The Battle of Adrianople 378 AD

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  • @BazBattles
    @BazBattles  Před 5 lety +327

    Battle of Adrianople was picked by our Patrons on Patreon. Hope you like it.
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    • @jjtay97able
      @jjtay97able Před 5 lety +1

      Thank you yet again for this battle

    • @vaultmafia6725
      @vaultmafia6725 Před 5 lety +1

      Awesome as always.

    • @denniscleary7580
      @denniscleary7580 Před 5 lety +1

      BazBattles Excellent battle baz 👍

    • @Napoleonic_S
      @Napoleonic_S Před 5 lety +5

      BazBattles btw, IMHO you found an untapped goldmine with your narrator, he's one of the best video narrator in CZcams for me, you should've expanded this collaboration. Expand the scope of this channel or cover other topics and create a new channel or something.
      A great narrator voice with good scripts are major attraction for a CZcams channel IMO.

    • @user-iu4dq6wm1t
      @user-iu4dq6wm1t Před 5 lety +2

      Another quality video, out of curiosity may I ask on what programme do you produce your videos?

  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals Před 5 lety +1608

    It has always fascinated me that we know so much about this battle, while the details for dozens of others that happened in this period are lost.

    • @waitwhat69247
      @waitwhat69247 Před 5 lety +49

      more scibes than soldiers in this 1 i guess

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Před 5 lety +192

      conan263 watch Shaun’s video about the fall of the Roman Empire. Mass immigration wasn’t what killed Rome. In fact immigration helped Rome in many cases. Had the visigoths and Alan’s not migrated into Gaul than the western Roman Empire would not have been able to stop Atilla. And mass immigration is what created the states of modern England (saxons and angles) France (franks) Italy (Lombards) and the United States (various) if you live in any of these states you probably only exist thanks to mass immigration.

    • @DavideMontingelliOfficial
      @DavideMontingelliOfficial Před 5 lety +17

      We have to thanks Ammianus Marcellinus for this account

    • @leonardodedonatis4450
      @leonardodedonatis4450 Před 5 lety +83

      Remember that if people flee their countries it's not because they woke up a morning with this idea, it's because they have serious problems like wars,famines... all caused by the therrible policy of western nations; then when you let migrants pass your borders but then you let them starve it's to be expected that they are going to revolt

    • @issy4564
      @issy4564 Před 5 lety +4

      I don't think this is even possible in modern western countries... And dude not cool!

  • @Some_Call_Me_Pietro
    @Some_Call_Me_Pietro Před 5 lety +275

    "And that miracle..."
    Me: OMG REALLY?!? :D
    "Never came"
    Me: ohokay :(

  • @ensvenskperson7661
    @ensvenskperson7661 Před 5 lety +160

    Fight the Goths, they said.
    It would be fun, they said.

    • @recklessroges
      @recklessroges Před 5 lety +4

      Never fight the Goths, (something something "land war in Asia" or .. black clothing and poetry,) join with the Goths to fight the Hun!

    • @IronWarrior86
      @IronWarrior86 Před 5 lety +3

      They came from what is now Sweden.

    • @silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096
      @silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096 Před 5 lety +1

      THis is what happens when your empire becomes weak. You let the horde come in.

  • @psammiad
    @psammiad Před 5 lety +241

    The Gothic revolt sounds terrifying. Imagine being face to face with all that black lipstick!

  • @Dd5yr5g
    @Dd5yr5g Před 5 lety +570

    Valens : ok guys well just starve them out nice and slow...
    Right wing : LEEEEEEEEEEROOOOOOYYYYYYY

  • @HistoryTime
    @HistoryTime Před 5 lety +209

    Such an epic and pivotal moment in history. After this it was game over for the Western Romans imho.

    • @filipbatora7523
      @filipbatora7523 Před 5 lety +30

      Except Western Roman Empire did not even participate in the battle.

    • @HistoryTime
      @HistoryTime Před 5 lety +23

      Filip Batora The repercussions though.

    • @PotatoSoup58
      @PotatoSoup58 Před 5 lety +2

      The western empire would have fallen regardless

    • @rayanhey2411
      @rayanhey2411 Před 5 lety +1

      History Time after you finish with the middle ages you should talk again about the obscure parts of Antiquity

    • @ranchero1707
      @ranchero1707 Před 5 lety +2

      I'd say this was a ripple, Frigidus river was most likely what really put the final nail in the coffin.

  • @raylast3873
    @raylast3873 Před 5 lety +48

    It's funny, in History Class this battle was taught to us as the moment that Heavy Cavalry proved itself as the new dominant force on all future battle fields, supposedly proving that Rome's Heavy Infantry approach had become obsolete.
    But now learning about the events of the battle, I don't really see it. This outcome was clearly the result of the Romans being surprise by the arrival of the enemy cavalry, having their own engaged cavalry on the flank crushed and being surrounded as a result.
    This is pretty standard stuff and could happen to any army against any enemy fielding decent medium or heavy cavalry. Certainly Carthage, Persia or even Gaullic Tribes could have pulled off something similar in earlier centuries. In fact it looks a lot like Cannae, at least in terms of the final outcome.
    If anything, it looks to me as if Roman infantry actually performed exceptionally well during this battle and proved their continued superiority when you consider how long they managed to keep fighting in good order after being surrounded. A lot of Armies would have probably collapsed immediately in that kind of situation.

    • @panayiotisheers9620
      @panayiotisheers9620 Před rokem +2

      I agree totally the infantry would always be the backbone of Roman armies even into the early Middle Ages with basil the seconds campaigning in mountainous Bulgaria.

    • @AYVYN
      @AYVYN Před rokem +1

      Only Historians would fill the Turkish mountains with cavalry haha. Even Panzers regularly fell out of formation due to speed variability. If Europe wasn’t in a warming period, the Hun’s horses wouldn’t have gotten past Ukraine. Horses without food are about as useful as Tanks without fuel.

  • @Liam_TheNoob
    @Liam_TheNoob Před 5 lety +391

    If only Rome hadn't botched their diplomacy with the goths, they might have them stood a chance against the Huns with their help.

    • @stevenmackintosh8160
      @stevenmackintosh8160 Před 5 lety +82

      The Romans + Goths beat the Huns at Battle of the Catalaunian Plains.

    • @SimonNZ6969
      @SimonNZ6969 Před 5 lety +13

      Finally someone that gets it.

    • @nicholaswolf8107
      @nicholaswolf8107 Před 5 lety +24

      Steven Mackintosh, it was the Visigoths and the Romans who defeated the Huns at Chalons in 451. The Roman general didn’t want to have to ask the barbarian kings for help. These Visigoths Defeated the Romans in 378 and after Theodosius I they sacked Rome in 410 and were given land in Aquitaine

    • @LEFT4BASS
      @LEFT4BASS Před 5 lety +12

      To be fair, it sounds like they just didn’t have the resources to deal with so many refugees.

    • @Novusod
      @Novusod Před 5 lety +26

      This era of history is called the "migratory period" of European history. These migrations were largely driven by a famine and colder weather pushing refugees South looking for food. Problem was there wasn't enough food to feed everyone anywhere on the continent. The Goths were given a choice. Either sit around and slowly stave or fight to the death. They choose to fight. After this battle the famines actually got worse and the Visigoths ended up migrating all the way to Spain and North Africa of course after sacking Rome along the way.

  • @ccswelding1599
    @ccswelding1599 Před 5 lety +61

    "The emperor's body was never found"...so he could be still alive....out there....waiting....FOR REVENGE!!

    • @newstartyt3700
      @newstartyt3700 Před 3 lety +1

      nah he burned.

    • @fitnesspoint2006
      @fitnesspoint2006 Před 3 lety +2

      nah he was a bitch and is likely still running

    • @signoguns8501
      @signoguns8501 Před 2 lety

      @@fitnesspoint2006 he likely committed seppuku. Most generals did after a humiliating loss like this one, rather than live with the shame.

    • @apassionatenerd.3564
      @apassionatenerd.3564 Před 2 lety +2

      @@signoguns8501 i don't think the romans called it seppuku but I see your point

    • @signoguns8501
      @signoguns8501 Před 2 lety

      @@apassionatenerd.3564 They probably definitely called it seppuku, tbf

  • @321AlterSchwede
    @321AlterSchwede Před 5 lety +138

    Adrianopel was not the end of the roman empire, but the beginning of the end. The failure in integrating or destroying the Goths, leaded to the Goth invasion of italy, which leaded to the opening borders in gaul, which leaded to invasions of several germanic tribes in gaul, which leaded to the foundation of the germanice kingdoms in the western empire, which leaded to less taxes, which leaded to no reliable army, which leaded to the end.

    • @breiter4697
      @breiter4697 Před 5 lety +8

      And the reason I think these tribes were there in the first place is because I think the more powerful huns chased them into roman territory or just wanted some land... I think

    • @TEverettReynolds
      @TEverettReynolds Před 5 lety +15

      IMHO, Adrianople was the turning point of no return. The Empire was already in a downward slide for a century or two leading up to this point (Hyper inflation, loss of trade, civil wars, over taxation of the peasant farmers, loss of discipline of the army), but Adrianople was the point when the Army proved to be finally incapable of dealing with the border threats. And, as you summarized, this lead to the final slide into total collapse.

    • @EndOfSmallSanctuary97
      @EndOfSmallSanctuary97 Před 4 lety +5

      @@TEverettReynolds The Eastern Empire continued for a thousand years after Adrianople.

    • @CritKhan
      @CritKhan Před 4 lety +3

      It's lead, not leaded, you illiterate barbarian.

    • @bezahltersystemtroll5055
      @bezahltersystemtroll5055 Před 4 lety +3

      @@CritKhan its leadeded, actually.

  • @magnumopus8695
    @magnumopus8695 Před 5 lety +12

    1:26 YO that sound track in the background is fire! took me straight back to 2005 when i started playn rome total war :D 10/10

  • @s.31.l50
    @s.31.l50 Před 5 lety +132

    My boy Julius Caesar would have never done this

    • @EndOfSmallSanctuary97
      @EndOfSmallSanctuary97 Před 4 lety +9

      Actually he probably would have. Caesar was a highly aggressive general and was never one to take the defensive. Remember that at Alesia he came to the very brink of total destruction because of his inability to defeat Vercingetorix before his allies arrived.

    • @antifapers
      @antifapers Před 4 lety +30

      would have probably cut off supply lines and reinforcements before trying to engage them. i noticed it was the first thing he did in every battle.

    • @bigredhawkeye5167
      @bigredhawkeye5167 Před 4 lety +1

      At the battle of Thapsus Caesar's troops attacked without orders and started the battle

    • @simsonyee
      @simsonyee Před 4 lety +27

      He would have built a wall around the Goths

    • @simsonyee
      @simsonyee Před 4 lety +1

      @@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 First he built a wall....

  • @Lehr-km5be
    @Lehr-km5be Před 5 lety +10

    That Rome Total War soundtrack at the beginning did remind of good old times and makes for a really great introduction aswell!

    • @terawatt1
      @terawatt1 Před 4 lety

      why old times? To me it's still one of the best games ever made

    • @Lehr-km5be
      @Lehr-km5be Před 4 lety +3

      @@terawatt1 It most surely is, I still consider it the best Total War game I have ever played. I said old times, because I used to play it when I was a youngster - and I have great memories with this game from that time

    • @signoguns8501
      @signoguns8501 Před 2 lety

      I wish i could play the total war series :( Im tempted to buy a pc just for those games lol

    • @Lehr-km5be
      @Lehr-km5be Před 2 lety +1

      @@signoguns8501 In my opinion that could very well be worth it - Total War games are great and diverse coupled with mods for them - and the fact that there is so many of them anyone will find some which are to their liking

  • @d.m.collins1501
    @d.m.collins1501 Před 5 lety +8

    I must say, I really enjoy that you add additional facts at the end of your videos. They really provide a great context and postscript for the battles.

  • @joeyrauwerda4704
    @joeyrauwerda4704 Před 5 lety +11

    Whenever BazBattles posts, I have to like the video before watching it, the stuff’s just too good

  • @isipallan9596
    @isipallan9596 Před 5 lety +10

    JUST HOW IS THIS AMAZING ANIMATION MADE?
    Makes me want to create fictional wars.

  • @oscar4674
    @oscar4674 Před 5 lety +7

    Man your voice makes even adds feel good

  • @wardrm5598
    @wardrm5598 Před 5 lety

    I am fascinated by this battle. Thank you!

  • @watt338
    @watt338 Před 5 lety +298

    This is so sad. Alexa, play despacito.

  • @KingExituS
    @KingExituS Před 5 lety +10

    So it's the story behind the famous battle of Adrianople, it's has been a while that i wanted to read about it, but i was either too lazy or too busy; thanks for the informative video :), really enjoyed it!

  • @hehe6969
    @hehe6969 Před 5 lety +7

    Instant like before video even starts. Love your content!

  • @vinodvarghese78
    @vinodvarghese78 Před 5 lety +11

    Valens was an unfortunate emperor. He was looking for greatness in the East and the Goths crashed the party, well not crashed by demolished. It surely is a mystery not able to find his dead body, especially a Roman emperor. Won't he be wearing some sort battle gear that would stand out from the rest? I mean even if its assumed that his body was accidentally burned. Great video by the way. Love your channel!

    • @vinodvarghese78
      @vinodvarghese78 Před 5 lety

      slapnut1207 That makes sense. Good point.

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 Před 5 lety +6

      Looks like he made the wrong choice in not waiting for his nephews army to show up. This should be an episode of the Terrible Blunders in military history.

    • @silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096
      @silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096 Před 5 lety

      @@Wallyworld30 I don't think VAlens was ever going to win.

  • @yavyav2281
    @yavyav2281 Před 5 lety +1

    It's always a huge pleasure when there is a new baz battle !

  • @MrSujny
    @MrSujny Před 5 lety +3

    i cannot tell how much i love this Channel.... At last something usefull is on YT, really thanks and good work :-*

  • @newslayer
    @newslayer Před 5 lety +405

    I would build a great great wall in the northern border and i’ll have the Goths pay for that wall!

    • @Leivve
      @Leivve Před 5 lety +21

      They kind of did do that...

    • @Azr4el
      @Azr4el Před 5 lety +35

      Nah, I'm just gonna let them in without any kind of check and let them destroy my country.

    • @Leivve
      @Leivve Před 5 lety +12

      It was let them come in peacefully, or have them come in violently. When people are pushed to desperation, the fact your border starts at a river doesn't mean anything to them.

    • @aresse3725
      @aresse3725 Před 5 lety +12

      Varangian Guard
      you invaded the americas. what about that?

    • @billbillson3129
      @billbillson3129 Před 5 lety

      Too soon...😁

  • @FelixTheory
    @FelixTheory Před 5 lety

    As great as always, and 3 videos in a shorter time! Always look forward to seeing your videos

  • @mihai_nedelcu1261
    @mihai_nedelcu1261 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks mate can't wait for next video

  • @DavideMontingelliOfficial
    @DavideMontingelliOfficial Před 5 lety +152

    One of the most sad moment of the entire Roman History...Damn Goths!

    • @Leivve
      @Leivve Před 5 lety +11

      If the Romans hadn't lost this battle, then the Alans wouldn't have been in the western roman empire to save them from the Huns. In the long game, Rome actually got a lot more then is lost from this battle.

    • @DavideMontingelliOfficial
      @DavideMontingelliOfficial Před 5 lety +13

      Yes, and then they went to the western part...Did you ever hear about the sack of Rome? Who is the stupid now?

    • @snapgab
      @snapgab Před 5 lety +16

      Everything would've been fine if they hadn't mistreated the Goths, it was their own damn fault.

    • @PascalSWE
      @PascalSWE Před 5 lety +7

      They couldve probably avoided this situation if they didnt try to quick fix the problem... twice.

    • @nottoday3817
      @nottoday3817 Před 5 lety +19

      Damn Goths? Please, the romans lost it by themselves. Especially the cavaly. Not only did they charge in like idiots without orders, they could not even give a deceisive blow. Then they got outflanked. Instead of forming up, analysing the situation and waiting for the enemy to make a mistake, like romans usually do

  • @neilmagsino9375
    @neilmagsino9375 Před 5 lety +4

    This man's voice is so goddamn relaxing!

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 Před 5 lety

    Thanks Baz I really needed this today

  • @r0b0saurusrex80
    @r0b0saurusrex80 Před 5 lety +2

    Great Video guys, and the narrator is Top Notch. This period of History is so overlooked and hope you guys keep these coming!

  • @kevinrvh
    @kevinrvh Před 5 lety +3

    How glad I am to have found this channel

  • @franciscomm7675
    @franciscomm7675 Před 5 lety +7

    Valentinian i the last great western roman emperor, his death and the battle of adrinople caused damages that even theodosius i couldn't heal

  • @dakloos316
    @dakloos316 Před 5 lety

    Absolutely Great! Keep up the great work!

  • @mikeforsyth6389
    @mikeforsyth6389 Před 5 lety

    Love these videos! Keep up the great work!!!!!!

  • @ScottGladstein
    @ScottGladstein Před 5 lety +36

    "Art of Conquest: War Without Limits"
    ...except all the freemium resources, energy, level caps, etc.
    You know, no limits.

  • @ivan55599
    @ivan55599 Před 5 lety +6

    "Valens was few kilometers away from Constantinople" - in map it is about 80 km. Everything is relative.

  • @tygonzalez9577
    @tygonzalez9577 Před 3 lety

    I love this channel always learning new things

  • @Saint_Sin
    @Saint_Sin Před 5 lety

    Oh BazBattles. This jump in production quality im seeing in the battle walk through. This is a new side of you and I like it! Keep up the good work!

  • @Muguratiu
    @Muguratiu Před 5 lety +39

    Another battle where unexpected reinforcements decide the outcome.
    All in all, I was trying to think as a general/commander of army:
    Fritigern: Ok, after the initial success with that weakling comes in Thracia now we face a few legions. Boy, this is not good, I must delay them and call for my friends and then, maybe, we will make history. This is our only shot, we can`t go back, those Huns will crush us, this is our only chance.
    Valens: My nephew isn`t arriving. I must crush this enemy. After all, they are a bunch of barbarians and reports say they are only 10k.
    Fritigern: We are attacked. Now it is the moment, now or never. We win or we die together with our families. Oh, the right flank is going down. We are going down.
    Valens: These undisciplined soldiers attacked without my command, but w8, in the left is going well. I think I will win. I will be like Caesar. Yes, yes, yes.
    Fritigern: My friends arrived. Unexpected. The gods helped us. I am rubbing my eyes and still can`t believe we are surrounding these LEGIONS!
    Valens: Enemy reinforcements. Why did I rushed? Couldn`t I`ve waited comfortably for my nephew? I can`t bare the shame. How can I stand tall when I will look upon my ancestors? I will be curageous until the end.

  • @TDSPTStheory
    @TDSPTStheory Před 5 lety +32

    -we want settlement
    *settles them in sassanid border*
    win and WIN

    • @skeptic781
      @skeptic781 Před 5 lety

      Haha nice

    • @subhelm6394
      @subhelm6394 Před 5 lety +11

      good luck convincing them to move across hundreds of kilometers with no food to a desert where theres even less food.

    • @TDSPTStheory
      @TDSPTStheory Před 5 lety +2

      that wasnt a deser back then, also. Food could be provided if you really need those tribes as buffer

    • @subhelm6394
      @subhelm6394 Před 5 lety +1

      They'd still probably wouldn't WANT to live there.

    • @francescofontana9707
      @francescofontana9707 Před 5 lety +1

      That was kind of the idea.
      Valens allowed them through because he wanted to use the Goths as volunteers in his armies and as paesants working his lands, it was common practice.

  • @Fallenstar37
    @Fallenstar37 Před 5 lety +2

    Nice, I really liked your Alexander videos I think that the ancient history is the most exotic, thus interesting.
    I hope to see more videos from those times!
    Thanks for vid

  • @michaelcarney6280
    @michaelcarney6280 Před 5 lety

    Another amazing story thank you BazBattles

  • @Miamcoline
    @Miamcoline Před 5 lety +3

    Much better context and visualisation than ive seen in much longer documentaries (bc of all the fluffing they do). Really appreciate the effort to accurately portray Valens' record, character and abilities! Very important. All other documentaries ive seen about the battle just throw him under the bus based on result of the battle and his subsequent reputation.
    Great job is what im sayin!

  • @kafon6368
    @kafon6368 Před 5 lety +12

    *Am I wrong for thinking this all could've been solved by diplomacy and Fritigern a useful ally against the Persians? Rome could've done a Feudal system where Fritigern pledges loyalty to Valens in exchange for land and call upon his warriors free of charge.*

    • @francescofontana9707
      @francescofontana9707 Před 5 lety +6

      That was the general idea when Valens gave then permission to cross, though the direct distribution of land to barbarian chiefs in exchange for military service was not yet common practice.
      What would have happened, and happened for centuries before this incident, is that the families would be given to land owners to settle as colones, while volunteers would have been sent to individual army units across the Empire.
      The both the East and West in the Roman Empire were permanently hungry for both farmers and soldiers.
      At times emperors would have led expeditions across the borders to capture slaves and recruits for the army.
      The poin of Adrianopolis is that the corruption of the Roman military machine, coupled with the unexpected number of this particular "band", halted this system.
      But all the people here saying "That's why the Empire fell" think themselves so smart because they drew the dullest possible parallel between what happenened then and today's migrations forget that the East recovered and came to an equilibrium with Gothic tribes, while the West, who didn't suffer this defeat, fell, and not because of the goths

    • @silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096
      @silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096 Před 5 lety

      Diplomacy is no substitute for strength--it depends on military strength for success.

    • @ModernDayRenaissanceMan
      @ModernDayRenaissanceMan Před 3 lety

      @@francescofontana9707 very wise

  • @MarkPelleyTheSnakeHunter

    Great video. Keep them coming.

  • @fatdaddyeddiejr
    @fatdaddyeddiejr Před 5 lety

    Once again. Another great video. Keep up the good work.

  • @ilnur9973
    @ilnur9973 Před 5 lety +27

    THEN THE ALAN RIDERS ARRIVED!

    • @Leivve
      @Leivve Před 5 lety

      You'd be surprised how true that actually is.

    • @fordy929
      @fordy929 Před 5 lety

      Don't we wish

  • @constanciocloro682
    @constanciocloro682 Před 4 lety +3

    Ojalá pueda agrgar subtítulos en español para el resto de los vídeos, se agradecen este tipo de materiales audiovisuales. Thank you

  • @Nietmeg
    @Nietmeg Před 5 lety +1

    Your voice and all of this is so good!

  • @jonweik4840
    @jonweik4840 Před 5 lety

    Dude love the pace you ate putting these , I visible get excited everytime I see a new video . Still would love to a BTS on. these

  • @pontan8084
    @pontan8084 Před 5 lety +39

    Still waiting for that Battle of Jultand, I will never give up

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Před 5 lety +2

      Fag Master it was actually a pretty anticlimactic just a bunch of dreadboughts nailing each other causing minimal damage

    • @pontan8084
      @pontan8084 Před 5 lety +2

      I wouldn't say like the biggest naval battle in history is that anticlimactic, and bigger ships did sink. Like the German Pre Dreadnought SMS Pommern. Anyway Baz did a vid on the Bismarck which is way less eventfull then this so

    • @pontan8084
      @pontan8084 Před 5 lety +2

      Well yeah, I know. But if they can do the Bismarck, then obviously they can do this, I mean how many ships got sunk in the Bismarck vid? Like 2 or 3. So the argument that its "anti climactic" isn't an excuse not to do it

    • @jonweik4840
      @jonweik4840 Před 5 lety +2

      Gotta point ^^

    • @Helghast470
      @Helghast470 Před 5 lety

      There is a really good video on the battle of Jutland in the very same sort of style as this one.

  • @wapcl1472
    @wapcl1472 Před 5 lety +3

    Dacia province was North of Danube not South-West as shown in that map. And Dacians were the same as Thracians , just on the northern side of Danube. Also Dacia provice contained the goths, visigoths, ostrogoths and other ethnics wich acted as a whole province.

  • @rabidspace6951
    @rabidspace6951 Před 5 lety +1

    Keep up the awesome videos!

  • @eekamini
    @eekamini Před 5 lety +1

    Yes! I can't wait to watch this tonight.

  • @solwod1697
    @solwod1697 Před 5 lety +6

    make battle of Grunwald

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden4 Před 5 lety +611

    As much as I love Roman history I hate hearing the late Empire getting defeated. ROMA INVICTA

    • @WCSPriest
      @WCSPriest Před 5 lety +33

      edgy

    • @felizdesdichado
      @felizdesdichado Před 5 lety +15

      ROMA AETERNA!

    • @atomixfang
      @atomixfang Před 5 lety +42

      There is nothing crigier than an edgelord throwing latin phrases at the of their sentences to appear smarter.

    • @recklessroges
      @recklessroges Před 5 lety +7

      Imperialx I have some bad news about your Roman Empire... hash-tag: breaking news (#teamLarsPorsena)

    • @connorgolden4
      @connorgolden4 Před 5 lety +1

      Reckless Roges What do you mean? Last time I checked Rome was unconquered.

  • @julez2106
    @julez2106 Před 4 lety

    Absolutely love this channel!

  • @zeddevalons
    @zeddevalons Před 5 lety

    Great stuff as always.

  • @imperatorecho9527
    @imperatorecho9527 Před 5 lety +8

    This is cool! Hail Byzantium!!!!!

  • @vraye
    @vraye Před 5 lety +23

    wololooo

    • @waitwhat69247
      @waitwhat69247 Před 5 lety +3

      red sheep blue sheep

    • @assarianmetalworks2942
      @assarianmetalworks2942 Před 5 lety +4

      food please!

    • @waitwhat69247
      @waitwhat69247 Před 5 lety +1

      btw if you have no idea what the hell we are on about the wololooo is a priest sound off age of empires and the red sheep blue sheep thing is a easter egg in minecraft related to the AOE priests

  • @apocalypse912
    @apocalypse912 Před 5 lety +2

    this channel has the most smooth transitions i've ever seen on youtube between the actual video and sponsored content

  • @markperacullo7541
    @markperacullo7541 Před 5 lety

    great video man as always

  • @keiththomas6147
    @keiththomas6147 Před 5 lety +3

    Are you gonna do the sacking of Rome in 410 AD by Frittergen's adopted son, Alaric?

  • @glynhumphrey6515
    @glynhumphrey6515 Před 5 lety +3

    The romans missed a big opportunity , they should have made the gothic leaders to swear an oath to fight for the defence roman empire for entery to the empire. then gifted them the southern land bordering the danube . it would have give the empire a small bufferzone between them and the huns plus gain more fighting men to call upon when the huns where planing a invasion as the goths would fight for there soil and people. but everything is easier in hindsight.

    • @htoodoh5770
      @htoodoh5770 Před 5 lety

      Glyn Humphrey It wasn't exactly possible.

    • @nefelovamon
      @nefelovamon Před 5 lety

      Given that the situation with the Goths lasted for years, i'm sure they had thought of what you said but did not want to go with it.

    • @francescofontana9707
      @francescofontana9707 Před 5 lety +1

      The idea was to break them up and use them as soldiers in the wars in persia, like it was done with thousands of other gothic warriors.
      It worked like that for centuries, but this time the task proved too complex for a number of reasons, mostly corruption of the officers who were supposed to keep the refugees fed and sheltered.
      The idea to settle whole tribe within the borders to act as buffers was a later one (see Visigoths in Southern France) but it proved fatal in the long run because it fragmented power too much, and when you give people the choice between a barbarian king who will protect them and a distant Emperor who won't they tend to choose the former.

  • @eriksigge4059
    @eriksigge4059 Před 5 lety +1

    Man these are great!

  • @rhysbrewer1777
    @rhysbrewer1777 Před 5 lety

    Good choice of music- gives me those pre-battle chills from RTW that I so miss.

  • @ModernDayRenaissanceMan
    @ModernDayRenaissanceMan Před 3 lety +3

    I love history. Such amazement that we know what happened so far back. Yet common sense tells us that likely - it didn't go down anything like that. Just ask someone alive today what happened during WW2. You'll get very different accounts depending on who you ask. It makes me wonder how accurate these stories are, & by extension who WE think WE are.

  • @unhappyad7886
    @unhappyad7886 Před 5 lety +9

    Baz u alive?

  • @DLeadShot
    @DLeadShot Před 5 lety

    I'm happy that the little introduction to the battle is back for this battle. It's a nice little framing for the rest of the video.

  • @AdrianSanchez-vk2gn
    @AdrianSanchez-vk2gn Před 5 lety

    I serously love this channel

  • @feynstein1004
    @feynstein1004 Před 5 lety +3

    I misread the title as Battle of Adrianpole and thought that was a really funky name 😂

  • @gordonblues843
    @gordonblues843 Před 5 lety +4

    So Gothic bands were revolting even back then.

  • @GAMEFREAK330
    @GAMEFREAK330 Před 5 lety

    YUS!
    I needed my fix of Baz!

  • @Ultimate93V
    @Ultimate93V Před 5 lety

    This just makes me wanna play Rome total war, awesome video ! Keep them coming

  • @ilhamionur
    @ilhamionur Před 5 lety +4

    Battle of Manzikiert or Battle of Vienna pls.

  • @theswedishdude1
    @theswedishdude1 Před 5 lety +549

    "let us into your country!"
    "ok"
    "give us free shit"
    "ok"
    "that's not enough! RIOT!"
    is this 378 or 2018?

    • @chandlerkivett40
      @chandlerkivett40 Před 5 lety +94

      Except one was an organized migrant issue that was trying multiple times to settle peacefully into a nation and try to use the protection of the empire and their own forces to defend themselves from the encroaching Huns who forced them out of their original homes, while at the same time being mistreated by Roman forces unduly and aggressively because they do not care about the lives of the Goths, and the other is a bunch of random immigrants who have no need to come into Europe because they wish to take advantage of economic systems because they destroyed their home country with internal dissent, yes explain to me how the Goths are the same as the Muslims.

    • @MrToddino
      @MrToddino Před 5 lety +38

      It was over a thousand years ago, calm your tits

    • @SimonNZ6969
      @SimonNZ6969 Před 5 lety +29

      Slightly untrue. I believe the Romans intentionally underfed them. At least I remember a different video describing it as such. Romans often dug their own graves with sheer arrogants.

    • @getfreur2458
      @getfreur2458 Před 5 lety +2

      El Psy yeah let's underfed dozens of thousands that outnumber us and still have their weapons.... Romans are not stupid like that.

    • @chandlerkivett40
      @chandlerkivett40 Před 5 lety +17

      And like I said, this is not a simple migrant issue, this is a literal nation on the march trying to settle new lands to try to survive. And yes I did watch the video, and I would like you to explain how the Romans could have resolved that scenario. They did not have the troops to stop them, but they still poked, prodded and generally malpractice the Goths who were a different tribe that simply wanted to settle in Bulgaria. Also, stop conflating modern immigration to the Romans, there were numerous issues that led to the migrant crisis of the end of the Roman empire, but numerous instances of Roman mistreatment of native tribes which led to mass unrest.

  • @bains6500
    @bains6500 Před 5 lety +2

    Great...Just Great... - Gratian 378 AD

  • @franciscocarvalho5680
    @franciscocarvalho5680 Před 5 lety +1

    i love your videos please continue

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před 5 lety +8

    *WE NEED TO BUILD A WALL!*

  • @maxmoore8123
    @maxmoore8123 Před 5 lety +12

    “Let us in your country”
    “Give us food”
    “You guys are not giving us enough”
    *Riot*
    Seems familiar

    • @axelandersson6314
      @axelandersson6314 Před 5 lety

      "F*** my Daughter"
      "You didn't F*** my daughter"
      "You disrespected our family"
      CASUS BELLI

    • @toddharig8142
      @toddharig8142 Před 5 lety

      I dont really get how its familiar?

    • @Kathayne636
      @Kathayne636 Před 4 lety +1

      @@toddharig8142 He's saying it sounds like Mexicans invading US and demanding lodging and 5-star cuisine.

    • @toddharig8142
      @toddharig8142 Před 4 lety

      @@Kathayne636 I know that's what he is saying. Im just calling fake news.

  • @darkzai618
    @darkzai618 Před 4 lety

    Probably the best channel for historical battles 👍👍👍

  • @swibmbae9532
    @swibmbae9532 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks awesome and well explained

  • @ShiningTony
    @ShiningTony Před 5 lety +4

    #Visigothswelcome #notallgoths

  • @akbrahma7739
    @akbrahma7739 Před 5 lety +36

    What do you expect starving n panic-stricken refugees under a charismatic leader, positioned secure atop a hill, with their women n children counting on them. They will give all they can to defend, and that they did. Barbarian or not, men will go to any limit for their women n children. This battle was doomed for the Romans at its very inception.

    • @Saeronor
      @Saeronor Před 5 lety +7

      You have to wonder what was Gothic leader thinking. If he loses *one* battle, it's not just a military setback - his tribe ceases to exist in an instant.
      On the other hand, what other choices did he have?
      Dividing his forces? Uh, they're already weaker than Valens.
      Leaving non-combatants behind and on their own in a hostile territory, with a number of Roman cities around? Not good either.
      Still, this situation should've given some advantages to Valens as well.
      - Since Goths did not seem to have their own cavalry around, Romans had months to harass them - and even if Alans were present earlier, Roman cavalry neutralizes them to some extent.
      - With Gothic forces being tied down to protect the main camp Valens could've focused on killing off foraging parties and other roaming bands, ensuring local superiority in every case. Even if main Gothic force breaks camp and moves in to rescue one of endangered detachments, Romans can always gtfo, destroying other groups in the meantime.
      - Finally, can you imagine what happens, when Roman cavalry actually listens to orders and does some proper flanking, ending up inside camp? Even if they start looting and make o other contribution to the battle, you have half the Gothic warriors scrambling to rescue their families. Bye bye frontline.
      At this point I wonder if Valens even knew Gothic women and children were around. It's a massive morale boost for a defender, but also a massive disadvantage if properly exploited. Doesn't seem Valens tried, as his army deployed as if for an ordinary battle, instead.

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 Před 5 lety +5

      This type of thinking is what caused Stalin to refuse to let civilians evacuate Stalingrad. Stalin said his men would fight harder if they knew they had to protect the woman and children. So woman and children were stuck in the most horrific battles of all time. Thousands of non combatants died as a result.

    • @Saeronor
      @Saeronor Před 5 lety +4

      It's this special kind of win, where circa 200k civilians got deported to do slave labor for Germans instead of evacuating beforehand and ending up in a T-34 factory somewhere behind Ural.

    • @8ncient1
      @8ncient1 Před 5 lety +2

      Yep I would have sent the cavalry around the back of the hill in secret. Pillage the camp followers then rush the main line from behind, and have them rejoin the main army again. Problem solved. Then ignore that army and focus on shoring up the river border. Then retreat to walled cities to wait them out.

    • @subhelm6394
      @subhelm6394 Před 5 lety +2

      It's not like the Goths are just standing there letting the Romans control their population. They're literally standing a few meters right in front of their families. A cavalry strike there is suicide for the men and it'd give the Goths even more reason to fight to the death since they've little left to live for. Even if the main roman army engages, the Gothic force is still big enough to delay and deal a lot of damage. Putting them in an even worse position when the Alan horsemen arrive.

  • @juanfranciscocosta5387

    Great work

  • @Deballation
    @Deballation Před 5 lety

    You have no idea how much I love you guys for using Rome: Total War music in this video! Love you guys!

  • @jimmythebuddhistbee8786
    @jimmythebuddhistbee8786 Před 5 lety +22

    #ostrorapistnotwelcomehere #buildhadrianswall #makeromagreatagain

  • @keeroy
    @keeroy Před 5 lety +8

    uncontrolled migration into europe? sounds familiar...

  • @marcelomatarese1402
    @marcelomatarese1402 Před 4 lety

    Excellent! Well done! Greetings from Argentina.

  • @Ethereum-tt9pr
    @Ethereum-tt9pr Před 5 lety +1

    thanks for the video

  • @karenarmstrong8141
    @karenarmstrong8141 Před 5 lety +3

    >troops charge forward without even being told to
    13:27 "well disciplined"

    • @subhelm6394
      @subhelm6394 Před 5 lety +1

      It's easy for you to say, with modern day communication and laws. But literally it takes just one impatient cavalryman to charge and set everything off. Good luck telling them to stop with flags and trumpets.

    • @voltagedrop5899
      @voltagedrop5899 Před 5 lety

      +nahte armystrong
      roman units of the late empire were anything but disciplined. most of the western troops consisted of barbarian mercenaries led by barbarian chieftains and of poor-quality auxiliaries. if these units had to fight the legions from the 1st centuries BC and AD, they would get utterly crushed every time because the legions had a much higher morale, discipline, leadership and training.

    • @karenarmstrong8141
      @karenarmstrong8141 Před 5 lety

      exactly he called them well discipline,well armored legionaries,even though the empire at this state in time didn't have the glorious powerful army from other eras in romes history

  • @IONindustries627
    @IONindustries627 Před 5 lety +117

    Man...history does repeat itself

  • @pladimir_vutin
    @pladimir_vutin Před 5 lety

    Great. Just great video.

  • @EternalGaming786
    @EternalGaming786 Před 5 lety

    Meow I love your story telling style unbiased and nicely presented :3!!

  • @thegodemperors45thlegionof41

    Build the wall! And kick them out!

    • @jayy_lalive2343
      @jayy_lalive2343 Před 5 lety +2

      Proclivity to Destroy Leftists but all that was kind of galic and thratian land before Rome took it over. What do you mean?

    • @gentlebabarian
      @gentlebabarian Před 5 lety +2

      The Danube was an wall of water. They just not had enough troops to hold them out

    • @brenthud2170
      @brenthud2170 Před 5 lety +4

      Conservatism is a mental disorder.

    • @francomarinetti4059
      @francomarinetti4059 Před 5 lety +1

      Varangian Guard I agree! We should believe more in our instinct, just like we did most of human history

    • @halahmilksheikh
      @halahmilksheikh Před 5 lety +5

      "If you don't have a border, you don't have a country." Trump was right

  • @nickui
    @nickui Před 5 lety +321

    "Refugees welcome"

    • @gostavoadolfos2023
      @gostavoadolfos2023 Před 5 lety +35

      Cael Kernil I don't know why I kept thinking of Merkel while watching this?😂😂 glad I am not the only one.

    • @ChevyChase301
      @ChevyChase301 Před 5 lety +40

      Cael Kernil Gothic, Alan, and Frankish Refugees saves Rome from being entirely destroyed. Battle of Catalaunian fields boi.

    • @nedimbajgoric2909
      @nedimbajgoric2909 Před 5 lety +21

      Cael Kernil isnt america built on refugees

    • @HawkPlatinum
      @HawkPlatinum Před 5 lety +6

      Cael Kernil Only that we literally have contemporary roman chronists telling us that the Goths were daco-thracians. The only ones promoting the germanic origin of the goths are the germans themselves and prussian pseudo-historians. There is absolutely no evidence of germanic culture found anywhere near the Balkans or Crimea. "Were ravaging the countryside" (one of the most fertile regions in the Balkans and Europe as a whole) also "were starving", yeah pick one. The whole thing looks much more like a rebellion that the romans would try to twist in order to preserve whatever morale they had left. Funnily enough, seems to have a similar course with how the Bulgarians would uprise against the Byzantine Empire about 1000 years later.

    • @leaveme3559
      @leaveme3559 Před 5 lety +13

      EMH dude during massive wars going on in Europe people used to flee and come to America....like come on it's all there on google

  • @tomaszbondzio6279
    @tomaszbondzio6279 Před 5 lety

    The most epic channel on youtube! :)
    More please😎

  • @tagitabtimanwa8898
    @tagitabtimanwa8898 Před 5 lety

    I saw the notification... but its not worth to watch without my favorite foods. BazBattles is a day saver.