Playing Mafia's "Awful" PS2 Port
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I remember when My Friend only played this version and hated Mafia.
I tried so Hard to convince him that the PC-version is the best version and that Mafia is One of the greatest games ever made.
15 years later he tried it on PC (first time he owned a PC) and now he Loves it
The power of good graphics :)
a real friend never lets his friend hate on mafia 1
Maybe he just grew up
I first played it on original xbox and liked it, I was shocked that I could pay for speeding tickets
Cav L my reaction when I played mafia 2 (first mafia game I’ve played)
I played the PS2 version back in the day and I personally found it rather enjoyable. 😁 👍 👍
For me I loved it. I’ve always loved any 1920-1950 entertainment, my father was born in 1949 we’d talk about “old days” he said he seen mafia people downtown Chicago in 1958.
Stop my father and his gang from robbing a Goldblatt's store on Ashland.
@@Chchchchchivo that means you was born in the 1960
@@Ddot787 No I was born 1990.
@@Chchchchchivo Nice how was it back in the day
@@Ddot787 My childhood was great.
This is how I started on my Mafia journey. On Ps2. My brother bought the game used for a couple bucks, and he didn't like the opening. I tried it and fell in love. Played the crap out of it for several years, before I realized the PC version existed and would run on my terrible PC. I remember saying how the PC version felt like real life compared to PC. Aside from the long loading times, especially when you add loading across the bridges, I didn't have any complaints with this version.
I played Mafia 1 on PS2 way back on 2004 before I realized I was missing a lot of not playing the PC version (until around 2013) since I didn't know the PC version was the original port of the game.
Despite the amount of loading times going across the Giuliano Bridge and in-between missions, I still enjoyed it back then. But after playing the PC version and seeing the amount of graphics (FPS, Draw Distance, non-disappearing body and blood on deceased enemies), car damage physics, the amount of diversity of AI cars, and features (Real-Time cutscenes and Free Ride Extreme) missing on PS2, I don't think I could ever go back playing Mafia on PS2 anymore. The only exclusive features found on PS2 are Racing Mode and the Bigfoot vehicle on Free Ride.
Quick tip: Press L2 or R2 to auto-aim to enemies. I didn't discover this feature until Election Campaign (18th mission) so you can imagine how frustrating it was for me aiming manually on PS2 analog stick while dying countlessly.
You're most likely using RCA/Composit cable with a modern tv that's why it's so dark, get RGB/Scart or Componente cables, it will also look much better
Component is always better. The darkness is caused by shitty A/D conventer in PS2 to HDMI from ebay (those also use component signal internally but their conversion to digital sucks). If you connect component directly to decent TV it has normal colours and brightness.
1:17 This is also beta radar since in final version those rectanges are much smaller.
Tebe bych tu nečekal, taková osobnost!
I grew up playing the ps2 version when I was around 8-10 years old, and I actually never got past the hotel mission because it was so hard, I never realized you could “auto-aim” and my free aim sensitivity was too low (didn’t know I could change that either at that age). I just recently downloaded the PC version and beat the whole game, it is shockingly better on the PC. The only thing the ps2 version did better was the use of a detailed minimap rather than whatever we got on the PC.
Is the ps2 version easier??
How the heck do you auto aim? Just started playing?
@@ipstardell I think it’s either L2 or R2, might be L3 or R3. It shoots the crosshairs to the nearest enemy, but it doesn’t ‘lock’ on the enemy, it’s basically just an aim assist. It drastically changes the gameplay in my opinion, although I haven’t played in many years.
Ps2 to hdmi adapter is what makes the picture darker. Hyperkin and pound cables do the same. Not sure why but small price to pay to hook up a ps2 to modern TVs. Great video once again
Yeah that's why I can barely see the later levels in max Payne on the PS2 since I have HDMI adapter
"Gathering of Developers" was the publisher for Mafia, and apparently they shortened their name to just "Gathering" by the time of the PS2 port.
Differences:
1. Graphics are the worst of the 3 ports
2. You have a map instead of a blank radar
3. Draw distance is awful
4. You can carry all weapons, on PC you can carry only sidearms, 1 hidden large weapon and the second in your hands
5. Bodies disappear after a few seconds
6. Instead of Free Ride Extreme there is Racing
7. Cutscenes are pre-rendered
8. A few map changes
9. On PS2 when you shoot at car doors they will fall off
are the freeride extreme vehicles are back? because me buying this for mah ps2 collection and honestly I love the hillbilly and if it dont got it, aint worth it (also I like the map its looks cool for a poster)
The loading times... Oh the flashbacks
Roxy! I can't believe you're almost at 40k subs, that's incredible! I remember when KCD first dropped and I came across your channel, you had like 50 subscribers. Shows how fast its grown. Congrats!
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This was the only way I could play this game back in the day due to not having a PC. It done the job and I loved the game and it probably helped that none of my mates had it on pc so i never knew how good it could be lol.
I actually fully played through the Ps2 version. My dad bought it since he was a big fan of GTA at the time and it being called a "GTA like/clone" made my dad wanna get it. Though after the first level, he gave up and said it was trash and nothing like GTA. So I gave it a go and since I was a fan of gangster movies and such, I had a feeling I'd have fun. The learning curve like the PC version is high but once you got used to it, it became second nature for me. Cause I too went into it expecting GTA like gameplay and such. (I was 14 when I played it in 2005, sue me) I especially struggled on things like the race, the stealth mission with Salvatore and one of the late game missions. Nowadays though, I don't own this version since it was my dads and it sadly got messed up so I can't play it anymore. I'm honestly thinking of tracking down a copy and playing the game again, now being more tempered with my gaming experiences and such.
Also just to give a few other heads ups for this version. You can't store as many cars in this one, many of the guns recoil has been reduced to be more manageable, the speed limit was increased from 40 to 60 and as you saw, there are load times in between the small island where salieri's bar is and the rest of the city. Plus the console version has more tutorials to explain certain things in game, rather than having a separate tutorial mode.
Otherwise this port is nothing like the PC version, but I don't think it's the "worst port ever". It was ambitious for it's time, but since GTA was the big kid on the block, people did what my dad and I did. Compare it to that and then hate it for not being GTA.
You can buy a digital copy on GoG. Though it does not have music due to licencing issues. But there are patches to bring the music back.
You can buy it on steam.
@@GGoblin1 Oh I know. Just wanna get a copy for my ps2 collection.
@@0915junior Oh I know from watching Sexy Biscuit and others. Mostly wanna get a ps2 copy for my collection.
It's horrible because lots of missions are heavily cut down. Same on Xbox.
What do you mean?
@@Gazzoosethe1 Some end early.
It’s the only console I’ve played it on, definitely looks more edgy than I remember graphic wise ( abit like tomb raider 2 looked better when I was younger )
But still imagination back in the the day compensated a lot,
The story still stands strong regardless of the graphics
Indeed. I first got this game on Xbox back in 2006. ( I still remember my mom calling it cute, much to one of the pawn shop employee's confusion "
Did you play on CRT? It's not all imagination, these games were designed for a CRT television and look a lot better on it than on high definition LCD.
I have the game on PC. I had the option of buying the PS2 version at Gamestop when they were liquidating their PS2 Games (complete with original case), but I passed up on it because I was talked out of it. Later I found a copy of the OG Xbox version at Goodwill, which I purchased. Kind of bittersweet that I only have two of the three, and not all of them. Oh well.
I just remembered that the intro video is just a video file, it doesn’t run in engine. I believe this should mean the PC / PS2 versions have the same file playing for the intro
Yeah, you can insert any video there :D
Ho nza Good to know! Time to Rickroll myself
I've only ever played the PC version. Had never even seen gameplay footage of the console ports until now. Wow is all can say. This looks so terrible lmao.
I threw up in my mouth seeing the filth these console peasants squabble in
The PC version is good. I played it and now what it feels like. I played mafia 2 before mafia 1
I just bought it for the ps2 today without knowing it’s this bad
2 years late but it’s good to note that it looks worse than it actually is, you have to remember these games were meant to be played on a CRT screen that had scanlines, without a CRT the game looks jagged and messy, also playing on a modern screen will make the game run much worse as the console has to work harder to put it on more powerful hardware
I had this on Xbox and as far as I remember it was absolutely great. Can't wait to see some ps2 games on this channel.
I played Mafia's demo on PC and loved it. I eventually got it on console since i didn't own a pc myself.
Honestly, beyond cars working differently. I didn't hate it. I still loved the game.
The “whassauuup” caught me off guard lmao
the speed limit is 60 on PS2 rather than 40 on PC
The only time console can run at 60 lol
maybe because you can change it to kph? lol
@@StealthRapper No, it let's you go 60 MILES ph
As a kid, the ps2 version of mafia was the first m game I've played at 7. I only really played free ride mode because it was too dark in the first misson and it didn't help that the sunlight was reflecting off the TV I was playing on at the time.
I had and still have the Xbox version and the PC Version. Players through the whole game on the Original Xbox when the definitive Edition was announced.
Still in Love with the Game (especially the PC Version).
There are some differences with the Map: some streets and buildings are missing on the console version. Some Details are missing (for example the guy that wants to jump of the Guilano Bridge).
How long exactly is the loading time for the bridges? GTA lcs and vcs also did that but lasted for like 1 second.
I remember seeing my dad play this back in 2007/2008 and then he let me have a go which is where I fell in love with the game. My dad had already played and completed the game on pc but we didn't have a pc at our house back then, just at my grandmas so we had to play it on the ps2 and it was amazing, honestly not sure why it gets such a bad rap, I loved it and my dad never complained, I understand that the graphics are a bit shit but that shouldn't change the fact that this is one of the best games ever.
it never got a bad rep
@@richieplaysgames3087 Roxy literally said in the video that the game has a bad rap and asked why it does at 14:28
BUBBLEGUM846 so if someone says one thing you think thats always true this person is new to this game so yeah clueless
@@richieplaysgames3087 That's literally not what they are on about, I'm pretty sure people told them that this game was bad, others think it's bad, it was the first port of this game I played and even I think it's bad compared to the pc version. They didn't say that the game getting a bad rap was a fact and that everyone thought the same, it was probably because because the majority of the people that had told them about it or they had seen talking about it, had told them it was a bad port.
@@bubblegum8467 i thought you was talking about the game as a whole not the ps2 port XD thank fok for that
I had the ps2 version and I always found it fine to play, but I didn't play any other version so to me this was mafia as I didn't know any different.
I got Mafia for PC shortly after it released in 2002 and let me tell you it was AMAZING at the time! I ended up upgrading my PC just so I could play it on the highest graphic settings. I was in love with the game. The world was so immersive. You mention how a controller is much better for driving then a keyboard and I totally agree. I didn't have an analog PC gamepad but I did have something called an adaptoid which allowed you to use an N64 controller on the PC. So I would use the mouse and keyboard for the on-foot parts then use the N64 controller for driving so I could have analog steering. It may seem kind of funny now but it worked great and was a huge improvement over using the keyboard for driving.
I'm playing this game in ps2 and I'm stuck in the mission "Lucky Bastard". After killing Morello, I exit the Harbor and suddenly the car goes out of the map. What can I do? It happens all the time.
I think there are some extra racing quest, which aren't be in the PC version. You should try it. Please..
I had it on ps2 and pc WAY back in the day and I really didnt notice much defence (besides graphics) but it's been along time
1:34 Oh my god... Back then it did not see this resolution so bad :D
Maan...
Starwars Battlefront 1/2 and NFSMW were my favorite games for the PS2..
The best memories are from there
I owned the PS2 version. Still play it.
You have no idea how much I wanna report that comment
Biggest problem with the PS2 and Xbox ports was the driving the cars were so fast on console for whatever reason maybe to have a closer experience to GTA I guess and the lack of damage to cars. The world of course is very Dead kinda strange seeing Lost Heaven like this after playing on PC for years
@CHRZ CZON because the ps2 version is shit. Engine couldn't handle the AI.
@@curtiswashington8536 And that's a valid reason to raport a comment? Lol
@Victor Araujo VIC imagine taking my comment seriously
Please continue with the PC version. Waiting for your next video.
This is the game that makes me love the Mafia times. And I played it on PS2 too.
I remember picking this up for PC way back when it released. damn that was a good game. in fact, I still have a copy just don't have a PC to play it on. really excited for August and the remake on this awesome game. Many happy memories
How are u not seeing the drastic differences in visuals between this and the PC version
He is, but the ps2 graphics aren't bad
@@Punttipate62 They are bad, especially for 2004. It looks terrible.
Roxy the wait for remake gameplay is killing me. It's kinda annoying actually
Is it punching you so hard that it's draining your health bar?
@@jbiehlable Lol yeah
@@mogul188 Of course.
The console versions are just not the same game compared to the PC version - they had to scale it down a lot to make it run on console hardware (the PS2 version does not even have headlights for cars at night so you have to drive in the dark lol) - this video shows the differences between all the versions - czcams.com/video/5tp5qyN3_7U/video.html
But props to the developers for managing to get such a demanding game at the time working on consoles.
I never noticed the headlights at night.
I played it first time back on PS2 and i trully love it despite the loading screen crossing the bridge. and at that time i dont mind about the graphics and stuff, man i didn't even know what the story is because i don't really understand english, its just too bad its an underrated game at that time
I grew up playing this game on ps2 ive been playing it more recently because of your vids
Got this game for Christmas as a child along with my first ps2 and a bunch of games like Vice City, Gta3(played at the time but never owned), The Getaway and WWE Here Comes The Pain
I only played it in the PC, but I had always wondered why it wasn't famous as Vice City, and it was released before VC, now I get it.
Rooker vision did a good video comparing the versions of Mafia recently. But this look quite good for a ps2 port in 2002.
Also, did you read a interview with Hangar 13 boss about the remake?
*2004
The original came out in 2002, but it was ported to consoles 1,5 years later, in early 2004.
I still have this game on PS2 great game and ahead of its time.Granted there are some issues like no sort of GPS when it comes to maps/ driving challenge but that adds to the games appeal i hope the remake would make this close to being perfect.
I played it first on PC. Loved it.
Saw it for the PS2 in the shop once and wanted to give it a try. All i can remember was the PS2 port not having Free Ride Extreme. So I quickly re-installed it on PC and played it on PC again.
Roxy, the PC version is the original version of the game, relased in 2002. The console ports came out in 2004. And indeed, they are awful. Their only real positive aspect is the racing mode, but it can be modded into the PC version.
The racing mod glitches and crashes all the time for me, but eventually with enough tries, if lucky, you can finish the race
Is it worth getting because I don't have pc but I do have a ps2.
Just started playing and I forgot how bad I am at these old shooters. Anyone know if there’s auto aim? Can’t get passed the ‘save Sam’ mission right at the start
I owned the PS2 version of the game before and i enjoyed it very much cause this is one of my childhood games. i don't care about the graphics cause this is one of the early PS2 era games so can't complain too much about it.
Speed limit was 60 on PS2?!
Also the last time I saw blue crosses marking destinations on the map was in Bully (Rockstar's 2006 game)
60km/h is the same as pc
@@johnnytopgun6414 No it's 40.
Its made by Ilusion softworks (now 2K Czech - Hangar 13) and the gathering at start means Gathering of Developers
I completed the xbox version not to long ago and it's not as bad as people say it is.
Obviously it doesn't look as good but it is perfectly playable also there is a button to auto target over enemies.
I did not play any Mafia games on ps2 but i had one god father game wich was "Interesting" but so fun i have this one memory of one mission going absolutley sideways mayhem and chaos all over but the mission giver came out and the characters were talking how great sucsess the mission was while everything was blowing up and burning. Awesome. Gonna play mafia remasters on Ps4.
Wait is there no inventory limit on the ps2?
i didnt even know Mafia's console version exists.
I picked up a copy of this game used for PS2, but my system could not play it. I dont know why.
I remember playing Vice City on PS2 and I wasn't bothered much by the loading times between the 2 parts of the map, and anyway at that time, there was no PC version. But, for Mafia it was the other way around. It was first a PC game, and it has been ported to consoles after, in 2004. Playing on consoles would have sucked for me, knowing that there was a better version on PC already, without those extra loading times...
Well, at least they're not completely different. Imagine how the people who played Spiderman 2 on PC felt like when they discovered the console version.
The other side of your poster is different from the one I have
Could you please keep on playing the Mafia LH series kind sir?
I recall alot of frame rate drop and slowdown in heavy action sequences.
This is my point about this version it too dark and that why i fail the race mission 20x
Why did I get notification after 9 minutes
I can't believe I forgot about you I haven't watched you in over a month I have to catch up
I assume the darkness comes from the converter not the game but I do know that Socom 1 is dark af too and needs a CRT or high end OSSC / RetroTink 5x
I had the ps2 version in the day and I was obsessed with it.
The cutscenes are improved, they have background blur
How did you all get around the brightness issue? I have an old school CTV for gaming and it is just as dark as what as biscuit originally saw.
6:12 Door: Oh shit! im out...
I remember this game being incredibly hard. I loved it but never completed it and levels in the church and countryside was so hard because it was dark. Not as dark as your game. I guess the gamma on my TV was different. The controls were also shit on console but i didn't know any better. Shooting moving targets is really hard to do compared to PC. I guess all I can say is that I am gratefull that this game got ported to PS2 or I would never have heard of it or played it. But Mafia is far superior on PC and when I played it on PC years later it all made sense:P Playing this game with mouse and keyboard felt natural and was clearely the way it was intended to be played!
On playing mafia 2 right now, the series really reminds me of driver
It's not so bad as people said in the past. It's a classical PS2 sandbox GTA style game with subpar graphic but decent controls (there is the autoaim to supply the absence of mouse precision of the PC version) The gameplay, story and movie cuts are still there and they are good.
Yea it was kinda dark at night. I just got this game again for console
Knight Rider 2?
EPIC
I'm the WR holder of part 1 speedrun :p Also, Mafia's my favorite game.
Your channel name is censored on CZcams's search bar. It doesn't show up on my recent searches and it also doesn't suggest it when I type it.
I know I'm thinking of changing it lol
@@SexyBiscuit Call it 'Hot biscuit' haha
@@KenpachiZaraki601 I would say Nerdy Biscuit is better
@@SexyBiscuit Might as well just go for Roxy Biscuit.
There's a building missing @13:09
Will say this, graphically even with the hdmi adapter it will look and run significantly worse on a modern screen compared to an old school CRT tv, these games and consoles were designed to be ran on the tvs/screens of their time and so when you run it on a newer screen the console has to work harder to put the image out, as well as CRTs had scanlines and without them you get a messier and more jagged image
Im pretty sure you can scroll in and out on pc. If i remember its page up and page down.
I played mafia 1 on my friends pc and thought it was the best game ever even better than vice city. So then I bought it for the ps2 and well it was absolutely horrendous a steaming pile of dung.
I'm looking forward to get the fisical copy of the DE
After finishing Mafia DE on PS4 damn... I want original Mafia on my PS2 so bad!
Still wondering why we still not seeing any gameplay from the mafia remake a little weird the game releases in less then 2 months
I played the XBOX version in 2005; never knew it was a port. I enjoyed it a lot; never had any issues with it.
Just tried firing up the PC version, and it doesn't take kindly to controller support. The game looks better, but I don't want to use a keyboard to play it.
The speed limiter exists on the PC version. I think it was F5 by default.
I played this game on PC and later played it on PS2, the main problem of the ps2 version is the loading time and you have to load so frequently. Otherwise it completely ok. I also like I can drive while looking at the map, it is so much fun, just like some people do it on real life (this causes the majority of car accidents in my playthrough of Mafia,hahah)
Two things you didn't notice, I think there is no tutorial on PS2, and on ps2 you cannot change to manual while driving, there is no gear selection on PS2.
The fact that they left 'Quit' on the main menu of a PS2 game doesn't bode well...
Oh, more PS2 videos would be sweet! Too bad you haven't tried the racing mode since it's not on PC. But I think it would be essentially the formula mission from the game.
They need to bring out more true crime the New York one was crazy for back in the day
thank you
the PS2 version reminds me of Driver ... although the cutscenes on PS2 look slightly more cinametic rather than on PC
When I play it on my ps2, the frame rate is horrible, the game is super slow and feels like I'm playing driver 2 on ps1, which also lags alot too, not sure if that's just my PlayStation or whether it's the game themselves
I first played it on the ps2 I really liked it now I play it on pc the one thing I would say the ps2 has over the pc is the vehicle sounds better I wonder if there is a mod to port the ps2 car sounds to pc?
I played this game on PS2 before the PC, and loved it. Still a great game.
You should take that point back whit the game paused when the map is open because the ps2 version haves a fully working mini map on the top left while pc version docent
You Americans wanted it, here you have
i owned it and when i reach the mission (sarah) the load will stuck , i remember that i left my ps2 for 2 day hopefully it will be loaded , but nuh it still stuck XD
I now what this game thank you me for pre ordering it
ı" played ps 2 series 2016 😢😢😢 good days ••••••