Accidentally gave Karthus 20 Kills in 20 minutes 👀
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2023
- When Karthus picks up 20 kills in 20 minutes you be scared AF. If you enjoy the video, comment, smash the like button, and subscribe!
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I'm just loving the massive upload streak. It's a breath of fresh air to see Tilterella making this much content
The dude legit loves chaos and that double jungle play style brings chaos to every game. Easy content.
An offmeta strat that is working, you just need to know your stuff and get a team to go with it...
I know the solwolf would be happy
I think it would have been great if you showed the gold difference in that game.
Would have been interesting to see how good/bad the karthus situation was
Karthus was probably ahead in gold but behind in xp. So was Rakan since he kept trying to match Tilt and Xayah couldn't lane vs Draven solo putting bot ahead.
I really liked how you started your video today, it makes the whole video a bit more object and would make for a more interesting experience overall.
It's good that he's migrating to CZcams.
Twitch is dying.
It seems like you really like this start youve started and its causing you to make a lot more content and really enjoy yourself. Keep up the great work. My only question is about your thought process pre game. Before you load in, what are you thinking about? Are there team comps you would choose not to force it in to? Or do you find it viable across all team comps due to the difficulty for enemy teams to actually counter the strat since you counter their counter by just map splitting effectively?
If this ever gets in pro play, rito is going to nerf it into the ground because the meta isn’t allowed to change unless it’s on their terms
double jungle used to be played , how can people forget about it? back in the old days, when bot lane would swap with top the to planer would only farm the small creeps from the jungle
@@ericknorskr8568 roaming alistair + lee sin tower dives were NUTS
I love how many videos you upload in the past few days, please don't stop the amazing work.
double jungle was played for about 2 years in pro play, back in the bot lane swap meta, I don't know what you guys are on about , must be new players
2:20 going into the pit was such an amazing big brain
For real, I think that most players wouldn't do that
Love your content and the frequent uploads, man!
Yoooo let's go! Love the informational start man. Your videos literally have it all
Yo Tilt, not really a question but maybe a request - can't you gather 9 more ppl and try double double jungle? What would happen then? Imagine the mayham!
Edit: typo
This but get the guy from tapin you taught as enemy double jg
"both teams are just as good as each other"
my man's never seen a pro game in his life
Dude keep the uploads up!! God loves you. The intro to the vid really hooked me in btw
Keep pumpin the vids out, they are the best they've ever been!
I've only watched 1min of the video, but to comment on if this would work in pro play, i'm also pretty sure it would work... for some games. Just like it worked to cheese a TOp Sion down on bot bushes for some matches until teams started getting more preapared to counter it. But like all other strats in this game, it will take time for teams to actually adapt and counter it
have you tried this strat with other champs and are there ones that would also benefit from it? I just think that sion is so strong with his Q and passive at lvl1-2 that there are little to none champs that can provide similar ammount of damage and utility in early skirmishes
Probably works on early game champs, but this definitely wouldn’t work in pro play. Thinking that this strategy would work in LCK/LPL because it works in OCE is a large amount of cope. Your bot lane would get dove 24/7.
@@paleskin5087the whole point is that if bot lane gets hard focused they love the entire othersie of the map and it isn't as bad as normal because it's only adc. There is only 1 kill to gain every dive because the support is actually taking their jungle camps and securing objectives and effectively shutting top and mid out of the game. That's why it could work
@@MediumHeatJazz i dont think it matters, enemy ADC will get lots of money and kills to 1v1 or freeze the lane. and the rest of the team can deathball the lanes that Sion got ahead
there is no coordination in SoloQ but there's lots in proplay. It's a good strat, but it's heavily countered by coordination, becuase it relies on attacking blindspots in the enemy jungle
@@simonenoli4418yeah, but being so off meta it could work as a one of sort of deal when is do or die for a team
@@paleskin5087yeah this strat is easy to counter imo, it’s all on the support though
Loving the command and conqueror music in the background
The biggest indicator that the double jungle strategy could work in proplay is how broken both support top and the top sion lvl 1 dive was when executed well. It also throws teams way off that are used to a specific style. I think the one caveat would be I can't see it working well against LPL teams with how bot focused they are. Doesn't matter how annoying you are for the rest of the map if your ADC is getting perma dove every third wave.
Would be interesting to see it tried in a real match though. Would make draft stage much more fun.
yeah the 5 min fiesta would be what would occur in proplay if you tried doing this, the entire team would collapse on you constantly. it'd work for a few games until they figured it out
So many tilt uploads, this is a dream
That karthus is seething about this one
i feel like with the gold difference/items/kills on karthus convo ppl aren't noting he had dark harvest enough. getting all those stacks are super valuable, especially on a karthus given how he uses his ult.
I heard your comment in the beginning about how it would work and pro play and I have a question. The adc is left in a 1 v 2 situation but it can survive due to the lack of communication. In most pro play games due to the high lv of coordination both marksman are the ones that decide most teamfights because they are defended well. Do you think that it can survive 1 v 2 in pro play? Because if the adc is slightly behind it has a big impact due to the low kill high farm nature of pro play
imo he is wrong. ADC is the most important role in competetive. You will only see coordinated 3 v 1 dives, or freezes that zone enemy adc from exp. Putting a sejuani or maokai behind means nothing when your adc is fed. You also grant your opponent a free scaling lane. Imagine Jinx with 10cs/min and full platings and maybe 2 kills with well prepared dives. The game is just over for you then. The teams are so good at teamfighting and peeling, that you would never have a chance. Only way I can imagine is if you pick a scaling mage bot, that cant be dove that easily, maybe veigar, and the other team has weak dive botlane + a carry jungler that requires ressources. But even then it wont be for sure you have an advantage. Also I think there are some champs, that can go very well againts this strat like Ivern. You can contest from range, Camp wont ever aggro you, you cant be outsmited once you hit your mark on camp. Also you can go low income without harm.
Tilterellas cringe strat only works on this dogish server OCE if he tried this on a real server like EUW or KR he would probably not even hit masters
@@urbanfrenzy6272 prob true. I was always wondering on which server he would hit challenger with this. I play euw diamond and when I play adc people don't seem as brainless as these people in his Videos sometimes.
@urbanfrenzy6272 I mean, people were also saying that about thebausffs then he went to Korea and wrecked people so hard someone at riot Korea pushed for nerfs. Once baus came back sion was nerfed like 3 or 4 times in the span of 6 months
That was one of the silliest games I've seen.
On the topic of would it work in pro play, I think the question on wether or not it would work is not on can they counter the jungleing part but how well they can punish (and on the the double jungle side not be punished) the solo bot lane, because while the solo bot does get advantages I think alot of pro level bot lanes would be able to punish the bot hard enough that even the work you do to set the enemy jungle behind would be more than counteracted by your bot being behind. I agree that at that level and with coms, the teams would be able to coordinate invades, counter invades and counter counter invades and it would just come down to how well the bot lane goes VS what you do in the jungle. Also bans are a thing to harm the strat alot if it ever became an issue.
Well the issue with pro play is if they would wait or him in bush and jump on him with half or the whole team and run away. They're just too coordinated for a chaos strat to work I think.
Bc think about this if they knew he was gonna pull this in a pro play game they would study it beforehand and just counter it around every corner.
Can you expand more on the role of the adc/marksman when playing with a double jungler, especially in a potential pro play setting. Would you prefer a Ziggs adc or something similar, who can wave clear safely and avoid getting dove + avoid giving plates?
I wonder with what champions other than Sion this strat would work well
have you tried this with kindred support because i feel like because of the marks it would be really strong as you're basically permanently invading
@Tilterella Do you think the smite supp strat would work with other champions and if so, which ones?
I would like to know if this strategy works with other JG different from Sion really, because it actually looks really fun to do
How do you decide when to play braum and when to play double jg?
In love with your videos. So happy you're uploading more often! Thank you!
saw you on enemy team in slogdog's stream today, ggs nice content as always king
I remember tilterella asked 8 graves for a song is it out or not? I cant recognize what song it would be? (Sorry for my english)
i hope u see my question but how viable is it in lower elos like dia/em? since people tilt super fast and dont understand shit…
EDIT: and would it work on any other champ than sion? or which champs would be good for it thanks for answer❤️
Is there is another champs where this strategy works cause ik sion passif in the early is a beast but i was wondering if you've ever tried another champ
How did you come up with the double jungle idea?
I have a question. Would this sort of strat work with other junglers like Karthus, Amumu, or Sejuani? I figure no since the gimmick is Sion passive but the others also have good cc and Karthus also has a "death passive"
this draven was insane, laned 1v2 all game won lane then frontlined for his team like a gigachad killing people in melee range lol
What a troll... I mean the karthus
I'm assuming if they ban sion you just play regular support right?
Were you thinking of trying out double jg with Skarner instead of Sion?
Would’ve liked to see the gold per team chart through the game at the end
What happens if both teams do double jungling (aka it becomes meta)?
Is the strat even more effective if you're the only double-jungling team?
Did my first SION SUP smite today. They ff at 21.00
what other champs could do this? Is is the spamable shield+aoe cc that makes this so sustainable? obviously passive is massive
Why not use phase rush instead of glacial to apply more pressure after your death during invade?
Does double jungle require someone like sion? who do you recommend or think would work as the second jungler?
nunu
Needs insane aoe clear. And it has to be a tank or tanky champion. Those seem to be the big things
Are you only doing the double jungle with Sion? Not Nunu or other junglers? Why?
is double jungle possible only with sion??
generals theme. i love it
How do you handle your adc's getting tilted when you go for double smite
Pls more of these amazing content
@tilterella tuned back in very recently. Are we ever going to see spicy noodle return?
Bdw I'm sure in s5 or s4 there was infamous meta, that was so f**ked up, that toplaner either sit back and collect only meele minions (because he played 2 or 3 vs 1) or helped jungler (which could even result in 1 vs 4, better play safer next time 😂)
Towers were destroyed like before 5-th min, as jg was patching top creating 3 vs 1.
So there is defenitly possibility. I wonder if this could work on some other champions. Fiddle have really good base dmg on r & cc,decent sustain, although probably not that good in pro play. Something like nunu could work.
That was before turrets got their early defenses juiced up or rewarded plate gold. Not saying it's impossible to 2v1, just something to consider
No post game stats? Dam
No baus special?
I would have loved to see the end game stats on this one :D
Have you tried this strategy with other champions? I don't recall how vast is your champion pool, but I keep imagining this with Mordekaiser
My counter-argument:
Professional players woud take way more advantage of the 2v1 in botlane. Early dives are pretty common in toplane, imagine what they'd do with a solo laner in bot.
What other champions, excluding Sion, would be viable for double jungle? Both teams can't go double jungle Sion 😅
I would have loved to see the gold graph for the karthus that game
So my question is fairly simple as a Sett one trick: How well do you think The Boss would work as a double jungle and would you be willing to demonstrate why, or why not, it would work?
how to do this double jungling in low elo?
What other Champs do you think would work for double jungle?
Why do you take glacial augment over something like Phase rush, the movement speed feels more effective for your bait in and out playstyle + passive pressure and a lot of the slow seems to not get value due to the stun.
I would love to see the economy graph of this game
The most important question: How do you win early laning NOT by dying for cs or proxying? Into like gwen or singed, hard counters
I would love to see the gold charts of this game
Can you show game where it didn't work?
Yes, the title is clickbait
This guy saw the Photoshop tutorial for the thumbnail, you know which one (;
Double jungle saw play throughout Season 5 into worlds.
would have loved to se the graphs of gold on the karthus
Viable but might be hard in pro play, especially with how much they relying on ward and control word for map control
I just wanna see this strat work in low elo (preferably when I'm on the side doing it / winning)
Would love to see the gold graph on that one
I have been wondering for a while now why you use Sion? I understand why the baus uses it but you…?
I would've loved to see the gold graph this game
@13:00 should've been a Baus special...
Cool and all, but what happens when the enemy picks this as well? :D ever had that happen yet?
how do i stop diamond players in my game attempting this and just emberassing themselves.
are you willing to post a loss to let us know how this strat can go wrong? i think it would be educational for us!! love your 100 uploads the last couple days btw❤❤
I agree. Seeing youtubers post videos despite it being a loss is excellent learning material.
played vs someone doing your start in plat/emerald elo but he didn't knew i was og fan of yours so i knew everything he would do and countered him it was easy game
I wanna see that in pro play xD
87 kills in 30 minutes... I *desperately* want to see this in pro play.
It would have been nice to see the gold chart
How come that shaco has 9 kills and 144cs at 30 min has only 2 items lol
I think it would be ideal for professional play. Riot should PUSH for it. Firstly, it makes for WAY more interesting games early. Secondly, ADCs just want to farm primarily anyways and one on one ADC fights are pretty interesting. Thirdly, even if the enemy team doesn't want to do it, it shouldn't be a problem for your ADC to farm in competitive (especially against a passive bot lane).
Maybe if they made camps tankier but give more gold and xp.
honestly if karthus had any clue what he was doing you would easly lose it. all he needed to do was have right runes (fs) and he would be fullbuild in 15th min with that much int :D after that he can just brut force aram after pressing r and beside you everyone else would be at 20-30% hp at most :D but it is low elo game
Surely you know better than those grandmaster players , atleast he didnt get banned for feeding like someone favorite streamer boohoo
@@ThienBao-ti5cm posty got banned? anyway if its not korean gm its not diffrent than silver tbh since rank system is hella inflated now
why sion smite support?
there are better early 1v1 champions and champs with better jungle clear speed
Please change the outro music
🤘
>last video
"Well why did you pick Draven, you should have picked something safe like ezreal."
>this video
"That's why I like Draven over ezreal."
Bruh
Anyone watch wandering pro
"most kills I've seen on ranked game" you should try playing on LAN there is no game under 60 kills 😂
gg
bro... you cut out the most important part of the video. you don't show how xayah died at 11:24. you time skipped into the 5v4 that got you the inhib. the kill on xayah is what secured you the game. it was tied before that. and you didn't even show it :/
you stole everything from karthus and he still have the same level as you, i just dont know where his exp was coming from
never been this early wtf