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also, companies making statements about ‘employees’ frequently do not include the third party warehouse seamstresses / lower paid workers. when they say employees can get sick leave, they mean shein corporate / higher ups because the supply chain allows that to not be a lie.
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Yep. They didn’t use all inclusive wording like ‘all workers’ so they can get away with it if anyone complains
Doublespeak
@@georginahaler9331 technically they're not lying, so if they run into legal or public image issues, they can bring up that they didn't exactly lie.
this is so important fast fashion is making a resurgence rn and they have bad quality and exploit their workers :( i will admit i made the mistake of buying stuff from shein but your vids on fast fashion are helping me in my journey to stop
It's really hard to not want to buy stuff from there when you don't have much money. As long as capitalism exists, there will be people supplying demand. We are the rich white westerns who can afford to buy clothes and then throw half of them out if they are not ideal. Maybe thrifting is a good option for clothing, but the everyday person cannot afford to buy only local items and food for everything - that's just the way the market works today and we shouldn't have to feel guilty about literally everything we buy since so much about the supply chain is not within our control.
I have also heard that Shein and companies are just dropshipping companies who buy products from stores listed on AliExpress.
@@saraha2667 I can't afford any clothing item over 10/15€ and there are no thrift shops I can have access to in my area. What should someone in my position do? I consume my clothes/shoes to the max, I don't follow trends nor do I throw away good clothes. But I am a student with no income and that's the best I can afford. Right now I will never be able to get rid of fast fashion, and I think that assuming everyone is in the position to do so is entitled and unaware of their privilege.
Federica i know its hard, but you can try to cut back your clothing consumption. save up and buy higher quality clothing. if you cant do this, thats okay, you are doing the best you can. not throwing out clothing and limiting how much fast fashion you buy is enough!
@@ChicaStones even if there aren't 2nd hand shops, you could see if there are car boot sales, or "vide-dressing" (can't remember the English word 😂) like when someone is selling the clothes they don't want to wear anymore, one time sales tend to not be very expensive, look up Facebook groups and instagram pages for your area, there might be some people selling clothes around there
@@harmanjaswal3582 Same advice as Harman and minimooster and I'd add Vinted, Poshmark too ! From one broke college student to another ;)
Sarah, another major issue that I would love you to address are sellers on Depop who buy tons of shein and romwe items and sale them marked up! I have noticed this as an ongoing issue. Many of the sellers cut out the brand tags, then if you ask the brand they say "it is unbranded" or "I thrifted it, not sure".
I called one girl out for having items I saw on shein. This is when I still shopped at shein and didn't know better. Anyways, she got so mad at me and we argued for about 10 minutes before she blocked me. To put it in perspective, she had literally 100k depop followers. Insane. The item in question was a tank top she was selling for $45 that shein sales for $8.
It was so painfully obvious as most of her items were shein, but I just called her out on the one because it had the most insane markup.
If you want links to see for yourself, I can provide via email.
Yuk. As a Depop seller and consumer: this is such an atrocious thing to do.
Ugh I’ve seen this sooo much on depop. Thanks for pointing it out.
also I would love to see just a general discussion of upselling on depop/poshmark. I see so many people thrift stuff for like 4-10 bucks then are listing it for $30-40. it's so icky to me
@kfreshify I definitely understand all that and it's different when people are fixing things up or "flipping" the items, but if you're just going to the store & buying a tshirt for $3.50 then coming home and selling it as is for $45, I think there's an issue. there's a lot of people who turn it into their own sort of business/DIY store and I don't have a problem with that.
Related to the upcharging, one thing I don’t see addressed much about selling thrifted items on depop and the like as a full time job is just how much the sellers are taking from their local community. Secondhand stores are ultimately for people who need the affordability. I say this as someone who thrifts all the time for vintage pieces, but it seems unethical to me to get carts of things from every store around you just to resell.
Man why is everything I can afford problematic 😫
Butter Chimchim exactly I don’t care im still shopping there
if its the only thing you can afford, keep shopping there. its classist to shame low income people for buying fast fashion, dont let anybody shame you for that. the only time people who purchase fast fashion should be looked down upon is if they have the money and resources to avoid it
@@simiki. thank you 💓💓💓
try depop!!
Gurl!! 😂😂😂
Can everyone in the comments stop saying “just go thrifting,” when people keep saying they buy from SHEIN because they’re poor. Because thrifting has become trendy, rich kids go there all of the time and there is never any clothes left for actual poor kids.
Exactly. Shein has always been good I’ve never had a bad experience and literally all of our phones and shoes are made through fast fashion. Nike, IPhone, Samsung, Adidas. I don’t have money so that’s why I always shop at shein
Things on vinted/ebay/facebook are still very cheap. You are Not looking. I just got 20€ Designer mom jeans on vinted.
Sui Des i’ve never heard of vinted.. thanks for the suggestion !
Sui Des you used to be able to buy jeans for 3$ at Goodwill before thrifting got trendy. You can buy brand new clothes at Walmart for 20$
@@vampiricvirgo what you're saying makes no sense. So when a thrifted jeans and a new jeans both cost the same... why wouldn't you just buy the thrifted one? You make no loss. Yeah, in the past it was cheaper but it istn't anymore, which is good. Staff can get paid more, or they can hire more staff, rent huger show rooms idk.
Shein has emailed me once a month or so for over a year and they keep going ??? I’ve never answered
hi giulia
I LOVE YOU
My other favourite queen🤩💜
Hahaha wtf!!! That's insane!
hi giulia just wanna say i hope you're okay and things will get better soon.
I think it's important to note that even companies that don't sell suspiciously low priced items can also have unethical practices.
I remember when I thought that Urban outfitters were ethical because of the prices.. pfft
Yes! Even luxury brands underpay workers! Just to maximize profit
Yes especially cell phone companies.
@@denizemilyofficial hahaha pls you’re better off buying from shein
Oh...Thank you never thought about it.
me rn wearing my shein tank top 👁👄👁
Me lol
Me after just placing an order a few days ago 👁👄👁
Destiny Carlton LITERALLY ME
The profile picture tells it all 😂
SAME
Am I the only one who reads the reviews on stuff and when the reviews satisfy me I buy it....?
people dont do that?
@@cerenb7909 What??? That’s a very common thing to do-
@ARMY PLUIS In this case it’s not the specific items that are bad it’s the whole brand itself so you can’t really read a review of a brand as a whole.
@@fuck_youtube_handles i think they meant it like "wait, some people don't do that? i thought everyone did"
@@renatagoncalves4576 Oh, right.
Ok no joke, I literally have 6 shirts from Shein that I've had for a year and a half. No rips, no weird smell, comfy material. What are people doing that rips a shirt?
ok but it still is UNETHICAL and REALLY BAD FOR ENVIRONMENT
@@simiki. do you think somebody who is poor would care about sustainability and for the environment
@@ryujinshoulders2227 well we still should...what about those workers working for shein? they = make wayyyyy less than us and by supporting this brand its gonna be even worse for them. we have to think abt them too not just ourselves
i know that so many places are so expensive like $200 for a shirt?? that's insane but im still going to try my best to get ethical clothing build a ethical closet
also a lot of more expensive brands are doing big summer sales keep a eye out for them!!
ryujinshoulders exactly lmaoao 😂like what
sys 777 yeh I got them whilst below the poverty line so excuse me
can you put captions or auto cap for us deaf folks?
Agreed!
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yeah every youtuber should have them
@@zoha6731 Yeah, but i know sometimes they have to pay for captions and theyre expensive, and the auto generated ones are barely ever right. :-/ It's hard for them but hard for us too LOL !
Bumping so hopefully she sees
Omgg especially during the summertime all you can find are these fast fashion bikini hauls and the CZcamsr will always say something like “I literally got all of these for less than $50!!” Like... how do you not see anything wrong with that? Why do you think those bikinis r so cheap? Not to mention a lot of these youtubers will praise environmentalism and sustainability in other areas but not when it comes 2 clothes...
So will You get your bikinis from the thrift store
Maria Bravo no you get high quality ones produced by people paid a good wage and are made out of natural fibers :)
SilentBanshee oh where can you get that from ?
Ils volent aussi les motifs et designs à des plus petits designers et créateurs. 😩
People are poor...
I feel like brandy Melville is way worse because they’re stuff is from China too, they’re fast fashion, they’re not body positive or diverse, promoting unrealistic bodies, their workers are really rude, and it’s so incredibly expensive.
edit (one year later): ok this comment is super wrong on a multitude of levels. i personally think that the social impact of brandy melville has been worse than shein, but shein is a horrible brand. do NOT buy from shein. their environmental impact is horrible, and the way they treat their workers is disgusting. please please PLEASE do not shop from shein.
on top of that, the second something is taken off of their website, it’s suddenly super “rare” and triples in price on sites like mercari and depop lol
Nike had a big p.r. issue with their policies and who and where they hired back in late 90s. It was a big deal. Probably not many remember now.
I thought the only good thing about brandy is that they're stuff is made in Italy (and ethically produced)
I agree with your other points, but I don’t think they’re promoting unrealistic bodies? All of their models are skinny, but (I’ve heard that)a lot of the time skinny people have a hard time shopping because a lot of things aren’t they’re size. They’re problem is that they didn’t market it as a petit shop.
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not really unrealistic but they're being exclusive and I literally know someone who has an ED and one of her "motivators" is to fit into Brandy.
Also I've never seen a store that didn't have a size 2 (what Brandy says their one size is) so its not an accessibility issue, my sister was a 00 and she never had issues buying clothes except for the fact that they didn't fit her chest right, in which Brandy would be no different.
Plus size stores are to make up for the fact that most stores stop at an XL and also plus sized stores have more than 1 size.
Just remember to not shame every single person who buys from fast fashion brands since thats all a lot of ppl can afford(and the shein clothes i got are surprisingly pretty decent quality). But obviously rich youtubers buying from them.....they deserve to be roasted
Sure! However I think that there is a difference between criticising a brand, criticising the culture of "clothes' haul" and shaming people that can't afford anything else. Buying ethical is not an option for many unfortunately, and thus it is on people for whom buying clothes is a commodity to buy ethically. Also I don't completely like thrift hauls either: I think it just shifts the same consumeristic approach to buying habits to a new target, and the fad results in increases in price for those who used to buy secondhand as a means to cut expenses
@@simiki. The time to find clothes is an asset in itself though: if you are a mother of two that works three jobs you are not going to spend hours looking through sites to find baby clothes the right size that are going to not fit your child in 3 months anyway.
@@simiki. why can't you understand not everyone wants SECOND HAND clothing, the only laziness I see is your mindset
Frank'n'Stein baby clothes are easy to find on Facebook groups! People get tons and tons of baby clothes that their kid never even wears a lot of the times or only wears once or twice. Children’s resale groups are an AMAZING place to find cheap nice kids clothes! They also grow out of clothes and need new ones quickly so a lot of people will sell they’re stuff for cheap just so they can buy clothes that fit their kids now
sys 777 exactly! They’re like “but it’s cute and like $2! Thrifted clothes aren’t cute! Like so what if some abused unpaid kid in a third world country made it! it has pretty flowers and knockout designer logos on it and I want everyone to think I’m rich and wearing urban or brandy!!”
i’m convinced places like forever21 and asos ... get their stuff from companies like shein but just sell them for higher.
definitely
i cant get over how they rip indie creators off they ripped of wild modes underwear sets off and didn't even deny it
i’ve been pronouncing it like “shine” this whole time lmao
I have been saying “Sheen”. Hahahah
@@karennotAkaren1 I've been saying she-en/shine/sheen - however you say it everytime I bring it up haha
@@karennotAkaren1 me too.🤣
I’ve been saying ‘shane’
same lol
anyone whos looking for cheap options for clothes and can't thrift rn bc corona: EBAY!! its not usually thought of as a clothes place, but there are a lot of people selling old/vintage cute stuff on there for super cheap! there's not a weird reselling/upcharge cult on there like depop or other places like that, its actually people just getting rid of old stuff!! (not thrifting stuff in hopes to upsell it for wayyy more)
alexa kate Depop is great for clothes too
ive tried ebay but the website confuses me.. how do i find the cute stuff and is everything on there used/pre owned?
@@barbarasmith7663 you should have finished reading the rest of her comment
@@hani5107 you look up things, like "wool pants", and you use filters to choose the price, condition (new/used), etc...
hani ...yes just like depop.
“Online thrift stores exist” Except those are usually curated, which means they cost more. Or in the case of a site like ThredUp, their measurements are completely off and you can’t find anything you’d actually wear. IRL thrifting is incredibly hard for those who are plus size or who work full time jobs, you either can’t find your size or don’t have the time to find things that are your size. I’ve been poor most of my life and got most of my clothes from Forever 21 or Hot Topic when I was in middle school and high school until I started making my own money and could decide where to spend it. I don’t buy clothes too often now but when I do I still don’t have the means to spend a quarter of my paycheck on a pair of jeans, and no thrifting isn’t an option for me because I will never find a pair that fits over my big thighs and is flattering in any way. I am wholeheartedly for the cause of minimizing fast fashion, but it annoys me to see people who think they’re better than others because they “only thrift or only buy second hand”, that’s great for you! I’m glad you have that time or can afford it. There’s no reason to shame those who can’t do the same as you because they don’t have the same means. The main issue imo is that people who DO have the means to buy sustainable fashion don’t, they instead constantly buy big amounts from F21, Brandy Melville, and the likes. People who are struggling financially and occasionally place an order on SheIn because they need clothes for work or interviews are not causing the same amount of damage as those who have a choice.
@Janiya GowdySometimes people feel nice showing up somewhere in a new piece of clothing rather than the same tees they have been wearing for 3 years.
@Janiya Gowdy No poor person throws clothes out every few months, I'm wearing the same stuff I was wearing 3-4 years ago. Every once in and while I add onto to my collection because things do wear out and people grow. The first Romwe shirt I bought is going 3 years strong.
Bruh you could afford hot topic?
I’m poor and fat and here are ways that I’ve started cutting fast fashion out of my life:
1. Thrift when possible( this includes resale like Depop, etsy, thred up etc) thrifting is tricky when you’re larger, there’s not a ton of options so I don’t rely too much on that tbh
2. Clothing swap groups on Facebook and Instagram, you can find them in your area or start your own group! People pass along their gently loved clothes usually for free or cheap
3. Sew my own! I buy vintage fabric from estate sales or thrifting (sometimes sheets and curtains tbh) and make simple things for myself. Sewing is easy to learn and you can get tutorials on CZcams and patterns are cheap on Etsy
4.repurpose what I already have, old jeans are this years shorts or tailoring things I didn’t like to fit and be something I like
this is how u do it. or way way simpler: just don’t spend so much on shein and unethical clothing in general unless you actually need it
@@AISTOSEE blah blah blah
thrifting is more expensive
@@conchaelizabeth not always! I also don’t rely solely on thrifting. Some of the other options I mentioned like clothing swap groups are free! You can even join local “Buy Nothing” groups on Facebook and get free clothing that way as well as pass on things you no longer need. I think the whole point is to try to reduce your fast fashion use when possible and the issue is mostly like people who over consume, not regular people or low income people buying new items here and there. But when you see wealthy people spending $$$ on shein hauls you every month just to cycle through those clothes in a couple weeks that’s the real issue imo
This is such a coincidence. I was looking for ethical swimwear a few weeks ago and literally got an ad on the search page for Shein marketing itself as an ethical sustainable brand. I was so tempted to send a screenshot and be like “do you see this shit??” Honestly, such a scummy thing to do.
Not just TIkTok... there are "beautubers" who do fast fashion hauls constantly like Shein and Fashion Nova. I won't name names but you can probably pick 'em out. In fact one of them just posted a haul like yesterday. All positive comments and how cute everything is. NOOOOO.
Laura lee
lol
@@isitamoguel DING DING DING DING!
that's why i unsubscribed from prettypastelplease. i liked her personality but hated her support of exploitative companies and mindless consumerism
@@k3upikachu Yees, same. Prettypastelplease and Mia Maples too
@@k3upikachu it really sucks with prettypastelplease because she really loves thrift shopping and seems to be kinda against fast fashion but she seems too afraid that if she doesn't do those videos people won't like her.
Which sucks because I would love to see her do more cooking etc in her videos.
"I've been doing CZcams for 10 years"
Me: ...I....I thought u were like, 19. I--
Same here.
how old is she
@@cerenb7909 I posted that 4 months ago and didn't remember, so I Googled it and it says 30 so sounds about right.
I had them send me stuff for years, as a huge fashion consumer of fast fashion for years breaking the cycle had been so hard for me. They are one of the few company's that had improved their quality over the years so I held onto them. I just can't anymore with fast fashion, it has bugged me for so many years. This brand is the same as dolls kill with taking designs. I have to stay genuine to what I actually support now coming back to my channel.
It is so difficult to shop ethically, so many companies are absolute trash. Shopping from smaller brands/companies seems to be the best bet I've found but even then it's not always
@@deannamartin799 t h r i f t i n g
@@tijanaself897 not all thrift shops are what you see in CZcams
@@ryanfolley7446 yeah true
@@tijanaself897 Where I live in thrift shops they done clean the clothes before it's just right on the shelf what ever is "sellable" so you don't know about lice, or other things of the nature
Ethical fashion is inherently classist. Yes, I'd like to buy ethical clothing but simply cannot afford it. If I have the option of buying 5 different shirts for $50 or 1 shirt for $50 which one am I going to buy when I have bills, food, insurance, rent etc to pay?
You have to acknowledge the whole class privilege it takes to buy ethically. And also acknowledge that trendy kids and wannabe influencers go to thrift shops and buy the clothes that actual people could benefit from to upcycle them.
While a critique of fast fashion is needed your extreme privilege in this situation is showing.
A low once family with lots of kids cannot afford ethical fashion. If I had to pick between ethical fashion and food on the table imma eat.
Saving up money to buy clothes when mine are falling apart isn't happening.
Are you going to explain why you can't thrift?
@@tijanaself897 maybe she doesn't have access to any thrift stores I know in my town there are none you have to drive 8 hours just to find two in the next biggest town
Themooncircles - plus thrift stores don’t always have the right sizes or even good clothes at all... there are two thrift stores to the nearest city to me, but it is widely known that one has regular clothes while the other has mostly run down or dirty clothes (I once saw female shorts with bloodstains at the crotch when I was 6 and it’s not like they were hard to spot, the shorts were white). Despite the second option being cheaper I wouldn’t risk shopping there in case there are any health risks...
plus I’m 16 I like to look nice, I’m not gonna wear something that looks like someone puked on.
@@tijanaself897 thrift stores that I go to don't carry baby clothes. They are hard to get clothes that fit unless I have to spend extra money to get it tailored. Money I don't have. If you want this movement to work you have to have it accessable to poorer people and not blame them for not being able to do what you can do. Are you going to explain why you can't do that?
Themooncircles - ive personally even looked at online thrifting since people keep saying that’s an option since I don’t have a lot of thrift stores around me, and online thrifting is not that affordable either. I do my best to shop as ethical as I can, but I can’t afford most thrifting things because wig how much of a trend it is now a days that thrift stores are hiking up prices.
"our employees are just as important to us as our costumers"
if you are giving garbage clothes that smell horrible to your costumers then I don't want to know the condition of your employees
I mean I order from there before their clothes don’t smell bad but am never ordering from theme again
@@guliazolanski9157 You got lucky lmao....
I bought some clothing from shein and all of them were good quality and exactly like the picture. They didn’t have a smell. I’m confused
But all I ordered was good?
i order from shein/romwe all the time. the clothes last more than a year and don't smell bad. if they smell bad then just wash it, fivehead.
I remember when I was younger I spent all of my back to school money on stuff from Shein and everything I bought was horrible quality/fit really weird...my family was pretty poor and I felt SO guilty that I wasted their money on literal trash. It makes me sad that this is still happening to young teens who think they’re getting a good deal. (P.S. - I actually quit shopping fast fashion 3 years ago because of you!!)
Where do you shop now? I am trying to find online stores that aren’t fast fashion
LauraEtarhienyo wtf assos is still fast fashion but very expensive??????????? What are you thinking about ?
Second hand clothes. Try eBay, Vinted if u live in EU, Charity shops if you can, ask your relatives, and overall, try more basics clothes, avoid fast fashion trends and ads too, try to get a capsule wardrobe, custom clothes, sell clothes that you don’t like or don’t fit you so u can make money (don’t overprice them, let it be pretty cheap so other poor people can buy them), etc...
@@l.olivia865 How do people not understand thrifting is the cheapest alternative to fast fashion??? I don't understand what kind of answer these people expect when they are not ready to compromise a tiny bit of their privilege (new clothing) for being more ethical and CHEAPER
Fast fashion and even ethical fashion are incredible rip offs. The clothing is sold way too expensive for what the company actually pays to make them... But people still don't want to thrift???
@LauraEtarhienyo Maybe you need an update on what fast fashion is because you clearly dont know
Yeah, I'm not condoning by any means their lack of quality or how shady the company is. But here, in this video, it's so easy to talk from privilege and a first world country, but it's not the same in the whole world. I'm from México, our coin equals 0.045 of a dollar, the minimum wage here equals to 4 dollars FOR A WHOLE DAY OF WORK, please tell me where am I going to get the money for susteinable clothes or susteinable lifestyle if everything here is sooo expensive. Also, is not that easy to go thrifting because there's no stores such as goodwill or second hand stores, and with the arise of this "sustainable lifestyle" this second hand stores are just as pricey as a Brand new piece.
Stop shaming, we do our best with what we have.
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Exactly, plus, there is actually some really good quality clothing on shein. I've bought a dress and a swimsuit which are both good quality (nice material, no loose threads, good stitching etc). You just need to read the reviews, I made sure both the stuff i bought had reviews with pictures so I could get an idea of the fit etc.
you can go on eBay, thredUp and other online « thrift stores ». it’s easy to find pretty second hand clothing online. people are just lazy and want to find excuses to buy from shein
Jennifer Divine it’s still not ethical and sustainable
@@simiki. oh yes let's call the less fortunate lazy, what a good way to create discourse
I love everything I’ve gotten from SHEIN. Never had an issue with their stuff before, everything fits great and ive had no issues with quality. Tbh I had no idea they were problematic til seeing this title. 😳
the company is still unethical and bad for the planet
Did you use your credit card?
Reema Singh I hope they didn’t :c
For me about half the clothes I bought were awful. I got the peachy tee and it looked so cute but when I got it it looked like clothes for TODDLERS and on top of that I got a medium size although I’m a small.
Ellxie wait what’s wrong with using credit cards?
I started buying in July but never had any of these shipping problems?? Always got my items in 7-13 days. And Shein always take my refunds. Although there was one free trial product that took 2 months to arrive...
same, i’ve never had an issue with them - all the issues have been on my part. i bought a couple pairs of jeans and i bought the wrong size - i’m a medium and got a small. when people say the sizing isn’t great, a lot of the time it’s just checking the sizing and making sure you’re getting the right stuff
It is fast fashion tho
@@lenni332 we can’t stop fast fashion
@@lenni332 idc
@@lenni332 not everyone has the same money budget..
I’ve bought from shein a few times and have always had good experiences, but ik the hit or miss nature of it so I always did my research on each item I was buying. But once I started learning all about fast fashion it did weigh heavy on my heart.
However, I think about all the people who want to look and feel good, be on-trend etc and who cannot afford to do so. All the ethical and sustainable brands are hella expensive. Even thrifting or buying off depop a lot of things are overpriced considering they’re used. I have been trying to buy off depop if I can, but tbh a lot of times I get blown because someone is charging $20 for something I literally could have gotten off shein. I’m older and working, and trying to be more sustainable but still on a budget. What are the options for people who are on an even tighter budget? We always say don’t buy fast fashion, but we need better and more reliable alternatives than just saying go thrift. If that makes sense
i would love to know too! ive bought from shein a lot but recently ive been trying to stop buying from them, especially after finding out how problematic they are
I’m lowkey tired of people saying to go thrifting as an alternative because tbh a lot of ppl do it now days so it’s even harder to find anything cute that matches ones style.I really want to buy more sustainable clothes but atm i can’t afford any of it. I would really love to know other options
if you want to find slow fashion brands visit directory.goodonyou.eco/?_ga=2.81526288.627717045.1593112272-119720830.1581108783
because they rate brands based on their ethics and sustainability. If you want to purchase from slow/sustainable brands I recommend the brands that are rated "good" and "great". They did rate a lot sustainable brands that are in the cheaper side. But it will never be as cheap as some fast fashion brands because it is simply impossible to make ethical and sustainable clothing that are that cheap!
@@byesialater if you want to find slow fashion brands visit directory.goodonyou.eco/?_ga=2.81526288.627717045.1593112272-119720830.1581108783
because they rate brands based on their ethics and sustainability. If you want to purchase from slow/sustainable brands I recommend the brands that are rated "good" and "great". They did rate a lot sustainable brands that are in the cheaper side. But it will never be as cheap as some fast fashion brands because it is simply impossible to make ethical and sustainable clothing that are that cheap!
@@taeminsgf4275 if you want to find slow fashion brands visit directory.goodonyou.eco/?_ga=2.81526288.627717045.1593112272-119720830.1581108783
because they rate brands based on their ethics and sustainability. If you want to purchase from slow/sustainable brands I recommend the brands that are rated "good" and "great". They did rate a lot sustainable brands that are in the cheaper side. But it will never be as cheap as some fast fashion brands because it is simply impossible to make ethical and sustainable clothing that are that cheap!
Please call out companies like PrettyLittleThing, Missguided and InTheStyle. They're extremely popular in the UK and are extremely fast fashion based with shady business practices and a laughable standard of 'diversity' with the models and ambassadors they promote. They almost never hire black models or ambassadors, only white and tanned women apart from when BLM picked up this past month, and only then did they make a post for good publicity like a lot of companies but have not made any changes and are just doing it to save their own arses instead of actually making the needed changes and diversifying their business and marketing. Big thumbs down from me
PrettyLittleThing is trashhhh. I saw some influencers that i follow promoting the brand so i ordered a few things and let me tell you they look NOTHING like they do in pictures (especially on instagram).
me sat here in my missguided playboy tracksuit 👁👄👁
i could’ve swore that shein did the same exact thing . i HARDLY ever see any black models on there !!! but when i do it’s just a black lady in one piece clothing and not multiple, like these white models or women. i mainly always see white models on shein & since the protest started this year they had a big section for it (BLM Statement) & now that section is barely noticeable when u go on the app. stay woke 🥱.
dani It’s so sad, it’s easy for us to order from there with the huge discounts and up-to-date trends but I used to order from there too and every single item fell apart/smelt like plastic. I can’t afford most other brands and so like a lot of girls my age in the U.K. it’s a go-to but I don’t bother anymore for all of the reasons listed above including the quality
iiOcean absolutely agree. They treat it like a publicity opportunity instead of a direct slap-in-the-face reminder to update their policies and sort their shit out finally
girl you really be saving me today i have to write an essay on this 😌
I feel that
it really sucks that affordable clothing is almost required to be unethical. I just want to be able to feel good about the products I buy without going broke cause of it.
this.
Same. My family don’t have lots of money so it’s the only place I can shop obviously I don’t support their slavery and child labour but it is a what it is
@@tiffanydlo.x yea thats really difficult because companies obviously just want to make as much money as possible. My advice would be to reduce the amount you spend on fast fashion (when possible), and if you can you may be able to find some really good priced clothes for a lot less on mercari or ebay. But i do understand that alot of people overprice thrifted items online, if you look real hard you might be able to find some great pieces, but it does take time. Its helped me to do it that way: save up for good quality thrifted or handnade items, and when im really broke id buy a few pieces from fast fashion. Ive found some cute clothing items for 5-10 dollars on mercari. Dont worry too much, focus on whatever you can do with the resources you have.
@@tiffanydlo.x try depop, thredup, vinted, ebay, you 'll find clothes still with tag on at half price( also look for results outside us)
This whole video in my opinion screamed privilege I’m one of those people who can’t really fit or AFFORD ! Ethically sourced fashion products so I order from places like SHEIN because it fits and I don’t have money to spend on hand knitted sweaters and stuff like that and there are thrift stores but those are scarce and not always a good resource a lot of these comments just kinda sounded self righteous and turning a blind eye to the truth
EXACTLY samee
fr i feel rlly guilty from buying from fast fashion stores but those are the only things i find affordable. i tried to find clothing at "slow fashion" shops but the price of one top there is equivalent to the price of my whole cart @ a fast fashion shop. at the end of the day i'm a teenager so i don't make my own money so my parents buy the clothes and they think the cheaper the better so it's hard to transition to that kind of shopping.
you can go on eBay, thredUp and other online « thrift stores ». it’s easy to find cheap,pretty second hand clothing online. There’s a ton of them people are just lazy and want to find excuses to buy from shein
sys 777 i actually never heard of thredup but i'll now be using them thank you
sys 777 thredUp is hella expensive and they don’t have any good things. Also like others have stated, thrifting has some problems. For example, if you’re plus size it’s difficult to find stuff that fits, or if you’re working a lot you don’t have the time to invest in thrifting. Ebay isn’t a good resource for clothes either... people aren’t lazy if they simply can’t afford ethical clothing
it's not a fast-fashion company, but i would LOVE for you to make a video about everything wrong with tiktok-- the company, the "culture" of the app, the privacy policy, the harmful algorithm, etc. etc. (ik you've made several videos about specific aspects of tiktok and those are so helpful !! im talking more about the app itself, not necessarily just the people on it.) i try to explain to people just how horrible, damaging, and scummy the app and the company is, but it always seems like people are willfully ignorant or willing to push these issues aside. you're so well spoken and a video from you on this topic would be so imporant !!
i agree w you. tik tok used to be so fun but now it’s everyone trying to cancel and bring everybody else bad. it is so toxic and everyone gets mad at the littlest things and it’s just so tiring
I mainly stopped being TikTok bc of the toxicity of the app, and how addictive it is, once you scroll on your fyp, you can’t. Stop.
Sarah is like the Chris Hansen of Fast Fashion
omg 🤣
😂
Shein have a sit
LOL! Sarah to fast fashion brand: "Have a seat."
Why would you compare her to such a trashy human being
You have singlehandedly changed my view of fast fashion. I have often lived below the poverty line over the past few years. I also love clothing. And being able to treat myself with a $5 top at Forever 21 genuinely improved my mental health and made poverty easier to deal with. I’m not rich but things are better for me now. Fast fashion is still more in my budget, and I grew used to buying it, but I’ve started to save up and just wait to buy something more sustainable. And just start looking for alternatives to improve my mental health. I just never really thought of it before your videos and I appreciate the education
Buying second hand, such as depop and thrifting allows you to get nicer things for cheaper and because you're buying an older item it tends to prove that it'll last if that makes sense :)
You don't have to feel bad if you buy sth from time to time and when you really need it. I take care of my stuff, and because I was kinda poor like you, I've had to buy "fast fashion". But most of my clothes are over 5 years old, and still look good. So if you just take care of your stuff and don't buy huge amounts of things, you can still be a little sustainable at least :)
I have ordered from shein multiple times and had a great experience, but I know that others have not, and are against fast fashion whic I completely understand, no hate to ppl who shop there, I do too
I love SHEIN
me waiting for my 300$ order watching this like 👁👄👁
me 🤣🤣
@@emily0553 which ethical brands are there bc I can’t rlly find any atm
fr but i only ordered one thing and that was like a month ago but i still haven’t gotten my order yet
@@ev11ee use Etsy look up CindaSafe, UnaPlumaShop, Botanical Booties, WildHarvestStudios, ThreeSoulsLingerie, LaTxantxitaFeliz, Xusah, TatianasThreads, TulasiWear, MOYZorganics, HannaBroer, KatastrophicDesign, these are all shops I buy from on Etsy they’re all handmade and amazing quality fabrics I despise synthetic fibers.
@@julietzavala tysm 🤍
Make one on forever 21 or fashion nova
Fashion nova!!!!
Uh oh what’s wrong with forever 21😖😓😅
Hey Isa this might looked weird but I think I follow you fan page of Nat and Alex and I just think is so funny that I see you comment on this video lmao
andrea avina holy shit this brought me back to 2014
Saylor Minock it’s just a fast fashion company. They probably have a lot of other crap, but I really only know about how they are a fast fashion company.
Couldn't wait for this video after watching your instastory about them
I may not be first
I may not be last
But when Sarah posts
I click real fast
👏👏👏
☺❤
Me seeing this after I just bought a lot of things on Shein: 👁👄👁
(I just wanna say that I bought their clothes because I am feeling more comfortable in my body and wanted more crop tops and it's really hard to buy sustainably when you're fat. They have a amazingly clear size chart and I love it so much. Also I'm quite crafty and fix my clothes and will also make patterns out of them if they really suck so I can make my own. After this video I really hope everything will be okay)
Same I recently ordered a lot and I’m worried now I recently grew more comfortable with my sense of style, if they suck i might upcycle/ mend/ make patterns I’m trying to learn how.
YES I'M SO SCARED NOW!!!
i think that while shein is kind of problematic, it doesn't mean we should completely stop buying from them, like any effort at all to do anything even if its just learning more about unethical companies is a valid and good start!!!
Maybe I’ve just had rare great experiences, but if I order household items I’m never disappointed with the quality, and I have always received my packages within 3 weeks. The clothing is almost always cheap but the jewelry items aren’t too bad. Not defending them, just explaining my experiences
it’s still unethical and really bad for the environment
@@simiki. Mind your damn business, stop worrying about what other people buy!
ive bought from shein since late 2019, for the most part ive had good experiences with their clothes. ive never expected amazing quality, so im rarely disappointed plus i usually buy basic clothing items. also the shipping has always took less than 2 weeks for me to come, the fastest was a little under a week which pleasantly surprised me. i think it depends on where you live and/or how much you order. but after seeing these comments and watching the video, im scared about how long my clothes will last since ive never thought about how long they would last. anyway it was only recently that ive learned about how problematic they are, and also i noticed the lack of black models on their site even tho a few weeks ago when the blm movement was booming, they preached they were all about inclusivity but it doesn’t really show on their site. there was even a shirt with a black girl on it modeled by a white woman like wtf? so ive been trying to avoid it. fast fashion is addicting, which is why it’s such a booming industry. it sucks fast fashion is so unethical and ive been feeding into it for years. the only online I shop at are aliexpress and shein, but they are both unethical so i want to start using them less. i would love some more ethical solutions/places for shopping clothes!
if you want to find slow fashion brands visit directory.goodonyou.eco/?_ga=2.81526288.627717045.1593112272-119720830.1581108783
because they rate brands based on their ethics and sustainability. If you want to purchase from slow/sustainable brands I recommend the brands that are rated "good" and "great". They did rate a lot sustainable brands that are in the cheaper side. But it will never be as cheap as some fast fashion brands because it is simply impossible to make ethical and sustainable clothing that are that cheap!
The Leasphere thank you so much! :)
lawrencia b i mean technically that’s true, im not saying white people cant wear shirts with a black person on it, but the picture was of an black woman with african garments and it would’ve been fitting if a black model wore it. maybe i’d be less annoyed if they weren’t preaching and pretending to care about black people on their insta, but then again other brands have shown that they see the blm as a trend too so at least they aren’t the only ones.
There are a lot of great thrift stores and boutiques, depending on where you live. Thredup is an online thrift store you can try out.
Last year before school I ordered some jeans on there because I didn’t have much money, and they were genuinely nice quality and I still use them: however when I first got them the smell of chlorine was intense, I washed them multiple times and it slowly faded but the smell has never fully went away. I can still smell chlorine in the jeans and it’s just so weird
As you have ordered from there before they had your address. Is there anyway I can remove that?
Idk if American Eagle is fast fashion but they decently affordable jeans and they’re good quality
Oh my god me too dude. I washed those jeans at least a dozen times and they still smelled weird so I just goodwilled them 😬
oh my goodness thank you for making this. i’ve also been seeing a lot of shein partnerships on tiktok and i was actually planning on buying some of their curvy/plus size bathing suits for vacation bc it was nice to see cute ones for girls with my body type. i hadn’t visited the website and i didn’t realize they were a fast fashion company :/ a lot of the vids i’ve seen, the clothes and bathing suits look to be of decent quality but now going through more honest reviews the differences were shocking. and i hadn’t heard a single thing about the stealing of designs from small artists, that’s so awful :( this was really really helpful ty! pls start making more vids about companies like these!!
Okay I love you but.... where am I supposed to buy clothes from?? Almost all stores are fast fashion
Second hand
@@l.olivia865 not everyone has access to second ha f and it’s more expensive luv
@@l.olivia865 not everybody has money luv
@@ceoofok4036 Ah yes, always forget brand new clothes are free, my bad.
You can still shop at the stores but don’t buy stuff like every month or so
My orders always come in about a week, and honestly, the price fits the quality.
these people are idiots they buy $5 shirts and expect the products to feel like gucci
@@adrien7552 obviously omg 😂 I think the same as you.
Same
@@adrien7552 FR. They complain about the low quality of a shirt they got for $4 what more do they want
I don’t understand why people still buy from them
Edit: I apologize that my comment may have been offensive to some. I understand that buying ethically is a privilege. I think there’s better cheap options than Shein and had bad experiences with the company, that’s all.
because they want to
People don't care about child labour in China, or shit quality because it's 'cheap clothing'. Sad
Cheap. That's it, cheap.
Being ethical is a privilege .
Some ppl are young, broke, uninformed etc
lately I've been really of the conscious of the fact that I have been buying fast fashion, I would love to buy more ethical clothes but I find that fast fashion is all I can afford, obviously there are thrift stores but I would love to see a video from you or places that are GOOD to shop at !! would help us who are trying to make the switch from fast fashion
ebay is super cheap
depop!
Poshmark
@@jg9980 literally though, while they're vintage section (known as "specialty") is becoming more etsy-priced nowadays, if you just search under clothing that is preowned you'll find STEALs and TONS of selections of brands. Not an ad lol, just that this is what I have been doing for the past 5-6 years. Since I have been making more $ than before I finally can afford etsy artisans, but i do recommend Ebays offerings.
Hey Sarah - I’m plus sized and it’s really hard for me to find clothes that aren’t super expensive or just plain ugly. I have purchased from Shein a few times just because they have the items I’ve been wanting and can’t find elsewhere, in my size.
Do you have any recommendations on where I can shop? I live in a college town, so a lot of the thrift stores nearby are just full of straight sized party clothes and frat t-shirts.
if you want to find slow fashion brands visit directory.goodonyou.eco/?_ga=2.81526288.627717045.1593112272-119720830.1581108783
because they rate brands based on their ethics and sustainability. If you want to purchase from slow/sustainable brands I recommend the brands that are rated "good" and "great". They did rate a lot sustainable brands that are in the cheaper side. But it will never be as cheap as some fast fashion brands because it is simply impossible to make ethical and sustainable clothing that are that cheap!
The Leasphere thank you! this is so helpful!
Try Facebook marketplace or your local charity shops? I’m plus size too and sometimes you can find absolute gems in charity shops. I bought a beautiful party dress for £3 and I looked online and it was selling new for like £60. I don’t know if thrift shops are the same as charity shops in the US but in the U.K. you can get so much good stuff.
Monica Rae ebay ebay ebay!! they have so many plus sized cheap adorable clothes on there :)
i would recommend using depop, but applying a price filter to avoid the people who jack up the prices of thrifted clothes. you can find some gems on depop if you look hard enough.
Fast fashion isn’t great but , some people can literally only afford that and might not feel comfortable thrifting right now .
So, I'm just going to be honest here: you're right that Shein, being a fast fashion brand, is not the best brand to buy clothes from. However, that being said, I can't really afford cute clothes from non-fast fashion brands. I'm currently unemployed and when I was employed, I was only making 12.50/hour, which was hardly enough for my rent, much less all of my other bills such as electricity and car payment. As much as I want to buy from sustainable brands, I can't afford $50 for a skirt, I don't have the time/money to learn how to sew, and haute couture, which is at least more sustainable than fast fashion, is WAY out of my budget. Even buying from department stores like JCPenney's and Macy's is out of my budget because, while they still tend to sell fast fashion brands, I'm fat, and clothing for fat people is extremely expensive compared to "standard" sizes. I would thrift, but again, I'm fat, and finding cute clothes that I actually want to wear that don't make me feel ugly is really hard given the area that I'm in (I live in a suburb wherein most of the people living here are older or children and therefore the clothes are either not something I would wear or... children's clothes). I do thrift items that I really like, but those items are very few and far between, and tend to be shoes since clothing is, as mentioned earlier, difficult for me to find while thrifting. I'm not attempting to defend Shein, but I feel it's important to point this out -- not everyone has the means to afford non-fast fashion. Sofia essentially said what I am saying here, but I wanted to give my reasoning for buying from Shein.
Just as a side note, I do want to say that Shein actually has decent quality clothes in comparison to some other fast fashion brands that I've shopped from and have a pretty wide array of sizes on their website, some of which could even fit an American size 5x (I'm personally a 2x-3x). Finding decent quality clothing in bigger sizes that isn't mega expensive is honestly very difficult, as I mentioned earlier. Again, not trying to defend Shein here, but I personally feel that compared to Forever 21 and other popular fast fashion brands, Shein has the widest variety of styles, the widest array of styles, and the most relatively quality products.
If you can’t afford/find cute clothes that don’t destroy the planet and enable mistreatment of the workers than I guess you’re gonna have to just deal with it??? Like yea being cute is nice and all but it is far from being a necessity. You act like you don’t have a choice but too buy from them but you do. Also feeling cute is way less important than the damage these companies do too the environment and the workers. If you can’t friggin afford too buy lots of shit than don’t buy lots of shit
@@gracieli2543 Yeah, you're right, looking cute isn't as important -- but looking cute also makes me happy and honestly I don't even buy clothes that often. Me buying a small amount of cute clothes from fast fashion brands once every 2 years isn't harming the planet nearly as much as other people.
@@gracieli2543 how about you find a clothing website that's ethical for plus sized women that has cute clothes because feeling good and looking good is a necessity for your mental health, then you can say something. Or, find a lifestyle that's ethical in every way and then look down on others. You know people want to look nice and it is a necessity. We can't all be perfect in every possible way
@@gracieli2543 I can tell you’ve never been poor in your life lmao
@@gracieli2543 You’re so ignorant omg
About the mask thing:
I'm from Germany and I work at a pick up station for DHL and they had to give us masks (because we technically work for them) and the package had a Shein sticker on it. So it might be true (or they just bought the masks from Shein, because I know they gave out masks and desinfectants for free if you ordered over a certain amount. And in the beginning of Corona masks where sold out nearly anywhere)
So I completely understand where half of this is coming from but the other half, I have had a different experience than stated in the video. I don't know, I've ordered two big hauls of shein clothing and accessory items about like 6 months apart, and both I can say definitely came within 7 business days. I live in Florida, which I'm sure has nothing to do with it since it's a Chinese company, but I just thought I'd say from personal experience shipping has always been great. Also, sizing has always been almost exact as well, every time I order I check the sizing charts and make sure I'm buying the right size. I do agree, that it is fast fashion, which is bad for the planet and I will agree that some of their clothes are not the bust quality and smell. I just usually wash it once and it goes away.
However, I feel like when you are talking about seeing one thing on the website, and seeing something completely or very different irl, it sounds way more like wish. Every single thing I've bought from shein looked exactly how it looked on the website. Maybe not the same material I was expecting (which is not often), but idk. Once again this is just personal experience, and I am now learning about how bad fast fashion is so I'm planning to thrift more, but just thought I'd say this :).
I understand this is not everyone's experience with Shein I'm just stating mine.
ive had a similar experience too! shipping is usually pretty fast for me, i think it depends on where you live and/or how much you order. the things ive gotten are pretty good and ive never expected amazing quality so im not mad. i guess it all depends. i am a bit scared now about my clothes wearing out because ive never thought about how long they would last 😬😬
@@byesialater yes exactly! And unfortunately, she is completely right. These types of clothes do not last long at all due to the fabric or how cheaply they are made. I really hope to get into the mentality that I don't need something to create a "cool fit," but to rather sustain and be and item in my closet for a long time.
Agree with everything. But I've never had any bad smelling clothing. I think Shein use to be like these things she stated in the video are dated. Cause they have definitely stepped their game up.
@@s.c2376 yeah I think so too, I think maybe she's talking about shein years ago? But I'm not 100% sure and I can't assume so idk.
ok but why closing eyes on child labor???
I seriously appreciate you being so honest about this even having done something with them in the past
This is the only place i can find cheap clothes that are cute so I’m sorry I can’t afford name brand stuff
PROB NOT AS IT IS FROM CHINA AND PS THE WW3 WILL ALSO BE STARTED BY CHINA SO GOOD LUCK ON SUPPORTING THEM :"))
@@crimsonmatter how are you so sure
"The Who" is a band.
"WHO" is the world health org....
I just watched a tiktok of someone spending $800 on Shein clothes with the caption "time to destress" or something like that, and the comments were *filled* with people saying "stop saying 'don't buy fast fashion' because it's her money and she can spend it how she wants". The other aruguemnt I saw over and over was that "Shein isn't the only company that exploits sweatshops, so don't tell her how to spend her money while you buy from Apple and H&M, etc". And I mean, I get their point I guess, but right now, it's not about completely eliminating sweat shops, but minimizing them as best we can, until we get to a point where we can (hopefully) eliminate them.. at least, that's how I see it.
Also maybe we need to find better ways to destress than buying things. I know it can be fun and tempting but damn 800 bucks on clothes is crazy to me, especially for such low quality.
You know a lot of those people that work in sweatshops, their alternative is prostitution? So if we took away all the sweatshops you want little kids to go back to prostituting their body for some money?
@@cynthialouis6622 That's not the consumers' fault. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't. People shouldn't be forced to support an unethical practice, because collapse of that could lead to another. There's no winning in that. The system needs to completely change.
Could you maybe do a video on clothing brands that you recommend because it’s not easy being a teen with little money that wants to keep up with trends. If anyone has any suggestions that are affordable please lmk☺️
Thrifting is such a good alternative and platforms like mercari and Depop are good places to buy second hand. Aside from buying preowned clothes, there are plenty of articles about good sustainable brands. You can use the app ‘GoodOnYou’ to check the authenticity of ethical brands. To buy from small businesses, Etsy is amazing and the app is so easy to use. Lots of love from another broke teen
Tip number 1 : stop caring about trends and don't throw out your little money for shitty stuff.
Trends are honestly just a way that big companies trick you into thinking that the clothing you have is never good enough, so that you will keep giving them money. Like Tan France says, there's a difference between fashion and style. Figure out what works for you - your style - and then stick with it (allowing it to evolve over time, though). I've never been trendy (except in 2012 when the trends coincided with my style for that one year), but i get compliments nearly every time I go out because I know what works for me and I stand out.
g g is H&M good?
Poshmark is great. If you like a few items from 1 person’s “closet” you can bundle them together and make an offer to them. Then you can get several items for a low price. They are either gently used in excellent condition or brand new.
I bought a few items from shein about 3 years ago...
I ended up receiving an itchy t-shirt and throwing away everything else. Not worth the time or money. How can anyone mess up a t-shirt? 🙄
This video really made me think. I'm a fat woman in a country where it's not accepted to be like me. That translates to not being able to buy clothes at normal stores, actually sometimes i can't even find clothes that fit me correctly even though i'm a size 1 XL and if i do find them they're ethically made but extremelly expensive... i was tempted to buy at shein because of the price of the clothes (living in a constant economical crisis it makes a lot of sense) and also because they have cute clothes that are made for all types of women to wear. I don't want to defend fast fashion at all (i'm really against it)but my reality made me think that this video lacks of seeing other realities than the middle class american view of how things work. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but blaming the people who buy from the company (while assuming they're all people with the possibility to buy ethically that just choose not to) instead of the company itself is not it. I'm sorry i live in a third world country where ethically made clothes are worth four, five, six times more than the non ethical version of a chinese company but i just can't afford it.
I'm not against thrifting, i love the idea and it's cheaper but still i can't find my size.
That's true - we big girls also want to wear something fashionable! (I'm also a 1XL) In my country you can buy "potatoe sacks" or you have to spend a fortune on something halfway good looking. I don't want to support companies like Shein, but I also want have something to wear. 😬
Namjoon's boopable nose
I think a lot of people forget about heavier people. When I found out about Shein I got very excited because they had a plus size section and it was basically the same as the Straight size section. Skinny girls can find cute clothes no matter where you look. Plus size stores have ugly “fat people” clothes. I have an aesthetic that I want to stick to, and it just so happens shein sells clothes in my size and price range. I cant afford to spend 60 dollars on 1 skirt.
@@bluecat2741 that's very true also in my country. Keep in mind I live in the capital of the country and I still can't find clothes that don't have those grandma-like flowers and colors so I can't even imagine what my plus sisters are going through in other provinces. We have NO visibility whatsoever and I think that's something people from the US need to learn
@@josephjoestaristhebestjoes4996 you're right, I can't tell you the amount of times I've felt marginalized just because of my weight. Seeing these type of pages sell cute clothes for someone my size, and bigger makes me really happy. Especially when I'm very used to that "one size fits all" lie. No it doesn't. I'm tired of seeing only ugly, grandma-lile clothing in my size
All I have to say is FACTS
As bad as fast fashion is, I find Shein to be one of the most egregious. They don't seem to care at all if their clothes are even wearable once. At least with some other brands, I can reinforce the stitching and get a little more wear out of it.
the thing is their shipping times and quality has vastly improved over the years and that quality improvement has lead people to believe that so has their ethicalness
Sooo im based in the uk..
And basically i needed A WHOLE new wardrobe i havent baught clothes for years as i go up& down in weight n was desperate for literally everything..
I saw ALOT of uk influencers and celebrities advertising shein and on my facebook it was everywhere.. so i looked on the website saw how cheap the clothes where n thought omg i can get so much ! So i just ordered £300 clothes without reading the reviews or checking where the clothes are coming from.. basically my postal company was waiting to recieve my package for 3 whole weeks i tried everything to get intouch with shein and had no luck and if i did speak to someone they were each telling me different things as too where my delivery was.. and i randomly got an email after 4 weeks in poorly written english that my parcel “ may have lost” and they offered me afull refund straight away which was great. But however i DID not know the company was chinese and on their website they state they have “ european warehouses” so i assumed it was coming from there.. and they dont tell you how long estimated shipping is before you place your order! Had i known all of this i would have gone elsewhere and saved myelf the trouble
do all the instagram boutiques!! oh polly, pretty little thing, fashion nova, missguided!
Romwe is the same brand and some things even come in Shein packaging. Don’t buy from there either!
Y’all sitting here on your iPads iPhones and Mac books acting like you care about child labor? Then throw that phone away or quit putting other women down for not having the money to spend $50 on a t shirt.
You're so right girl. Some people's privilege really shows in this comment section. While most are pretending to care about child laborers and want to shut down sweatshops, what most don't know is the alternative is prostitution. So unless they're ready to fund these people's life or give them a better job, they really need to stop 🤦♀️
Happy 10 year anniversary, Sarah! I go back and watch your old videos from time to time, it's interesting to see how different your life was back then and you had some great content :)
aw thank you so much! ❤️
I love Shein. I can’t complain. I just got a $200 order and everything is fine. I always read the reviews and I go down or up. I live in NY and we have 4 seasons, so I don’t really care because every season I like to wear new clothes. If you don’t order on Shein, I don’t know why you do this kind of reviews. There are many “good”/expensive companies in the US and guess what they have factories in China, so to me it is the same, but they charge a lot more money for their products/items.
@red cherry You mean ones that cost $800 for a decent top?
look, they are sketchy, they sold a necklace with a nazi symbol, they sold a muslim prayer mat for a rug, they test on animals, and steal designs
i wish i knew this earlier :( i literally placed an order last night so if i had known i would've changed my mind! thank you for educating me though i now know not to order from here again!!! i love your channel and how open you are about issues in the world and i really appreciate that!
where do you expect me to shop then?....and plz don’t come and say “thrifting is always the answer” one. thrift stores (in my area) prices are getting ridiculous! I’m not about to pay $15 for a outdated hoodie. bye
Prices on vinted are still good i just got vintage designer mom jeans for 20€
Ebay/Facebook too
Sui Des thanks for the recommendation
It’s so annoying because I can’t afford things more expensive that what is generally considered ‘fast fashion’. I don’t use shein or wish because they seem too good to be true (in terms of price v quality). I generally use charity shops but now I can’t because of the whole COVID pandemic thing.
Also I'm not sure a Shein mask is a good thing given the quality of their clothes 😅
A fabric mask is a fabric mask
@@peepycat I wouldn't say that. A mask that smells like chemicsls isn't good for u obviously and also there are big differences in how protective different fabrics are
Sini S when you pay 2 dollars for a mask you know what to expect, still better than nothing right? 🤨
PROB NOT AS IT IS FROM CHINA AND PS THE WW3 WILL ALSO BE STARTED BY CHINA SO GOOD LUCK ON SUPPORTING THEM :"))
@@peepycat no. A random piece of fabric is not effective. At all. Get a real mask
with the shipping part you cant really speak on it yourself when you havent ordered or received anything in over 6 years. you’re going by your opinion or a few people saying bad things
They have a returns policy, so if u don't like the item you received you can return it between 30 days of delivery.
Have you had to do a return with them? Was it an easy process??
I literally have ordered tons of stuff from them! TONS! None of my stuff have been ill fitted, and the quality has been excellent, maybe they have stepped their game up, but I will continue ordering from them
same!
Me too
SAME
same
a while ago i ordered about six skirts from shein, the first one broke in a week and was unfixable no matter how hard i tried. 2 were too small. another was sent in the incorrect colour. and the other two arrived in a seperate package three weeks later and when they did arrive they had such a stench that they just had to go straight to the wash (which didn’t rlly help loads). i ended up keeping and wearing one of these skirts, the rest are either in the trash or the back of my closet never having been touched since i bought them. to be fair a few items i’ve bought from shein like shirts and certain joggers fit great and have lasted me a good while.
Ooh yes I hope Zaful is next!
Z-awful.
They’re from the same ppl as well as romwe and AliExpress I think
@@myristicina. no doubt
Not trying to defend them, but as for the shipping, personally I've never had an issue. I've always received my orders in under 10 days (I admittedly buy from them very rarely, vintage inspired clothes simply because I can't find what I'm looking for elsewhere). Something I find super odd is how they seem to have A LOT of same exact items on sites like Romwe, Zaful, etc. and some random brands on Amazon. Are they connected in some way to bring in lots of money? I don't understand!!! It's so weird. A large percentage of the items are literally the same and even use the same photos.
Yes it comes from the same company www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/sapna/say-no-to-the-dress
DRESS LILY/ ROSEGAL is HOORIBLE
A little tea here, I know someone who used to work for shein/romwe and they used to really care about online reviews, so if you posted a negative review, someone would reach out to you to fix your issue and try to get you to change your review. Now, they exchange gifts for positive reviews at their pop ups to bring up their review ratings.
oml i'm so angry right now, i literally JUST ordered some clothes off of shein and then come to find THIS VIDEO. I truly had no idea how insensitive shein is:( i'm so sorry
Years ago I bought 3 items from shein. 2 of them got very damaged as soon as I washed them. The 3rd was a plain black hoodie and I wore the shit out of that cheap thing. I wore it for 5 years and I only got rid of it when it got a huge hole in it. Honestly, as a broke non-American, if I buy a clothing item I will wear it until it gets too damaged to wear or I can no longer wear that size. Even if an item gets damaged, I tend to wear it to sleep as for it to not go to waste. It doesn't make me feel less guilty about buying fast fashion, but hey, it's something.
I have ordered from SHEIN once and it was a good experience with customer service and item quality. I have ordered again because I think it is good in my personal opinion. You get what you payed for.
it’s still very UNETHICAL (child labor) and REALLY BAD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT
sys 777 I did not know that
@@simiki. do you know how much stuff is unethical? It's so hard to be ethnical if you can't afford it, and it's hard even when you can. Don't be so quick to say that
instead of replying to everyone telling them to dm them, why dont they just dm them...
its all for show. if ppl look at their page and see them replying to people publicly, they'll really believe they have customer service. what happens in DMs usually stays there, so it dont matter if they never get back to them as long as their public profile looks good
thank you for making this and thank you for being one of the only content creators to hold yourself accountable, there is a good reason i've been subscribed since 2012/2013. i was in highschool when shein/romwe/wish etc all started and i was dumb and broke and lived in a very small town with no clothing stores, so i ordered from them. never have i had such poor quality clothing that smelled like spray paint and harsh chemicals. i was also dumb and a minor and ordered flat tummy teas, but its creators like you that are gonna make sure a lot more people don't make these mistakes. while yes having options for more expensive sustainable clothes and to even have access to thrift/consignment stores is a privilege, it's also super important to make it very aware that these companies leech off of lower income people and also leech off their workers and brand ambassadors. i follow you on twitter and have been seeing the comments from people who aren't getting the overall message just because they had good experiences. to continue to support and give money to these companies that only want profit and don't care about their workers, quality of clothing, and safety standards is absurd. these comments will keep happening and you already know this but you are on the right side of this topic, so thank you. thank you for continuing to make fast fashion/thrift/horror/true crime/tik tok/psychology videos even though you get unfair and mean comments, your content is my favourite and i'm happy you're still staying true to who you are.
since most companies selling cheap clothes are 99% fast fashion and exploiting their workers does anyone know a cheaper alternative but more sustainable
the upcoming generation has to do smth about it
If you're looking for an alternative site for cheap clothing kinda similar to Shein, I love YesStyle. They have a TON of stuff which is all relatively good quality, they have a lot of reviews that are realistic so you can know what you're getting into before buying. They also have a lot of great korean skin care and makeup. From my experiences, I've not yet been disappointed with an order from YesStyle, some clothes may fit differently than I had originally expected, but nothing too drastic. Also, the clothing I've ordered holds up pretty well and lasts a while. Their shipping times are honestly pretty quick considering they ship out of Hong Kong, maybe 2/ 2 and a half weeks at the quickest (which is still a longer time, but I personally don't mind waiting that much so idk) Plus, their customer support is amazing. They get back to you quickly and are respectful and informative in their responses to you. I returned an item once and it was an annoying process as is anything you return online, but it was relatively painless. Also there's plenty of codes to save 10% on orders as well as a bunch of other codes every user gets to save an additional 2-5% off. You can use my code CU8RMA for the 2-5% and some 10% off codes I know off the top of my head are ROBERT10, JAMES10 and INF10HYRAM :)
Not all shein clothes are bad, just need to read through all comments and decide. I had 5 pieces from shein, fir a year, still okay
the quality may not be bad but it’s still unethical and really really really bad for the environment
So its okay that they completely disrespect cultures by selling prayer mats as rugs?? And sell swastika necklaces??? You're okay buying from that kind of company? Not to mention how they treat or "pay" their workers.
I'm 17 and have been thrifting almost exclusively for years. I recently bought some clothing from Shien and not going to lie, I feel really guilty lol. I'm a huge advocate for thrifting and buying local, not only is it more ethical, but it is cheaper, and helps cultivate a sense of personal style, rather than following what is trendy.
don’t feel guilty because u didn’t know but don’t buy from them again
sameee I feel so upset with myself
I ordered 4 things from Shein.com and I placed the order on June 18 and received my items yesterday, June 27. That was just 9 days. So that's LESS than 7 business days. Their items are not great quality, and yes, they are a fast fashion brand and I'm not defending Shein per se, but stop attacking the people who shop there. Not everyone is in a position to buy better quality clothing for more money. Please don't sit on your privilege soap box and judge people trying to find cute clothes at the best deals.
Yes, Shein should be doing a lot more for their employees and customers, but they're one of the most affordable places to get clothing right now.
Plus you don't have to go to them, they ship things do you. If you don't have a car or access to good public transportation, that's a big plus. If you wonder why people just accept Shein's shitty quality, it's because there's not much out here on the market offering the same thing. So stop judging the people who shop there.
Also, the ability to worry about the environment is a privilege. Please keep that in mind!
I think if you put a little effort in it, you could find better quality clothes that are cheaper too. I'm not swimming in money, but I try to buy better things, so I don't need many things. Also I take care of my stuff. I usually shopped at H&M and Zalando (I'm from Europe) because they're the only ones where I can get nice things that actually suit me. I haven't bought anything in over a year and most of my stuff is over 5 years old. I'm not saying I wasn't wasteful at a time, but I'm trying to change, and it really is possible. Unless you buy shitty things and have to throw them away after a few months and just continue to throw out all of your hard earned money, that you seem to depend on so much.
koRnikon I’m not saying that it’s not possible to be poor and find good quality clothing. I’m saying that it’s harder to do. I personally typically go to thrift stores all the time, but they’re currently closed due to coronavirus. And I will keep items for years, but that is my personal choice. I have the time and the means of transportation. That’s a privilege. It’s also possible to change those habits to better less wasteful habits overtime. Find me an alternative that’s better for the workers, customers, and environment combined and see if people wouldn’t jump to support that company. I truly believe they would. But they’re not any of them currently. H&M is also problematic and wasteful. This is also a political problem and it goes back to the U.S’s failure to properly compensate its workers and a general decline in public programs. I don’t how things are in your part of Europe, but here, many people work multiple jobs to stay alive. They come home exhausted and they try to make their dollar stretch as far as possible. To speak on the issue of fast fashion and look down on its customer base but not acknowledge the privilege you have to do so, is wrong. Poor people aren’t out here trying to fix the world, they’re just trying to survive.
I live in an Asian country where most stores only sell up to size L (which usually fits more like a western size M). Even if you find the very rare store online that sells 1XL or 2XL, it is usually an equivalent of a western size XL. Chubby or fat people don’t get a lot of options in countries where only skinny people are treated like humans, so I’m really grateful for Shein.
Same for brands like Forever 21! They’re sale section in store is always SO crowded and cramped with clothing. And the sad part is that most of their stuff gets thrown out. Once I became more educated on fast fashion and what actually happens bts I’ve stopped buying from brands like Shein, Romwe, Forever 21, etc.
Is H&M fast fashion?
LMAO Talk about IRONIC the ad before your video started was for Shein.🤣
I've always had a great experience & you just have to look at the reviews with pictures. Quality is good. If you don't like it, then mind your business & stop worrying about what other people spend THEIR OWN MONEY.
Yes!! This right here!!! ☝☝☝☝
@Lilia Peacey but some of us are broke and can’t afford other shops
@Janiya Gowdy I buy clothes once a year on christmas and maybe my birthday. I also never spend more than 100 so please dont assume :)
Ive bought from Romwe ( i think they are affiliated to Shein) and never had an issue with the clothes. The only thing i wouldnt recommend is buying leggings or jeans from them because the quality of those (from what I've bought anyways is not great :( ) but other items like tops, dresses, pjs , jewellery have all come in good condition. No chemical, factory smell , no color bleeding, stitch issues. So maybe ive just been lucky
I bought a shirt from them and they literally misspelled "lightning" as "lighthing"