The Reused Music of Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal

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  • čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
  • David Bergeaud's soundtrack for Ratchet 3 does something that no others of his do. Theft. Well, is it really theft if it's your own compositions? Anyway, the soundtracks got some reused songs, so lets look at them shall we?
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    0:00 - Introductions
    0:53 - Station Q9 - Annihilation Nation
    2:08 - Zeldrin - Crash Site
    3:01 - Mylon - Command Center
    5:33 - Rilgar - Blackwater City
    6:25 - Kerwan - Metropolis
    10:33 - Conclusions
  • Hry

Komentáře • 165

  • @GMMReviews
    @GMMReviews Před 2 lety +97

    What you referred to as *"more dynamic range"* is literally just the song being in Stereo. The OST for R&C1 was in mono for some reason, whereas 2, 3, and Deadlocked's were in stereo.

    • @zoqin
      @zoqin Před 2 lety +8

      Stereo is not the only difference that give the depth to the dynamic range, the mixing is just way better

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      @feetyeet8538 Před 7 měsíci

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  • @derangedtangerine4731
    @derangedtangerine4731 Před 3 lety +145

    you forgot to mention the boss music from Station Q9 was taken from rac 1, it was from the jet fighter section on Pokitaru

    • @Ratchetti
      @Ratchetti Před 3 lety +8

      Started watching this video and I knew he would miss that one xd

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow Před rokem +1

      They also forgot to mention Ratchet and Clank 1 and 2 music is actually sampling and mixing of an already existing album! The music of Ratchet and Clank is not original music lol I love the series but you have to acknowledge this fact!

    • @feder373
      @feder373 Před rokem +1

      ​@@DANCERcowCould you provide the name of that album, please? I'm curious.

    • @Devixicus
      @Devixicus Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@DANCERcowHuh? The soundtracks use a lot of samples but all the compositions are original. That's kinda like saying Van Gogh didn't make original paintings because he got the paint from somebody else.

  • @iloveketchup20
    @iloveketchup20 Před 3 lety +109

    You went to the beach to rant about the Ratchet and Clank soundtrack.
    I love it! Earned a sub :)

  • @xmixraven8633
    @xmixraven8633 Před 3 lety +41

    The reason for a lot of the multiplayer tracks being reused from Going Commando is because the development for the multiplayer actually began even before the game was finalised, there was a rush to get it out purely for the historical reason of being one of the first online multiplayer console games, a week before halo 2. Which meant a lot of cut corners.

  • @SirGary
    @SirGary Před 3 lety +63

    Really cool and interesting video. Good job!

    • @Kalash_99
      @Kalash_99 Před 2 lety

      Vaya vaya que tal mi pana? :)

  • @LordRaptor
    @LordRaptor Před 3 lety +30

    You forgot Annihilation Nation's boss theme which is a repurposed Pokitaru Dogfight theme from R&C1, but quite honestly works really, just as well in it's new home.
    I think the Kerwan remix is unbelievably cool, it gives not only a sense of much greater danger, but also the feeling of familiarity while making me get the sense that the city I'm visiting is older now, you can feel the age of the level as there are more layers to the main part of the track now, with the bass taking a much more noticeable role, it really makes me feel like the two main characters are seasoned veterans, which, they are at that point.

  • @ii7soOon933
    @ii7soOon933 Před 3 lety +34

    Great video and perfect editing
    You forgot the dogfight in the Rac1 on planet Pokitaru the legend David he reused in UYA in the Station Q9 -arena boss

    • @VersionGamma
      @VersionGamma  Před 3 lety +25

      god fucking dammit how did I miss that

  • @Asaylum117
    @Asaylum117 Před 2 lety +10

    I really love the PS2 Ratchet & Clank games & the music by David Bergeaud really is just memorable. When I think of Ratchet & Clank in general, I always think of the classic Metropolis theme from the first game. Considering how good the music was from those games, makes me wish he composed the score for Ratchet & Clank Future Trilogy on the PS3. It's not just the same without David's score.

    • @ZPixel17
      @ZPixel17 Před rokem +2

      The only Future trilogy game he didn't compose for was A Crack in Time. I think starting with Tools of Destruction there was a shift towards more orchestral sound, which in my opinion made it less distinct than the PS2 games. The Metropolis theme in ToD is absolutely amazing though

  • @nikotapola5264
    @nikotapola5264 Před 3 lety +29

    Damn I’ve wondered for years, where in RaC UYA I’ve heard similar music to the Aranos Releasing your ship. Now I know. Thanks for that. Great video. Keep it up.
    And btw I want that shirt.

    • @VersionGamma
      @VersionGamma  Před 3 lety +6

      You'll have to pry it off my cold, dead corpse.
      Or make one custom, that's what I did, but whatever suits you

    • @nikotapola5264
      @nikotapola5264 Před 3 lety

      @@VersionGamma I tried to think for a long time what do you mean, but I forgot my comment about that shirt. Maybe I gotta make one too.

  • @yesianyeha7479
    @yesianyeha7479 Před 3 lety +31

    Holy damn lord, this is one of the best videos that i've ever seen, the script is amazing, the voice and camera are insane, and the editing blew my mind, dude, this is waaaaay under rated, and the topic and opinions are very good, i agree with them!, i hope that you get a shitton of views from the ratchet's fandom and from other people, keep on going these content is nuts!

  • @RedStriker212
    @RedStriker212 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The other reason the Snagglebeast boss theme fits so well has to do with the plot: In RaC 1, it plays when we've had that last little "never meet your heroes" moment with Quark as he betrays us. In RaC 3, this plays at the crash site of where we suspect Quark died, only to find out that he still lives (betraying everyone's trust). One of the best reuses in the whole game imo.

  • @saladpuncher8436
    @saladpuncher8436 Před 2 lety +9

    Sick video! Never thought someone would take a look at such a specific topic, it's nice to see the fanbase is so dedicated.
    One thing I'm surprised you didn't mention is the fact that the RAC1 OST is entirely in Mono - the only Stereo tracks are a couple demo tracks and the UYA remixes! I think that might be why, as you said, some of the original tracks feel a bit more "flat"

  • @Mathias4595
    @Mathias4595 Před 3 lety +21

    Sneaky throwing in techniques like lag jumps and neutral long jumps, shows you were once a speedrunner, nice
    If only you'd done a whip jump on Zeldrin or Metropolis lol
    Also greetings fellow Kiwi

  • @Skehrcros
    @Skehrcros Před 3 lety +2

    Always happy to see more R&C content on CZcams. Love the editing and presentation, subbed!

  • @Mixmitch1
    @Mixmitch1 Před 3 lety +1

    Bro, these shots are so good! Great video and cool shirt.

  • @Visstnok
    @Visstnok Před 2 lety

    Really well-made and interesting vid. Also like the Pokitaru backdrop!

  • @chopsuey004
    @chopsuey004 Před rokem

    I like the production behind these videos, keep up the good work :)

  • @Yak0666
    @Yak0666 Před 3 lety +5

    Dude, you deserve wayyyy more subs and views. This video was well made and was a blast to watch!

  • @TwixersTwingersnap
    @TwixersTwingersnap Před 2 lety +1

    Danm, this is an excellent vid my dude. looking forward to more goodness from this channel

  • @aperson4184
    @aperson4184 Před rokem

    You deserve more views. This is some really good content. Well done

  • @RiftRipper
    @RiftRipper Před 3 lety +1

    Just discovered your Ratchet and Clank videos. I've always reflected on the aesthetics and intent behind the original quadrilogy and am really happy to see that there are people out there that understand and appreciate the series in a similar way. You've done David Bergeaud's composition a great service and am really looking forward to more content.

  • @donovanfields10
    @donovanfields10 Před 2 lety +2

    This needs more exposure, great video

  • @RubenBrackman
    @RubenBrackman Před 3 lety +13

    Great video!
    This will probably pop-up in the recommended of ratchet fans at some point.

    • @Bakuham
      @Bakuham Před 2 lety +1

      It's me I'm the ratchet fan

  • @josuepon0318
    @josuepon0318 Před 3 lety

    I’ve been waiting for someone to make a video like this, great video!

  • @AdamMura
    @AdamMura Před 2 lety

    Really well made video man good job

  • @diogoterranova94
    @diogoterranova94 Před 3 lety +5

    Great vídeo. Slick editing. Keep make content like this. I think you may be going far. The CZcams algorithm is already helping you since this video got suggested to me out of nowhere.

  • @braedonlittrell9644
    @braedonlittrell9644 Před 3 lety +3

    This was a very cool and well made video! I just subbed :)

  • @BuckoBean29
    @BuckoBean29 Před 2 lety +2

    Fantastic video! I’m glad people are making in depth videos on the soundtrack because that was one of the best parts of the original PS2 games.

  • @antoniobento6813
    @antoniobento6813 Před 2 lety

    Great video man I'm amazed at the effort you place on your videos! Great work :D

  • @thesamfizz
    @thesamfizz Před 3 lety +1

    Very nice video! Your takes on the soundtracks are interesting and presented well. Subscribed, hope this reaches more people.

  • @sanjum2475
    @sanjum2475 Před 2 lety

    Very high quality and super interesting - subscriber gained!

  • @normietwiceremoved
    @normietwiceremoved Před 3 lety +3

    The difference between Mylon's music and Drek's fleet music is the fact that Mylon's in stereo when all the Ratchet 1 music was in mono.

    • @RanDieBam
      @RanDieBam Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah. The most important about summing a track to mono is: Whichever content is NOT in the center, gets turned down. Like, by default, not by choice. Thus, if a melody sits in the right of the stereo field, it's gonna be more quiet in the stereo version!

  • @cookieschreiber2601
    @cookieschreiber2601 Před 2 lety +3

    From what I understood, RnC 3 was made under heavy crunch with a very troubled production. That's why you see so many less alternate paths, no grindrail sections etc in the game.
    It'd make sense they'd want to cut corners where they could including in the music. Could of course also have been for budgetary reasons.
    Less money spent on new tracks is more money for the rest of the very strained production.

  • @upmyarsenal3969
    @upmyarsenal3969 Před 3 lety

    What a video ! I love the fact that you're dealing with non-spoken subjects about the franchise ! And the video is really well made with good stuff. And beside that, we're feeling that it comes from a fan of the serie, reallygood job !!

  • @InsanityPrevails
    @InsanityPrevails Před rokem +1

    God.. The music from the original R&C trilogy is just S O G O O D.
    It hurts when I listen to it for some reason though. Think it's nostalgia, and realizing that those times are long gone and even if I replay them, it'll never be the same..

  • @leroysteveson38
    @leroysteveson38 Před 2 lety

    God this channel is the perfect niche I love, surprises me how you don’t have more subs

  • @vergil5403
    @vergil5403 Před 3 lety

    this channel is really underrated ! I hope you get the recognition you deserve with the quality of your videos, I'm glad youtube recommended this video to me

  • @rainbowsuplex6057
    @rainbowsuplex6057 Před 2 lety +1

    How do you only have one thousand subs??? Based on the quality of this content I would've thought you had way more subs

  • @JonathanQShrimpling
    @JonathanQShrimpling Před 3 lety +1

    This channel is gonna blow up soon, I can feel it

  • @literalcharlie4171
    @literalcharlie4171 Před 3 lety +6

    This was really cool. I didn't know about all these songs being reused. I'm going to have to pay special attention during Rift Apart!

  • @Xkaappi
    @Xkaappi Před 3 lety

    Wow really great video. Hope to see your channel blow up someday. Well done ^^

  • @TippyPhoenix35
    @TippyPhoenix35 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video! Also, at 8:23 you mentioned the guitar riffs - I'm not entirely sure of their purpose either (albeit they're a fantastic addition), but I personally associate them with the Tyhrranoids, since they appear in the songs for Veldin, Rilgar and Kerwan, and all 3 levels have you defending against a Tyhrranoid invasion. Having said that though, I'm not sure why they don't appear in similar levels, like on Aridia.

  • @lgrcen2008
    @lgrcen2008 Před rokem

    How did i only just discover these? They are excelent. Also i need your shirt.

  • @xXSonyKilerXx
    @xXSonyKilerXx Před rokem

    Man I never noticed that for some reason, that's awesome !
    Also I want that MegaCorp shirt pls.

  • @TheIronicTea
    @TheIronicTea Před 2 lety

    amazing video, subbed

  • @cameronjohnson918
    @cameronjohnson918 Před 2 lety +2

    Interesting vid exploring the differences between the reused and original tracks, but I think most of the reasons for reused tracks was due to the time constraints with creating the 3rd game.
    Also, I really liked that you recorded outside. It was a pretty location and it really differentiated you from other video essayists.

  • @sokerestarhuehue2296
    @sokerestarhuehue2296 Před 3 lety +3

    Found this random lol, but surprised :D Great video!

  • @pako_powr
    @pako_powr Před 2 lety +1

    Sick video + sick megacorp t-shirt

  • @Admiralzzz_
    @Admiralzzz_ Před 2 lety

    Damn, this is some lit RaC content. Keep it up, champ!

  • @bortz1506
    @bortz1506 Před 2 lety

    You've been selected by CZcams's algorithm. And I've never thought finding a RAC soundtrack recycling video. Always knew for years about this and I've never thought someone else noticed it.

  • @ciarzyx
    @ciarzyx Před rokem +1

    wow I love your channel

  • @CrystalFissure
    @CrystalFissure Před 7 dny

    Ridiculous backdrop for a video of this topic (laudatory).
    Great stuff.

  • @TheChusoMX
    @TheChusoMX Před 2 lety

    Nice editing, like & sub

  • @4324swer
    @4324swer Před 2 lety +1

    they did it because R&C3 developement was rushed that's why it's also the shortest game in the series,and some planets are just Multiplayer maps, looking at the insomiac museum inside the game u can find a lot of cut content that they removed just because they didn't had time to finish the game

  • @anonymousplayer-du1qz
    @anonymousplayer-du1qz Před rokem +1

    your megacorp shirt is amazing

  • @Kaynstein
    @Kaynstein Před 3 lety +1

    Holy shit. Been playing the trilogy over and over again for over one and a half decades but never realized the similar songs. How?!
    Excellent analysis! Even rung the bell, the highest honor I am able to bestow.
    Looking forward to more.
    PS: where can I buy the shirt? :D

  • @Wulfjager
    @Wulfjager Před 2 lety

    i think its funny that when i was like 5 years old i spotted the quarks hideout and crash site connection. i thought i was such a genius at the time detecting those two as a kid

  • @shamanessofdestruction7979

    I like this vid, someone finally picked up that topic and mate, you a deserve a subscribe from me.

  • @raychell1
    @raychell1 Před 2 lety

    i think it makes a bit of sense they didnt remix veldin. because under drek velding already was under attack, also its a way to send the message of "this is a COMPLETELY different game from R1"
    and bringing up rilgar but specially metropolis after gives you this "oh no dont worry we have not forgotten" and it feels amazing to be fair

  • @TheShowCrow_Main_Channel

    Whoah, underrated channel

  • @abc-rf8gi
    @abc-rf8gi Před 2 lety

    Good video!

  • @croxynd3824
    @croxynd3824 Před 3 lety +6

    Nice video! Diggin’ the Megacorp shirt, curious as to where you got it from. Is it official merch?

    • @VersionGamma
      @VersionGamma  Před 3 lety +6

      Haha nope it's custom, had to upres the logo myself

  • @amy-rose7090
    @amy-rose7090 Před 2 lety

    I love these edits of Metropolis and Blackwater City soundtracks, they bring a new life to them. And I really appreciate their decisions to bring back music from the first game, because all the tracks they chose were ones we only got to hear once. For example, shooting down Drek’s dump ships on Pokitaru in the ship came with AWESOME music, but I never even heard it as a kid because I was too busy shooting the ships. When they brought it back, I didn’t recognise it. Also it took going to the Insomniac Museum and playing the list Vid Comics for me to find the grind rail music from Batalia, which is one of my favs now. It was a good decision so that those songs didn’t get lost and forgotten.
    Also where did you get that shirt??????
    Awesome video

  • @JohnSmith-gt4sy
    @JohnSmith-gt4sy Před 3 lety +1

    A lot to agree and to disagree with, but in general the analysis was really great and you managed to get your point and your opinion very well. I will definitely watch your other videos and hope your career skyrockets from here.
    What baffles me is why isn't this video in the order of thousands of watches. Fantastic script, well thought analysis, excellent editing (gotta love it when people talking about music lets you listen to the music itself so you can hear for yourself exaclty what is being discussed).
    Here's hoping this gets so much more around. Cheers!

  • @Army_of_One_
    @Army_of_One_ Před 3 lety +3

    3:26 yep thats what dynamic range is and the remaster definitely sounds like it has more
    7:18 EXTRA DRUMMINGGGG

    • @VersionGamma
      @VersionGamma  Před 3 lety +1

      VINDICATIONNNNN
      Google told me dynamic range had more to do with volume but fuck you google I was right

  • @KarlFYo
    @KarlFYo Před 2 lety

    the grind rail music from batalis from rac1 was reused in the insomniac museum unused qwark vid comic 7 in rac3

  • @noname-jt6kl
    @noname-jt6kl Před rokem +1

    Yeah it's kinda strange . Since I played number 3 first, I actually think they fit in very well with where they were placed, but it sure is bizarre that it's the only game that reuses old songs. I can understand reusing the themes of blackwater city and metropolis since you literally go there, but for the rest I don't really understand.

    • @feder373
      @feder373 Před rokem

      It makes sense when you realize the other themes were good ones "wasted" in really short sections that most players complete in just 1-2 minutes. I'm sure David realized that as well.

  • @ShadowDoyler
    @ShadowDoyler Před 2 lety +1

    The fact you filmed a retrospective on a beach is iconic af

  • @kurokyoto6221
    @kurokyoto6221 Před rokem

    Aranos and Annihilation Station didn't even click for me until you played them both because it just sounded like it's own song in the arena.

  • @Samsung_Samuel
    @Samsung_Samuel Před 2 lety +1

    1:41 Samsung, Google, Oppo and others have been doing it for years.

  • @bobbieluij
    @bobbieluij Před 2 lety +1

    I never noticed they re used the music ;)

  • @Lordy-Lord
    @Lordy-Lord Před 2 lety +1

    The og R&C trilogy and Up your arsenal has the best tracks

  • @Aliamner
    @Aliamner Před 2 lety

    The guitar used in UYA makes me incredibly moist. Bless you David

  • @eman61556155
    @eman61556155 Před 3 lety

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who still loves these games!

  • @HotWingChips
    @HotWingChips Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for you analysis; RAC fan on a tropical island.

  • @literallysarah
    @literallysarah Před 3 lety +3

    What beach is dis

  • @tangentingtangerines5709

    Actually I'm pretty sure Ratchet 3's Veldin track is a remix of Ratchet 1 just a heavily remixed one. It's the most changed remix by far, however some riffs from the original song are definitely there. The most obvious is the heavy bass opening of R&C1 is matched in R&C3 by the melody that comes in around 0:24. It's just that the instruments and their placements in the song are completely different so it's way easier to miss, but the chord progression is definitely the same.

  • @jnsn94
    @jnsn94 Před 2 lety +1

    What a sigma male 💪 talking about a good childhood game sitting on the beach ,this video is so good
    Keep your good work

  • @Zippy_Zolton
    @Zippy_Zolton Před 2 lety +1

    love the megacorp shirt

  • @triledink
    @triledink Před 2 lety

    Don't forget that planet Daxx also uses the kerwan theme when you're on the path to get the charge boots.

  • @TheTretex
    @TheTretex Před rokem

    Not technically "reused" like the other tracks in the video, but Holostar Studios' music is an arrangment of Planet Boldan's Silver City music from Going Commando.

  • @vampiricvitya
    @vampiricvitya Před 2 lety

    HAHA THE BEACH BACKDROP IS ACTUALLY PRETTY UNIQUE I like it

  • @scatered1
    @scatered1 Před 2 lety

    That Megacorp shirt is amazing I want it so bad.

  • @FORRESTtheunoriginal
    @FORRESTtheunoriginal Před 2 lety

    Some guy just wandering on a beach and talking about good music, what a video.

  • @Kristiansolis15
    @Kristiansolis15 Před rokem

    Annihilation nation Arena combat is similar to releasing your ship in going commando.

  • @racoononinternet2132
    @racoononinternet2132 Před 2 lety

    This videos is pretty well edited, I bet it's from a big channe...ONLY 592 SUBS...WHAT

  • @caveguy22
    @caveguy22 Před 9 měsíci

    Imagine going on a walk on the beach and stumbling upon a R&C fan. :O I think I would shit myself so badly that even the Plumber would stay away.

  • @giornopotanna3270
    @giornopotanna3270 Před rokem

    Holy shit that Megacorp tshirt DRIPS

  • @burnsy96
    @burnsy96 Před 2 lety +1

    I forgot Ratchet (2016) technically had a soundtrack until you brought it up lol

  • @littlebigcomrade
    @littlebigcomrade Před 2 lety

    I like to imagine he’s speaking on Pokitaru.

  • @TheMeccio
    @TheMeccio Před 2 lety +1

    watch out! Since no official release of the ost exist, tracks like Rilgar might aswell be the same, your source simply encoded them differently. Also, enable half pixel offset in the emulator!

  • @0paquitouwu
    @0paquitouwu Před rokem

    Excellent Video, I don't know why they used music, or but I have two theories and one only applies to a specific song, I think they didn't have much time to compose more songs because of due to the release date of the third game (I don't know what year it came out) but in the case of nation annihilation, it's because their specific song is too wasted in the second game Apart from being one of the songs that I liked that they have reused it, anyway, simply epic

  • @Kristiansolis15
    @Kristiansolis15 Před rokem

    Zelde in is the Snaggle beast theme from Umbris

  • @UmiZoomR
    @UmiZoomR Před 2 lety

    Unique filming background

  • @RemyRaccoon
    @RemyRaccoon Před 3 lety +1

    yeah the soundtrack fuckin slaps, but this video fuckin slaps too
    great video dude! ^w^

  • @literatemax
    @literatemax Před 2 lety +1

    You forgot UYA's Vidcomic 1 Special Edition reusing the first game's Batalia Rail Grind as well as the Annihilation Nation Arena Boss fight reusing the Pokitaru Dogfight.
    Awesome breakdown otherwise. I would have liked at least a mention of how the Snagglebeast/Zeldrin songs both have to do with Qwark.

  • @IsaacVonberg
    @IsaacVonberg Před rokem

    This dude really out here criticizing the sound design decisions from 17 years ago... And I'm fucking here for it, lets gooo!

  • @gamursnek
    @gamursnek Před 8 měsíci

    I need your freaking megacorp shirt like wtf those exist??

  • @will_adamborn
    @will_adamborn Před 2 lety +1

    Where did you get the Megacorp T-shirt

  • @d.o.1554
    @d.o.1554 Před rokem

    The Rilgar theme is such a banger! Why does it have to sound so evil and dark? I don't know but it fuckin slaps! And the Metroplis theme might be one of the most iconic pieces in videogame-music history! Damn i have to replay UYA!