As a fellows RDH, I appreciate the effort and detail you’ve invested in providing a wide selection of recognized oral rinses in educating us about pH concerns. Regularly Being asked “should I be using a daily mouthwash “, I’m grateful for the pH comparative and will share the information with patients. One cannot always rely upon the ADA seal of approval when grabbing a dental product…know the goal of your purchase. Thanks!
Thanks for explaining about the PH level, I didn't know anything about that. I've used listerine on and off for many years but stopped using it as I was sure it was damaging my enamel. I used it after brushing too and didn't know it was bad.
Thank you so much! years and years of depression lead to having issues with my hygiene and therefore my teeth, finally I'm starting to recover and I was just wondering about mouthwashes. Thank you so much! nice video
Having this knowledge, I don't understand why these products aren't reformulated into a "new and improved version?" Essentially, every one of them are bad for our teeth and gums yet that's all you see out there. I never even heard of the ones you mentioned, but am sure going to check them out. It seems our FDA (if that is the organization that decides which products are acceptable) is failing us and doing us harm in almost every way.
A couple years ago, my dental hygienist had me switch from Listerine to Closys. It was hard, because I had been using Listerine since the late 1980s. But after seeing this video, I'm glad I made the switch!
@@ceciliapreziose3783I’ve used it to feel more confident about my breath & to “help” reduce (or hopefully stop) receding gums…. Occasionally I use peroxide to rinse with, but mostly Listerine or Biotene (sometimes Crest because it doesn’t sting). Biotene doesn’t help for breath (and never really helped me for dry mouth, that’s why I switched to the non-alcohol version of Crest and a few times a month would use Peroxide as a form of “deep cleaning”). I can say that my allergies (& post nasal drip) do make me feel more insecure about bad breath… although when I go to the dentist, they tell me that my mouth isn’t “malodorous” (yes, I ask them!). I can’t take more allergy meds (due to side-effects) and thought I was doing the right thing with the mouthwash. I’ve heard that gum with xylitol is supposed to be good for teeth & gums, but I’m not really into chewing gum… as a hygienist, do you have an opinion about gum with xylitol & how it might impact your teeth/ gums? Thank you for your opinion! 😊
Using Listerine for years now.. and the alcohol type at that too, which is only more acidic... That would explain my slowly receding gums and absolutely eroded enamel :( I wish my dentist told me that, because honestly she's been saying that it's only due to me "brushing too hard" when I am pretty sure I do it right and I do have a soft brush... Time to change my dentist ASAP.
@@BRIANDER100honestly, it actually does feel better! I have used it maybe a dozen times max since I wrote that comment after lunch or something that left a strong taste in my mouth to just rinse it off but overall I feel like it is less dry. I didn't change anything else and I always drank a lot of water, nothing else, so I must say it did help staying away from alcohol mouthwash! my gums seem to feel healthier too or rather I don't feel the exposed teeth are sensitive anymore
Titratable acidity would be a better metric than pH, in terms of enamel erosion risk. Also, some acids, such as phosphoric acid, are much more destructive to hydroxyapatite crystals, than others (citric acid).
One thing you can do is buy Listerine breath strips, put one in your mouth, and swish around some water like a normal mouthwash, then spit it out. The pH of the resulting liquid is neutral (I tested it by dissolving a breath strip in water). It also makes a great portable mouthwash.
I've heard a dentist say that if we use CloSYS right before brushing our teeth, since it alkalinizes our mouth, this means we can even brush our teeth pretty much right after eating without harming our teeth. Would you agree?
@@DentistrywithDerik thanks Derik. If I understand correctly, you're saying we need to wait for the teeth to remineralize before we brush our teeth? Following Dr. Ellie Phillips's advice, I've been taking 1g of pure xylitol crystals after every meal. But she advises against taking Xylitol right before cloSYS, because she says cloSYS works better in a slightly acidic environment. Is that your understanding as well?
@@ab78001..I don't understand why closys works better in an acidic environment. Also I bought her zellies mints and they make me feel hungry! Which I don't like! Have you ever tried them?
@@ab78001Nice. Fellow Dr. Ellie fan. 🤝😅 Listerine mouthwash only kills bad bacteria. It says it kills bacteria that causes mouth problems. Dr. Ellie recommends it. Baking soda isn't good for your mouth, according to Dr. Ellie. Shalom. Flossing isn't gonna do much if nothing is lodged there, and studies show mouthwash is far more effective at removing debris, and plaque, than some string. Dr. Ellie speaks a lot about it.
I am not understanding this. Why is the pH of something you swish around in your mouth for thirty seconds relevant at all? What is the baseline pH of your mouth, and how long will the duration of the pH change within your mouth after use of a mouthwash be? What about the pH of food and drinks? How would the significance of a low pH mouthwash compare to basic eating and drinking throughout the day? Should people not consume citrus fruits whatsoever?
Thanks so much for this info. I had to do some research after listening to Dr. Ellie Phillips on using listerine. Now I'm starting to experience little pockets between my gums after a few weeks. I truly believe it is due to the fact that it's very acidic. I will try the products you recommend as well as salt water or natural products like coconut oil
Just came across your channel in my YT recommendations and wanted to say I find your presentation style and voice very soothing to listen to unlike another popular YT channel called "Teeth Talk Girl" with RDH Whitney DiFoggio" whose distracting body and mouth movements make it very hard to watch.
This is mostly an issue for people that have decreased flow of saliva, like older people on alot of medications, people undergoing cancer treatment, etc.
@@Magnulus76 Some rinses like Listerine were developed back in the 1800's when our knowledge of their effects were limited. As science progresses, it becomes necessary to make changes. Unfortunately changing product formulas on well-known brands presents marketing risks for manufacturers.
@@DentistrywithDerik So, you're essentially saying that in the 2020's we still use formulas from the 1800's and have denied the advances in science. Thanks Mr CZcams "doctor".
THE ONE’S ON THE “BAD LIST” ARE THE ONE’S MY DENTIST RECOMMENDS?!?!?! I watched this twice… I can’t believe how much I’ve been led astray. I see the posters in the dentist office about acidity and have changed what I eat/drink based on this info… WHY CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND BAD MOUTHWASH?!?!?
That’s a great question! Sadly a lot of providers don’t give it much thought and worse the companies that make these products heavily leverage their influence in dental offices.
I’m so sick of all these companies! Ugh! It’s just criminal! Everything is a lie- stevia in the raw.. nope maltodextrin - it’s everything!! Ty for this - just threw my ACT in the garbage
So true. When everyone is talking how great xylitol is i bot it only to find after my own research that xylitol causes blood clots nd cardiovascular problems! Really dont know who to believe. Thank you for this video.
Invaluable information! I appreciate your time to do the research and share your findings. I am.going to share this. We have our health system backward here. Dental should be more affordable, and there should be more information.on product labels, as our mouth and teeth are the gateway to good health. Can't eat a healthy diet with deteriorating teeth and oral health problems!
You are very right about our health system being backwards! We need to be more focused on affordable prevention so that expensive restorative treatments are less necessary :)
really important but very sad to see you didn't discuss whether alcohol in the rinse played a part...you mention colgate and crest rinses as having high ph's, but i use the non-alcohol versions, but do not know by your report whether that makes a difference. would love to hear back here if you have that info.
Hi! My name is Cody! I came across your CZcams page as I was researching oral rinses. 4 months ago my dentist prescribed me Peridex oral rinse because I had gingivitis, along with having braces. The rinse cleared up my gingivitis, but I am pretty sure the gingivitis is back, because I have some puffy gums in-between my braces brackets, but I don’t see my dentist again until December. I have been doing excellent home care but there were times I slacked big time with flossing.. so I was wondering if you could give me a really good OTC alternative for (chlorhexidine)? there are tons of articles online that mention several different oral rinses, but I’d rather have your opinion on which rinse would be the best! Thank you in advance, I greatly appreciate it!
Hi Cody! Closys Sensitive toothpaste and rinse are excellent substitutes for Peridex. Using them in conjunction with a waterflosser and sonic toothbrush give excellent results.
Dr. Ellie recommends ACT and Listerine mouthwashes as part of her oral care regimen, which, according to this video, are to be avoided. She also recommends Closys which is a recommended mouthwash in this video.
She indicates the Listerine does not harm the teeth if it is taken immediately after brushing because of the toothpaste protective layer. Regarding ACT, I guess she is using a different formulation because she is aware of the acidity risk and indicates ACT should be used as the last rinse to get rid of the Listerine. I am not saying this is all correct information, but this is what she is saying.
Is the risk posed by acidic mouthwashes that severe? It’s my understanding that an acidic environment is formed multiple times a day by the foods we eat, even barring more acidic culprits like coffee, high sugar foods, etc. Can’t we just rinse with water (at least for antiseptic mouthwashes) afterwards, like we would after a meal, to mitigate the risk? Asking out of curiosity, and also because I just bought a 3 pack of crest from Sam’s
You are correct about the acidic environments created by frequent snacking and sipping of foods/beverages. Rinsing with water after a snack or an acidic beverage is the easiest way to neutralize your saliva's pH levels, and is something I encourage all my patients to do. There really is no reason to add further causes for erosion in an acidic mouthwash which is why i only recommend rinses that are pH+. The damage might be minor, but it will be cumulative. My goal is help patients keep their teeth for a lifetime. Hope that answers your question :)
I heard that fluoride rinses need to be slightly acidic to lightly etch the tooth so they can absorb the fluoride and make your teeth resistant to acid and decay…..
Because fluroapetatite is stronger than the type of apetite that teeth are made of. Sorry I’m a barber not a dentist but you should understand what I’m saying
@@itsaaronlolz that’s actually a misconception - a negative pH environment is needed for a cavity to form. Carifree CTX3, Closys Silver and Therabreath “Healthy Smile” are all pH+ fluoride rinses that don’t run the risk of erosion or acid sensitivity.
Why do dentists use the Listerine and Crest mouthwashes in their offices with their patients? What can you share about the Sensodyne Pro-Enamel mouthwash?
I ordered a bottle of the Sensodyne Pronamel mouthwash and will test the pH. I’ll post a #short video on the subject after I’ve researched it. Your first question will require a longer video, but I will get to it :)
I was just wondering as I have quite sensitive teeth and suffering from sensitive teeth such as to cold and hot beverages and some slight sensitive gums in some places around gum in my mouth I found here in UK there is a brand called Ultradex mouthwash other than common Listerine or Oral B also another recommendation was to use Sensodyne mouthwash just like Sensodyne toothpaste which is renowned for their toothpaste for patients like myself with sensitive teeth or gums. I was therefore wondering if you or anyone knows about Ultradex brand mouthwash and if it's any good/ okay for patients especially like myself with sensitive teeth but also at same time having suffering with epilepsy for many years and daily chronic migraines and or other health issues which can cause difficulty in brushing teeth or other daily activities due to being forgetful, unstable etc. Kind regards, Tom from UK.😊
Hi Derik, thanks a lot for the informative video! I understand that all mouthwashes containing fluoride are acidic because the chemical reaction for fluoride to bond (sorry if that’s not the correct term) only happens in an acidic environment. Can you confirm if that’s the case, ie there’s actually a trade-off between fluoride mouthwash and neutral/alkaline rinses?
Thank you so much for this. My hygienist recommended closys for me. Does it actually work? I'm kinda scared to use it but if it's gonna help make my teeth better than why not Are there any side effects New subscriber
I am phobic to chemicals and so far I am ash user and breath free of antibacterials byproduct. Dr even if you share nice information , I got tough to change my mind soon ! thanks .
Thank you so much for the wonderful video! I was wondering which THERABREATH version is the best one to use to protect enamel and exposed Dentin? THERABREATH has a few different options. May you please recommend the one that's best for enamel protection and repair? Thank you!!
@@DentistrywithDerik Hi again! I hope all is well! I've been using the pink Therabreath ever since your recommendation and love it! The only thing is its a bit expensive - so I use it sparingly and get it on sale on Amazon. Of note, I saw at Shoppers Drug Mart a product called "Crest Pro Health Advanced Anticavity Fluoride Mouthwash Alcohol Free." I was just wondering if you felt that was a comparable product to Therabreath pink bottle? If so, I would switch to Crest because it was cheaper. However, if you think that that Crest product is still in the damaging category, then of course I will stick with Therabreath brand. Is there a certain ingredient that the Crest has that makes it damaging? I saw the Crest had CPC in the inactive ingredients list, and so I was concerned it might cause teeth staining. I know Therabreath fortunately does not have CPC. However the Crest said it had extra Fluoride and was alchohol free so I was just wondering what your thoughts were... if this particular Crest product is as good as Therabreath or if its still one that you would refrain from. Thank you!!!
Could be used Closys before the toothpaste and RT-3 after for risk of cavities? So essential both over the same session? Do Closys Ultra sensitive is ok too?
I am using Peridex for gingivitis prescribed by my dentist. It's on your list of mouthwashes NOT to use. So what should I do? Try something else. It's going to stain my teeth and the hygenist will remove the stains at my next cleaning. What do you recommend I do?
Dentists and dental hygienists frequently have differences of opinion on products. Peridex (Chlorhexidine gluconate) is a prescription rinse, that has been used for years, but is falling out of favor with the rise of newer products, largely due to its staining side effects. You should absolutely follow the advice of your provider, but generally speaking, that rinse is intended for the short term, not the long term. As long you use it as directed, erosion is unlikely.
My general recommendation is Closys sensitive but Therabreath Gum Health also works well. However, you really need to have a license dental provider determine if it is just gingivitis. Over the counter rinses need to be used in conjunction with professional care, and may not solve underlying problems.
A question regarding Closys and sites listing tooth staining. ?? I really like the Closys but in looking it up online some sites mention tooth staining as a "common" side effect. What is that about? I have stopped using it because I don't want staining. Can you clear this up? Thank you.
You’re welcome to forward me the information from those sites, but Closys not only does not stain, it can actually mildly improve the appearance of your teeth.
Please please please reply me I have recently bought colgate PLAX mouthwash i dont know if its good to use or not so please reply that whether i should use it or not
Hii not sure if u still replying to comments, but I plan on getting the “Hello gingivitis Mouthwash” i want to prevent my receding gums from getting worse. It has aloe Vera and coconut oil in it, no alcohol in it as well. Do you think it’s safe for my teeth and gums and low ph?
@@DentistrywithDerikhow effective are salt water gargles? How long / often can you use them? After a teeth clean I was told to rinse as gums were but swollen. She didn’t say how long for. It seemed to be indefinite / until next visit. Which is months away. Won’t this erode enamel? Thank you
I have been using Crest gum health mouthwash for about two months and my already sensitive teeth have started hurting in the last week. If I stop using these will my teeth go back to the way they were or is the damage already done and they will always hurt like this now? I'm so upset that I did something I thought was good for me and it made everything worse. 😭
Can you please help with concerns to products in South Africa... Cause half of the products mentioned in the video are not found locally in south africa
I wish I could. Unfortunately I don’t have access to product lines in South Africa. They best thing I can recommend in this circumstance is to avoid any containing alcohol or test them with a pH testing strip.
It won’t get rid of them, but it can lessen the load of pathogens in the oral cavity, thus lowering some of the causes of bad breath. Tonsil stones are magnets for these pathogens and allow bad breath to continue. An ENT (ear, nose and throat) specialist is probably your best resource in this area. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0239/7795/1296/files/CloSYSRinseMalodorManagement.pdf?17559244125054379664
The ones I recommended do work. “Natural” mouthwashes generally are not very effective. You can read the details on pH and active ingredients on my blog: www.dentistrywithderik.com/blog/is-your-mouthwash-helping-or-hurting-your-teeth
@@DentistrywithDerik Cetylpyridinium Chloride (0.05%) does this stain teeth?! Thank you. I read somewhere it’s rare or doesn’t if it’s in clear liquid? Confused !
It can be different for two primary reasons: 1. Formulation Differences: The presence of other ingredients can affect the final pH. These could include buffers, stabilizers, flavoring agents, sweeteners, and other active ingredients intended to target different oral health issues. 2. Concentration of Active Ingredient: The concentration of the active ingredient can influence the pH. Higher concentrations might require adjustments in the formula to maintain a pH that’s safe and comfortable for oral tissues.
I just bought Listerine and ACT a week ago to start a system recommended by another Dentist. I also bought Closys too. The Listerine and ACT will have to be trashed, thankfully they didn't cost much. What is your thoughts on Xylitol? And what toothpaste do you recommend? I'll look and see if I can find some info on your other videos.
Xylitol is an alcohol sugar that cavity-causing bacteria cannot metabolize. Using it in dental products is a safe way of reducing cavity risk. Just know it is toxic to dogs.
I have never seen Colgate Plax available for purchase in the US. Colgate does offer different versions of the products in different countries. Unfortunately I don’t have the pH for that particular product. You can purchase a pH tester and identify it’s relative pH from home.
@@mariorico440 it can be (as long as the manufacture's instructions are followed with regard to dilution), but the pH levels can still be under 6.5, making it less than ideal.
Carifree CTX3. Many patients with braces experience demineralization around their brackets -- this can help to minimize it. (Good choice on the Damon braces btw, I used them for my ortho treatment)
So this guy says some mouthwashes are bad for our teeth and harm them(with zero evidence I might add). Then proceeds to list every brand found on the shelf at every store in my area as the violators. The majority of them having the ADA seal affixed. Why am I suspicious? Are you saying the American Dental Assoc is in a conpriracy with “big mouthwash” to harm our teeth and keep us coming back to the dentist? Or are you sponsored by the brands you recommended?
Well, first @jackhammer, I am NOT sponsored by any manufacturer or brand of dental products. Secondly, if you had watched the entire video, you would have seen the references to supporting journals given on my website’s blog www.dentistrywithderik.com/blog/is-your-mouthwash-helping-or-hurting-your-teeth As far as the ADA’s seal of acceptance goes, you seem to have a misunderstanding of what the seal means - it is not a guarantee that the product is perfect or that it cannot cause harm. It is simply an assurance that it does what the manufacturer claims. You will see under the seal a statement such as “improving bad breath” or whatever is pertinent to the claim. My opinion on pH levels in mouthwashes is in keeping with such dental institutes as the Kois Center. Hope this answers your questions.
But alas, No need to argue I suppose, just seems fishy to me as my numerous dentists over the years have never mentioned it to me before when I specifically ask them about mouthwashes.
@@jackhammer8439 seriously this happens all the time this kind of thing. You really think companies and government regulators give a shit about you? You may want to rethink some things
I will do a video on oil pulling soon. There is nothing wrong with it, and it does have some benefits, but it should never replace traditional brushing and flossing.
@@DentistrywithDerik thanks Derik. This has been such a confusing topic for me lately. Dr Ellie Phillips says coconut oil pulling destroys both the good and bad bacteria, and points to a study comparing coconut oil pulling to chlorhexidine and the oil pulling was comparable to chlorhexidine in reducing both the streptococcus mutans count as well as the total oral bacteria count. Therefore, she advises against coconut oil pulling, because she says we want to have a healthy oral biofilm. But I've also seen other studies that show coconut oil doesn't kill all bacteria. I've seen studies mostly about gut microbiome, showing that coconut oil feeds the good bacteria but kills the bad bacteria. So I wonder why it would do something different in the oral cavity. I want to achieve a healthy oral microbial biofilm.
Do you have a dental question I can answer in a video? Let me know!
I never thought of this. Make a response to teethtalk girl. She does not take PH into account wrt mouthwashes.
@@ashlynnundlall yes, I’ve seen @teethtalkgirl ‘s videos. Taking pH levels into account is frequently missed by dental professionals.
I'm looking for a good mouth wash so Do you really recommend closys ? Or are you paid to recommend ?
@@isaacellis9229 I am not sponsored by any company to recommend their products. Closys, Carifree CTX3 or Therabreath are the three I recommend.
@@DentistrywithDerik ok thank you . What toothpaste do you recommend ? Also do you recommend firm , medium or soft toothbrushes for adults ?
As a fellows RDH, I appreciate the effort and detail you’ve invested in providing a wide selection of recognized oral rinses in educating us about pH concerns. Regularly Being asked “should I be using a daily mouthwash “, I’m grateful for the pH comparative and will share the information with patients. One cannot always rely upon the ADA seal of approval when grabbing a dental product…know the goal of your purchase. Thanks!
You’re welcome!
Thanks for explaining about the PH level, I didn't know anything about that. I've used listerine on and off for many years but stopped using it as I was sure it was damaging my enamel. I used it after brushing too and didn't know it was bad.
Thank you so much! years and years of depression lead to having issues with my hygiene and therefore my teeth, finally I'm starting to recover and I was just wondering about mouthwashes. Thank you so much! nice video
Glad I could help!
Hope you are well Deni. I was much the same, and abusing nicotine without care. Obsessing over getting my oral health back on track now. Best of luck.
Do you still use mouthwash ?
Having this knowledge, I don't understand why these products aren't reformulated into a "new and improved version?" Essentially, every one of them are bad for our teeth and gums yet that's all you see out there. I never even heard of the ones you mentioned, but am sure going to check them out. It seems our FDA (if that is the organization that decides which products are acceptable) is failing us and doing us harm in almost every way.
A couple years ago, my dental hygienist had me switch from Listerine to Closys. It was hard, because I had been using Listerine since the late 1980s. But after seeing this video, I'm glad I made the switch!
should have never used! I am a RDH over 40 years. NEVER recommended any mouth washes.......Think about it, why did you use it?
@@ceciliapreziose3783I’ve used it to feel more confident about my breath & to “help” reduce (or hopefully stop) receding gums…. Occasionally I use peroxide to rinse with, but mostly Listerine or Biotene (sometimes Crest because it doesn’t sting). Biotene doesn’t help for breath (and never really helped me for dry mouth, that’s why I switched to the non-alcohol version of Crest and a few times a month would use Peroxide as a form of “deep cleaning”).
I can say that my allergies (& post nasal drip) do make me feel more insecure about bad breath… although when I go to the dentist, they tell me that my mouth isn’t “malodorous” (yes, I ask them!). I can’t take more allergy meds (due to side-effects) and thought I was doing the right thing with the mouthwash.
I’ve heard that gum with xylitol is supposed to be good for teeth & gums, but I’m not really into chewing gum… as a hygienist, do you have an opinion about gum with xylitol & how it might impact your teeth/ gums? Thank you for your opinion! 😊
Thank you - this is the simplest most common sense video I have seen on mouth washes. Thank you again
Using Listerine for years now.. and the alcohol type at that too, which is only more acidic... That would explain my slowly receding gums and absolutely eroded enamel :( I wish my dentist told me that, because honestly she's been saying that it's only due to me "brushing too hard" when I am pretty sure I do it right and I do have a soft brush... Time to change my dentist ASAP.
ONE DENTIST WILL TELL YOU ONE THING WHILE THE OTHER DENTIST WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO WHO DO YOU BELIEVE ?
HOW IS YOUR MOUTH NOW ?
@@BRIANDER100honestly, it actually does feel better! I have used it maybe a dozen times max since I wrote that comment after lunch or something that left a strong taste in my mouth to just rinse it off but overall I feel like it is less dry. I didn't change anything else and I always drank a lot of water, nothing else, so I must say it did help staying away from alcohol mouthwash! my gums seem to feel healthier too or rather I don't feel the exposed teeth are sensitive anymore
Are you using any other mouthwash right now ?@@AishaKyes
@@BRIANDER100 Nope, only floss and anti-cavity toothpaste!
Titratable acidity would be a better metric than pH, in terms of enamel erosion risk. Also, some acids, such as phosphoric acid, are much more destructive to hydroxyapatite crystals, than others (citric acid).
Can you do a video on the best toothpaste to use for cavity protection, enamel repair, and gum protection?
I actually made one that answers many of those questions: czcams.com/video/ixrjUZK_5uY/video.html
Any opinion on rinsing with salt water?
One thing you can do is buy Listerine breath strips, put one in your mouth, and swish around some water like a normal mouthwash, then spit it out. The pH of the resulting liquid is neutral (I tested it by dissolving a breath strip in water). It also makes a great portable mouthwash.
That is unconventional ;)
Closys is my favorite! I got recommendations from my dentist
This is helpful information. Thanks for sharing, and God bless you!
I have started to use Closys and LOVE it!
I've heard a dentist say that if we use CloSYS right before brushing our teeth, since it alkalinizes our mouth, this means we can even brush our teeth pretty much right after eating without harming our teeth. Would you agree?
In theory, yes, but it depends on how quickly the teeth remineralize.
@@DentistrywithDerik thanks Derik. If I understand correctly, you're saying we need to wait for the teeth to remineralize before we brush our teeth? Following Dr. Ellie Phillips's advice, I've been taking 1g of pure xylitol crystals after every meal. But she advises against taking Xylitol right before cloSYS, because she says cloSYS works better in a slightly acidic environment. Is that your understanding as well?
@@ab78001..I don't understand why closys works better in an acidic environment. Also I bought her zellies mints and they make me feel hungry! Which I don't like! Have you ever tried them?
@@ab78001Nice. Fellow Dr. Ellie fan. 🤝😅
Listerine mouthwash only kills bad bacteria. It says it kills bacteria that causes mouth problems. Dr. Ellie recommends it. Baking soda isn't good for your mouth, according to Dr. Ellie. Shalom.
Flossing isn't gonna do much if nothing is lodged there, and studies show mouthwash is far more effective at removing debris, and plaque, than some string. Dr. Ellie speaks a lot about it.
I am not understanding this. Why is the pH of something you swish around in your mouth for thirty seconds relevant at all? What is the baseline pH of your mouth, and how long will the duration of the pH change within your mouth after use of a mouthwash be? What about the pH of food and drinks? How would the significance of a low pH mouthwash compare to basic eating and drinking throughout the day? Should people not consume citrus fruits whatsoever?
I think you can watch the video he recommended
That is a great question. I may need to make a video on this as well!
more skincare products are putting the ph on their labels now. maybe they should do that with mouthwashes also.
They should! However, their marketing teams would never approve the idea, as it would almost certainly cause a loss in revenue.
Thanks so much for this info. I had to do some research after listening to Dr. Ellie Phillips on using listerine. Now I'm starting to experience little pockets between my gums after a few weeks. I truly believe it is due to the fact that it's very acidic. I will try the products you recommend as well as salt water or natural products like coconut oil
Glad it was helpful!
Just came across your channel in my YT recommendations and wanted to say I find your presentation style and voice very soothing to listen to unlike another popular YT channel called "Teeth Talk Girl" with RDH Whitney DiFoggio" whose distracting body and mouth movements make it very hard to watch.
Thank you so much. Your video was awesome at explaining the various mouthwashes. I will try the TheraBreath for gums one.
This is mostly an issue for people that have decreased flow of saliva, like older people on alot of medications, people undergoing cancer treatment, etc.
Yes it is, but it remains a contributing factor for erosion on young and healthy teeth as well.
@@DentistrywithDerik Why are so many mouthwashes formulated to be acidic? Obviously, it helps shelf stability, but is that the only reason?
@@Magnulus76 Some rinses like Listerine were developed back in the 1800's when our knowledge of their effects were limited. As science progresses, it becomes necessary to make changes. Unfortunately changing product formulas on well-known brands presents marketing risks for manufacturers.
@@DentistrywithDerik So, you're essentially saying that in the 2020's we still use formulas from the 1800's and have denied the advances in science. Thanks Mr CZcams "doctor".
THE ONE’S ON THE “BAD LIST” ARE THE ONE’S MY DENTIST RECOMMENDS?!?!?!
I watched this twice… I can’t believe how much I’ve been led astray. I see the posters in the dentist office about acidity and have changed what I eat/drink based on this info… WHY CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND BAD MOUTHWASH?!?!?
That’s a great question! Sadly a lot of providers don’t give it much thought and worse the companies that make these products heavily leverage their influence in dental offices.
Thank you so much. So far the best video on a topic
I’m so sick of all these companies! Ugh! It’s just criminal! Everything is a lie- stevia in the raw.. nope maltodextrin - it’s everything!! Ty for this - just threw my ACT in the garbage
So true. When everyone is talking how great xylitol is i bot it only to find after my own research that xylitol
causes blood clots nd cardiovascular problems! Really dont know who to believe.
Thank you for this video.
Thank you so much for answering. That helps a great deal. I don't remember the sites but will clip them here if I find them again.
Invaluable information!
I appreciate your time to do the research and share your findings.
I am.going to share this.
We have our health system backward here.
Dental should be more affordable, and there should be more information.on product labels, as our mouth and teeth are the gateway to good health.
Can't eat a healthy diet with deteriorating teeth and oral health problems!
You are very right about our health system being backwards! We need to be more focused on affordable prevention so that expensive restorative treatments are less necessary :)
I use fluoride MW to prevent cavity and Listerine’s zero alcohol sensitivity MW. Lately, it’s been causing gum/teeth sensitivity. What can I do?
Great explanation!
Does the Closys mouthwash help to prevent plaque build-up as well?
Thank you Derik!
Not necessarily by itself. But using it (with good technique) on a sonic toothbrush will.
@@DentistrywithDerik... You are telling him to brush his teeth with mouthwash???
really important but very sad to see you didn't discuss whether alcohol in the rinse played a part...you mention colgate and crest rinses as having high ph's, but i use the non-alcohol versions, but do not know by your report whether that makes a difference. would love to hear back here if you have that info.
low pH*
What are your thoughts about Plax?it is suppose to soften plaque on the teeth to make it easier to control with brushing.
Thanks for the video Derek!
Great informative video !. Regards.
Thanks!
What about the Listerine that has no alcohol or is that just as bad?
Alcohol is a factor in low pH but not the determining one. Unfortunately a non-alcohol rinses does not mean it has a high pH.
Very helpful thank you! Perhaps you can kindly direct us to the best toothpastes as well ... thank you!
Hi! My name is Cody! I came across your CZcams page as I was researching oral rinses. 4 months ago my dentist prescribed me Peridex oral rinse because I had gingivitis, along with having braces. The rinse cleared up my gingivitis, but I am pretty sure the gingivitis is back, because I have some puffy gums in-between my braces brackets, but I don’t see my dentist again until December. I have been doing excellent home care but there were times I slacked big time with flossing.. so I was wondering if you could give me a really good OTC alternative for (chlorhexidine)? there are tons of articles online that mention several different oral rinses, but I’d rather have your opinion on which rinse would be the best! Thank you in advance, I greatly appreciate it!
Hi Cody! Closys Sensitive toothpaste and rinse are excellent substitutes for Peridex. Using them in conjunction with a waterflosser and sonic toothbrush give excellent results.
Dr. Ellie recommends ACT and Listerine mouthwashes as part of her oral care regimen, which, according to this video, are to be avoided. She also recommends Closys which is a recommended mouthwash in this video.
ACT is not in the UK shame
I've been using Dr.Ellie's protocol. Now I am wondering if I should stop.
ONE DENTIST WILL TELL YOU ONE THING WHILE THE OTHER DENTIST WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO WHO DO YOU BELIEVE ?
Dr ellie doesn't have any studies to back her claims...
She indicates the Listerine does not harm the teeth if it is taken immediately after brushing because of the toothpaste protective layer. Regarding ACT, I guess she is using a different formulation because she is aware of the acidity risk and indicates ACT should be used as the last rinse to get rid of the Listerine.
I am not saying this is all correct information, but this is what she is saying.
I had an appointment and they would not call me back had to go through and find out how to deal with my teeth
Is the risk posed by acidic mouthwashes that severe? It’s my understanding that an acidic environment is formed multiple times a day by the foods we eat, even barring more acidic culprits like coffee, high sugar foods, etc. Can’t we just rinse with water (at least for antiseptic mouthwashes) afterwards, like we would after a meal, to mitigate the risk? Asking out of curiosity, and also because I just bought a 3 pack of crest from Sam’s
You are correct about the acidic environments created by frequent snacking and sipping of foods/beverages. Rinsing with water after a snack or an acidic beverage is the easiest way to neutralize your saliva's pH levels, and is something I encourage all my patients to do. There really is no reason to add further causes for erosion in an acidic mouthwash which is why i only recommend rinses that are pH+. The damage might be minor, but it will be cumulative. My goal is help patients keep their teeth for a lifetime. Hope that answers your question :)
isn't that ironic that peridex is prescribed or sold to you by the dentist?
I use therabreath it was very good
Most people don't take advantage of input gain, not Derik, he uses that shit to the fullest, so we can hear him
Could you add sodium bicarbonate to the low PH mouthwashes to raise the PH?
I heard that fluoride rinses need to be slightly acidic to lightly etch the tooth so they can absorb the fluoride and make your teeth resistant to acid and decay…..
Because fluroapetatite is stronger than the type of apetite that teeth are made of. Sorry I’m a barber not a dentist but you should understand what I’m saying
@@itsaaronlolz that’s actually a misconception - a negative pH environment is needed for a cavity to form. Carifree CTX3, Closys Silver and Therabreath “Healthy Smile” are all pH+ fluoride rinses that don’t run the risk of erosion or acid sensitivity.
Thank you so much for this video!
Why do dentists use the Listerine and Crest mouthwashes in their offices with their patients? What can you share about the Sensodyne Pro-Enamel mouthwash?
I ordered a bottle of the Sensodyne Pronamel mouthwash and will test the pH. I’ll post a #short video on the subject after I’ve researched it. Your first question will require a longer video, but I will get to it :)
I was just wondering as I have quite sensitive teeth and suffering from sensitive teeth such as to cold and hot beverages and some slight sensitive gums in some places around gum in my mouth I found here in UK there is a brand called Ultradex mouthwash other than common Listerine or Oral B also another recommendation was to use Sensodyne mouthwash just like Sensodyne toothpaste which is renowned for their toothpaste for patients like myself with sensitive teeth or gums. I was therefore wondering if you or anyone knows about Ultradex brand mouthwash and if it's any good/ okay for patients especially like myself with sensitive teeth but also at same time having suffering with epilepsy for many years and daily chronic migraines and or other health issues which can cause difficulty in brushing teeth or other daily activities due to being forgetful, unstable etc.
Kind regards,
Tom from UK.😊
Thank you!!!!! Very very important info!
My pleasure!
Thank you i just received a bottle of crest pro health mouthwash definitely will not be using it
Is Closys Ultra Sensitive mouthwash safe to use 4 times per day? I know the ph is safe but what about the active ingredient chlorine dioxide?
Just bought a bottle of therabreath
Hi Derik, thanks a lot for the informative video! I understand that all mouthwashes containing fluoride are acidic because the chemical reaction for fluoride to bond (sorry if that’s not the correct term) only happens in an acidic environment. Can you confirm if that’s the case, ie there’s actually a trade-off between fluoride mouthwash and neutral/alkaline rinses?
No, all fluoride rinses are not acidic. Carifree, Closys and Therabreath all make pH+ fluoride rinses
Thank you this helped tremendously
You're welcome!
Can you comment on thymol as a mouthwash? Thanks
Thank you so much for this. My hygienist recommended closys for me. Does it actually work? I'm kinda scared to use it but if it's gonna help make my teeth better than why not
Are there any side effects
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Yes! It works very well. I use it personally :)
@@DentistrywithDerikthank you for the information, do you use it before or after brushing?
@@DentistrywithDerik does it work for gingivitis ?
What about adding alkali drops to acidic rinses?
I haven’t looked into that, but will for sure.
What do you think about risewell products? I’m looking into purchasing the toothpaste and mouthwash
So Closys would be recommended for attacking rather than masking bad brethe? Along with having a good PH
Yes
Does Closys reduce Nitric Oxide
Is it fluoride or gingivitis ingredients that make it acidic or the alcohol in some what's good for gingivitis but also ph balanced
“Closys Sensitive” or “Therabreath Gums” would be an appropriate choice.
I am phobic to chemicals and so far I am ash user and breath free of antibacterials byproduct. Dr even if you share nice information , I got tough to change my mind soon ! thanks .
Is it okay to just use toothpaste as mouthwash? I swish the toothpaste in my mouth and spit it.
Thank you so much for the wonderful video! I was wondering which THERABREATH version is the best one to use to protect enamel and exposed Dentin? THERABREATH has a few different options. May you please recommend the one that's best for enamel protection and repair? Thank you!!
Glad it was helpful! The pink bottle with the bright orange cap. It’s called “Healthy Smile”.
Wow! Thank you for getting back to me so quickly and for the helpful advice - I really appreciate it. @@DentistrywithDerik
@@DentistrywithDerik Hi again! I hope all is well! I've been using the pink Therabreath ever since your recommendation and love it! The only thing is its a bit expensive - so I use it sparingly and get it on sale on Amazon. Of note, I saw at Shoppers Drug Mart a product called "Crest Pro Health Advanced Anticavity Fluoride Mouthwash Alcohol Free." I was just wondering if you felt that was a comparable product to Therabreath pink bottle? If so, I would switch to Crest because it was cheaper. However, if you think that that Crest product is still in the damaging category, then of course I will stick with Therabreath brand. Is there a certain ingredient that the Crest has that makes it damaging? I saw the Crest had CPC in the inactive ingredients list, and so I was concerned it might cause teeth staining. I know Therabreath fortunately does not have CPC. However the Crest said it had extra Fluoride and was alchohol free so I was just wondering what your thoughts were... if this particular Crest product is as good as Therabreath or if its still one that you would refrain from. Thank you!!!
Could be used Closys before the toothpaste and RT-3 after for risk of cavities? So essential both over the same session?
Do Closys Ultra sensitive is ok too?
Yes to both your questions
I recently started using an alcohol free oral rinse... Nothing bad yet but it does leave a rotten banana aftertaste🤢
I am using Peridex for gingivitis prescribed by my dentist. It's on your list of mouthwashes NOT to use. So what should I do? Try something else. It's going to stain my teeth and the hygenist will remove the stains at my next cleaning. What do you recommend I do?
Dentists and dental hygienists frequently have differences of opinion on products. Peridex (Chlorhexidine gluconate) is a prescription rinse, that has been used for years, but is falling out of favor with the rise of newer products, largely due to its staining side effects. You should absolutely follow the advice of your provider, but generally speaking, that rinse is intended for the short term, not the long term. As long you use it as directed, erosion is unlikely.
Dude. I have Act and Listerine. Gonna toss them now. Thanks for the video.
You’re welcome!
Me too 👍
Thanks,,,,,
what's the best mouthwash for gingivitis ?
My general recommendation is Closys sensitive but Therabreath Gum Health also works well. However, you really need to have a license dental provider determine if it is just gingivitis. Over the counter rinses need to be used in conjunction with professional care, and may not solve underlying problems.
A question regarding Closys and sites listing tooth staining. ?? I really like the Closys but in looking it up online some sites mention tooth staining as a "common" side effect. What is that about? I have stopped using it because I don't want staining. Can you clear this up? Thank you.
You’re welcome to forward me the information from those sites, but Closys not only does not stain, it can actually mildly improve the appearance of your teeth.
I had been using The Natural Dentist, and was noticing how dry my mouth felt afterwards. It might be time to switch.
The Natural Dentist is very acidic
Please please please reply me
I have recently bought colgate PLAX mouthwash i dont know if its good to use or not so please reply that whether i should use it or not
Thank you!!
You're welcome!
Hii not sure if u still replying to comments, but I plan on getting the “Hello gingivitis Mouthwash” i want to prevent my receding gums from getting worse. It has aloe Vera and coconut oil in it, no alcohol in it as well. Do you think it’s safe for my teeth and gums and low ph?
My best recommendation for gum issues is first seeing a qualified dental hygienist and using Closys toothpaste/rinse.
@@DentistrywithDerikhow effective are salt water gargles? How long / often can you use them? After a teeth clean I was told to rinse as gums were but swollen. She didn’t say how long for. It seemed to be indefinite / until next visit. Which is months away. Won’t this erode enamel? Thank you
I have been using Crest gum health mouthwash for about two months and my already sensitive teeth have started hurting in the last week. If I stop using these will my teeth go back to the way they were or is the damage already done and they will always hurt like this now? I'm so upset that I did something I thought was good for me and it made everything worse. 😭
If the cause was the rinse, switching to a pH+ rinse will help
how about if you have peridontal disease? therabreath kept my gums somewhat too red. does it take a while to see results?
Have you seen a licensed dental hygienist or dentist for gum therapy? Seeking professional assistance is absolutely essential in oral health.
Can Closys be used daily?
Definitely!
Can you please help with concerns to products in South Africa... Cause half of the products mentioned in the video are not found locally in south africa
I wish I could. Unfortunately I don’t have access to product lines in South Africa. They best thing I can recommend in this circumstance is to avoid any containing alcohol or test them with a pH testing strip.
How does an anti-microbial mouthwash help with tonsil stones?
It won’t get rid of them, but it can lessen the load of pathogens in the oral cavity, thus lowering some of the causes of bad breath. Tonsil stones are magnets for these pathogens and allow bad breath to continue. An ENT (ear, nose and throat) specialist is probably your best resource in this area. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0239/7795/1296/files/CloSYSRinseMalodorManagement.pdf?17559244125054379664
I understand, thanks for the helpful reply 👍🏼
Do these mouth washes you recommend actually work? I've been pretty skeptical about more natural mouth washes.
The ones I recommended do work. “Natural” mouthwashes generally are not very effective. You can read the details on pH and active ingredients on my blog: www.dentistrywithderik.com/blog/is-your-mouthwash-helping-or-hurting-your-teeth
I put blue mouthwash in toilet. bowl for keep it smelling good
What therabreath do you recommend? They have several
This one for cavities amzn.to/3ncmxOw
This one for gum disease/gingivitis amzn.to/3Z2eReN
Thank you!!
Learning so much! Thank you!
@@DentistrywithDerik Cetylpyridinium Chloride (0.05%) does this stain teeth?! Thank you. I read somewhere it’s rare or doesn’t if it’s in clear liquid? Confused !
if 2 of these have the same active ingredients - then how is the ph level different ?
It can be different for two primary reasons:
1. Formulation Differences: The presence of other ingredients can affect the final pH. These could include buffers, stabilizers, flavoring agents, sweeteners, and other active ingredients intended to target different oral health issues.
2. Concentration of Active Ingredient: The concentration of the active ingredient can influence the pH. Higher concentrations might require adjustments in the formula to maintain a pH that’s safe and comfortable for oral tissues.
I just bought Listerine and ACT a week ago to start a system recommended by another Dentist. I also bought Closys too. The Listerine and ACT will have to be trashed, thankfully they didn't cost much. What is your thoughts on Xylitol? And what toothpaste do you recommend? I'll look and see if I can find some info on your other videos.
Xylitol is an alcohol sugar that cavity-causing bacteria cannot metabolize. Using it in dental products is a safe way of reducing cavity risk. Just know it is toxic to dogs.
I love closys
Hi. What is the pH level in Colgate Plax Ice Infinity?
I have never seen Colgate Plax available for purchase in the US. Colgate does offer different versions of the products in different countries. Unfortunately I don’t have the pH for that particular product. You can purchase a pH tester and identify it’s relative pH from home.
@@DentistrywithDerik Yeah I live in Argentina, but the product might be made in Brazil.
@@DentistrywithDerik can hydrogen peroxide be used as a mouth wash?
@@mariorico440 it can be (as long as the manufacture's instructions are followed with regard to dilution), but the pH levels can still be under 6.5, making it less than ideal.
Which mouth wash best for damon braces?
Carifree CTX3. Many patients with braces experience demineralization around their brackets -- this can help to minimize it. (Good choice on the Damon braces btw, I used them for my ortho treatment)
My dentist literally gave me iorinse wtf 😒 I even told her I had sensitivity
What do you think of Plax mouth rinse immediately before brushing?
Initial investigation shows its pH+ but I need to look into it more
How do I check if Hello mouthwash is safe?
It has one of the lowest pH levels on the market. I never recommend it.
I noticed how weak my teeth felt after using mouthwash ☝️ I stopped and now my teeth are strong again
So the best ones are the more expensive ones. Sounds about right lol
Sadly, yes
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Does closys have fluoride ? I’ve been using sensitive mouth one and don’t see it on ingredients
I need fluoride for teeth issues
@talksick Closys Silver does. It contains both fluoride and an antimicrobial. Here is the link: amzn.to/3aK8wRL
@@DentistrywithDerik thank u
I see it says for 55 plus
Can a 33 year old take it?
I have dry mouth and always getting cavities in the back
@@talksick508 absolutely!
@@DentistrywithDerik thank u!
Do you know if Dr Jen's mouth rinse is safe to use?
never heard of the ones you recommend. LOL
So this guy says some mouthwashes are bad for our teeth and harm them(with zero evidence I might add). Then proceeds to list every brand found on the shelf at every store in my area as the violators. The majority of them having the ADA seal affixed. Why am I suspicious?
Are you saying the American Dental Assoc is in a conpriracy with “big mouthwash” to harm our teeth and keep us coming back to the dentist? Or are you sponsored by the brands you recommended?
Well, first @jackhammer, I am NOT sponsored by any manufacturer or brand of dental products. Secondly, if you had watched the entire video, you would have seen the references to supporting journals given on my website’s blog www.dentistrywithderik.com/blog/is-your-mouthwash-helping-or-hurting-your-teeth
As far as the ADA’s seal of acceptance goes, you seem to have a misunderstanding of what the seal means - it is not a guarantee that the product is perfect or that it cannot cause harm. It is simply an assurance that it does what the manufacturer claims. You will see under the seal a statement such as “improving bad breath” or whatever is pertinent to the claim.
My opinion on pH levels in mouthwashes is in keeping with such dental institutes as the Kois Center. Hope this answers your questions.
But alas, No need to argue I suppose, just seems fishy to me as my numerous dentists over the years have never mentioned it to me before when I specifically ask them about mouthwashes.
@@jackhammer8439 seriously this happens all the time this kind of thing. You really think companies and government regulators give a shit about you? You may want to rethink some things
Also my dentist said the same thing
I thought ACT was one of few that had high pH?I watched a dental pro recommend that as one of the few !
I used to Listerine and kill me I used to Listerine and kill me
Listerine is a product I never recommend.
So know should I trash my Listerine
Up to you :)
One stop solution for all dental problems… OIL PULLING . .. end.
I will do a video on oil pulling soon. There is nothing wrong with it, and it does have some benefits, but it should never replace traditional brushing and flossing.
@@DentistrywithDerik Does oil pulling destroy the good bacteria too?
@@ab78001 it’s antimicrobial effect is so low that risks of harm is minimal.
@@DentistrywithDerik thanks Derik. This has been such a confusing topic for me lately. Dr Ellie Phillips says coconut oil pulling destroys both the good and bad bacteria, and points to a study comparing coconut oil pulling to chlorhexidine and the oil pulling was comparable to chlorhexidine in reducing both the streptococcus mutans count as well as the total oral bacteria count. Therefore, she advises against coconut oil pulling, because she says we want to have a healthy oral biofilm. But I've also seen other studies that show coconut oil doesn't kill all bacteria. I've seen studies mostly about gut microbiome, showing that coconut oil feeds the good bacteria but kills the bad bacteria. So I wonder why it would do something different in the oral cavity. I want to achieve a healthy oral microbial biofilm.