lagged hard
The soviets tested rocket assist on their post ww2 tanks to avoid getting stuck in mud. The next patch will have rocket assist russian subs to keep them from getting stuck in water.
Hey I’ve seen this one before :)
So what you were saying there mate is that Wargambling sold you a solution to the problem you didn't have? :P
Elbing... what Spanish people call microsoft's search engine.
Don't you feel happy to be blessed with the opportunity to fight things that you cannot shoot back at? How dare you! Utterly, ridiculous.
As long, as they are keeping Subs and CVs in the game, I will never touch that game again...too much fun for me.
...great game and vid, as always.
I think you overestimate kleber vs elbing a little bit
Should have used the captain skills designed to counter subs. Smh
Ohh? Did you say Elbing is Fun?
WG: Needs a nerf, too fun
No cruisers = no fooking radar m8
But no advantage for elbing sadly :D
Yeah, and now try having all that fun while being uptiered +2 :)
Double fun police greate game tw
i saw 2 players in arms race by the name jasper and tucmort with gull health ships when i see that i react with reporting all of their team mates.
should be one cv or sub, never both and never more than one
So much AP damage and not citadel.. seems like a better version of british CL :D
The voice sounds like Flamu again, but all I hear is MalteseKnight...
… we all know what happens when Flamu enjoys ships right?
Elbing has already been released for some time now. So really doubt she would get a massive nerf anytime soon... Only works when it is pre-release
@@Dcarp7 you must be new here.
@@77arceus Not really. Lol. 🤣
y u no dodge?!?
Mandatory youtube engagement comment.
I wonder how effective was cross dropping torpedos in 1945 where AA wasn’t so utterly garbage
Come on Flamu they all bum rushed to get you out of that match
Lol at no cruiser... at all.....
State of the game.
'Just use damagecon' is new 'Just dodge'
I'm soooooo agree with yours stands... WOWs is not playable with 2 subs, 4 DDs, a CV in every game... neither from DD, sub, CV point of view in my opinion... needed a limit to their number in MM...
Well, it's your own fault for not pressing the fun key, "G".
Reminds me of yester year when I would fight a bunch of CVs try then put def aa on and get no cvs take it off ang get cvs again. Mm is a hater.
POV: Elbing players in ranked
Captian negativity
Wow this was fun. So much fun that I uninstalled the game years ago.
And still there :D
Change name to Cruiser Researcher
Noice
Flamu you kinda seem burnt out.
I can't say what I really wanna say...
So let's just re-skin Atari Combat and add multi-player. Jingles can head the art department.
thx for showing me again what a piece of crap they've turned this game into 👍
Bro, what's unfun about a ship you cannot spot and cannot counter? The spreadsheet says those are the best...
The whole German Anti-Cruiser DD line is trash. Just because Flamu can put lipstick on a pig and make it look good is evidence of Flamu's talent, not that the Elbing is good in the hands of the average WOWS Potatoes. German DD in general are the lease popular DDs in the game. I wonder why.....
I don't know dude, they seem fine to me. You just have to remember that they are not DDs but CLs with a smoke and without a citadel who take up a DD slot and you'll be fine.
u mus be wrong cause wargaming says that destroyer are the COUNTERPLAY against subs and cv's
No fun allowed esp. if being flamu in german ships. Wg algorythm see this, then no cruiser in mm, put full subs and cv... ;)