It seems like even for Nintendo, from now on, it wouldn't be so easy. With Switch 2, their game development costs and time to make a game will go up too.
Capcom, a well-known Japanese game company, has seen increased sales by making their games multiplatform. Square, on the other hand, should also expand their reach.
“Increases sales by making multiplatform”. More like HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MULTIPLATFORM. Resident Evil OG trilogy saw most of its sales on PlayStation actually. But later they tied exclusivity with Nintendo. But that backfired cause RE4 and Remake 1 failed at first until they were multiplatform. The last lesson of Capcom being a bad company was selling out to appease the west. With DMC Devil May Cry killing Dante and Re6 sucking by being a western appeasing disaster. Re7 and going back to creativity was the spark that lead to modern Capcom love.
this is more apparent when comparing Final Fantasy 15 which launched on all Platforms (PC, PS & XBOX) sold over 15 million units while Final Fantasy 16 which was a PS5 exclusive sold a measly 3 million units
@@dapperfan44 Only? That's still huge and we don't even know how many PC units it's sold but it's definitely sold quite well on PC. Putting the percentages together it's probably close to around 50%
I don't think it was ever about sales numbers. I think the console benefits from the exclusivity by selling more consoles and the dev or publishers maybe receives some kinds of kickbacks. A dev or publisher would never want to limit their reach like that unless they were receiving money on the back end
I never did for the game producers. It means good sales for the hardware, or Sony. Exclusivity is necessary for hardware. Nintendo taught us this. But yeah, the game makers make way more making the game available anywhere.
Take a drung that gives consious dreams thst mske things look real. People may call u crazy but....those people hate gamers and think we are crazy anyways so...who cares it be fun for u.
I've worked in the entertainment industry for over 16 years. The ONLY time I've seen anything like we're seeing now is during the 2008 recession. Politicians INSIST on not calling our current economic situation a recession but with the closing of Banks that would lend money to entertainment companies, weak dollar, rising development costs and general uncertainty around personal finances, the FIRST thing that takes a hit is the entertainment industry. The industry however does have to not rely on bloated budgets and infinite growth to fuel their decisions so, there has to be a change in strategy as well
The larger final fantasy games would sell like hot cakes on Nintendo Switch. Nintendo crowd eat those kinda games up. Hopefully they can do it with the switch 2. I imagine they could port ff15 and ff7 remake at least to it. Those would sell so well
@@prismatic9890if I was Nintendo I would make companies doing PS exclusives (and having not very good sales on them) pay an extra % if they want to make their games on next switch (at low costs) 😁
Would sell amazing on the switch, but with the demanding graphics of ff7 & ff16 it wouldn’t even be able to run on the current switch. Hoping the switch 2 bumps the horsepower to run these games, even if they have to downscale it a bit to run smooth
I have said this time and time again but the Fanboys always want to argue with me. If a game cost 95 million to make it doesn't break even unless it sells 5 million copies, and you can't simply multiply the cost of the game versus how many copies sold. There's advertising, licensing fees, taxes, retail fees unless it's all digital only, there's lots of expenses.
True but it still will be kind of disappointing and Nintendo switch 2 might benefit more with this then any other console also every game will have to be graphically the same for every console as well
Yep. I've wanted to play their games but literally can't. I got the series x for gamepass because I skipped the Xbox one. I had a ton of "new" games to play. I don't want to buy a whole console for Square
@@MightNight99 Considering the two main consoles right now are almost identical and any future consoles will remain the same power wise I don't see this as a issue.
True these game companies need to start going back to basic. Stop making games look realistic and go to great gameplay and good story for games. And also stop these multiple players live game and come up with good single players games that 30 hrs and good
Because everyone likes licking the boot of Sony. Sony actually released their own games as well. Which softens that blow a bit. They had 5-6 actual releases from their own studios. Whereas MS released a console and had…Forza on it. Yay… Then shoved everything to GamePass and wondered why they’re hurting financially.
@@sjue316 The amount of hate xbox gets is laughable. When Starfield came out, they had made the largest amount of revenue in their divisions history for Q1. Keep hating.
@@acdoob According to who? Starfield bombed and was put on Gamepass. I don't even think you could find it in a store. MS hasn't been making money for a while.
The main reason I don't have a PS5 yet, as much as I want to get one, is the prices of games. 70 dollars with almost no game getting a price drop is crazy. It means that every game I'll buy have to masterpiece in order to justfie the purchese, which is very unrealistic.
I don’t buy games new anymore. Just get it used for half the price at least. I’m always behind because my backlog is huge which helps with the cost because I’d buy a game way later when I can find it used for a fraction of the new price. Also ps plus extra is a good value.
@@deadringer8050yeah I’m guessing he’s being sarcastic. Either that or he’s literally the entire Xbox market that would purchase these games 😂 not many out there.
@@akg7873 I'm being dead serious. I also bought Baldur's Gate 3 on Xbox. There are some of us who actually buy the games and not just what is on Game Pass. Besides if the game is made and it won't cost you that much to port... they would be stupid to leave that money on the table.
@@Five4Friday-tr5pg yah jokes aside I still think it’s worth it to port it over to Xbox. I’m actually surprised they weren’t doing that already I’ve been out of the loop I guess.
We'll definitely buy them if third parties would stop treating us like 2nd class citizens. They fanboys tell us that they would release more games on our system of choice if we went out and bought them, but we can tell when a company only does it half assed. I t's not like we don't see the releasing weaksauce spinoffs and remasters, when the full course meals get served to the other guy. Why would I spend money on a company like that?
@@dragendorff7090 Big Mac 1986 NES era $1.60, milk $1.12, eggs $0.84 cents, $0.50 cents. Video games can be a $10 $30 difference from the 80s and 90s however, food is what you need to survive not video games. So yes, the economy plays a huge role
I wanted to say something similar . With tech advancing it won't be necessary to be tied to home consoles anymore if there are other ways to play aaa games outside there respective eco systems .
@therealjaystone2344 I think that's exactly what's going to happen . In a few years pc handhelds should be playing undocked at 60 fps. If not very soon already. And mini pcs are a thing for some people as well. No need for full rigs unless your a serious competitor or want all the bells and whistles.
@therealjaystone2344 yes I agree . Rog 2 or 3 ,legion go 2, steam deck 2 . Mini pcs. I mean even the future of cpu chips and integrated graphics getting better without a need for a gpu. The newer chips for pc handhelds allowing for ai upscaling and fps performance uplifts for better performance . The tech is getting better every few years.
The thing about the initial launch window is that Final Fantasy is the Flagship franchise for Square. Once those games are out, they become demystified so down the line when they launch for PC and other platforms, people know what to expect and are either not buying or going to buy. Those FOMO sales get lapped up by games such as Like a Dragon and Shin Megami Tensei games. Square isn't the only one in town when it comes to big RPG and they need to realize what other companies are doing. Its not the end all be all but it certainly is a step in the right decision to have access to more consumers with your flagship titles.
It's clear that Sony and Microsoft went into this generation thinking on scooping up as many exclusivity deals as possible, and that plan isn't panning out. Be expecting more news like this on both sides.
I knew they would eventually suffer from making Remake and Rebirth exclusives. These companies keep making deals with Sony and losing so much money. The same happened to Street Fighter 5 when it was exclusive to Playstation. 3rd party companies should for the most part stay multiplatform, unless it's a franchise owned by the specific platform and their in a deal for developing the game for them. That should be the only exception.
Oh, so Squeenix just realized that they can make more money by reaching a bigger audience & that us Nintendo & X-Box users might actually want to play their tentpole releases too? 🤯
FF7 remake started on PS4, but FF7 Integrade made it to PC 20 months later. Releasing two FF games in less than a year then have two dlc releases for FF16 in that time is too much for many fans. Definitely, adding the games day 1 to PC and getting them on Nintendo in the future can help sales. If you make bad games like Forspoken having multi platforms won’t necessarily save you either.
This "go big or go home" mentality started in the PS3 era. Arguably it's what saved the PS3. But a lot has changed. These huge budget games, much like with film, were never sustainable. You need a huge audience just to break even, and that inevitably means watering down the game for mass appeal. It's gotten to the point where every AAA game feels the same. To put it into perspective, the estimated development cost for BOTW was $40-$60 million. Which is a lot for a Nintendo game. FFVII Rebirth is estimated to have cost SE three to four times that. Which sold more in the same time frame?
I miss Squaresoft games. Enix hasn't produced one that I've kept on my shelf. I have a ton of older jrpgs but nothing newer than ff9. They really need to look back on how they put games out back to back in the same year, year after year. Smaller budgets, more games, some won't be classics but also won't be a financial blackhole.
Same except I felt things started going downhill for Square after 2001's FFX , and felt the golden age of gaming as a whole was over after 2004 or 2005 , so shortly after Squaresoft died/merged.
Rebirth tanking in sales has nothing to do with exclusivity, but everything to do with the game being infested with mini games. Sales should have doubled due to ff7 remake success but it didn't, guess why? Rebirth is literally a mini-game title, I never seen a game with so many mini games.
@@differentsame9402 yeah it’s also a bloated Ubisoft open world, messed up the most important scene in the franchises history, and the storyline is absolute fan fiction dogshit
They had to adjust it. I heard when Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth launched some higher ups were dissapointed. Why is our game only selling half as much as Final Fantasy 7 Remake did? It's simple math. Remake launched on the PS4. A system which at the time had an installbase of 100million. Rebirth launched on the PS5 which had around 50 million systems sold. The game selling half as much makes perfect sense. You cannot be suprised by that. Going multiplattform is the best choice for them. Launching games exclusive to PS5 or XBox Series makes no sense unless Sony and Microsoft pay for like 75% of development cost. I'm sure they get support but not that much I'm afraid.
I have seen this industry change so much in the past 6 yrs. Gamers are not cash cows we have families daily expenses gaming is a luxury and a hobby. I think these platforms are pushing the envelope a bit to much. Money isn't coming in as easily and quickly these days
The more games come to PC, especially if they're Linux/Steam Deck friendly, the better. I'm just done keeping 2-3 separate boxes under the TV to play the various different games I want to play. Being able to play thru Final Fantasy 7 Intergrade, God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, etc. on my Steam Deck has been awesome. Sony has been releasing some absolute bangers on PC so I'm more than happy to give them my money for a game that I can keep basically forever and replay on whatever new PC I happen to have at the time.
I don't see why this is bad for console owners . If you want to play on Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo, or PC just play there and enjoy. I have a PC and PlayStation . I may get a Nintendo if they made a game I wanted and couldn't get anywhere else. I even get some do the same games on PC and PS5 to enjoy where I can. No need for Xbox at the .moment as I get their games on PC . That works for me. The more people playing games where they want is a win for us, the consumer
That's exactly what I do. I have a powerful PC, a ps5 and a switch. Covers all the bases pretty much. I have more games than time on the planet I think :( Can't forget my 360, ps2, and ps1 either ;)
I do wonder how this will affect the handheld market. I feel like game devs could develop beautiful games for handhelds that cost less to produce and cost less for the consumers to purchase. Like even back when I had a GBA, a GBC, and a DS, I was buying more games than I am now with regular standard consoles. I was even buying more games with the PSP and PSVITA than I am now. A lot of us even switched to PC because there's more access on PC to all the old games and the new games. It's like console exclusivity has switched from being intended for certain audiences to intended to sell consoles. I think the world needs handhelds and less bulky standard consoles to save the market or just switch to no exclusives and focus on PC sale for the big titles and you can have indie small-cost games on handhelds.
Here I am with my wallet open for FF16 and FF7 Rebirth, but on PC. PS5, a far smaller platform, was never a smartly timed exclusivity idea, as I'm not alone.
Where I live there has NEVER been any PS5s in stock in the stores since it came out. They still just have signs up that say if you want a PS5 you need to make an order online, they don't have the ability to stock them for in person purchases lol.
Ultimately it’s software sales that keep you afloat, and if you’re restricting yourself to just one platform then that platform better be helping out with the expenses that come along with the growing costs of game development. This is precisely why console exclusivies will mostly be a thing of the past in the future.
That´s what you get when you release games digitally only (and leave the physical editions to Asia only) and, above all, not releasing CHRONO TRIGGER on the mighty Switch
Sega and capcom were going through the same thing now look at them they are both killing it square needs to start putting things on switch/switch 2 xbox series x and pc now becuase its clearly not working just on ps5 i just hope they actually find their brain and start porting stuff soon so they can make money and people who dont own a ps5 can finally play these games.
My whole life was sony . I had my buddy for a few years telling me to go the pc route . I finally did. And i see that since the pc handhelds came out you dont really need a full rig anymore to play aaa games. So i dont know the number of ppl going the pc route but i dont think the exclusive route is the way to go in the future . I remember consoles use to be the only way to play aaa and modern titles . Now there are alternative ways outside the console eco systems to do that . Of course if you have some extra cash to break away from the home console.
I adore Rebirth, just been busy with work since it came out but almost 100 hours and in the final chapter. Also Pacers fan here 💀 what a game last night, but it’s far from over - the first three games have been back and forth and close
I’m just one gamer but I primarily play on Xbox and am thrilled about this news. Hope to be able to buy FF7R on Xbox soon. Knowing that the next DQ will for sure come to Xbox is also very exciting.
The average budget of a 16bit 2D game in 1992 was $200,000 Games now are costing up to $300 Million Something has to change soon or there will be another crash.
The problem isn't that games budgets are increasing(unless the game doesn't make back that) it's just that these companies focus on JUST those size games/games with that budget. If more of these companies started to fund smaller games alongside these big budget games we would see them doing ok or being able to sustain such high costs. Making smaller sprite/ 8 bit Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest games or help smaller IPs get greenlit.
There were some smaller games (Octopath e.g.) made by SE, which were primarly made for Switch. But they did seem to not sell that well. Didn't help that they never really marketed them outside of the Switch. I just learnt today, that these games released on Steam.
@@LG555 But see a game like Octopath probably only has to sell maybe half a million to break even and start making a profit. Thats the reason it's smart to invest more in games like OT. They have quicker turnaround and can profit much quicker and essentially function like an indie game. Indie games can have huge success fairly quickly because of budget restraints. Big companies like SE should start putting value on small games and what can be made from them than just the heavy hitters. Also I realize there are smaller games made by these companies but not enough focus is put on them especially when you look at advertising.
Square released more smaller and AA games then their big AAA, problem is the games were mostly crap and didn’t sell well, all of their big directors want to make the big games, Star ocean, valkyrie elysium, octopath, Babylons fall, livealive… not like they can spend big money marketing these games too if they spend as much as those big titles on marketing and they still don’t sell they are in a bigger hole… I don’t think they need smaller games they don’t seem to be great in the AA space, and only ok in the 16bit octopath style games, they need to focus on what they are good at and release at least on pc at the same time with the big titles and they will be ok.
@kirbstomp4484 I wanted to try to lend additional morale support for. RGT. I do look forward to Hart and Donte coming off the bench to bolster the depth.
This is good news! I am a fan of the ps5 sure. But only for the exclusives. I HATE exclusives. I have everything so I can play everything. I am also a pc user, and switch occasionally. Time and time again when companies go multi plat they immediately see success. Look at Atlus for example. They have received a huge influx of players for their games when they went multi plat. It does drive success. Idk what these devs are doing. 🤷♂️
What are the chances SE gets acquired sooner than later? If they are pumping out games, turning a profit while having exclusives, and whoever has capital right now is drooling.
i feel like this is something they've should've done a long time ago, KH on epic was already arguably eyebrow raising enough and then when it dropped on switch that's where i feel like alot of people really started to question their choices, crisis core remake on switch but not FF7R has never really sat right with me, crisis core from what i've heard is one of those hit or miss games, but it's just odd to have the remake on switch and not FF7R, people will probably say "just play the og FF7" and i have it's my fav game of all time now, but my point is there's another argument to be made here as well which is "they should've ported the og crisis core", but me rambling somewhat only proves how odd it is when it comes to square's recent choices
💐💐 In My Opinion , It’s About Damn Time Square Enix , You Should Have Done This Ages Ago !!!! . I see Square Enix Going Multi-Platform As A Smart And Excellent Idea Because I Believe Cross-Platform Is The Way Of The Future !!!! . I think Exclusives are Outdated and only hurt the gaming industry not help it !!!! . 💐💐
“We’re hemorrhaging money, what do we do? Fix what’s wrong with our titles? Ditch consumer unfriendly elements gamers don’t want, stuff like NFT’s??” *Devote time, effort and resources to port games to a platform where the userbase has been conditioned to not buy games and instead wait for a gamepass drop or else not play it at all.*
What are you talking about? PS Plus Premium is $160 a year and doesn't have any of the games in their "Classics" catalog to even come near justifying that price. 99% of my PS games are Physical and that isn't changing any time soon. Really need to get off those Sony hating PC Bro forums. It's clearly rotting your brain, for lack of a better word.
I’m a PS5 guy but even I see they need to go multiplatform. Why limit your fan base when you can reach them on multiple consoles & PC Both final fantasy 16 & FF7 should be enjoyed by many, not just limited to the PS5
I'm tired of people saying Xbox players don't buy games. Plenty of people bought Elden Ring and Hogwarts: Legacy. This notion that people don't buy games on Xbox has no scientific backing. People keep pointing to "sales charts" but ignore the fact that the only publicly available charts are physical only in the United Kingdom. Xbox is predominantly digital.
@@jackstover1439if that’s the case why is Activision having a huge issue with putting Cod on gamepass, why is most publishers shying away from Gamepaas
@@dimes305 I know I just messing with him. I know both not dead. I do know the gaming industry not the same like it was back then everything has change.
WHEN IT COMES CRASHING DOWN AND IT HURTS INSIDE!
Ya-think 😂
This generation is crashing down.
dont better health sponsor you they got shady practices and past. look into it. some of there therapist arnt even l;icensexd
🎵 YOU GOTTA TAKE A STAND IT DON’T HELP TO HIDE! 🎵
another day in a nintendo youtuber life
💀 “Development cost of video games is out of control”
😤 “Nintendo casually making a 20 million unit selling banger on a $10-$15 million budget”
Maybe other companies should start prioritizing artistic style and FUN
Executive games are cancer I'm gald that Executive games are dying and game going multiplatform rising
It seems like even for Nintendo, from now on, it wouldn't be so easy. With Switch 2, their game development costs and time to make a game will go up too.
@@Mrplaguedoctor123glad pc gamers can play current Nintendo games
@@zerohbeat expect $70 switch 2 games too
Capcom, a well-known Japanese game company, has seen increased sales by making their games multiplatform. Square, on the other hand, should also expand their reach.
Thanks for explaining what Capcom is. Nobody has ever heard of them
Capcom remakes are lazy trash, not even on the budget of Final Fantasy that's why.
Capcom has dipped their toe into the political realm so they shouldn't be trusted.
“Increases sales by making multiplatform”.
More like HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MULTIPLATFORM.
Resident Evil OG trilogy saw most of its sales on PlayStation actually. But later they tied exclusivity with Nintendo. But that backfired cause RE4 and Remake 1 failed at first until they were multiplatform.
The last lesson of Capcom being a bad company was selling out to appease the west. With DMC Devil May Cry killing Dante and Re6 sucking by being a western appeasing disaster.
Re7 and going back to creativity was the spark that lead to modern Capcom love.
Exclusives are becoming a thing of the past. Thank god.
this is more apparent when comparing Final Fantasy 15 which launched on all Platforms (PC, PS & XBOX) sold over 15 million units while Final Fantasy 16 which was a PS5 exclusive sold a measly 3 million units
Only 20% of those sales were Xbox gamers.
@dapperfan44 that's still a lot of money in sales. 20% is no laughing matter.
@@dapperfan44 Only? That's still huge and we don't even know how many PC units it's sold but it's definitely sold quite well on PC. Putting the percentages together it's probably close to around 50%
@@TheBlargMargExactly. 20% of around 15 Million is roughly 3 Million. The amount FF16 sold on PS5.
@@dapperfan44 Which is 3 million units.... That is what the entirety of FF 16 sold on PS5 so far...
Well at least they learned that exclusivity doesn't always means good sales numbers
I don't think it was ever about sales numbers. I think the console benefits from the exclusivity by selling more consoles and the dev or publishers maybe receives some kinds of kickbacks. A dev or publisher would never want to limit their reach like that unless they were receiving money on the back end
I never did for the game producers. It means good sales for the hardware, or Sony. Exclusivity is necessary for hardware. Nintendo taught us this. But yeah, the game makers make way more making the game available anywhere.
Exclusivity never means good sales numbers lmfao
if I wanted super realistic graphics I'd just go outside...
Why not just look at yourself from a mirror
Take a drung that gives consious dreams thst mske things look real.
People may call u crazy but....those people hate gamers and think we are crazy anyways so...who cares it be fun for u.
I've worked in the entertainment industry for over 16 years. The ONLY time I've seen anything like we're seeing now is during the 2008 recession. Politicians INSIST on not calling our current economic situation a recession but with the closing of Banks that would lend money to entertainment companies, weak dollar, rising development costs and general uncertainty around personal finances, the FIRST thing that takes a hit is the entertainment industry.
The industry however does have to not rely on bloated budgets and infinite growth to fuel their decisions so, there has to be a change in strategy as well
Square not pushing there main games to Switch was a mistake, people buy games there.
Except Dragon Quest. At least we got plenty of Dragon Quest games on Switch. We even have Dragon Quest 7 & 8 remake on 3DS; which I still have them.
The larger final fantasy games would sell like hot cakes on Nintendo Switch. Nintendo crowd eat those kinda games up. Hopefully they can do it with the switch 2. I imagine they could port ff15 and ff7 remake at least to it. Those would sell so well
@@prismatic9890if I was Nintendo I would make companies doing PS exclusives (and having not very good sales on them) pay an extra % if they want to make their games on next switch (at low costs) 😁
Would sell amazing on the switch, but with the demanding graphics of ff7 & ff16 it wouldn’t even be able to run on the current switch. Hoping the switch 2 bumps the horsepower to run these games, even if they have to downscale it a bit to run smooth
Do we have any Crisis Core sales numbers on the Switch?
I have said this time and time again but the Fanboys always want to argue with me. If a game cost 95 million to make it doesn't break even unless it sells 5 million copies, and you can't simply multiply the cost of the game versus how many copies sold. There's advertising, licensing fees, taxes, retail fees unless it's all digital only, there's lots of expenses.
The gaming industry following the Sony formula to make every AAA game to run like the box office
And that's why we're going towards an old digital gaming industry very soon
Maybe the morons should’ve released it on ps4 and ps5. There wasnt near enough ps5s yet
That's where sony swoop in, they'll cover all the costs and the potential lost of opportunity 😂
@@anro_gaming Nah if they did then Square wouldn't be going multiplatform.
Square Enix stopping PS5 Exclusives? Finally they learn LOL
True but it still will be kind of disappointing and Nintendo switch 2 might benefit more with this then any other console also every game will have to be graphically the same for every console as well
Hopefully that means we'll get rebirth on PC sooner (and not on the Epic game store).
Even Sony is releasing their game on PC as well.
Yep. I've wanted to play their games but literally can't. I got the series x for gamepass because I skipped the Xbox one. I had a ton of "new" games to play.
I don't want to buy a whole console for Square
@@MightNight99 Considering the two main consoles right now are almost identical and any future consoles will remain the same power wise I don't see this as a issue.
Dreamcastguy is shaking his fist in anger right now
Am I? I made a video on the exact topic and said this was great. :P
Damn!!! Not only you’re wrong but the actually guy comment on your OG post.
as Kelso would say
BURRRRRNNNNNN!!!!!
@@DreamcastGuy Yes you are, pain is behind that smile
😂@@DreamcastGuy
@@PlayStation4KingI'm inclined to believe you. dreamcastguy is a stain.
FF7 remake and FF7 Rebirth coming to switch 2 would be awesome
With no censorship hopefully
For real
@@xdomemanthe game is still being made by sweet baby either way
sony owns complete console exclusivity for the 3 games if you do not own a ps5 it will come to pc..
I can see it coming to other platforms at some point but it all depends on what licence they've got in place with Square Enix
True these game companies need to start going back to basic. Stop making games look realistic and go to great gameplay and good story for games. And also stop these multiple players live game and come up with good single players games that 30 hrs and good
Sony already shut down 4 studios before Microsoft did but they just didnt get nowhere near the backslash Microsoft got for doing it when they did it.
Because everyone likes licking the boot of Sony. Sony actually released their own games as well. Which softens that blow a bit. They had 5-6 actual releases from their own studios. Whereas MS released a console and had…Forza on it. Yay… Then shoved everything to GamePass and wondered why they’re hurting financially.
@@sjue316 Different circumstances
@@sjue316 The amount of hate xbox gets is laughable. When Starfield came out, they had made the largest amount of revenue in their divisions history for Q1. Keep hating.
@@acdoob According to who? Starfield bombed and was put on Gamepass. I don't even think you could find it in a store. MS hasn't been making money for a while.
@@jez6078 Not really. Keep telling yourself that.
Squenix has a huge quality problem and a ethics department. Before they go multiplatform they must resolve both issues.
Nah forget that just hurry up and give xbox some FF games 😊
No, first and foremost they should go multiplatform.
The main reason I don't have a PS5 yet, as much as I want to get one, is the prices of games. 70 dollars with almost no game getting a price drop is crazy. It means that every game I'll buy have to masterpiece in order to justfie the purchese, which is very unrealistic.
I don’t buy games new anymore. Just get it used for half the price at least. I’m always behind because my backlog is huge which helps with the cost because I’d buy a game way later when I can find it used for a fraction of the new price. Also ps plus extra is a good value.
I got xbox because I cant afford $70 titles not only that I dont feel safe buying used games from people with Xbox I pay $11 to play anything
@@droid4d279smart guy👍
Xbox guy here and I would 100% buy those games if they were available.
We all know this isn't true lol
@@deadringer8050yeah I’m guessing he’s being sarcastic. Either that or he’s literally the entire Xbox market that would purchase these games 😂 not many out there.
@@akg7873 I'm being dead serious. I also bought Baldur's Gate 3 on Xbox. There are some of us who actually buy the games and not just what is on Game Pass. Besides if the game is made and it won't cost you that much to port... they would be stupid to leave that money on the table.
@@Five4Friday-tr5pg yah jokes aside I still think it’s worth it to port it over to Xbox. I’m actually surprised they weren’t doing that already I’ve been out of the loop I guess.
We'll definitely buy them if third parties would stop treating us like 2nd class citizens. They fanboys tell us that they would release more games on our system of choice if we went out and bought them, but we can tell when a company only does it half assed. I
t's not like we don't see the releasing weaksauce spinoffs and remasters, when the full course meals get served to the other guy. Why would I spend money on a company like that?
So many people living in denial of how terrible the economy is, and the pricing of products has skyrocket.
Buckle up people it’s gonna get nasty
Compared to NES and SNES/Genesis prices, games are still a steal today.
@@dragendorff7090 Big Mac 1986 NES era $1.60, milk $1.12, eggs $0.84 cents, $0.50 cents.
Video games can be a $10 $30 difference from the 80s and 90s however, food is what you need to survive not video games.
So yes, the economy plays a huge role
Imagine releasing games on multiple consoles and PC... Maybe the timed exclusive deals arent worth it....
I wanted to say something similar . With tech advancing it won't be necessary to be tied to home consoles anymore if there are other ways to play aaa games outside there respective eco systems .
@@lionvrdieswatch stellar blade getting released on pc and then five years later to be released for other platforms
@therealjaystone2344 I think that's exactly what's going to happen . In a few years pc handhelds should be playing undocked at 60 fps. If not very soon already. And mini pcs are a thing for some people as well. No need for full rigs unless your a serious competitor or want all the bells and whistles.
@@lionvrdies that’s why I skipped buying the steam deck because the technology to save battery wasn’t there and steam deck 2 will improve it
@therealjaystone2344 yes I agree . Rog 2 or 3 ,legion go 2, steam deck 2 . Mini pcs. I mean even the future of cpu chips and integrated graphics getting better without a need for a gpu. The newer chips for pc handhelds allowing for ai upscaling and fps performance uplifts for better performance . The tech is getting better every few years.
Probably the smartest decision they've made in years
I would like to see more small titles from square; like some nice 10-15 hour games.
Xenogears remake when?
A remake, or just a port to modern consoles would be fine.
I'm happy SEGA, Capcom, and Nintendo are doing well though!
Sounds like Square Enix is finally coming home to Nintendo 😏.
Yeah, I agree. Looks like the N64 era is finally over.
I hope Taito will rise too for Nintendo switch 2 since is part of Square Enix..
The thing about the initial launch window is that Final Fantasy is the Flagship franchise for Square. Once those games are out, they become demystified so down the line when they launch for PC and other platforms, people know what to expect and are either not buying or going to buy. Those FOMO sales get lapped up by games such as Like a Dragon and Shin Megami Tensei games. Square isn't the only one in town when it comes to big RPG and they need to realize what other companies are doing.
Its not the end all be all but it certainly is a step in the right decision to have access to more consumers with your flagship titles.
This is a W.
An independent publisher should not be locking their games to one platform. The flopping of Final fantasy on PS5 was deserved
"Flop" is a bit of hyperbole, they expected too much as is the Square-Enix way
It's clear that Sony and Microsoft went into this generation thinking on scooping up as many exclusivity deals as possible, and that plan isn't panning out. Be expecting more news like this on both sides.
I knew they would eventually suffer from making Remake and Rebirth exclusives. These companies keep making deals with Sony and losing so much money. The same happened to Street Fighter 5 when it was exclusive to Playstation. 3rd party companies should for the most part stay multiplatform, unless it's a franchise owned by the specific platform and their in a deal for developing the game for them. That should be the only exception.
Oh, so Squeenix just realized that they can make more money by reaching a bigger audience & that us Nintendo & X-Box users might actually want to play their tentpole releases too? 🤯
3rd party companies doing exclusives are way too risky and not worth it really, especially if costs for development are going up
FF7 remake started on PS4, but FF7 Integrade made it to PC 20 months later. Releasing two FF games in less than a year then have two dlc releases for FF16 in that time is too much for many fans. Definitely, adding the games day 1 to PC and getting them on Nintendo in the future can help sales. If you make bad games like Forspoken having multi platforms won’t necessarily save you either.
Agree. If I could get the FF7 remake now on steam deck I would because of the hype, not sure in 2 years in case it is launched on steam
Forspoken was an abomination
This "go big or go home" mentality started in the PS3 era. Arguably it's what saved the PS3. But a lot has changed. These huge budget games, much like with film, were never sustainable. You need a huge audience just to break even, and that inevitably means watering down the game for mass appeal. It's gotten to the point where every AAA game feels the same. To put it into perspective, the estimated development cost for BOTW was $40-$60 million. Which is a lot for a Nintendo game. FFVII Rebirth is estimated to have cost SE three to four times that. Which sold more in the same time frame?
They say this every five years.
And they are still here.
These announcements are probably just negotiating tactics to get a bigger check from Sony.
Until they aren’t
Well if sony did not pay them enough for the exclusive then surely that is squares issue for agreeing a deal
Good, the ff 7 remake trilogy was too big to be stuck on _one_ console
I miss Squaresoft games. Enix hasn't produced one that I've kept on my shelf. I have a ton of older jrpgs but nothing newer than ff9. They really need to look back on how they put games out back to back in the same year, year after year. Smaller budgets, more games, some won't be classics but also won't be a financial blackhole.
Same except I felt things started going downhill for Square after 2001's FFX , and felt the golden age of gaming as a whole was over after 2004 or 2005 , so shortly after Squaresoft died/merged.
Considering FF7 Rebirth sold terribly on PS5 I’m not surprised by this news
Rebirth tanking in sales has nothing to do with exclusivity, but everything to do with the game being infested with mini games. Sales should have doubled due to ff7 remake success but it didn't, guess why? Rebirth is literally a mini-game title, I never seen a game with so many mini games.
@@differentsame9402 yeah it’s also a bloated Ubisoft open world, messed up the most important scene in the franchises history, and the storyline is absolute fan fiction dogshit
"Terribly" is a bit of hyperbole, we don't know the sales figures yet, just physical sales from a week in Japan
@@kennethwolf1763 wrong on every point there but you strike me as very unintelligent
@@conor6436 oh yeah? How am I wrong then? Unintelligent because I don’t have a carbon coby opinion that you don’t like?
So happy SE is doing this, they can’t keep ignoring all that money on the table 🤷🏾♂️
They had to adjust it.
I heard when Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth launched some higher ups were dissapointed.
Why is our game only selling half as much as Final Fantasy 7 Remake did?
It's simple math. Remake launched on the PS4. A system which at the time had an installbase of 100million. Rebirth launched on the PS5 which had around 50 million systems sold.
The game selling half as much makes perfect sense. You cannot be suprised by that.
Going multiplattform is the best choice for them. Launching games exclusive to PS5 or XBox Series makes no sense unless Sony and Microsoft pay for like 75% of development cost.
I'm sure they get support but not that much I'm afraid.
How much are they going to get from putting it on xbox for example because more platforms you develop for the the budget then increases.
I have seen this industry change so much in the past 6 yrs. Gamers are not cash cows we have families daily expenses gaming is a luxury and a hobby. I think these platforms are pushing the envelope a bit to much. Money isn't coming in as easily and quickly these days
The more games come to PC, especially if they're Linux/Steam Deck friendly, the better. I'm just done keeping 2-3 separate boxes under the TV to play the various different games I want to play. Being able to play thru Final Fantasy 7 Intergrade, God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, etc. on my Steam Deck has been awesome. Sony has been releasing some absolute bangers on PC so I'm more than happy to give them my money for a game that I can keep basically forever and replay on whatever new PC I happen to have at the time.
About freaking time Square, about freaking time.
How many Ls did they have to take before they came to this? The world may never know.
I don't see why this is bad for console owners . If you want to play on Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo, or PC just play there and enjoy. I have a PC and PlayStation . I may get a Nintendo if they made a game I wanted and couldn't get anywhere else. I even get some do the same games on PC and PS5 to enjoy where I can. No need for Xbox at the .moment as I get their games on PC . That works for me. The more people playing games where they want is a win for us, the consumer
That's exactly what I do. I have a powerful PC, a ps5 and a switch. Covers all the bases pretty much. I have more games than time on the planet I think :( Can't forget my 360, ps2, and ps1 either ;)
Hey @rgt. Think they can be saved with the CHRONO series?
I do wonder how this will affect the handheld market. I feel like game devs could develop beautiful games for handhelds that cost less to produce and cost less for the consumers to purchase. Like even back when I had a GBA, a GBC, and a DS, I was buying more games than I am now with regular standard consoles. I was even buying more games with the PSP and PSVITA than I am now. A lot of us even switched to PC because there's more access on PC to all the old games and the new games. It's like console exclusivity has switched from being intended for certain audiences to intended to sell consoles. I think the world needs handhelds and less bulky standard consoles to save the market or just switch to no exclusives and focus on PC sale for the big titles and you can have indie small-cost games on handhelds.
It's about dang time. The sooner Rebirth & 16 come to PC the sooner I can play them. I've loved the franchise ever since the first game on the NES.
My God the mods!!
Here I am with my wallet open for FF16 and FF7 Rebirth, but on PC. PS5, a far smaller platform, was never a smartly timed exclusivity idea, as I'm not alone.
Im also in the same boat . Im not giving them my money for ff unless i see it come to pc .
Me too! I will buy these as soon as they are available, but I'm not going to buy new hardware to play these games at lower res and fps.
They didn't give us the gamers we want
With how everything gets attacked and how gamers are constantly outraged any more, what DO gamers want any more? Jesus Christ.
@@stevenwasik3369 but we pay for the games
Games going mult plat and indie companies are probably the only thing preventing an all out crash of the industry.
All games needs to be released on as many platforms as possible anymore, it’ll be better for the devs
Where I live there has NEVER been any PS5s in stock in the stores since it came out. They still just have signs up that say if you want a PS5 you need to make an order online, they don't have the ability to stock them for in person purchases lol.
Just buy it online FFS
How is that possible . They have them stocked at best buy now lol. It's not rare anymore.😊
where do you live? on a remote island off the coast of Alaska at the top of a tall mountain or something?
If you live in California that makes sense, people steal 24/7 from stores
You must live on one of those Samoan islands where they don't have any WiFi.....SMFH!
Ultimately it’s software sales that keep you afloat, and if you’re restricting yourself to just one platform then that platform better be helping out with the expenses that come along with the growing costs of game development. This is precisely why console exclusivies will mostly be a thing of the past in the future.
Kinda similar to Atlus porting their games to everything. I hope the Square Enix game studios figure it out.
That´s what you get when you release games digitally only (and leave the physical editions to Asia only) and, above all, not releasing CHRONO TRIGGER on the mighty Switch
Good for them. Now more people can enjoy their games.
Why is 2024 such a fucking dark year in gaming
This whole generation a joke bro I saw it since the beginning
Sega and capcom were going through the same thing now look at them they are both killing it square needs to start putting things on switch/switch 2 xbox series x and pc now becuase its clearly not working just on ps5 i just hope they actually find their brain and start porting stuff soon so they can make money and people who dont own a ps5 can finally play these games.
They were following a 25 year-plus business plan and just put everything only on Playstation. That used to work, it's not working anymore.
Maybe the rumor of a running FFRemake port for Switch were true and is one of the launchgames?
Part 3 is going to haave lots of cut content.
Maybe, but they added so much detail in other spots. I'm playing the OG and remake/rebirth side by side and there is so much more in the new ones.
My whole life was sony . I had my buddy for a few years telling me to go the pc route . I finally did. And i see that since the pc handhelds came out you dont really need a full rig anymore to play aaa games. So i dont know the number of ppl going the pc route but i dont think the exclusive route is the way to go in the future . I remember consoles use to be the only way to play aaa and modern titles . Now there are alternative ways outside the console eco systems to do that . Of course if you have some extra cash to break away from the home console.
With the rumor that 7 Remake was running on the Switch 2 so it's most likely going to come to Nintendo in the future.
Exclusives are done!✌️
I adore Rebirth, just been busy with work since it came out but almost 100 hours and in the final chapter.
Also Pacers fan here 💀 what a game last night, but it’s far from over - the first three games have been back and forth and close
making ff16 ps5 exclusive was a massive mistake
I don't see how Sony can expect them to stay on their platform only when they are slowly moving to PC themselves
about time, i wanna see kh4 on pc day one.
Specifically Steam or GOG instead of Epic Games only.
What is happening to the gaming industry? Jesus Christ
is King of kings and Lord of lords. Amen!
HOLY is the name of the Lord.
The great gaming reset
I’m just one gamer but I primarily play on Xbox and am thrilled about this news. Hope to be able to buy FF7R on Xbox soon. Knowing that the next DQ will for sure come to Xbox is also very exciting.
The average budget of a 16bit 2D game in 1992 was $200,000
Games now are costing up to $300 Million
Something has to change soon or there will be another crash.
The problem isn't that games budgets are increasing(unless the game doesn't make back that) it's just that these companies focus on JUST those size games/games with that budget. If more of these companies started to fund smaller games alongside these big budget games we would see them doing ok or being able to sustain such high costs. Making smaller sprite/ 8 bit Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest games or help smaller IPs get greenlit.
There were some smaller games (Octopath e.g.) made by SE, which were primarly made for Switch. But they did seem to not sell that well. Didn't help that they never really marketed them outside of the Switch. I just learnt today, that these games released on Steam.
@@LG555 But see a game like Octopath probably only has to sell maybe half a million to break even and start making a profit. Thats the reason it's smart to invest more in games like OT. They have quicker turnaround and can profit much quicker and essentially function like an indie game. Indie games can have huge success fairly quickly because of budget restraints. Big companies like SE should start putting value on small games and what can be made from them than just the heavy hitters.
Also I realize there are smaller games made by these companies but not enough focus is put on them especially when you look at advertising.
@@captaindestruction9332 like I said, outside of Nintendo Directs, I never heard of OT 1 or 2, Live a Live or Triangle Strategy.
Square released more smaller and AA games then their big AAA, problem is the games were mostly crap and didn’t sell well, all of their big directors want to make the big games, Star ocean, valkyrie elysium, octopath, Babylons fall, livealive… not like they can spend big money marketing these games too if they spend as much as those big titles on marketing and they still don’t sell they are in a bigger hole… I don’t think they need smaller games they don’t seem to be great in the AA space, and only ok in the 16bit octopath style games, they need to focus on what they are good at and release at least on pc at the same time with the big titles and they will be ok.
@@initialfd-3716 focus on what their good at? I'm okay with that, since it means less live service slop from them.
Knicks roster vs videogames industry. Both are hurting badly.
😂
@kirbstomp4484 I wanted to try to lend additional morale support for. RGT. I do look forward to Hart and Donte coming off the bench to bolster the depth.
The thing is, it isn’t going to sell on Xbox. If it comes to Microsoft, they’ll just put it on GamePass.
The real question is if it’s timed exclusivity or if they’ll have to pay a fee to break the contract
This is good news! I am a fan of the ps5 sure. But only for the exclusives. I HATE exclusives. I have everything so I can play everything. I am also a pc user, and switch occasionally. Time and time again when companies go multi plat they immediately see success. Look at Atlus for example. They have received a huge influx of players for their games when they went multi plat. It does drive success. Idk what these devs are doing. 🤷♂️
This the way they should go
So no one’s going to bring up that part 3 of the FF7 remake project will likely be a PlayStation exclusive?
What are the chances SE gets acquired sooner than later? If they are pumping out games, turning a profit while having exclusives, and whoever has capital right now is drooling.
what's up RGT 85!
FF VII Rebirth on Xbox? Oh yeah, it's all coming together 😎🤓
Not Xbox.. it might skip that system..
Yeah they are looking to make money not lose it. It cost money to port
Lol it's gonna sell significantly more on Switch 2 and PC
Honestly, I think many companies spend waaayyy to much time and resources on graphics.
8:40 And you SHOULD, @RGT85! It's a gem, a hidden gem. So underrated.
Nothing gives me hope like a corporate deck labeled: Ensured "Fun."
There are no such problemes on the Evercade.
Seriously. I'm about to fully endorse evercade.
@@DamienThimons-rv1wj Just the good stuff, no WOKE games.
i feel like this is something they've should've done a long time ago, KH on epic was already arguably eyebrow raising enough and then when it dropped on switch that's where i feel like alot of people really started to question their choices, crisis core remake on switch but not FF7R has never really sat right with me, crisis core from what i've heard is one of those hit or miss games, but it's just odd to have the remake on switch and not FF7R, people will probably say "just play the og FF7" and i have it's my fav game of all time now, but my point is there's another argument to be made here as well which is "they should've ported the og crisis core", but me rambling somewhat only proves how odd it is when it comes to square's recent choices
💐💐 In My Opinion , It’s About Damn Time Square Enix , You Should Have Done This Ages Ago !!!! . I see Square Enix Going Multi-Platform As A Smart And Excellent Idea Because I Believe Cross-Platform Is The Way Of The Future !!!! . I think Exclusives are Outdated and only hurt the gaming industry not help it !!!! . 💐💐
“We’re hemorrhaging money, what do we do? Fix what’s wrong with our titles? Ditch consumer unfriendly elements gamers don’t want, stuff like NFT’s??”
*Devote time, effort and resources to port games to a platform where the userbase has been conditioned to not buy games and instead wait for a gamepass drop or else not play it at all.*
I have been subbed to gamepass for years, and will buy intergrade and rebirth the MINUTE they drop on xbox
What are you talking about? PS Plus Premium is $160 a year and doesn't have any of the games in their "Classics" catalog to even come near justifying that price. 99% of my PS games are Physical and that isn't changing any time soon. Really need to get off those Sony hating PC Bro forums. It's clearly rotting your brain, for lack of a better word.
The age of exclusives is over. Games cost way too much money to develop nowadays. The budgets are getting insane.
I’m a PS5 guy but even I see they need to go multiplatform. Why limit your fan base when you can reach them on multiple consoles & PC
Both final fantasy 16 & FF7 should be enjoyed by many, not just limited to the PS5
The fire thumbnail get repetitive 🥺
Xbox and to some degree Sony are having their wiiU era
This is good news so when Switch 2 arrives playing FF7 Remake and FF7 Rebirth would be great
My problem is the 100 hr rpgs are awesome, but i only have time for 1 or 2 a year so i can wait for sales on these games
I don’t think us PS5 owners are going to be annoyed. Means Square can continue making good games and more people enjoy them. No one looses here.
*loses
@@stevenwasik3369 alright mate you get my point.
Rumors saying ff7 remake is coming to switch 2
Theres a few Square games Id buy if available to me.
I aint even mad, I dont want to see anymore studios closing down
I'm tired of people saying Xbox players don't buy games. Plenty of people bought Elden Ring and Hogwarts: Legacy. This notion that people don't buy games on Xbox has no scientific backing. People keep pointing to "sales charts" but ignore the fact that the only publicly available charts are physical only in the United Kingdom. Xbox is predominantly digital.
You’re trying to convince yourself at this point. Xbox owners don’t buy games and that’s facts.
@@chuckberry1240 I bought Elden Ring and Armored Core 6 last month 😂
@@chuckberry1240 Based on what evidence? Bandai-Namco and Capcom wouldn't port their games if they didn't sell.
Muh game pass blah blah blah
@@jackstover1439if that’s the case why is Activision having a huge issue with putting Cod on gamepass, why is most publishers shying away from Gamepaas
anothe day in the life of a nintnedo youtuber
He is not a Nintendo CZcamsr
If that happens I’m going to celebrate no more square enix games only on PlayStation finally on every console
Been a bargin bin dad for past 10 yrs because of how expensive gaming is, glad to see I'm not the only one.
Sony is dead.
How Sony is Dead lol everyone win with multi platform. Xbox is Dead you mean
@@antariuswilliams6217neither are dead
@@dimes305 I know I just messing with him. I know both not dead. I do know the gaming industry not the same like it was back then everything has change.