Ryan's Jiu-jitsu Journey: Learning from the Old Traditional Gracies - Kama Vlog
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I really appreciate your time, wisdom & teachings.. 59year BJJ old brown belt /Muay Thai staying on the path forever❤️🙏🙏
Keep the talks going! Instructional videos are everywhere & yours would be amongst the top, but the history, experience and wisdom you share is hard to come by. I was making coffee & prepping for class as I listened to this.
Respect sir I enjoy listening this can apply to many schools
Love your videos Ryan. Self defense is paramount. Training with strikes in mind is the difference, gi or no gi.
This is cool. I always wondered why you didn't do technical videos. I like the format, because there are already a billion technical videos... they're a dime a dozen, but this is fairly rare.
Professor Ryan you are a true OG. Mahalos for the knowledge and the insight you provide without even stepping on the mats
Professor Ryan love the video and please keep them coming. This is Evan Robinson who reached out to you the other day on FaceBook. Thank You for always keeping us informed with all your knowledge.
Ryan is a great story teller . I'm letteraly watching this in my cozy bed, and I love it
I remember you from the Gracie Academy back in the day. Good to see you are doing well!
Back in the day!
You bring a very uplifting and no nonsense spirit. I practice a different style of japanese/American jujitsu but return kama/rickson jiujitsu to it to make it better. Thank you for your channel and rickson for the self defense unit. It is very hard to find self defense based bjj! Thanks again for your effort.
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. We really appreciate you!
Ryan Young vs. Buchecha is a street fight. Buchecha is EVERYTHING Ryan talks down on. He’s sport oriented with zero self defense background. Ryan on the other hand says size doesn’t matter and sport guys can’t adequately defend themselves in the street. That said, him vs. buchecha would be fun to watch, and I’m sure it would be quick! Lol
When I was his age, I’d have certainly done it. I might lose in the end, but I would have CERTAINLY done it.
Even with the 80lbs difference.
You and I “came up” in different “ages” of Jiu-Jitsu.
You are just killin' it Professor! Many, many, people love to hear someone with your personality talk about everything jiu jitsu! Especially since your experience spans over generations from original Gracies to the modern era! #RealJiuJitsu
Ryan...love the channel!! I'm a brown belt and I really enjoy you're insight on the subject. You are a true ambassador of the martial art. Thank you sir. OSS
Thank you!
Great video. Excited to see where my journey takes me
Live to hear these stories of Jiu jitsu journeys. 🤙🏽
It’s awesome and great to feel it, but being able to re-wind and see in slow motion is so nice.
Great listen, thank you for the lessons sir🙏🏼
Great video...thanks Ryan!
Deep and wise words from such a young man :)
Please don’t forget prof Okazaki from Hawaii. He was teaching jujitsu long before the Gracies were even on the island. Granted it is Japanese Jujitsu but we’re all from the same tree and it should be noted. 🤙
Not the same thing at all, jap jitsu has nothing g to do with bjj.
scarred10 wow the ignorance.
Hi I live In Chicago IL and when I started traditional jujitsu in 2008. They still did the one glove ground and pound. It was So much fun. I got my first scar in Jujitsu and many after that. I felt like those are my tattoos for jujitsu.
Where did you train? No offense but getting scars training is stupid and you must've been training under a psycho nutcase.
My coach is Paul Joyner. he trained with relson in Hawaii back in the day and he was on Relson’s competition team. Have you ever met him? He always talks about how Relson was so big on self defense first that’s why we have regular self defense bjj classes and competition bjj class to separate sport and self defense.
🤔 I’m really not sure. I was at GM Relson’s academy from sometime in late1989 to May 1992.
My 2 daughter are young 7 & 13 . But I was debating which martial arts I should put them in . Then I started watching your videos and make me think BJJ is the best for them. Thank you for making me understand the true meaning of BJJ of your other videos I seen . I know this is the best for my girls ty!!!
Love your videos brah
Mahalo 🙏.
I wanna visit this guys gym and train for a day. Awesome dude.
Come on by!
1989 sheesh give this man his coral belt
5:15 *....BUT MOMMA.... THAT'S WHERE THE FUN IS!!!!!!* :)
Thanks for this amazing history. Since you were there, could you briefly describe for us the difference in the style and approach of Jiu-Jitsu between the two sides of the family? Was is mainly a focus on fundamentals? And although there is now a sport and a traditional difference, was it that way back then?Thank you for your valuable historical experience.
Been involved in the martial arts for nearly 30 years. Started cross training in jiu-jitsu nearly 10 years ago, but because LA is so damn expensive in all fronts I had to take long hiatuses from formal training. Now I'm like over an hour to nearly three hours away from Houston, Austin and San Antonio with not a jiu-jitsu school in sight. Definitely makes me regret not taking those extra over time hours at work.
We’ll have a nearby solution VERY soon!
I found that people are much more interested if they learn self defense in their first bjj class (meaning how to defend punches, close the distance, get the takedown, etc, not the rehearsed sequences). After learning those basic skills they will naturally develop interest in becoming better against other people who also know jiujitsu and therefore want to learn the sport. As Rener Gracie put it, self defense is jiujitsu against someone who doesn't know jiujitsu, sport jiujitsu is jiujitsu against other jiujitsu people.
that was really interesting
This is a perfect video to show every single casual out there who constantly says "there is no striking in BJJ" because they only know sports BJJ.
Striking is not a materials in sport BJJ, same as Judo and even in real training, there are no striking, punching or kicking even it exists in Judo Curriculum.
@@m5a1stuart83 you are incorrect. Check out the original kodokan judo curriculum. Striking is a part of it.
@@MTNMAX88 No, there is no striking in Kodokan Judo Ruleset Tournaments.
Hey Ryan big fan of the channel, love the info you put out. I have a question involving the school. Is there any plans to move the school closer to the fort Worth area or even Arlington area. I live in Southwest Fort Worth and going to kama on the daily is out the question. I'm also trying to learn self defence/invisible jiu jitsu and wonder if I should bother with the schools around here since everything is sport oriented. Gracie garage is an idea in my head right now and could go to kama taking privates to make sure my technique is sharp. Idk if anyone can help me come up with a good solution it's you, also any Gracie University online curriculum stuff you got I would absorb like a sponge. Thanks, Antonio
Hello. Thanks you for sharing your knowledge and your wisdom, like an onion, layer after layer 😀. Btw why Gracie first name usually begin with R : Rickson, Roger, Relson, Royce... (but not Helio ) ?
Love your commentary Ryan. Awesome stuff. Would love to meet you one of these days. Come visit PHILIPPINES. It is paradise and a great jiu jitsu community.
Maybe one day...
Ye they definitely help for sure you are probably responsible for helping someone make a very important decision on wat and wer they go for there jujitsu and in years to come some people will thank you for helping them make the Wright choice
Why is Iowa not CA/TX? I'm going to try a school in town tomorrow (there's really only one), but, having watched quite a number of your videos now, I can tell you guys know your stuff.
Sounds like someone lived in the unincorporated part of Torrance! I feel you man!
L.A. Strip aka Harbor Gateway aka Tortilla Flats.
Hi Ryan, Love your videos and I'm actually something like a fan. Now I have a question, would be cool if it gets an answer from you :-) The thing is, we don't have any tradition bjj schools the country where I live so I signed up in a gym that does bjj gi and no gi, kickboxing and some mixed..kind of what you mention in this video. The thing is I'd really like to graduate in bjj but therefore I feel I'd need to mainly attendance gi. Although, I'd like to progress in the other combat styles as well...they really fall behind because I feel if that if I don't go to the gi training at least 3 times a week, I will not progress belt wise...but I'd like to do more kickboxing and no gi but there's not that much of motivation because there's no way to climb a hierarchy...not sure how I should handle this...what would be your advice. Thanks. Love your videos. Regars.
Very cool, I just watched your vlog on "Ryan's jiu-jitsu journey". Did not know that Ryan had trained with ken Gabrialson. very few people have heard of him these days. It was Ken and Reylson Gracie that we first brought to Canada in July of 1993 for the "founding of Brazilian jiu-jitu in Canada". Reylson's self defense curriculum had a profound influence on the development of my Jiu-jitsu curriculum; and I think people can really benefit from his expanded and highly technical self-defense methods. were you able to adsorb that curriculum from ken and Rod?
Thank you for the videos! I’m actually getting into bjj b/c of your videos.
Nice!
I'd love to see some technique videos!
They’re all here.
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Great video and I really enjoy the stuff you put up. I just started training last year under Anibal Lobo (Rickson childhood friend), and it’s straight Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Just curious what brand gi that is. Is it hemp?
It’s the Kama Jiu-Jitsu (brand) Black Hemp model.
Baret told me a funny story about Sheldon. He had his own parking spot at GU and some guy came to check out the gym and parked in Sheldon’s spot. When Sheldon got there he boxed the guy in. All night the guy was asking who’s car it was and if someone could move it because he needed to leave and no one said anything. Sheldon just ignored him. After Sheldon was done training a couple of hours later he got in his car and left haha.
Hey Ryan, been watching your videos for a while now. What's your take on GJJ blackbelts vs a sport jiu jitsu blackbelt?
some common characteristics and common knowledge (the overlap), but on the edges, differing skillsets and mentalities.
Hello Professor, Thank you for sharing your knowledge of jujitsu. I am in the New York City area. The borough of Queens, to be exact. We have an abundance of sport jujitsu academics in New York. And it’s unfortunate that most of the people that train jujitsu here. They have no idea about the self defense aspect of jujitsu. They compete in a few tournaments. And think they are well rounded. I am surprised at how few or little traditional jujitsu academics are here. Do you know of any traditional jujitsu academics in New York. I figured there has to be some here. In my search. I did not find. But, you on someone that reads this could refer me to one. Thanks. Oss!
I always suggest you join us at Dave Kama’s online teaching site www.kamajiujitsu.com/memberships/
As far as finding an actual studio teaching an emphasis on self defense concepts, the ONLY thing I can offer you (and in the end, I may still fail you here), is to look to join an academy near you that is affiliated with a master who has a reputation for stressing Jiu-Jitsu as a self-defense art such as Relson Gracie, Royce Gracie, or Pedro Sauer. Keep in mind, that even with these affiliates, you will NOT be learning from those masters directly.
It’s all up to the school owner.
Hi Ryan, I watched many of your videos as part of my research into BJJ/GJJ with the intention of trying it out. I have to say, even as someone who knows almost nothing about jiu-jitsu (except a couple of years of judo newaza without chokes and locks), I found the videos I watched informative and oddly entertaining.
I apologize if a similar topic has been covered but I found that the best option for me to start GJJ/BJJ would be at a Gracie Academy Certified Training Centre, with my other options being a Gracie Barra school and a few MMA gyms. How well does the Gracie Combatives system do you conform to the ideals of traditional Gracie Jiu-Jitsu as you know it? Would that be a good place for me to start as an early 40’s, non-athletic individual?
They’re pretty close.
Being that you got to train in both Gracie lineages (Carlos/Helio), what did you find different technique wise? similar? Thanks for sharing your story!
One thing of note I noticed, was the Helio’s side preferred closed guard, while Carlos’ side that I came across preferred open guard.
But there are others.
Helio's side are tall with long, skinny legs so closed guard. Carlson's side not so much so more open guard
Love your videos. What do you see self defense evolving into in the future? Also can you speak about pride and ego and why we have soo much of it in art and sport that prides itself on humility?
that part about the ego going unchecked is something that seems to pop up a lot in jiu-jitsu in general, depending on who was their teacher. sad, but it happens.
I train at a school who is a pedro sauer affiliate. We focus on self defense and safety of training and rolling. Your videos and style of jiu jitsu is very inspiring to us we all follow you and you 're lineage with great respect. Hopefully the art and culture turns back towards humility and RESPECT. Thank you for all that you do for the art.
Thank you, Anthony.
I think the sport aspect has alot to do with the ego part.
Hey Ryan,
Quick question for you sir. How do you train new students to the school. Do you start with day 1, if your regular students are in class?
If I have another instructor in class when the new student attends, definitely.
At 5:52 agreed 1,000% 8:48 back then every blue could beat the whites and every purple could beat the blues. You could pretty much walk into any Gracie Jiu-jitsu academy and know where you stood. Not so much anymore.
dragonballjiujitsu the waters are very murky a lot of sand bagging for sport Jiu Jitsu
Hi Ryan I'm a Black Belt in Half a GI...lol
Hi Ryan.. I'm 62 & in Great Shape.. Yoga swimming karate boxing Long distance running Gymnastics ect.. Am I too old for Bjj.. I live 20 min from Tristar Gym ( Feras Zahabi) George St. Pierre Trains there ... AM I TOO OLD ..???
Professor, have you ever had a chance to train with Ralph Gracie? ty
No, I never got that chance.
What to choose, a bjj gym with purple belt teaching and there is a self defense curriculum OR another bjj gym with a black belt who teaches only sport bjj, thx.
If it’s one of our purple belts, DEFINITELY, choose the purple belt. 😂
What do you think about all these people claiming to be self-defense experts and stating that bjj would not work in a real fight? They claim that there are alot of variables in the street like multiple opponents, weapons etc... I believe in BJJ as a practitioner, but was wondering what was your take on this subject.
they are actually right and wrong, right, because you dont know who you are dealing with, their friends, weapons, and so on. if you take your opponent to the ground, you will end up winning or being hurt by rocks or any weapon nearby or even him carrying it. if you really want to take it to the ground you need to make sure you can submit him in short time. if you face someone that know how to wrestling, on concrete? you are screwed. Avoid street fight if necessary, put some protection stance (hands up guarding your chin and head), punch or kick for self defense only by aiming human weak body. And run from the scene, if you really sure your opponent just one, submit him as soon as possible.
Hey Ryan I’ve been doing Jiu Jitsu for 6ish months and I do sport no gi Jiu-Jitsu but what’s your policy on visitors who want to stop by?
come on by, pay the drop in fee, train. that's about it.
1989!?
Very intressting Journey , Jujitsu Its kind of a religion to you . I feel the same Way about judo , different art
But the same roots .
Hey Ryan. What do you think of 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu? I don’t belong to a 10th planet gym. Just curious what your views are on this system. Thanks
Don’t know much about their system, TBH.
Okay. Thanks.
Tom Mireles 10th Planet was started by Master Eddie Bravo. His original stated goal was to develop a no Gi MMA Guard.
This means his goal was competition/sport oriented.
Since the early days, the style has attracted competitors, and they have become very sport oriented.
They do not train in the Gi. You will not find any self defense training in their style.
Back in 98 I remember paying 100 per month for 2X per week for bjj. I was also doing american/japanese jj for $60 per month at that time for unlimited. The bjj was so much more worth it.
Do you know of a school/Professor in Houston Texas teaching the “old school” or traditional fundamental jiujitsu?
I’m sorry, I don’t. You can try Prof Leo Xavier in Sugarland, perhaps.
@@KamaJiuJitsu thanks for the reply Professor
Ed Parker Kenpo .?
when will you be a 3rd degree black belt in BJJ?
Whenever my master deems me worthy of it. I just got my seconddegree this year, though, so it’ll be a while.
Professor Ryan, can you please make a video explaining how good rickson was and all the miracles he does during rolling? I still do not understand why everybody says he is unbelievable
Prof Jack Taufer did one a while back. A very popular video for us. In case you haven't seen it yet. czcams.com/video/bimTQ4l5060/video.html
I have seen it, but more of it pleaseeeeeee
Coz I like how u explain things...Prof jack just told what happened
Professor, how do you think prime Rickson would have done against guys like Robert Drysdale n jacare, with the darce n anaconda choke which were not around at ricksons time?
All we know, is that Rickson beat all the best of HIS time.
Hi Ryan I want to ask a question I know this video is from 2019 but it has nothing to do with the video I am on Bluebell for school I want them getting a disability and I want to go back to to jujitsu my daughter gave me the OK I had some heart problems and I want to go back to it what’s your opinion on people with disabilities
Train if you can.
What is your take on combat juijitsu?
I like it. Much more useful to me than sport BJJ.
Hi, i live in tapachula chiapas mexico, frontier with guatemala, can you recommend me a place with a great techer either in mexico or guatemala?
i wish i could. i don't know any instructors (let alone "good" instructors i could recommend) there. i only know one in Mexicali.
@@KamaJiuJitsu okay thank you anyway
But Before my Black Belt I was a Brown Belt in Speedo Gi...
Doesn't Carlos Machado have a school in your parts? You wouldn't consider him Old Traditional?
Master Carlos is a GRACIE family member named Machado.
The Machado’s are more sport JJ who mostly came up through Gracie Barra, with Jean Jacque being the exception and the one Rickson personally trained.
What kind of gi are you wearing? Looks comfortable.
That’s a Kama Jiu-Jitsu Brand Hemp.
@@KamaJiuJitsu I'm sure you've mentioned it in a past video,.... but how do I get one ?
Email me your size and your address. We’ll invoice you and send it out (if we have your size available).
@@KamaJiuJitsu A2L or A3 if it shrinks a lot. I'm 177lbs and 5' 10.5" with longer arms than usual... lol
i have one or two A2L left, if you want one. email us at KamaJiuJitsu@gmail.com and i'll get you set up.
How would you compare Krav Maga to Gracie Jiu Jitsu?
If the KM guy can debilitate the GJJ guy in the “pocket” on the way to the clinch, KM wins.
Otherwise, GJJ all day long.
I have questions without answers? Perhaps that is why my work is not finished, like if you roll half clock your head is pointed into the small circle, if you roll full clock your head is pointed outside the circle if you string two of either together you come up with a half and half rolling through the yin yang positions inside a larger circle, where when you enter or exit from the inside to the outside you are effectively either head out or head in in the same position. You can then roll over once completely and be at a 45 where you can go back into the center, and same at each 45 from there, in pa kua they do this with forward step, in karate they do this with a reverse turning 185 step to another 1 step. And the end up in the same orientation thinking that the outside structure works on the late heaven sequence where your top line goes negative positive negative positive in succession is your mount guard or any of the other half clock positions on a 45 and the inside work is on a 90. My question is what does the difference between the head out and the head in on the outside circle translate to on the early late heaven circuit?
Or is there some kind of a 185 degree roll I'm missing
exactly
that, too.
I understand your point of view if were talking self-defence or a fight. However you have to remember that sport is different and yes while you need to look for the submissions often times you can also win by points and should do that. Winning by a submission is winning a fight but winning by points is winning a match and often times you need to do both. Remember that sport is a safe way to test yourself and not a real fight. You want your students to win by subs then there are submission only comps that you guys can do whenever you want too. Your not a comp school but its always go to test your jiu-jitsu or grappling in a different area. Just my opinion.
and we do test in different areas. we've done sub onlys, IBJJF, RGC, JJWL, and a couple others over the years.
Where in Texas are you located professor?
Dallas/Fort Worth
@@KamaJiuJitsu thank you. I might be moving to Dallas this next year
Great place to live. Great people.
Looking at housing in Dallas
Our DFW studio (if you’re planning to make KJJ your home) is in Flower Mound.
After ten years off or more of jiu-jitsu and changing name by marriage is it okay to start as white belt again?
I would think so. But ask your new professor to confirm. KJJ just had a black belt from another country who hasn’t trained since Covid lockdowns start as a white belt. Not KJJ’s call - his own call.
Who was in the S.F. south bay area in the early 90s, 91-92?
Carley, IIRC
What area of TX?
Flower Mound. Part of Dallas/Ft Worth.
@@KamaJiuJitsu I work with a lot of Military that head out to TX. Always looking for good gyms to send them too.
How old are you back then?
In the video? 51.
@@KamaJiuJitsu wow
@@KamaJiuJitsu what is the best way to practice my basics if I don't have partner. Specially now that we have a pandemic and I can go outside and train with anyone.
Choose anyone who would like to learn alongside you. If you pick up on a system available online like Kama Jiu-jitsu Online (or something similar, if you can find it), you’ll still get most of the benefits on training in the actual academy.
So, do you feel that Eddie Bravo, Gordon Ryan, or even Jordan Burroughs can’t use their respective skills in a fight because they don’t train with a gi...? They still have to secure grips, which is overall harder when you don’t have “handles” to use...
Master Eddie has a ton of Gi experience, now his students...and that is the point.
Master Eddie openly focuses on sport MMA.
I always enjoy ur honesty and concern for being the best teacher u can be but why do all Rickson devotees ignore what Sakuraba accomplished as a grappler? at 169 pounds even meeker in build then Royce wouldnt he be the greatest grappler of all time? No defeat deterred him fought all comers no matter size or discipline
Why would someone on the Rickson JJ lineage spend time making a video about a Japanese Catch Wrestler?
What you are doing is being a jerk without trying to totally look like one. You are disrespectful.
@@samuraisteve2775 not sure whom im disrespecting i was addressing Ryans comment about Rickson being not only worlds greatest grappler but greatest fighter of all time perhaps he shoulda said greatest BJJ player Carlos Gracie himself said Ricksons 400 fights was joke
You'll NEVER fight someone one the street with either u in a GI nor your attackers in a GI. Gi is USELESS in real life....unless you are in the Ming dynasty cerca a long ass time ago
you gonna fight nekked?
I was mislead about self defense and why we shouldn’t actually focus on it. Jesus says “if they strike you, turn and give them the other.” This is so we remain innocent and show forgiveness like He did when He was innocent but persecuted. The Bible also says “Fear not that can kill the body, but not the soul. Fear the one who can kill both body and soul in hell.” Amen! So even as a patriotic American, it’s a tough line to see when we fight and we when don’t. Praise the Father in Heaven. I hope this BJJ stuff isn’t leading into a cult or pseudo religion. Matt time is a hobby, a business, a sport. Not a soul saver. Amen! I had to learn this after 4 years of no gi.
For faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things unseen, I have the keys to hell and death and my reward is with me, follow me and I will make you fishers of men, for those who overcome I will be there god and they will be my son, some laid in the grave waiting for a more glorious resurrection, when the Lord God calls surely I come quickly even so come lord jesus may the grace of the Lord jesus christ be with us all amen, carry neither script, nor purse, nor sword and salute no man by the way. "Birth Death burial resurrection" I am the way, the truth, and the life. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever belivith in him shall not Parrish but have everlasting life. I'm also a Christian, and I'm a martial artist it's all about who's in charge it's not us it's god. And a person can kill another but the reason they don't is because God can kill you more than once.
Wonderful journey that you have had, and are having, in Jiu Jitsu professor. Thank you for sharing. You know when I think of it, it is really curious how GRACIE jiu jitsu is only a little less difficult to find today as it was so many years ago. Yet on every corner to one sees "brazilian Jiu jitsu" though it is not what Royce Gracie walked into the octagon with in 1993. I studied BRAZILIAN jiujitsu for 10 years before I heard an instructor say "self defense" ONCE during a class. I am a purple belt now and I am amazed to think I have NEVER studied "Gracie" jiu jitsu which started it all. Love your channel, keep up the wonderful work. THank you.
Thank you for your continued attention and comments!