Why Being an NBA Player Is SO Much Harder Than You Think!
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2023
- "You don't realize how hard the NBA is until you're really in the NBA." -- Donte DiVincenzo, Golden State Warriors
This week's Point Forward podcast, co-hosted as always by Andre Iguodala and Evan Turner, features a special guest, Andre's teammate and former MOP of the Final Four, Donte DiVincenzo. In this clip, Donte's discusses the many in-season reasons that being in the NBA is physically and mentally challenging. Full episode: • Donte DiVincenzo on Wa...
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"I would play the game for free...you get paid for the bullshit that come with being in the NBA"-Dennis Rodman
This is a Junior Seau Philosophy Rodney Harrison told a great story about Junior mentoring him and how vital that explanation was to hear at the time.
he's not complaining, he just saying its harder than you think.
Yeah I mean I think he's making better money than he would be otherwise
@@Csks dang lad I haven’t heard that name in awhile rip to juniour seau very underrated player
Rodman is a dam madman though.
Damn Evan Turner with the Jump Scare 🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣 I was not expecting that nigga to show up
LMAO
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes
Mf got a mean grin on em
I was looking for that comment bro real talk , it got me too
Donte: "I'm so tired and exhausted, and i still have to be so productive"
Meanwhile Evan turner: 😀
Lol
Actually it was
Donte: "I remember i played in a g league game..you drive back and you playing an nba game at night
Evan: 😃
More like: 👹
@@rapturedreams6922 more like 👽 imo mf talk like Stitch or Kermit the Frog lmao
Cos he been retired and got himself a nice bag from Portland knowing damn well he was overpaid!
Reporter: He’s the first in, last one to leave. What an inspirational story of dedication.
Player: Nah, coach had a gun to my head.
It’s funny how blown hardworking people are when you tell them how hard they work. It’s just a reminder of what they didn’t wanna do
OhThEyWoRkHaRdFoRMoNeY?????? DAWWWEEEEEEE POOR BABIES !
@@R6Acee shut up cornball
@@R6Acee bruh what’re u talking abt 😂
@@smallcheddar3012 to translate what they said
“They have to work hard for money, the poor babies.”
Sarcasm.
That first cut to Evan Turner 😂
Turner came out of no where wtf 😂💀
Mf legitimately scared me 😂
I threw the phone away tf lmao
You should be thankful it wasn’t Dennis Rodman, or Patrick Ewing
“😀Yeah” 🤣🤣
I almost spit out my orange juice when he popped up
Legend has it, Andre Iguodala is still saying “right”
And turner is still staring with a smile
Right
Legend has it, people retired the phrase “legend has it” in 2023.
@@BeingConsciousness-yw3zw LEGEND has it that it’s coming out of retirement early couldn’t stay sitting on the sideline for too long 🙃🙃🙃
@@YAHdiEL you don’t make anyone laugh in real life do you lmao
Evan Turner just happy to be there 😭
smiling big as hell
Evan's a legend in Columbus, clutch, played 10 years in the league and signed 3 contracts for just under $100 million. You clowns are watching him on YT and posting emojis like 14 year old girls.
Shout out to Iggy for just letting him talk without interruption
That’s part of why NBA players make millions. For the grind of the schedule, the practices, press conferences… There’s a lot involved. Still a hell of a lot better than the daily grind that many people have just to make $40k a year. I’ll take being exhausted and rich over exhausted and scraping by any day.
They get paid a lot bc of tv deals & only having 12 man roster. These players r getting overpaid
These dudes don't deserve generational wealth guy..
Fans come to see them play and they get a part of the ticket sales, jersey sales, etc...
@@MrMikeyboy4What are you talking about? Inform yo self. The leagues policy is to split 50/50 w the players.. most of their salary comes from ticket revenue and jerseys. The popularity is the reason they make so much
And they deserve every last penny,you go ahead and do what they do at their level and tell me they deserve less pay again
@@KochTalathey work years and years for it they definitely do
I know they get paid well, but for every player making 10 million a year, there's 1,000 guys playing semi-pro for like 40k a year, working out and playing ball around the clock, and working at Walmart to pay bills. So once you make it, you know there's 1,000 guys trying to take your job every year. There are a ton of demands on their time, and they are still human.
I’m one of them
@@cesargonzalez3247 don´t stop man
1,000 more like 1000,000
Learn a trade and get a job. Life doesn’t owe you anything.
Ok but he’s not semi-pro. he’s in the nba on 2 year 9 million dollar contract; he should prolly leave it to one of those guys to make this argument.
I live in the Philippines and we had a 6'10", 350lbs player who got an opportunity to train with an NBA team. He was pretty good here. After just a few months of training in the NBA, he lost a ton of weight and was like warshocked when he got back. The travel, practice and training is killer. WIthout proper trainers and nutrition, you'd just be running on fumes.
It gets easier with performance enhancing drugs, which they do. Otherwise there's no way they can sustain that many matches in a season. Eurobasket is way harder and its real basketball.
@@daviddubois4051 lol good one
@@daviddubois4051 Willy Hernangomez was the Eurobasket MVP in 2022 lol.
@@daviddubois4051bruh euro basketball yeah good fucking joke that shit is not harder than the nba
@@NyQuilDonutLmaoo that’s the guy that played for the Pelicans right?
Mental toughness is crazy cause imagine doing all that work ,you workout, practice, eat practice ,game but then you lose the game, you just gotta shake it offf
then have assholes talk junk online
💯💯💯
Most men have worked much much harder in the fields and in mechanic shops etc. its the story of manhood. And its a great one. We are built for struggle. Gives us purpose. I don’t even think he was complaining as much as just letting ppl know
Working out, practicing basketball, eating, and playing basketball games is faaaar from “work” my guy. That sounds like what an actual working man would do on his weekend bro😂😂. Soooo much mental toughness in order to keep playing the game that they LOVE? Yeah right.
Yeah it’s called being a Man.
NBA is full of skillful players but not all has NBA game IQ and lastly not all can handle fame well and in a right manner. I love Donte my favourite Italian NBA Player 😊.
He's American
@@molywop510 yes hes American but he’s heritage is Italian 😊
@@mary_krishnan91600 His surnames Italian but he looks more Slavic or Irish. His eyes are the only part that look Italian
He’s not Italian, he’s clearly American
Italians from Italy are confused about what American Italians have done with the culture. You guys say none of the words correctly and pretend your authentic but legit just a water down trailer park Jersey shore fake tanned version .
I like when ppl expose the default to a “good story”. THAT’s keeping it real.
This made me think of what Pat said when he said something of the lines of half the guys don’t actually love basketball.
If you're 7 feet tall and athletic it's among your best career options
Which Pat? Playoff Pat, or Riley?
Bruh Turner coming out of nowhere with that smile 💀💀
Rookies literally get no time off until after season one. They leave the college game and immediately get ready for the draft a month later, then the draft is late June or early July, then Summer League, then ProAm Circuit, then training camp in late September.
Waa. They are still playing a game for 6-7 figures.
Ok its a job
@@Ivantheterrible81280 well, many people are willing to pay money to watch them play a game 😂
@@NeoAndersonReloaded a job millions of people wish they could have too.. these guys get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars even millions of dollars and then cry about it being “hard” 🤣
@@Zvxny666 If you got paid that same amount of money to do what they did I guarantee you’d share the same sentiments as them.
I think people waking up and going to they job and still being poor is way harder but that’s just me tho
everything’s about moneyyy. everythinggggg
Poor is a mindset not everyone is poor
@Tyler Fabian Poor can be a mindset but there are genuinely people who are under privileged and just don't have things/money.
Yes that’s harder but it doesn’t mean what he’s saying isn’t hard. Everyone has challenges and we all have to figure out the challenge.
@@tylerfabian507 Only poor people say something this stupid
I can sympathise. I played professionally for two seasons and you are aching all the time. Knee hurting, back hurting. You are tired, fatigued all the time and guess what, you stop enjoying basketball, it becomes a grind. And those were two seasons without any injuries. That must be even harder. Yes, these guys make a lot of money, but they pay a price for it.
Cap. Who are you?
@@IamNotTrey😂😂
What pro league did you play in? And where’d you play college ball?
I love that Donte shows love to Steph wearing his brand ❤
He probably ain't buying no clothes. Lol
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It's extremely difficult, which is why only the best of the best and most talented make it. I give them a lot of props. Most these guys have been hooping hardcore since they were 12 year olds too, so I know they're tired. But hey man- that's life. You gotta grind, and being an NBA player is one of the greatest job in the world.
That nigga turner came outta nowhere wtf. 😭😭😭
That true in every line of work. Whatever trade or profession your in. The daily grind sets up your long term results.
“No one trust donte devenchinzo except mrs devenchinzo” ~ Nick Wright 🤣
These types of vids help me understand why so many players respected Kobe
People say they shouldn't say nothing because they are getting paid millions to play a game but don't realize that playing professional sports is hard freaking work. If your name is on the back of an NBA jersey that means you had what it takes and you put in the work to get your name on that jersey.
Only hard if u take it that way.. For millions it's SIMPLE
Who said other wise 😂 Nigga it’s not hard they just lazy
No point in explaining to people that being a world class athlete takes hard work. Some people just refuse to accept it. These are the type of people that say Michael Jordan was "just gifted". As if he wasn't putting in work on his own since he was a teenager. Most times it's people who haven't played sports, were just garbage at it and/or didn't have the drive to get better.
It harder to do construction, it’s harder to be a teacher, it’s harder to be a doctor, harder to be a Policemen, harder to be a fire fighter etc. They don’t get MILLIONS. you shouldn’t get millions to throw a ball around and have fun playing a Game.
@@Eddybih03 no it's not! Honorable as they are, none of those occupations require the work and talent needed to be a professional athlete. Becoming a surgeon is directionally correct, but anyone with the talent and dedication to become a surgeon is also compensated in the 1%.
I played D3 soccer, the daily grind and being physically in pain for months at a time is no joke. Definitely harder than being a working adult. Professional athletes have all that, crazy amount of travel and stress of potentially being replaced tomorrow. The majority don't make the millions, or have the job security of the stars.
If being a professional athlete is so easy, a lot more people would do it! And the average "career" would be longer than 3-5 years.
Shit I’ve been working 12hr shifts making a fraction of a nba player.. sign me up
That's how legends are made. The process can never be comfortable.
Great perspective, dude game is solid, he got hops and can create his shot off the dribble and a good spot up shooter. Glad he's getting minutes.
Ill take your spot bro
Be thankful for that motion.
I think the players who are trying to fight for a spot, having to go from g/d league to short contracts in the NBA, having to constantly put out 100% in everything they do so they stand out, not knowing if they’ll play another game…. Those are the people I completely agree with that they are grinding and working hard. NBA players who are solid in the nba in terms of their contract, they don’t have to worry about going anywhere, that’s not a “grind” that’s just a job, a job that requires you playing a game and making millions.
your not accounting for the production that goes into making it a “ job “ & btw nothing wrong with it being a “ job “
everything they do is caught on camera ( studying film ) so being a elite player would require tons of effort to just being productive game to game with the league’s & modern days tech constantly exposing flaws im your game & tendencies
@@lilredthabest lol what? I don’t think you understood what I wrote.
But these top players aren’t grinding anymore than most of your 9-5 workers. They just get to get paid millions for what they’re doing.
@@lilredthabest Not really bro, all they gotta do is practice, something a lot of people do for free lol
I couldn't imagine how hard it is.. college basketball was tough. Morning classes til 1.. practice at 2.. weights at 5.. sometimes at 5 am.. then you get to your dorm 6ish to eat and then do homework.. from August to march.. then off season til summer.. NBA is a whole other fuckin level. There's a reason why only 4500 people have ever played in the NBA
NBA is definetly easier than college basketball... considering they get paid millions and dont have any classes
@@brenetssssmuch more travel much more demanding schedule, still got to train and recover and practice. Not to mention it’s on a whole nother level in the nba. Higher comp, people trying to take your spot, etc.
Just a friendly reminder is okay to talk about your life in any capacity that you want. Even things you enjoy you can complain about. things you hate especially you can complain about. if people are telling you you're just complaining, guess what you have a right to and at the end of the day it's going to make you feel better. It's not like we're quitting and giving up it's just nice to talk about how hard it is sometimes without being treated like you're weak or otherwise.
Honestly that's most jobs that people love. Doing the actual core job could be fun. it's the other bs that comes with it. The endless meetings, the time reports, dealing with customers etc. My bro is a graphic designer. He would and does draw for free because he loves it but he only tolerates his job because of all the admin stuff.
It’s guys who work 40hr weeks at a warehouse. And still play basketball 5-6 days a week /2-3 hrs for FREE. I’m sure hooping and training 6 days a week for millions 5-6 hours a day ain’t bad
Except that warehouse worker isn’t anywhere close to an nba player and there’s millions of warehouse workers all over they ain’t in high demand
I played baseball up to college and I played basketball and football along the way…I tell my kids to this day that basketball is the most difficult sport in the world to make it professional. There’s only 12 players. You absolutely have to hit the genetic lottery in unique ways and stay healthy and be hyper-competitive and be hyper-devoted and have character. I grew up in Chicago with some freak athletes but so many just had crazy lives. I heard personal stories about certain “stars” and knew they couldn’t play at a high level.
There are some nba players that didn’t hit the genetic lottery. John Stockton and Steve Nash weren’t big or fast. Some guys can make it because of skill or being a specialist at shooting. But for the most part most nba players are athletic freaks
That’s how it is with football but more physical contact smh…..exhausting ash💯
I don't care if I gotta work 25/8, if I'm getting paid millions IM THERE
Showing up isn’t the job in the NBA 💀 it’s to actually play good, easier said then done
I took my GODSON to a basketball training clinic for young teenagers in February 2023. The Coach had the kids doing these drills where they had to pivot and spin to the basket, he was relentless about footwork, for about 1hour I sat there like "damn, I played basketball everyday in the neighborhood most summers in the 1990's, this stuff ain't no joke"!
That's why it's crazy to me that some streetballers and bottom tier college players think they can take on NBA players. There's nothing wrong with streetball by any means but it's just not the same.
Try working construction, 12 hour shifts
No matter rain hail or shine
Then go back to your gym and see if you still feel the same way
Its the cold that is killer, i just finished my 1st winter at outdoor job
Yea man I keep saying this, everytime I watch athletes I always think about the mental strain they go through. The competition and even the mind games the organizations put the players through. It’s really tough. I respect athletes and there’s something to learn from them
That’s why a lot of people retire early because the grind is what they are tired of, not the game!
It’s one of the most difficult things in the world to achieve, there is quite literally a barrier to entry just off height, so that eliminates 90% of population, then you take into account the fact there is only 400 players out of billions of people, it’s nearly impossible to make it, you have to survive injuries, and beat out competition, and naturally have height by default. It’s incredibly rare, which is why I respect those who make it, and got no respect for those who take it for granted, like bums like Ben simmons
it’s really not if you have the height, since that knocks out 90% of the competition. trying to make it as a world class soccer player in one of Europe’s top 5 leagues makes getting into the nba look like a side mission. since you aren’t easily disposable in the nba if you start dropping your performances since lack of competition for your spot and only a couple ways to get into the league.
@@crisgonzalez3757 damn I wish all those cut and failed NBA players, G league guys and college players that never made it to the pros knew they weren’t easily disposable.
Got a lot of respect for divincenzo after these play offs.
Good for you
making millions of dollars to play a game must be really hard 😢
Did you not hear what he had to say
There’s only like 500 players in the nba goofy let’s see you do it coming from your sales job
Players with MJ and Kobe mindsets we may never see again
Jimmy Butler seems to have that mindset too and you also have to remember some players might have the mentality but not the talent as others. Remember that sometimes hard work doesn’t mean that you’ll have the same success as others.
Ever!
I’m pretty sure they complained too , they just didn’t say it to the public
Welcome to the Knicks Boi 🏀💪💯
302 Dante. Much love from Delaware keep putting on making history!!!!!!!!!!
This is why you shouldn’t ONE AND DONE IN COLLEGE
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It’s how dedicated are you ??? This is something we ALL go thru in life wether we realize it or not !!
No we don’t lmao.
@@newrecruit100 Lmfaoo okay 👍🏾
@@benfresh4297 what you said actually makes me think
@@newrecruit100stop being a bum and get a job
@@benfresh4297 it’s different being physically exhausted all day running, lifting, playing multiple games, it will test your mental more so than any normal job would
ONE THING IS TO SAY IT ANOTHER THING IS TO LIVE WITH SUCH CODE CONSISTENCY MATTERS
Imma be straight what do people expect, we're talking about the best of the best your gonna habe to do a lot of extra shit to perform at that level especially when you consider the pay that follows
alot of respect for him he may not be an all star but hes a great player at the end of the day and thats why he's on track to winning his 2nd ring
Boy stop. Golden state aint making it past the Lakers bruh. And donte is a decent role player he IS NOT GREAT..... At least not yet. But i like donte all the way back to his first year at villinova
Donte is a brother. You can tell the way my boy talk and his swag.
He has brother named John
Yea I met him a few times
His family lives in Delaware
YOOO WAHT UP DAWGGG!!!!
Corny comment smh
@@dsg3053 Corny enough to get you to comment. Yikes. 😬
Donte DiVincenzo one of the better role players in this league, he can score and plays amazing defense. Could see him on some all defensive teams with the Knicks
Evan turner pop up was wild 😊😂
"How do you want me to be productive, when i'm exhausted."👐😉
You have to grind to play basketball professionally cuz they’re not gonna pay you millions of dollars a year to be a scrub 😂😂
So klay Thompson?
@@jayus2033 be fr bro.
Love how he's wearing stephs underrated trackie
To make an impact in whatever you choose to do you gotta put in 12+ hours of pure focus. Sht bruh even a regular job gets exhausting no matter how easy it is just from
doing the same thing
to seeing the same thing constantly..
Poor them :(
GREAT INTERVIEW!
Kept it real
That’s called working a job no matter what it is, difference is that you’re making millions and we’re not
i can nearly guarantee the nba grind is more taxing than you’re job
They only “work” for half the year and get paid millions, stay in the nicest hotels in the world, and eat the best food. But please continue to tell me how difficult it is
@@Ryan-wf5ns lmao you should just walk around life with the word ‘ignorant’ on your head.
@@newrecruit100you should take your own advice
@@alligatoreater4528the sports grind is always fun up until the pros. Why do y’all do that? It’s not a grind when it’s middle or high school kids trying to make it, shit even college kids. Why does it automatically become this terrible grind when someone goes pro? It’s always been a grind to even fucking get there. What y’all fail to realize is that’s it’s a fun grind. Sports grind and working a job with a designated shift everyday are two totally different grinds. I’d much rather put in 8 hours of hooping and lifting than doing a job. Can you comprehend that?
One year of ur salary bud and im set for life smh.
It is because if you not that game to begin with you gotta show that you are built for the constant grind and that you are ready to outlast the other guys. There so many guys coming out of colleges, overseas, and so on that are just as good as you. And if you not lebron or Kobe or a perennial all star than how are you gonna stand out? Prove it and earn it.
Iguodala be like: “yea that’s why I DNP - old for my last season, I’m tired fr”
So fellas, the lesson here is clear. THERE IS NO EASY WAY OUT. There is no way to make money that’s just chill and easy.
If it’s not politics, it’s other things.
Go for what makes money and do what you love on the side. It’s perfect if what you love also makes money.
yup. crypto is about the only shot at getting rich quick with low effort
I've always thought about this. Its a 82 game season + playoffs. They are literally playing every other day. During their days off, they are travelling/practicing/rehabbing. If they are a star player, you get added responsibility of talking to media after every game. They don't have the weekend to look forward to like the rest of us folks. With whatever "free" time they have, the pressure of social media is around, so they gotta be careful with what they do in public, or who might be filming them.
These dudes might have the fame and all the money, but with it comes a completely different life with its own set of problems. Mad respect for the hoopers out there.
Must be hard having May-August off and then playing basketball the rest of the year.
They still work very hard in the offseason
@@theuncancelable Practice might be tiring but its definetly easier than the bs 9-5 workers gotta deal with
@@brenetssss Nah
@@brenetssssjust not true lol there’s millions of people able to work a minimum wage job there’s only 500 people in the nba
That's the price you pay for greatness in almost any industry, but the NBA is that facet magnified to every degree.
NBA rookie minimum salary is almost $1M . You better fkn work hard. And not complain too.
Dante D of the GS Warriors?
Sallies boy what's good? Reppin for Wilmington, keep up the good work
People on here complaining and shit but it's call PAYING YOUR DUES. Every player goes thru the grind the hype jobs gotta put on the fake smile when they don't want to and deal with the expectation to win and be great. As a role player you gotta earn your spot that's sports period
Imagine having to work 2 full time jobs just to scrape by and be behind on your bills. Not saying they dont work hard but when they're making that kind of money nobody cares. We all work hard but we all don't get paid
But theres millions of people right behind them that can do those same 2 jobs that’s the difference there ain’t many good enough for the nba
Poor guy gets paid millions of dollars to work hard and do something he loves 😢 I feel so bad for him
Poor guy gotta shoot hoops all day, i feel so bad for him, must be so hard 😫😫
@@brenetssss Fr Lmaooo
Definitely see where he’s coming from but damn, me personally I’d love to play my favourite sport as a career and get paid six figures to do it. It’s every hoopers dream.
I have to play basketball all day for millions of Dollars a year in my 20s, my life is so hard. 😭
Cause you get paid and it's an elite system I feel him tho it's gotta be tough but that's what u signed up for my boy
The type of $ they getting paid would motivate me to give 1000%
Welcome to the NBA. Grown man business.
Donte hooping good Rn
Wish y’all knew how cold he was In High school. Delaware legend
What's his name?
@@common_wolfDonte Divincenzo, the Michael Jordan of Delaware
Man quit lying wtf…. Dude averaged 15 points as a junior and 22 as a senior why you lying for??? MJ was a 28 pt triple double as a senior GTFOH. He was one of the most average players in the nation in high school he was not like that… smfh 🧢
Bro is a true steph fan he has curry’s merch on😊
it's his teammate..he prolly got that shit for free 😂
@@caroo367 yea that true 😂
And this is a testament to all the guys in the nba who don't play or get play time but they do the work the 15 man on the bench work harder then you ever could and would go 20-21 in the rec wit normal people who think they hoopers
This is awesome
No wonder NBA player stay hurt.
They been doing this. Only difference is they used to travel commercial and on team busses and didn’t have 25 physical therapists in the locker room
Sorry about all the basketball you have to play. Life is hard.
facts plus tax
Bro got into the NBA and found out he actually gotta play basketball and practice to get paid 😱😱😱😱
I made a web API for a D1 college player and his schedule was soo busy I was humbled! Non stop working, traveling, and cameras in your grill. Can't even imagine a NBA players schedule.
Legend has it that when Iggy was asked to retire he said: "Right"
Poor dude is paid multi-millions to work hard 😢
This is what makes LeBrons career more special. 20+ years of greatness
Oh really I thought it was easy being an NBA player, thanks for letting us know!
Every job that pays allot expects allot. Guys on the bench should still be happy in life. Keep working hard, but always appreciate your blessings.
NBA 2 way contract doesn’t pay much only around $80,000 and you do twice the work. You play in G league game and play NBA game in the same day.
@@ajye8935 That, and your performance in literally 3 minutes at the end of the game when the lead is either entirely lost or you’re winning by 20, is what decides whether or not you get cut or traded.
You always hear about the guys who make it but there are probably thousands of guys like Austin Reaves and Lonnie Walker who were just never given a chance. I’m surprised Patrick Beverley can even find teams to sign him, it seems like nobody in the league values straight up hard work and defensive effort anymore.
It’s even harder than ever to get minutes nowadays since the game basically requires you to be a 6’5+ positionless player and nearly everybody has to be a knockdown shooter unless the rest of your game can massively compensate for it in some way.
Of course you don't realize until you're there... how the fuck else would you know ?
He came one season too late He contributed a lot this season Dude almost deserves last year’s ring