Xbox, you broke my heart | Elite Series 2 CORE review
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Now in white and coming at a more affordable price point, the new Xbox Elite Series 2 Core controller is more of the same for reliability. So, what are the "re-engineered components?"
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1:17 Overview
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Everytime my elite 2 has an issue, i just buy a new one and return it with the broken one inside….ive done this 5 times and twice for friends
genius
Is there anything else you do. All you just really put in back in the package and they don’t notice anything.
@@almightysaber5426 do it at target where the employee really doesn’t care to check the serial number
done that so many times🤣
I’m sure there’s a lot of people that do that but to openly admit it on a public platform is still pretty stupid. Unlikely anything will come of it but still a possibility.
Considering what we can build in this day and age technology wise it's crazy a simple sturdy and reliable controller is so challenging...
The problem is that if they make good controllers people will only have to buy one, they can easily 5x their income from controller sales by just engineering slight flaws. And considering these pro controllers are practically half the price of the console, that's a lot of money to leave on the table
@@kwoni3337 exactly apple does the same thing now every time they make a new product they design them so that the older models become less and less efficient with every update
Designed to fail. Every corporation has followed the light bulb industry. I was looking to get an elite controller. Black Friday MS store is offering $8 off and elite 2. Greed heads. I'm now going to best buy to buy a standard Xbox controller for $39. The one that came with my Xbox already has stick drift. Buttons also stick. I kinda wish I got the PS5. I had no idea how bad MS was still
@@natas12rm don't worry, the PS5 controllers get wayyyy worse drift. All these companies suck!
@@ILLTURI yeah but in my dualsense drift is only one problem on xsx controller i have drift, rb register second click and have weird feeling when push 2 days ago x button feels like after push be bloc foe sec than go back to position.
I honestly didn't expect the quality to be better. That's just marketing BS to push more units out the door
Totally agree
Fax, if they wanted to improve quality they would use more reliable parts
As soon as I saw you could buy one for a cheaper price without the "accessories" I knew it was a color swap money grab.
the absence of Hall effect joysticks certainly invites skepticism
They are much higher quality than a scuff and with a year warranty or 4 years for an Xtra $15. GL getting that from scuff.
I was casually watching your video on the TV in the living room when I heard my channel name lol. Thanks for the shout out, fantastic video as always, love your channel!
Ha, that’s great! Thank you for doing the hard work 🍻
Love the honest review, very helpful! Thank you
face button response is an issue for me on regular elite 2, seems like the most common flaw and I can't believe this has not been addressed still
I got sick and tired of returning my Elite 2 under warranty, only for Microsoft to give me a refurb with as many problems as the last unit or worse... I went from non-working LB only, to non-working LB/RB/B, etc. Until my current refurb had the entire left stick get dislocated too... can't even rely on paddles to work around such an issue.
If they don't get a class action lawsuit for the existing Elite 2s, I hope they at least get one for deceptive marketing of "improved reliability" on the Elite Core
Damn. These issues are so strange. Why let them persist for years?
I have an Elte Series 2 Core coming today. Until now, I have resisted, but the price was really low. I'll test it out 🤞and keep it as a backup to my trusty yet aged Elite Series 1.
Great Review, I see rumours of the Elite Series 3 coming soon, this looks like a way for Microsoft to run down spare controller parts until then. I've just sent back my 2nd Elite 2 for replacement due to right thumb-stick grinding & tension broken issue.
On my second Series 2. The first I had for about 9 months and sent it in for stick drift on both sticks. It's been a year on the second controller and the left bumper only works when firmly pressing it. Every now and then I'll get a miss click on the paddles and face buttons but so far not a sign of stick drift. I guess it's a lottery if you can get both good working buttons and non-drifting sticks. Hopefully they'll make a Elite Series 3 soon and the best outcome is that they put hall-effect thumb sticks and fix the buttons. Sticks that don't wear out and buttons that work, sign me up because it would be perfect and it'll be the last controller I buy... and that is exactly why they won't do it.
I'd be willing to pick up the new version of the Elite Series 2 if it doesn't have all the issues that I've had with my current one (my second one), but by all accounts the CORE has the same issues with stick drift, face buttons, bumpers. Since my warranty ran out on my replacement despite Microsoft's extension, I decided to pry open my controller to fix the damnable right bumper's random lack of response, and a little cleaning of the inside bumper switch with some alcohol did the trick (via CZcams videos), at the cost of only some minor cosmetic marring where I pried open the faceplate, and one of the inner clasps that locks the faceplate onto the body broke off (my carelessness).
But I shouldn't have had to return my first Elite Series 2 controller or do minor surgery on my second, for something that cost more than half the cost of my Series X. :P
That white and black colour scheme does look amazing (provided the white part doesn't get dirty).
I do actually much prefer the Elite Series 2 controller to the original Xbox One controller or even the one that comes with the Series X (I can't speak to the original Elite controller since I never got one) but I definitely recommend getting an extended warranty.
Which controller is the most consistent and well build in your opinion?
Build cheap, and they will keep coming. They learned from the past, if you build good, it will last. No longer about brand, reputation and reliability but is all about the money.
It's so sad, because they are indeed close to perfection. I've had so many V2's now and had the luck that the store kept giving me a new one. Rubber grips letting loose, LB/RB buttons not responding unless you press it way too hard, and now my two months old V2 has sticky X button and pops out after a few seconds. Super annoying. It was a little promising when they said "we hear you." but then it turns out to be BS. Disappointing.
Elite series 1 - bulletproof for 10 months till I upgraded to s2
Elite series 2 - 4 faulty units over 2 years, every time bumper issues
Elite series 2 core - 2 weeks in, still ok…
@@iamjimfromwithin they were gonna make the black ones with the improvements too, weren't they? Last week I traded mine in for the sticky X button. How can I see if the one I have now is the 2022 one?
Sounds like you may need to clean your controller or stop eating and gaming at the same time.
@@AeonsOfBlight I do the first and I don't do the second. Also keep in mind that this is happening to a brand new one. I've probably just been unlocky. I decided to stick with this one for now and the buttons stopped getting stuck. I honestly think the button gets stuck behind the socket, it's not sticky.
@@bigkabuto nah fam I had the same thing ur describing it is just cuz you eating while planning and not wipin ur damn hands on a napkin
Hello, I saw your video about the Xbox Elite 2 and GameSir G7 SE controllers. During the Circularity Test, there's a significant difference between the controllers. Is this noticeable when playing FPS games, or not that much? I'm unsure whether to buy a controller with better sticks or with more customization. Thank you in advance for your response
Thanks 9to5 toys for the update on controller I was wondering if it was the same and what keyboard is that your using in this video?
I used to have the Elite 1 and it lasted but the rubber grips came off after 2 years of use. As for the Elite 2 I bought 2 controllers and both are working fine without problems with at least a year of use. My location is the Philippines if that info helps for purchasing since some batches are bad or really good.
Just a heads up, my black elite 2 I’ve used literally an hour or 2 everyday since December 2021 and it’s still working like a charm! Sucks the QC isn’t better across the board. I just bought the white core just for the hell of it. Awesome color variation
consider yourself lucky, I take good care of my controller and I've also had it since December 2021. The left bumper sometimes completely doesn't register with medium-hard force, and now the adhesive for the faceplate grip is coming off... not to mention day 1 of owning the controller, I noticed that the D-pad isn't level. I hope I can get a good price on a new faceplate, I really hope that they fix the QC issues because it's literally insane
@@meepcheep314Had mine for two years about now, but the left bumper failed on me within the first year, works approximately 1/3rd of the time, seriously considering RMAing it just to see if they’ll take it at this point, since it seems to be a manufacturing flaw.
@@SS-ARYAN If it's still working you can try opening it up and dripping some isopropyl alcohol over the bumper switch. My LB was not super reliable but I got it fixed this way.
@@momoware I ended up fixing it about 3 weeks ago actually, yes the isopropyl method worked immediately somehow, not sure how. I decided to blast both bumpers with WD-40 after as well, and hadn't had any issues since. I do have a few knife scuffs at the bottom of the controller from prying it open, but I really could not care less about it now.
I’ve literally had 3 different elite series 2 controllers (black, halo and this core) plus the elite controller 1….my issues have been with left stick drift but ESPECIALLY the Rb and Lb buttons not reliably working(I remapped inputs to the back paddles and it’s fine but I shouldn’t have to do that)…I’m going to wait for series 3 and hope they fix the issues (tired of the warranty loop)
Yes the LB RB Is fixed on this controller for however long I’ve had it
I just picked one up and what I've noticed (at least on PC) is that through the Accessories app, the controller will not save the brightness of the logo. Anyone else having/had this issue?
i had mine for about a year and a half before the rubberized grips started peeling off. 6 months later it was so bad that a lot of the internal structure of the handles began to crack and break. the only way i could play with it is to wrap both handles in a lot of electrical tape, but the plastic on the inside is so flimsy that it began to crack and crumble, and i dont grip the controller hard or squeeze it. so the elite series 2 lasted about 2 years before it was way too broken to play with, although i never developed any stick drift so thats a plus. so I bought a turtle beach recon controller to replace it. no rubberized grip that would eventually peel off and im very happy with it
I’ve had mine for 2 years now and all it has is some wear on the side grips and I play everyday for hours easily you need to chill out on your controller lmfao
I have the old white elite controller and basically totaled all the grips came off the left stick doesn't work properly but I still have all the accessories will they work on the new core controller
If I have an Elite Series 2 already which is starting to wear out, will its accessories be compatible with the Core?
It would have been useful if this review included recommended (and cheaper) Xbox controller alternatives, given that it's not worth shelling out between $130-200 for the faulty "elite" series. Any recommendations for more reliable wireless alternatives?
They have the regular xbox controller. Did you want him to recommend a color or something? Walmart has a cheap Xbox controller but it's not as good as the Microsoft brand. Not much else to recommend if you want cheaper.
My Elite 2 was solid for about two years. Best feeling controller I've ever used. My issues with the controller are: top left back paddle button broke, hair trigger nub broke off and most recently the left trigger vibration is stuck at full vibration and is no longer adjustable (which doesn't sound bad but trust me it makes the controller extremely undesirable to use). After much troubleshooting, the only option is to go zero vibration for the entire controller. With all that said, I do take very great care of all my electronics and it still broke down under casual use. If they release an Elite 3, I will buy it because the Elite 2 was so great to use even with the unfortunate short lifespan but a bump in durability is a must.
Would the sticks and back paddles from the OG Elite 1 fit this? If so I wouldn’t need the kit right?
How did you get the Xbox button to change colors? I just got the white one after my black one’s RB stopped working. The new one just lights up white.
It’s been a year, how’s it holding up? My elite 2 is having A button issues and I’m looking at the core since I have all the accessories
I bought a blue elite series 2 and it doesn’t have vibration in the triggers… like wtf did I just pay a premium amount for something that was supposed to be only without accessories?
Do the old accessories on the other controller work on this could i just transfer paddles over?
Soooo, if the series 1 is cheaper at my local store should I get it over the version 2 with extra components bundle?
My elite 1 had text grip issues, my elite 2 had LB issues and R analog drift, sent it in under factory warranty and it came back fix with no problems since.
I’ve never had an issue with stick drift but with my first elit 2 one of the rear paddle buttons lost its click and didn’t respond as well as normal then with the second one the battery stopped charging. With the one year manufacturers warranty plus I got an extra in store 2yr warranty for $20 so I havnt had to pay for the second and now 3rd controller so I can’t complain. Straight swap, no repairs.
Where did u buy the controller from?
@@Itzdaydaybtw jb hifi, Australia
I'd more interest to know if this controller has any drifting issues, I've had an original xbox controller for over a year and its started drifting recently
great can we get the rest of the buttons to light up ms?
When you warranty a controller, you don’t get a new one. You get a refurbished one. I got a series 2 early when they came out. Returned under warranty 3 times within the warranty period. First had A button not register consistently and left stick drift. Second had left bumper stop registering. Third had right bumper stop registering.
After warranty they offer to sell you a controller replacement at reduced price (I think it was US 79). I did and that controller now has right bumper issues.
I am just one example but my friend has had very similar experiences with his, going through 2-3 under warranty and then just buying a new one. The new one hasn’t had trouble so far (6 mo).
My Elite series 1 controller has an issue with the left analog stick. The dome feels like it wants to fall out of the controller.
Since I currently own an Xbox One Model 1697 Controller (from over 6 years ago), I was wondering if I should finally upgrade to the Series 2 Elite.
I always have issues with the A button registering double presses. No stick drift yet from my Series X controller. My RT button is worn out tho lol no more texture
Hello
What is the difference between the Material of R1 L1 keys? It seams in Elite2 is metal and in elite core is plastic!
Does this controller have the same response acceleration as PS5 when your playing any racing games . Or is it better ?
I got my elite v2 two wheeks now i love it great controller wheels so premium compared to normal x/s and dualsense .is the corr same materjal body as normal v2 ?
You gonna come back in a month or 2 complaining watch I’m calling it
Random question , would changing the front shell void my warranty ? On the core or elite series 2
It's likely
Damn, one of the worst parts of those issues is that (maybe just for me) the controller appearance is outstanding! I'd like so much to buy it because it'd match my XSS perfectly, but since I'm looking for a controller to play fighting games, issues like the ones presented (and confirmed in the comments section) will definitively make the experience trash. The truly worst part (and it's for every third world person) is the price. It costs 130 dollars in Xbox's official American website, but here in Brazil it can cost almost 300 dollars (yeah).
If you're looking for an xbox controller for fighting games the normal xbox series controller is really good for motion inputs but if you want something better than that you could get a hitbox or fightstick however I prefer pad
I prefer the default controllers any day combined with using your hands in a claw grip. This way you can play anywhere on anyone's controllers using buttons and sticks simultaneously.
@@iaqh 🤓
@@iaqh Are you really that ignorant? Do you know what Brazil is? Have you ever been here? It seems like you don't know what you're talking about. Should have paid attention in school when they were teaching that different governments have ridiculously high taxes and that makes some products almost triple the price. Sometimes it comes to a point that is cheaper to travel to the USA, buy the product and travel back.
I don’t know if I should get the elite 2 not the core one anymore because I seen a lot of people talking bad about it. Does anyone know the chance of getting these issues then any other pro controller? I have not had a Xbox before and 3 months of having one. So if you know something that could help please tell me.
Can I use the paddles from the elite controller 1 with the elite controller series 2 and the core controller?
I've purchased 3 Elite controllers. Initially, the Elite 1 which developed massive stick drift, an LB response problem and the grip peeled off. I then bought an Elite 2 for myself and an additional one for my son; thinking that perhaps they worked the issues out. Well, the grip is still intact on both controllers, no drift either, but they each developed a bumper response problems...and mine also developed a paddle response issue as well....also the "nibs" on the back switches (which adjusts the trigger levels) all fell off, leaving sharp points for switches. The bumper problem can be managed by mapping it to one of the paddles, though we shouldn't have to do this.
They are great controllers, overall, but I could not endorse them based on their quality issues, as they seem almost disposable. At their price-point, they should far outlast a conventional controller, but they don't seem to
I'm onto my 7th Elite Series 2, thank god for warranty replacements. Real shame after having 0 issues with the Elite Series 1. You'd think paying a premium means you get a premium product but not in this case apparently.
I like the accessory pack because now you can get replacement parts and or just extra parts for the elite 2, I’m picking it up so I can have 2 tall sticks and also better customization with more paddle variation
Just buy tall sticks on ebay, what’s the point of overpaying for some thumb sticks?
I HAVE A bigger PROBLEM i have windows 11 and when i click A xbox bar is opening and when i click B there is screenshot
Anyone know how to adjust the D-Pad? Mine sits crooked with the right side raised ~1/8"
has the core still the rubber finish like the black elite 2 ?
Ive bought 2 different elite controller this year and im pissed at how ass they are. Got the black one about 10 months ago all the buttons stopped working last week so i stepped out to gamestop and got the new elite series 2 core (since i had the paddles already) i shit you not 4 days after i bought it i had the same exact problem. A,B,X,Y do not work pairing button is hit or miss and the power light doesnt turn on when the controller is on. Anyone know another controller with good paddles?
my elite series 2 black editions l1 and r1 button are not tht responsive so i have to put them on paddles nd dont use them anymore if there is a way to fix it tell me.
So to use this controller to its full potential you need to buy the accessory pack so what's the point of buying this controller might as well buy the black version that comes with everything you need right?
Still no Haptic feedback or Adaptable triggers?
So I've played claw almost my whole life, would you say that getting a Pro Controller is worth it in that instance, or does it just help people get on par with playing claw/using a mouse?
I'm having audio issues. Cracking and cut out . I suspect it's the core II controller , but im not 100% sure yet , but it does have stick drift and sometimes it disconnects randomly. I have had it for about 6 months and I'm about to return it for a new one sence they gave it a year warranty.
Does the accessory pack come with the controller?
Mine showed white but was black and missing buttons and had a normal d pad? I was confused
My elite series 2 after 6 months got bad stick drift on the left joy stick. Then my right bumper wasnt responding every time I clicked it I had to really push done on it hard. It was super annoying and really affecting my gameplay. I just picked up the core since I already have the accessories and honestly i like it more. I like the rubber grips and after a month it’s been great and I bought the Walmart Protection Plan so if the stick drift comes back I can swap it out for a new one
The regular elite series 2 controller used to be 159 on Microsoft now it’s 180 again?
I find the paddles on the Series 2 to feel much better than on the original Elite. One thing I found though is that mushy feeling is somewhat due to the paddles themselves. Swapping Series 2 paddles over to the OG Elite definitely feels better. The X/Y paddles though still don't feel as good as they do with the Elite Series 2 though. Nonetheless I did pick up an S2 paddle set (be careful, a lot of the advertised S2 paddles are clearly S1 versions) for my OG controller and it does make it feel a lot better. They clean up a lot of that sloppiness which I think comes down to the larger nubs on the S2 paddles, it tightens up the sloppy feeling. Not to mention I like that they're shorter too, it's fixed my issue with accidentally reloading or changing weapons. Those X/Y paddles are too long on the OG Elite, so well worth the $10 IMHO...
Which ones did u buy
My triggers act up when set to the shortest pull and deadZone set between 0-5. Tested other deadZones and ended up having to go to medium pull on left trigger with a deadZone of 10. Not idle for FPS so I’m going to exchange it this week
A and B button 3 of fhe 5 times i press them, they dont register.
Does anyone know now to fix the Fusion pro wireless PS4 controller
Can I use my accessories from the original elite?
Mine problem is with my right stick I use it for crouch in most games and it doesn’t work half the time
My y and x buttons randomly got stuck and there was nothing spilled on the controller.
If you already have the accessories for the Elite Series 2 accessories can you use the swappable thumb sticks? My elite series 2 is on the fritz-keeps disconnecting, freezing, etc. so I’m wondering if I could just get the core and use all the other accessories I already have with it
Yes
Ive had four elite series 2 controllers within a year thanks to warranty ( one brand new and three refurbished from MS) , there is always an issue with a button or stick. They are not reliable whatsover. Will it be the same with the core? Should i gamble my money again just to use my warranty all year round to replace them? Disappointing and money down the drain
I had 2 withing 3 days and bot had our of box stick drift brand new, so I ordered the core design labs made my own and I know they have to hand build and test it before sending it out so hopefully it's great
Will the elite series 2 accessories work on the core ?
Did they unlock the polling rate so you can overclock to 1ms?
So the reason I bought the elite series core was because I had bought the elite series 2 and never had a single issue but unfortunately it suffered irreversible water damage. Obviously all of the back paddles and joy sticks are fine. I guess I'm confused about one thing though. Is he saying that the buttons on the core seemingly worse than just the regular elite series 2?
I wanted to love this controller the series 2 but my bumper broke on my first one so I sent it back, they sent me a refurbished model and two months in another bumper is failing. It is so frustrating that this happens and I couldn’t even get a year out of a so called “elite” controller! Unbelievable
my issue with this controller is the slightly bigger feel, and the R3/L3, theres little to no feeling when activating while the joystick is pushed in any direction
Thx for the honest review. I'll stick with the regular wireless Xbox controller. I got it used for 18 bucks. The A button is a bit mushy cos I brought it used. It seem we're both in the same boat with the A button not registering 😢
The left bumper on my Elite Series 2 wasn’t always registering. Luckily it happened 2 weeks before my warranty expired. They didn’t send me a new one, just fixed it. It does work like it should now, but it came back with little pry marks on top everywhere, dirty, and the crease wasn’t complete flush on the left side of the controller anymore. I sent them a pristine controller, just to receive a properly working beat up one. Whatever…😪
Does the Old Elite Paddles fit in the new one ?
If I have a dead elite 2, can I get one of these and use my old paddles on it??
I personally haven't had any issues aside from when I place my controller down on my leg in between games the paddles zap me..
I’m hesitant about buying one because I feel like my fingers would be too long for the paddles could someone confirm or deny this
I have had my elite 2 from day one release no issues at all I play competitive fps games. My brother played hockey and they would last a year or so.
Is the elite series 2 the same as the core? Just the color different?
can vouch for quality control issues on this controller. came with a scuff on the "b" letter of "xbox" even though it was brand new out of the box and the left analog stick doesn't press down if you position it a certain way
Can I use razer Xbox charger with the elite 2?
I have 3rd party paddles and it’s majorly unresponsive plus the bottom paddles and way to big, does anyone have these problems with the accessory pack paddles don’t want to pay 50-60 for the same problem (when I click the actual paddle buttons without the paddles they’re way more responsive plus way more clickly lol)
Just got this and have severe drift on my left analog very disappointed as 2 of my elite series 2 rb buttons have gone bad and slight drift in 1 its 2022 make a good product for once
I have the exact same issue with my "A" button on my Elite series V2. It just doesn't register every input. I'd say it's like 80% at best.
I took it apart to see the inside as well and it’s the same the paddles and buttons and made the same when it comes to the inside. The paddles are a flaw design in my opinion, the angle and the way you press on the paddles will wear out where the paddle holder. On top of that if your paddles no longer work it will also be the small button that you press down with the paddle will wear and lose its shape. These parts are the exact same from the black series 2 no change on the paddles were ever made and the bumpers will stop working to
i love my elite controller. i'm on my 3rd one though...first one had major stick drift, 2nd one the left bumper would intermittently work.
They should be magnetic I guess but screw on to tighten them up would be nice and still a fast way to swap the parts out!
My elite series 2 controller doesn’t work via Bluetooth on my PC. Everything is up to date. Anybody know the reason??? Sucks having to be pay 24/7 with a wire connected to my $200 wireless controller 🙃
Do original elite controller paddles work
If everyone wants to know if they fixed the LB RB not responding it is fixed in this controller I really recommend if you have had the previous ones and need a replacement it is very good
Hello, is this a way for Microsoft too say that the regular controller is not a good controller? Is it more durable than the base than ..I mean the stick-base wares out the most . It cost 3 times more
just picked up a core in a blue colorway, it looks awesome and feels great so far. best part is my paddles from the series 1 still fit so no need for me to buy the bundle
Everyone keeps saying the core and regular are the same but the core doesnt come with extra options for the options, like the paddles you have to buy, you have to buy seperate dpads, and the carrying case isnt included so you need to soend $50 on the customization pack anyway to get the extra components that seperate them, you get all the same features but extra parts arent included with the core
I've been looking into buying one. Are the button issues only on the core, or the series 2 also?
Core is the same controller
My grip is so big on this controller I can only use 2 back paddles and I use the small ones. I wish the controller was just a little bit bigger in my hands.
Havnt had any issues so far, i even opened it to put different buttons n trigger. Almost messed up the wire opening it lol.