Novix Outdoors - Echo tree stand review
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- Novix Outdoors - Echo tree stand review
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In this weeks video I look at the new company Novix outdoors as well as the new tree stand to hit the market the ECHO. I look at the new for 2020 ECHO tree stand as well as give my thoughts on the new company.
See the specs below taken from Novix web page.
The benchmark by which all other hang on treestands are measured
Lightweight, roomy, deadly quiet, and easy to use;
Fits trees 4" - 22" in diameter
Features a convenient self-leveling seat and platform
The large, contoured foam pad gives all-day seating comfort
Weighs just 11.5 pounds and has a 350-pound weight rating
platform dimensions - 30"x 19.5"
Its definitely a stand I will add to my arsenal and im really looking forward to using it on all day sits! Thanks for watching - Polack
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I just ordered one of these stands! I can't wait to get it and try it out! Great video man!!
Thanks bud! I love mine. Great quality hunted out of mine last year for gun season!!
love your no BS reviews!
I appreciate that!! 🙏
Great review brother. Gotta have more tools in the Arsenal. Having a passion like you do for deer hunting is what life is all about.🦌
Thank you! As you as well with the firearms!
Great job on the review. That is a great stand. I have the Assault as well and it has been a go to for years. Keep up the good work guy!!
Thanks man! I appreciate that
Great Review sir! Bought the stand last night at the last minute. Didn’t know anything about them and was looking for information. Thanks for the information
Thanks for watching! 🤙🤙
I really like your reviews. Good work.
Thank you bud! I really appreciate that. I try to be honest and help people decide if the product is good for them. I look at many reviews before I purchase anything these days!!!
Dude! Great review! I hunted from Lone Wolf stands when I was younger. For only half a pound I can’t see why someone wouldn’t want the larger platform. I had a couple of the old Lone wolfs with the narrow back like the Assault 2, and IMO, if the tree is so tight the larger platform won’t fit, you can very well risk hitting a limb with your top bow limb. Anyhow, I got sick of wrestling with getting my Millennium camlock receivers in exactly the right spot, and then wrestling the stand back out of them at the end of a hunt. The Millennium seats are super comfy, but I’m done with them. So I’m trying to decide between this Novix and the Chippewa Wedge-loc. Looks like the Chippewa seat is more comfortable and you can stand tight to the tree without cable restriction, but the Novix is lighter and would fit more trees with the offset bracket system. Only thing I really didn’t like about my Lone Wolfs was the seat if I remember. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for the video.
My favorite stand is the Lone wolf assault 2. Definitely small and light enough to go anywhere. I think its the best overall value for size, price, weight.
I plan to use my Novix for gun season where I tend to hunt all day sits and the extra room should be nice. Im not familiar with the wedge lock stand, sorry. Also Hunt comfort seat mod is supposed to be real nice cause the stock Lone wolf seats suck.
Also if money is no option u could look at lone wolf custom gear. Thanks for the kind comment on the video. I appreciate that.
Nice review have a great weekend.
Thank you!
Nice review man!! Loved the brolls looked very nice
Thanks 🤙🤙
Good review, I’d never heard of this company until now and it’s exciting to see what they will come up with for the future... I’ll be pushing a few of my friends in this direction. Thanks
You and me both! Im excited for them as well!!
Great video man keep em coming!!
Thank you! I will!
Fantastic job on the review. I was searching for a new stand and did a lot of research. Your videos were super helpful and ultimately I got this same stand after your review. I think the stand is really nice. I give it a 4 out of 5 stars. Only thing lacking is the seat comfort. The seat on this thing is like a thin slab of concrete. Not comfy at all! Thanks again.
Thanks I appreciate that! I took a garden knee mat and cut another seat out for more padding it helped so much and also makes the seat higher so its a more comfortable leg angle too.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Great tip. I'll do that for sure.
Just ordered most quiet stands I have ever used
It really is an awesome stand!! I love mine
I’m guessing there isn’t a company that makes a hang on stand that will support someone comfortably that is 6ft 7in and 335 without them thinking something could break at any moment?
I asked Novix if the Lone Wolf foot rest will work in the accessory holes and they said yes. So if you want foot rests now you can order the Lone Wolf ones or wait to see if Novix comes out with some.
Well thats sweet! I didn't even know lone wolf sold foot rests! Thanks
Do you know if ya can use the stick quiver on this stand
@@shanksoutdoorsunlimited7973 im sorry no i don't, ill just bungee my sticks on. Send them a message on Facebook or Instagram, they are very responsive.
Great review, wondering if I can use my Xop j hooks to attach my X2 mini sticks to the back of the echo platform
Im sure they would work if they are long enough
Just can't go to a pull strap and feel good about that supporting my weight. Gone with the hawk helium ultra light myself this year with a rachet and the climbing sticks.
I feel ya! Takes some trust lol
Another great video.thanks for the info never heard of them till now. And I think the holes in the back are for a climbing stand look at your lone wolf assault have same holes, the lone wolf climbing stand assult uses these holes for hardware on the tree strap assuming do it to all at manufacturer to be more versatile. Again another great review keep up good work and go USA
Ahhh, that makes sense! Thanks for the support 🙏
The instructions that came with mine said not to cam it.
Great review. T think Next stand will be under 10lbs run and gun. Watching this company. Hope they make saddle platform's
Oh yeah its gonna be sub 10 for sure! They did make a saddle platform, look up Trophy line its called the mission platform. It looks sick!
Look up whitetail kings on CZcams he did a review
I am glad I switch to a tree saddle never going back tree stands. Once you try tree saddle you never go back LOL
@@kidneystones3406 Id be about trying one but it seems real expensive to get in the game.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I am on a budget to I have 3 kids . The tree saddles they have now are a 100% they 20yrs ago or even 5yes ago.
1 the weight 6lbs compared climbing tree stand 18lbs
2) safety you can hang upside down not lying CZcams video.
3) I use one stick climbing method I am getting a mini beast stick that weighs less than 2lbs with a ridge runner platform 3lbs. I can walk with my tree saddle on me into the woods. Plus I plan on carrying a gullies suite that weighs 2lbs.
You can hunt slanted tree's and trees with branches. The list goes on and on. Thier is a down side you do have to practice your climbing methods and learn how to shoot from a tree saddle . It might take few weeks of practice to get good with it but it's not brain surgery.
Excellent review video buddy! That looks like an excellent stand and the sale price is hard to beat.
Thanks, and yeah probably why I jumped all over it!!
They should make a saddle hunting platform.
They did, it was just released. Its called the mission but its being sold under trophy line website.
Ordered my echo last night and am very excited.hopefully it comes in two days.it would be here tomorrow afternoon.thanks for the review.do you know if you can use the stick quiver from lone wolf on these stands ?that would be awesome
I saw someone online say u can use the stick quiver but if it was me Id send them a message on Facebook or Instagram.
Got this stand last year, seems decent enough, but the seat cushion could be better.
I agree, the seat cushion kinda sucks. I replaced mine with a thick foam pad.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I bought the XOP seat cushion...see how that does next season.
Hopefully it works out for you!
My Lone Wolf Alpha weighs 11.5 lbs. same as yours there. Looks almost exactly the same.
When did u get yours?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I have to think about that, but it’s been probably 4 or 5 years. I had one stolen that I had for a couple years before that and I bought another one. I’m thinking of getting a Helo. I’m a pretty big guy 6’4” and 260. I’m hoping it won’t be too small.
I looked last night and the MWW21 code still works for $36 off but sales tax and shipping gets it back up into the $233 range.
I’d be interested to see where they go with this company. Not really sure where their place is in the market if they just make carbon copies of the lone wolfs
I cant remember where but I listened to a podcast that the guy was interviewing the owners and they said this was just the beginning and to expect them to have a big 2021. Overall this is great for hunting in my opinion!
Michigan Great Outdoors I think all new companies (especially making hunting equipment more affordable) is great and creating competition
I 100% agree
Check out the podcast by deerhunterpodcast with Novix. The parent company owns both.
@@youthoutreach2010 yeah thats the one I listened too.
How would this compare to the beast stand? Pretty similar just have the price? Few extra lbs too
Beast is smaller, lighter and more expensive. By a lot.
I'm torn between the echo and the helo. Part of me likes the size of the helo part of me leans to the echo lol.
The helo is better for mobile hunting. Echo is a lot bigger.
Idk what the whole "mobile" craze is. Some of us been hunting that way for the last 20yrs with 28lb climbers lol.
Nice sharing
Thanks for liking
Is there a built in bow holder on the Echo like the Assault.
No.
Is there a bow mount like the lone wolf in platform
No
What's the Assault II hunt ready weight? Including straps and cushion?
With mine its 10.9lbs with one strap. I think the seat weighs half a pound so right around 11.4 or 5 if you use 2 straps then add .35 more
Do you know if the Lone Wolf EZ Hang hook strap and footrests will work with it?
Yes they both work, from what Ive heard. I have not tried it myself though. You could send Novix a message on Facebook or Instagram. They are pretty responsive.
Any idea what the seat height is for the novix helo?
Its 20 or 21 inches tall
After a yr, what do you think of your stand now? I have been considering the echo.
Its a solid option, its a little big to be honest. So if your mobile hunting in swamps like me its probably not the best option, I like to use it where I go in for all day sits in the rut. Definitely a safe reliable stand.
No need for the bottom strap?
I dont ever use the bottom strap.
How are you hauling the sticks with it?
I just bungee them on.
I will always spend more for higher quality gear. When made in USA I have no regrets.
I owned some XOP stuff and you can tell the quality differences and issues.
Because of the China virus, I will go far out of out of my way to not buy China products. I know that may be impossible to go 100% but the more we all make a big deal of it. Pay for quality, it is actually cheaper in the long run in so many ways.
Yeah man! Im 100% the same now. Trying my best to avoid Chinese crap.
If the Lone Wolf Alpha weighs 14.5 lbs and the Novix Echo weights at 11.5 lbs and they are both the same exact size platform and look the same exact way, how can the Echo weight 3 lbs less than the LW Alpha? I dont believe that.
The casting is different, not as thick in areas.
Have you tried that rivers edge cast stand budget minded stand
The rivers edge light foot? Not yet but its on my list to do! Watch for it in a month maybe!
It’s 14 lbs tho
@@reddawng43x91 yeah it's definitely heavy! My buddy said they discontinued it?
I see on noxix’s website they say it’s rated for 300lb but you mention it having a TMA rating of 350 do you know if they changed it since this video? Thanks!
Yes, they changed it.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors dang ok thanks for the response. I’m pushing 300 and like the idea of using this for all day sits late season.
@@andrewwaldron6012 im not sure if you can afford one but the lwcg 2.0 would be ideal for that. Its 300 rated but is capable of handling more than that.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors thanks for the feedback I’ve been eyeballing those too. Any issues with the flex on those stands being bigger? I’m 6ft and was also wondering on there seat height options what would be the most comfortable. I’m willing to spend the cash on something that is well built and I will want to sit all day in.
@@andrewwaldron6012 the 2.0 is a thicker platform so i flexes less. If your 6ft id go with the 22" post. Good luck
Did you use that stand much this season and was it easy to hang
I used it twice this season, its pretty easy to hang. Its just kinda big to be honest probably not the best option for mobile hunting unless you require a very large platform.
Its still a top notch stand tho!
I thought I had narrowed my search down to the xop vanish but this might change that. Gotta decide by the end of the day haha
Yeah, Ive heard xop has had some cracking in their platforms so im not a fan but I think maybe ive saw this 3 times in 3 years so maybe its good now. Best of luck! Lone wolf assault 2 is the beast in my opinion unless u wanna ball out on lone wolf custom gear.
I ordered the echo. We’ll see how it goes. Thanks for the review
@@JasonW479 best of luck in 2020!
Michigan Great Outdoors you too. I’ll be tuned into the channel to see how it goes 👍🏻
@@JasonW479 🤜
Hi I stopped by to visit you're channel. I hit all the buttons and bell I hope you do too Tyfs ❤ I'm soooo Looking forward to seeing more videos!! Have a wonderful day much love to you 🥰
Thank you so much!
I don’t know if I already asked you what backpack straps you use for your lone wolf stand?
Just some molle 2 straps.
Michigan Great Outdoors i am trying to get it setup perfect for two of my boys. I mean I want to try it but they will be using it we got them some Xop padded straps they can try out!
@@stevenhicks815 nice brother 🤜
Michigan Great Outdoors pretty much got setup and everything coming only thing waiting on ordered some stick talons last Friday but have not got confirmation on those yet everything else will be here by Tom for it!
Got to get your stand out anymore?
Hey buddy what backpack straps you use for your lone wolf stand?
I got some molle 2
Michigan Great Outdoors you know what seat would be good for the new novix stand I have bad back need some cushion something that will fit and stay on!
Hunt comfort on amazon
Michigan Great Outdoors I had one in my cart on amazon but not great reviews. But maybe they are not bad! I was thinking about a Xop cushion also but same thing so not sure what to do
I am going to go ahead and order one with my bad back if it last a season be worth 47.00!
So my echo just came in the mail. Are the platform and the seat supposed to be unpainted? The post is clearly painted tan but my seat and platform is bare aluminum. I messaged them on Facebook. Any thoughts?
Hey, I called Novix and asked them about this and one of the managers told me that they have never painted the stands, he said the tan color comes from the aluminum oxidation that happens over time. He said they have changed what he referred to as the "quench' fluid which is done after the heat treating process. He said the fluid will darken over time. He also said because of the super high demand of the novix HELO and the foundry being behind in forging new castings the stands are shipping out as fast as they are assembled so they have no time to oxidize in the plant. I was told the tan color will will naturally appear. This is what they said because I called them and asked. I wouldn't think they would intentionally mislead me. Thats all I know....
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Interesting. I just found it odd that everything else (post) and the double climbing sticks were painted tan. Everything else included was as advertised. Not necessarily a deal breaker because I planned on stealth stripping things anyway - will likely paint everything a flat tan because I'm the type of dude that likes everything to match. Thanks for the quick reply and good CZcams content. This video more or less sold me on the Echo; in addition to the endorsement by the boys at Midwest Whitetail.
You know it is really strange and there responses have been kinda strange too. Like they updated the main product picture to show it silver but also have it shown tan in another photo. I talked to my guy that works there and he said they are beyond swamped and can barely breath with the amount of orders they have an labor shortages. I dont know, its interesting to see a company thats known for quality push out such a crappy looking platform color... I mean who the heck should have to paint a stand when it arrives after paying $240.00
I’m 265 pounds would you feel safe in it
Oh yes, im 260-265 and hunted out of it all season. Ill admit the first sit 20ft up I was nervous but now I dont even think about it. I just always harness in before I get in for good measure. Ill be in it tomorrow morning!!
I trust the stand I just have never used just the cinch straps that’s what Iam nervous about lol
@@kalinecole I just think of it this way, thousands of guys use them every day all season with no issues. I think ive only ever heard of one failing in the last 3 years.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I couple always throw a extra ratchet strap for good measure lol
Is this actually a lone wolf stand I’m confused?
It kinda is, same plant, same owners new brand. Direct shipping to consumers which means a lower price product.
I was kind of nervous to order with my card form the company
@@stevenhicks815 really how come? I had no issues, they also offer PayPal or Google pay if u dont wanna use your card.
Michigan Great Outdoors I guess I am just nervous it won’t be as good of stand, cause I have wanted lone wolf for so long! Then I was nervous ordering from somewhere i did not know!
I think the lone wolf assault 2 is a better stand honestly. Just has a smaller platform.
Pore lone wolf that's there stand
Sure is!!
Now I understand why Wolf sticks went up in price recently. The Novix sticks are the price Wolf USE to be.
How much did they go up??
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors The Wolf were around $180 for 4 and they're $209 now.
@@SteveZ919 oh wow.... thats crazy. Well the novix ones are the same exact stick
This is stupid just a cheaper way to get a lone wolf . There was already xop .at least i dont get it . Maybe theyll put a decent seat on these stands in the future
only lone wolf is china made.
I disagree, its smart. Who doesn't wanna save money?
Xop is made in China, lone wolf made in USA.
All these damn adds now... Haha. Jk. Great review brother and way cheaper than the lone 🐺
thanks my man!
I'll stick with my Lone Wolf Alpha ll..
I really love mine too. Cant be beat in my opinion for overall value.
I saved 120.00 between sticks and stand I am interested to try this new stand out! Exactly same pretty much
@@stevenhicks815 I would to if I didn't already have the Lone wolf sticks and stand.
Rob King I’m so pumped to get it and try it iut
@@stevenhicks815 It looks like it should perform the same. That is a great deal.