Trade SHG with score lines 0-0,1-0 or 1 1 it is profitable but what you need to take about is your strike rate and odds you want to trade at. I look for odds of 5.0 or less so need 83 percent to be profitbable . I lay 1 percent of bank So won't go bust if few badly. You should do a video of staking and bank management would help a lot
TBH research is a waste of time - what happened in the past does not mean the same thing will happen in the future, especially as squads change from year to year. Most of my trading is done in play where you base your decisions on what IS happening instead of what MAY happen - laying the 0-0 at HT (obviously when the score is 0-0) is much safer with reduced liability - base your trade on current stats from that game not what happened last year
Similar problem, I did not laying 0:0 ,but back draw/btts and laying draw, concept is same, you loose only if match 0:0 , first 5 matches and 2 finish 0:0 , at least I was not putting big money there ,but still , big risk ,even if statistic saying 0:0 finish about 7-10% matches....
Never been sensible to do this. As others have pointed out, just one loss can wipe out previous profits and more besides. In addition, in these days of VAR there's always the chance of a soft penalty for some dubious handball or challenge wrongly deemed a foul. I also echo those who point out that in-game stats are far more significant than historical data. Hugely risky and best to avoid.
It's a dreadful strategy for noobs. No half decent trader would give this the time of day Its not even trading. People think be ause they are using "betfair" and clicking a lay button it makes them traders and it doesn't If you can do the same thing at bet365 then it isn't trading. Lay 0-0? Just go to bet365 and back over 0.5 goals. It's the same thing It ain't trading. It's just mug punting with no edge and a high strike rate to even break even
@@SL0409 agree with most of what you say but get tired of people say betting on an EXCHANGE isn’t TRADING. Lol It shows fundamental lack of understanding of what trading is. Trading is not defined by exiting before the end as some seem to think.
@@SL0409 just curious to why you would watch these types of videos if your a trader with such an amazing profit? Not a jab but these are ment for us noobs who know nothing and trying to learn something. Where would you recommend starting?
I like your vids, but you have messed up the calculations, if you do this you will lose way more than 7% because every game that ends 0-0 you will lose obv but you are not factoring in goal times, so X-amount of games that count at the 95% of non 0-0 will be from games where the goals came later than the cash out point. Your lose % will be much higher and skewed badly, this is why you cant just scale this strat and print monies.
Do not do this ?? Fastest way to the poorhouse ? You will be surprised how many games end in 00 👎 massive liability trust me I've blown a few banks doing this ? Games that expected goals every man and his dog thought will be goals and yes it will happen and it's not worth the risk ? Just drip lay the draw and back 00 for insurance if you want steady profits ? Do not be tempted to do this 👎👎
If you can find games where it is expected to be a tight low scoring game the liabilities would be a lot less. Also there are many leagues around the world with high scoring games. I think in the Hong Kong premier league last season 90% of games played had at 3 goals.
What if i just lay the draw on top curent team constantly, one team... When it's eventually it will have a draw i just double it in next stake on same team, now you can say what if there is two draw in raw ? Well then i double it twice or even there times... Not a chance that lets say arsenal can have a draw there times in raw...
Each to their own but personally I hate low strike rate strategies. It’s mentally destroying see all your “good” work wiped out with one result. I made this mistake and found it soul destroying but other people may differ. My strategy is backing 2.0 or better. Sure you have runs of losses with this but at least the wins mean something!
Ridiculous strategy. Across a number of leagues for the last 3 seasons the data shows that 8% of games end 0-0. So in other words 92% of games have at least 1 goal. Convert 92% to back odds and that is 1.09. If as in the example you are laying at odds of 12 you can convert that to back odds which (including 2% commission) comes out at 1.0891 rounded up thats 1.09 = no edge whatsoever! Some leagues like the Bundesliga, Jupiler, Eliteserien have less 0-0 games but the lay odds will probably reflect this.
For anyone just starting out with trading, this is absolutely awful advice. Trading is all about finding value and there is absolutely 0 value in doing this. One of the most important parts of trading is price and it’s been completely neglected here. There is profit in laying the correct score but not until 65-70 mins when the price is much more weighted in your favour. The guy talks about picking games with huge gulfs in class but the market will always reflect that and hence there is no value in laying them long term. For this to work, you need to work out a price point that can turn a profit over the long term and find the games that are likely to have a late goal.
Agree. It's absolutely dreadful and how anyone recommending this has the gawl to think they can educate people on CZcams is embarrassing This isn't even trading. It's just a fancy way of backing over 0.5 goals
Why lay the draw at 65-70 minutes if 0-0? You usually get close odds for Over 0.5 goals. You then don’t need to hang around watching it like a hawk and constantly trading out for less than max
your numbers are way off, firstly allot of games wouldhave late goals but you would of got out at that point you never factored that in also the odds do differ by a huge amount some times the odds can be lower then 12 some times they can be upto 50 its a bit silly to just blanket it like this and say you would of earned X amount in profit is the odds was all at 12 as that would never happen, would be interested to see you do a video on doing this but having an exit point of 75 minutes but also getting all the starting odds for them games then it would be a true reflection otherwise your just making stuff up and people might actually try this lol
I completely appreciate where you’re coming from, I’ll definitely look to keep track of this over a longer period. I’ll do the 75 min exit and also keep track of any late goals :)
Trade SHG with score lines 0-0,1-0 or 1 1 it is profitable but what you need to take about is your strike rate and odds you want to trade at. I look for odds of 5.0 or less so need 83 percent to be profitbable . I lay 1 percent of bank So won't go bust if few badly. You should do a video of staking and bank management would help a lot
TBH research is a waste of time - what happened in the past does not mean the same thing will happen in the future, especially as squads change from year to year. Most of my trading is done in play where you base your decisions on what IS happening instead of what MAY happen - laying the 0-0 at HT (obviously when the score is 0-0) is much safer with reduced liability - base your trade on current stats from that game not what happened last year
Let’s see I have ireland vs Cyprus 0-0 at half time based on the last 3 games played at 0-0 full time let’s see
@@adejuwonodugbesi3102 Finished 2-2.
The problem with this strategy is one loss wipes out all your profits, and although unlikely you may get two games in a row that finish 0-0
Although I recommend this strategy, once I had three times in row 0:0....
Similar problem, I did not laying 0:0 ,but back draw/btts and laying draw, concept is same, you loose only if match 0:0 , first 5 matches and 2 finish 0:0 , at least I was not putting big money there ,but still , big risk ,even if statistic saying 0:0 finish about 7-10% matches....
Thats true, one 0-0 game and it wiped all my previous profit
Never been sensible to do this. As others have pointed out, just one loss can wipe out previous profits and more besides. In addition, in these days of VAR there's always the chance of a soft penalty for some dubious handball or challenge wrongly deemed a foul. I also echo those who point out that in-game stats are far more significant than historical data. Hugely risky and best to avoid.
agree
It's a dreadful strategy for noobs. No half decent trader would give this the time of day
Its not even trading. People think be ause they are using "betfair" and clicking a lay button it makes them traders and it doesn't
If you can do the same thing at bet365 then it isn't trading.
Lay 0-0? Just go to bet365 and back over 0.5 goals. It's the same thing
It ain't trading. It's just mug punting with no edge and a high strike rate to even break even
@@SL0409 agree with most of what you say but get tired of people say betting on an EXCHANGE isn’t TRADING. Lol It shows fundamental lack of understanding of what trading is. Trading is not defined by exiting before the end as some seem to think.
@@robcord5982 I started trading betfair in 2004, gave up work in 2007 and I'll never work again. I know what trading is 😉
@@SL0409 just curious to why you would watch these types of videos if your a trader with such an amazing profit? Not a jab but these are ment for us noobs who know nothing and trying to learn something. Where would you recommend starting?
I like your vids, but you have messed up the calculations, if you do this you will lose way more than 7% because every game that ends 0-0 you will lose obv but you are not factoring in goal times, so X-amount of games that count at the 95% of non 0-0 will be from games where the goals came later than the cash out point. Your lose % will be much higher and skewed badly, this is why you cant just scale this strat and print monies.
If you find tennis trading to be a similar risk/reward to this then you are either using the wrong strategy or doing it wrong.
The only times I have been able to win consistently is reading the game in play and getting at least odds at evens
Do not do this ?? Fastest way to the poorhouse ? You will be surprised how many games end in 00 👎 massive liability trust me I've blown a few banks doing this ? Games that expected goals every man and his dog thought will be goals and yes it will happen and it's not worth the risk ? Just drip lay the draw and back 00 for insurance if you want steady profits ? Do not be tempted to do this 👎👎
Statistically 7% end up 0-0. Big question is which 7%.
If you can find games where it is expected to be a tight low scoring game the liabilities would be a lot less. Also there are many leagues around the world with high scoring games. I think in the Hong Kong premier league last season 90% of games played had at 3 goals.
It's obvious ....the 7% we back😂😂😂
Just back over 0.5 goals. It's the same thing without all the pissing about
Its also a dreadful strategy and not trading either. Just mug punting
What if i just lay the draw on top curent team constantly, one team... When it's eventually it will have a draw i just double it in next stake on same team, now you can say what if there is two draw in raw ? Well then i double it twice or even there times... Not a chance that lets say arsenal can have a draw there times in raw...
Just back.over 0.5 lol this is a noob trade
Each to their own but personally I hate low strike rate strategies. It’s mentally destroying see all your “good” work wiped out with one result. I made this mistake and found it soul destroying but other people may differ. My strategy is backing 2.0 or better. Sure you have runs of losses with this but at least the wins mean something!
I can't wait for the new football season as I am a newbie .thanks top man.
Ridiculous strategy. Across a number of leagues for the last 3 seasons the data shows that 8% of games end 0-0. So in other words 92% of games have at least 1 goal. Convert 92% to back odds and that is 1.09. If as in the example you are laying at odds of 12 you can convert that to back odds which (including 2% commission) comes out at 1.0891 rounded up thats 1.09 = no edge whatsoever! Some leagues like the Bundesliga, Jupiler, Eliteserien have less 0-0 games but the lay odds will probably reflect this.
For anyone just starting out with trading, this is absolutely awful advice. Trading is all about finding value and there is absolutely 0 value in doing this. One of the most important parts of trading is price and it’s been completely neglected here. There is profit in laying the correct score but not until 65-70 mins when the price is much more weighted in your favour. The guy talks about picking games with huge gulfs in class but the market will always reflect that and hence there is no value in laying them long term. For this to work, you need to work out a price point that can turn a profit over the long term and find the games that are likely to have a late goal.
Agree. It's absolutely dreadful and how anyone recommending this has the gawl to think they can educate people on CZcams is embarrassing
This isn't even trading. It's just a fancy way of backing over 0.5 goals
Why lay the draw at 65-70 minutes if 0-0? You usually get close odds for Over 0.5 goals. You then don’t need to hang around watching it like a hawk and constantly trading out for less than max
It's betting, nothing more or counting for sheer dumb luck
Dont do this.
your numbers are way off, firstly allot of games wouldhave late goals but you would of got out at that point you never factored that in also the odds do differ by a huge amount some times the odds can be lower then 12 some times they can be upto 50 its a bit silly to just blanket it like this and say you would of earned X amount in profit is the odds was all at 12 as that would never happen, would be interested to see you do a video on doing this but having an exit point of 75 minutes but also getting all the starting odds for them games then it would be a true reflection otherwise your just making stuff up and people might actually try this lol
I completely appreciate where you’re coming from, I’ll definitely look to keep track of this over a longer period. I’ll do the 75 min exit and also keep track of any late goals :)
@@FirstHandFinances sorry if i come across as a bit of a cock lol i didnt mean it like that, i do enjoy your videos
The problem with this strategy is one loss wipes out all your profits, and although unlikely you may get two games in a row that finish 0-0